🤔 Rob, your analysis of why brexiteers act as they do using cognitive dissonance as the focus is apt and on point. Meaning that any attempt to argue with them from our side is nigh on failure. For our mental health, all we can do is keep the issue of Brexit in the public eye, while advocating the economic / social necessity of reapplying to join the European Union 🇪🇺. I cannot wish for a happy new year, while appalling events in the eastern Mediterranean are continuing without any sight of a ceasefire 🇵🇸😢💐🕊.

@lordsummerisle852

5 ай бұрын

So you don't want peace for the Israelis too?

@baskoller5506

5 ай бұрын

@@lordsummerisle852 I am sure he would love nothing more than peace. Stop being a dick....

@toriesdontgettazered7464

5 ай бұрын

​@lordsummerisle852 nonsense comment

@nooboftheyear7170

5 ай бұрын

Those wishing to reverse brexit would put us under the power of monsters like orban? I think not. I'm guessing putin now wishes that he'd not interfered after all. That is, knkwing that we were a party to the budapest memorandum meant that he thought he had to cut us off or the eu would follow our lead. 'Unfortunately for russians' most of eastern europe hate the idea of reunifying with russia by any means with a passion but whereas nations like hungary can stop the eu acting as a body, they cannot stop britain encouraging the other individual countries to do their bit.

@petergaskin1811

5 ай бұрын

@@lordsummerisle852 ?🤦‍♂

The Brexit supporter mentality “GET OVER IT, YOU LOST!”. The reality, we all lost and will continue to lose.

@ettoreatalan8303

5 ай бұрын

Always think on the bright side of your life. Think about people in Russia.🤣

@Maltloaflegrande

5 ай бұрын

That always gets my goat: the idea that all we're sore about is being on "the losing side". Is it because Brexiteers are more prone to puerile competitiveness or are they just desperate?

@Mounhas

5 ай бұрын

I still get that comment…

@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw

5 ай бұрын

To all Brexiteers : You WON ! Get over it !

@paulstuart551

5 ай бұрын

Everyone is losing due to the invasion of Ukraine & sanctions on oil & gas as energy prices rise everywhere except China & India. Also the EU Commission has divided Europe completely over immigration. I am glad we are still a country of principle, being the first to give Ukraine long range missiles while France continued selling weapons to Russia without apology & Germany tried to use the mea culpa card fot WW2 although the situation is reversed. It can't be said that our influence is lost when these hypocrites had to follow - had we still have been a member we would have needed their permission..

When you vote for lies. There is no other way of putting it. Lies will never become the truth no matter how much the Brexit voters wish for it.

@marumaru6084

5 ай бұрын

Its typical though are you saying their was only lies on one side????

@Lucretia9000

5 ай бұрын

@@marumaru6084 Yes. You just didn't want to hear the truth and you probably still don't.

@paulharrion3398

5 ай бұрын

​@marumaru6084 Are you breaking in a brain for a moron or are you just an idiot? Brexit was built on lies, bullshit and racist nonsense. The fallout is obvious to the majority of the country and they are regretting the fact they fell for the Brexit bollocks!

@cheogt4623

5 ай бұрын

From the distance, it looks like there was no lie. It was direct to the point, no more immigrants from EU is the core of what they wanted. They knew it comes with a sacrifice, still got what they wanted, maybe a bit disappointed, sacrifice was harder than predicted. But from my perspective, 8/10 of supporters still support it, so no lies.

@marumaru6084

5 ай бұрын

@@Lucretia9000 Sigh its embarrassing you know what I want!!! The EU is no paragon of honesty i.e. none of their accounts have ever been audited but they are politicians just like our own so yes they lie. Its sad when you loose an argument you go straight to insults.

Don't forget, we've also 'lost' sovereignty from Parliament to the whims of ministers via the supposedly 'Temporary' Henry VIII powers the Tories gave themselves. Their existence and use is just one form of the continuing disenfranchisement of Parliament.

@susannehartl3067

5 ай бұрын

Quite right! I think this Retained EU Law Bill is pretty dangerous. It has to be removed.

Excellent material, brilliantly expressed. Well done and thank you, Rob.

@stewie7338

5 ай бұрын

I'm impressed but I thought Brexit was a Russian plot.. well Russian bots... well no it was Cambridge Analytica... not it was Tufton Street.... all Tufton Street. Now remind me what Cognitive Dissonance is again?

@dondoodat

5 ай бұрын

​@@stewie7338 Cognitive dissonance is exactly what you're using in your comment. No-one claimed Brexit was caused by any single factor you listed. People said that influence and pressure was applied by those forces who had a vested interest. Thanks for the example.

@dondoodat

5 ай бұрын

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 You're rewriting history, as always. There's none so blind as those who refuse to see. You should 'try telling the truth' occasionally.

@stewie7338

5 ай бұрын

@@dondoodat Hi Don - No it isn't my deranged Remainer friend. Look for nearly 8yrs you have channels like this that still don't accept the result. Note in the presentation Rob again said "advisory". Everyone agreed to enact the result going into it. If eight years later you're still saying advisory, you still don't accept the result and that someone can point out to you your own conspiracy theories then maybe you might want some introspection. In May last year Current Psychology published a study that concluded that Lefties were more likely to have Cluster B personality disorders like pathological narcissism and psychopathy. These disorders are where you find cognitive dissonance my narcissistic friend including the dark-ego-vehicle principle e.g. this channels inspiration James O'Brien.

@stewie7338

5 ай бұрын

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Fair point but Remainers on channels like this see themselves as the 'resistance' when they were voting for the status quo along with the plutocrats, oligarchs and pretty much the entire political establishment. Other easy examples of Cognitive Dissonance. They claim the UK is institutionally and systemically racist however they believe multiculturalism has been a major success. They accuse their opponents of being racist and misogynistic but their two major targets of their venom and bile have been Priti Patel and Suella Braverman. They are all Labour voters that are anti-racist but their party has only ever had straight white male leaders most of which in recent times were middle class. They want government by experts but believe Gary Lineker and Greta Thunberg are experts.

Great analysis as ever Rob. I cannot help but think of this quote by Tomas Paine ‘To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead’. Whenever Brexiteers try to-defend Brexit.

@petergaskin1811

5 ай бұрын

Love it. I'll remember that one.

I think Brits have to tealize that we Europeans DO NOT WANT the sick man of Europe in the EU, regardless of whether tories or Labour win.

@EllieD.Violet

5 ай бұрын

Amen to that. The vetoes would be double digit from all those EU members that profit from Brexit. If for no other reason but the profits! One wished the UK vloggers finally realized this simple fact instead of blabbing incessantly about rejoining. All the while conveniently ignoring that as of today, the UK anyway fails to meet 50% of the accession criteria anyway and given their speed, will need half a century to finally meet them anyway. Greetings from a fellow European

@Tonydjjokerit

3 ай бұрын

Much as I sympathize with your sentiments. You are also asking for the break up of the UK and a possible war between the UK and EU! @@EllieD.Violet

@EllieD.Violet

3 ай бұрын

@@Tonydjjokerit Lol. Where in my above statement do I mention the UK's 'breakup'? (Although that's rather likely). And a *WAR* between the EU and the UK? Why on earth would the EU wage a war against little brexitannia? Advice: stop listening to those voices in your head and get a new tinfoil hat.

@tedthesailor172

2 ай бұрын

What - are you planning to expel Germany...?

@EllieD.Violet

2 ай бұрын

@@tedthesailor172 Germany overtook Japan as 3rd biggest global economy .... hardly the sick man of Europe, then. Innit, little englander?! Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺

When most countries are banding together as a trading block, the uk in its infinite wisdom decided to leave the biggest trading block.

@martinburn

5 ай бұрын

@@4tnine you're mindset is closed and indoctrinated with popular view brainwashing, you are the waste of time that drags the country down.

@davidevans916

5 ай бұрын

@@4tnineoh yes Brexiters and their precious sovernteee 😂🙄

@user-pn4py6vr4n

5 ай бұрын

@@4tnine Did you even watch the video? You're like a walking example of it.

Sorry, people who now say they are regretting having voted to leave are not regretting the act per se, of wanting some kind of isolationist bliss based on some kind of unjustified sense of superiority over the rest of the EU members. No, they are regretting it because they see there is no superiority over nothing, in fact, the EU sustained most of those illusions by allowing the UK service economy to exist, as it had advantages to the EU and kept the peace that is the core of the EU, peaceful coexistence of European states. People are regretting yes, not having a situation they had before, with seamless travel and business, and knowing other European States heard what the UK said. And that is over and wont return again, not saying it is impossible for the UK to join, not rejoin, the EU under the rules of the leave agreement and the pre conditions for candidature, so no favors, just the same conditions as any other European country, but it is getting harder by the minute, and the visible differences between the EU and third countries like the UK are obvious now, from Law to the Economy, so, good luck with turning that around. But a like, as always Rob, you deserve it for your coherent speech and fact checking work.

They have that interesting statement too. “Stop talking about Brexit, time to move on.” Well of it was a success that’s going gang busters, they’d not stop talking about it, in the same way gammon still sing “two world wars and one World Cup”.

I have no sympathy for any brexiteer , twisting & turning blaming anyone & anything other than their very own CD , after all they knew what they voted for , it’s time for a return to the days , according to Mickey Flanagan , when “ you never saw stupid people , they never came out “ ! It’s only painful for us !

The main aims of Brexshit have been reached - so full success : 1) tax avoidance can go on 2) no monopoly control of the media by the eu 3) NO LIMITS TO MONEYLAUNDERING mission accomplished ! minor damages can be accepty by richy rich i.e. poorer UK is ok as long as no richy is hit by losses !

@korolev-musictodriveby6583

5 ай бұрын

🎯

I’m Irish and am traumatised by Brexit. I love the UK and will never get over 2016. Respect, Rob, for caring enough about your country to call a spade a spade. Hopefully in a generation sanity returns.

@tedthesailor172

27 күн бұрын

Looking at recent newscasts of mass immigration and government betrayal, it seems that the Irish have something rather more pressing to be traumatised about these days...

The deeper problem with people having trouble to change their mind when it becomes evident that they had been wrong is that we all have a strong tendency to make an opinion on _everything_. And the less we know about a subject, the stronger opinion we often make---a manifestation of the Dunning-Kruger effect (we don't know how much more there is yet to know about the problem, therefore we deem it simple, therefore we confidently make a strong opinion). And changing a strong opinion is indeed difficult. The lesson learned (hopefully) is: you don't _have to_ make an opinion on everything; especially if you don't understand the matter. So don't, it's perfectly OK to say "I don't know what to think about this". Swallow your pride and trust the experts (unless you want to become one yourself). Again, something that many people find themselves unable to do---to their own cost. Brexit is a perfect example of all this.

@obtuse1291

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, we now have elected politicians who think that "we've had enough of experts". 😢

@cheogt4623

5 ай бұрын

Well, they haven't change their minds 8/10, and we are assuming is because of this or that, psychology... Maybe the sacrifice, even when harder than expected, is still worth it for them. Don't underestimate the power of xenophobe and supremacism, it seems silly or childish, but it is powerful. Yes propaganda is a factor, still...

@anthonyrybicki1000

5 ай бұрын

OK but as a voter you are required to weigh up the arguments and that is something people are often ill equipped to do.The default position was to abstain as many younger voters did.The moral is that politicians shouldn't dodge the hard issues to court popularity by calling referenda.Swiss nationals are for example often asked to vote more than once on the same issue just to find a workable solution eg denying EU immigration then voting to accept it once the trade implications became clear. Britain's electorate became a pawn in an internal Tory party row about identity and sovereignty and we can only hope that we do get the chance to reevaluate this decision.Being poorer and unable to travel freely in Europe has had a wonderful effect on the collective mindset of the leavers indeed!

@ALFarrell-kv6ok

5 ай бұрын

Was Brexit actually a great success for Russian manipulation?

@vaclavkrpec2879

3 ай бұрын

@@anthonyrybicki1000 (Sorry for late reaction.) The example of Switzerland is both good but also problematic. I’ve once listened to a Czech emigrant to Switzerland, who described how the Swiss referenda work-and he concluded that it’s something for which one needs to be prepared, indeed trained, to use. He said he didn’t think it’d work at all if simply adopted in Czechia (or another country which is not used to referenda, I include the UK in it as well). The Swiss seem to approach it very responsively, in the manner I tried to convey in the comment: if tou don’t have a well-made opinion, you simply don’t vote. Hence, many of the referenda don’t reach the required quorum and end up inconclusive. This is then a signal to the politicians (and other public figures) to make more effort to explain the matter, as you say…

My favourite is the EU didn't give us what we wanted, they ruined Brexit!

@lucywin8000

2 ай бұрын

Also, USA betray us because they didn’t agree to a trade deal. 😂😂😂

@dawnlynch6300

11 күн бұрын

Totally agree

I have not come upon your channel before. Your points are beautifully articulated and expressed, and fully factual. Well done. Well done

Thank you, I have family members who voted to leave…a) to shake them up a bit (nhs employee). b) too many foreigners (police officer). c) being ruled by the EU.. (my sister who loves Spain) …. Btw I have lived in 🇫🇷 since 2001 and have seen all of this happening from the periphery. Cannot understand at all by my familiar reasons for voting leave.. I haven’t debated with them at all over the last few years as I just do not want to fall out with them. Brexit has created the worst divide ever in the U.K. they have had so many benefits and now the country is going downhill rapidly. I don’t want t return in spite of being considered in my ‘dotage’.. can 🇬🇧 be rescued.. I hope so.

Not to forget the Russian interference.

@huwzebediahthomas9193

5 ай бұрын

And USA. Yep, both want the EU to go to sh-it.

@backalleycqc4790

5 ай бұрын

​@@huwzebediahthomas9193The USA wants a strong EU, that's why they're open to more NATO members and helping Ukraine with its defence.

@philipcurnow7990

5 ай бұрын

You mean Boris Johnson?

@AK-us2di

5 ай бұрын

@@huwzebediahthomas9193 Obama suggested the UK should remain in at the time, not sure that's accurate.

@davefave4351

5 ай бұрын

​@@AK-us2di The GOP are funded by Putin...

"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Thank you Rob, another great talk. I agree absolutely.

Soon as the the Union (UK) breaks up, leaving the English on their own the better. Then the rest of us can get back to the EU. After all it's what the English and the Welsh vassal state voted for, whereas NI, Scotland and Gibraltar (that's 3, the majority of the 5) voted to remain. What happened to being an 'Advisory' referendum, with a final vote?

@ftumschk

5 ай бұрын

Certainly it was Welsh "vassals" who were responsible for the Brexit vote in Wales; and by vassals I mean indigenous, anglophile Welsh who don't identify as strongly Welsh. It was mostly these WINOs (Welsh In Name Only) who provided the bulk of the Brexit vote in Wales, as they constitute the majority of the population. Interestingly, 84% of Welsh speakers and non-Welsh speakers who identify strongly as Welsh voted for Remain, making them possibly the "most pro-EU demographic in the UK", according to research at Cardiff University in 2021. Sadly, this group only accounts for some 22% of voters - they outnumbered the 15% of voters who were born in England, but both groups were dwarfed by the 60+ percent of indigenous WINOs who mostly voted Leave.

@MrPiccolop

5 ай бұрын

Yeah Winos love to pull out the old Norman maps of England and Wales as one country lol

@ItsHailee7

5 ай бұрын

Not that I disagree with your point but what about those of us in England that voted to remain? 43% to be exact including a majority of Londoners. I think 7/10 of the most pro-EU areas were in London. What about the young that were too young to vote? The whole referendum was a sham and it is evident now that a majority see Brexit as a failure. What we now need is a pro-EU party nationwide.

@gargk999

5 ай бұрын

Scotland, with its corrupt (and soon to be criminal) SNP government, is now further away from independence than at any time in the last 40 years.

@rodricselbie35

5 ай бұрын

@@ItsHailee7 Why are you comparing a city in England to the Country Scotland, not one constituency in Scotland voted to leave.

It's so much easier to blame everyone else for the failure of Brexit than admit that you were wrong - that you fell for the lies of a bunch of grifters. So much easier...

@glynmatthews678

5 ай бұрын

Brexit stems from a history of blaming others .... now its poor people in small.boats

Central Govt Local Govt and Civil Servants caught lying should have Consequences. Also our Press and TV repeating these Lies should have Consequences. But the last 13 years the LIARS have had a FREE pass.

Everything we still have in the EU for the UK is pity ... What for a certificate of poverty for the former Empire….😢

Great video. You could not have phrased it better. At 04:45, I can hear the Brexiteer cries of " ... They just want to punish us for leaving !!! ...".

One consequence of Brexit should be that we (should i say the English) should finally take a good look at ourselves and be realistic instead of the rose tinted legends we created for ourselves. Once we face up to today's reality then we can move forwards. I love history but living in England is like a never ending history book.

I can see "as thick as a Brexiter" becoming a common saying in the future.

@paul1979uk2000

5 ай бұрын

The term Brexiteer should probably go into the dictionary as someone that's stubborn, not very educated and ignorance. Pretty much the hallmark of a Brexiteer going on the last few years, apart from the smart wealthy Brexiteers that manipulated the situation for their own ends, which isn't hard with the right wing press backing them.

@TheRealRedAce

5 ай бұрын

@@paul1979uk2000 Thats pretty much bang on IMO.

What shocks me more is that a Brexiteer has a mind

While we need 140 thousand nurses, 100 thousand lorry drivers, 60 thousand care visitors plus some care home staff, 125 thousand farm hands, 40 thousand fruit packers and a further 8 thousand food processors, 8 thousand vets, 4 thousand border staff, 25 thousand warehouse staff 140 thousand professional hospitality staff. And we are sending asylum seekers to barges and hotels without permission to work, how can a Brexiter see sense?

@johnburrows3385

5 ай бұрын

Yeah but they get put in five star hotels .

@cheogt4623

5 ай бұрын

They do, cause they don't want them from outside, sacrifice is an option, it hurts somewhere but still could be worth it in the other side. I don't think is a cognitive psychological issue, I think is more a xenophobe issue, they know, they understand, still...

@leonardgibney2997

5 ай бұрын

We got migrants in. Then we got more in to service those we got in. Then we got more in to service those we got in to service those we got in. Then we got more in to service those we got in to service those we got in to service those we got in......

@nigelsynnott7344

5 ай бұрын

@@johnburrows3385 Your proof of this is? The hotels now occupied by asylum seekers will not be being run as a recognisably 4 or even 5 star one, as the rates paid by the govt wouldn't fund that level of service.

@nigelsynnott7344

5 ай бұрын

@@leonardgibney2997 Your proof of this is?

The headbangers will take Brexit at any cost. But the general public won't. And that's why the Tories are buggered. Whooo. A Brexit benefit at last.

Once again a clear eyed analysis of the issues surrounding Brexit. I look forward to your videos every week. Be safe and always stay free! 🔥😈🔥

Another brilliant video from Truth to Power. 2024 is off to a great start on this channel. Bravo, Rob! 🎉😊

Morning and thank you Rob. A very happy new year to you and yours considering eh?. There really is no room for denial on Brexit mess anymore.

@huwzebediahthomas9193

5 ай бұрын

Morning Auds. 👍 Strap up - it's Tory 2024.

@TruthToPower

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, Audrey - A very Happy New Year to you too!

@brianperry

5 ай бұрын

Feliz Ano from Spain. Its not even plausible denial any longer..But what the hell, full marks for trying...Poor Brexiteers, they are a dying species....

@bereal6590

5 ай бұрын

@Try telling the truth, do tell us what you did want then?

*I USED TO BUY* all of my sewing supplies from the UK - I'm a semi-professional tailor so this is maybe £5,000 a year. I will go to ANY length to buy it locally instead. It is a living hell trying to get stuff from the UK now.

@piccalillipit9211

5 ай бұрын

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 The problem is I can't get what I need locally. i literally spread my food shopping out among all the local shops to support them. But no one had a skein of waxed silk thread or hand carved horn buttons. These exist in the UK to support Saville Row

You have to remember what the main driver for the vast majority of brexit and new in 2019 Tory voters was: It was the desire of a sizeable minority if not majority of primarily the English population to reduce the number of black,brown and yellow faces and"funny"foreign accents seen and heard on English streets. This also includes not only people from Africa,Asia and Europe especially Poland,Albania,Romania,Germany and France it includes such"foreigners"as the Scots,Welsh and Northern Irish or people who have joined those nations. Farage railing about two young Asian men on a train speaking Welsh to each other is an excellent example of the widespread xenophobia shown in England

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

5 ай бұрын

1992 Maastricht caused Brexit.

@clearview5281

5 ай бұрын

So the Palestinian movement taking over London is just what you people want. "No more White countries"

@eugenieponleve667

4 ай бұрын

@@Pickettytitch69-om7nk England caused Brexit.

@trident6547

25 күн бұрын

@@Pickettytitch69-om7nk What a wonderful in depth analysis of what caused Brexit. You must be english. No one else would be stupid enough to claim that a treaty that their government was a part of creating, negotiating, signing and ratifying caused Brexit.

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

21 күн бұрын

@@trident6547 A free trade/Common Market morphed into political and federal union with Europe ie 1992 and EU creation...but Brits never agreed to this in the 1975 referendum. We never voted to join the EU. Maastricht was rammed through by Major...and then he was annihilated at the 1997 election. Maastricht was seismic, we were rammed into a new soviet union...against our will. Now look at Europe moving sharply right, everyone hates the evil EU tyranny.

Thank you Rob Excellent as always. In my country (France) in the 50s till early 80s there was quite a significant part of the population believing that Communism was heaven on earth even though Soviet tanks were getting less than 600 km from our border in 1967 in Tchekoslovakia. Same in Britain with those ardent supporters of Brexit. I believe the hard-core supporters won't change their mind because they don't want their universe to collapse. Sadly we need to wait until time makes space for the new generations. Obscurantism is and was always around abywhere.

Someone in the comments asked why should the UK seek to rejoin the EU. The only way for the UK to reverse its decline is to move closer to the EU again because the EU is its main trading partner. And the UK should contribute to every single one of the EU's aims. These include: Having a large healthy single market which yields economies of scale in manufacturing and distribution, and encourages inward investment, keeping Europe together through mutual interest, cultural exchanges, close collaboration on scientific research and a common defense policy.

@clearview5281

5 ай бұрын

In other words the UK will only be excepted again by the EU if the UK allows millions more 3rd World Refugees!

Admitting they were wrong about Brexit would make them question their beliefs on many other things. They run the risk of questioning their identities as conservatives. They may end up questioning their entire worldview. They would have to admit they were wrong about many more things than just Brexit.

@oldishandwoke-ish1181

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely - they'd have to take a long hard look at themseves. Far easier to keep blaming foreigners.

Let's not forget that cognitive dissonance will mean that poll results suggesting favourable Brexit outcomes WILL be exaggerated...

@paulstuart551

5 ай бұрын

Ah, a Trump conspiracy theorist.

@lloydbelle3406

5 ай бұрын

@@paulstuart551 I don't know what tree you are barking up, here? However the point I'm making is that Brexit was backed with so much emotive passion that the failure of it, has manifested into an array of negative behaviours such as stubbornness and delusion. Hence the most passionate Leave voters are unable to openly admit Brexit has failed; and the deluded Brexit supporter who believes one day Brexit will be a success is not going to support a return to the EU.

Let's not forget that behind every decision, belief, or behaviour there is an external world of influence.

@gerry20p

5 ай бұрын

And also that this external world of influence may not have your best interests at heart.

@Rayn072012

5 ай бұрын

That's why we need the dirty Russian money and its influence out of our politics.

@Legendary4me

5 ай бұрын

I lived in the uk for quite a long time and almost all tabloids were fiercely anti EU, having it their major title at least once a week. This hatred has been diffused for at least 30 years. So there is nothing surprising in the latest years outcome.

@abody499

5 ай бұрын

​ @Legendary4me yep, nothing surprising at all. We see it with every issue that impacts the establishment. Corbyn, Scotland's constitutional issue, Brexit - it's all the same playbook.

Since I've been studying Russian propaganda, I find the Brexiteers' arguments absolutely honest and logical. My demands for honesty and logic have probably dropped “somewhat” during my study of Russian propaganda.😁

@playnochat

5 ай бұрын

You should study Chinese propaganda. It somewhat manages to be even lower. Russia doesn't care about the people during the war. China just doesn't care about the people.

I don't see how you can avoid having Brexit as a subject of the next election. The parties may not want to discuss it, but I'm damned sure the public do want to.

@timelwell7002

5 ай бұрын

And yet Starmer is VERY keen on avoiding the subject of Brexit, other than his slogan 'Make Brexit Work.' Which is nonsense, but in his mind he feels he HAS to say this in order to stand any chance of being elected. And this is ALSO nonsense, because the sentiment in the country is that the majority of the electorate are sick to the back teeth with the Tories. Sadly, we're stuck with the 2 main political parties both claiming that there is no future in being part of the EU... Madness.

@ItsHailee7

5 ай бұрын

@@timelwell7002 Unfortunately, he has to "Make Brexit Work" in the meantime. The EU will not let us back in unless there's either PR or common consensus between the two main parties. What I don't like how he is saying there are Brexit opportunities to be seized. There are no opportunities. It's time politicians stop treating us like children and start telling the truth. Many of us are a lot smarter than falling for 3-worded slogans and fairytale fantasies. We know Brexit is a massive failure. We know, it alone contributed to a 5.5% annual decline in our GDP. We know that unless we are in at least the Single Market and Customs Union, our problems will continue. The SNP understands this. That's why they get praise for standing up to the truth. Why can't we in England have a party like them?

@ulfosterberg9116

5 ай бұрын

​@@timelwell7002It is not nonsense. Uk is out, and will be out for decades. You got to do the best of it. Are you planning to lie down and die? This will be very bad. Much worse than you imagine. But still someone with a brain must make i work as best it can.

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

5 ай бұрын

Madman Starmer wants to adopt and realign the UK to the EU's damaging and stultifying regulations. A very stupid mistake just as Brexit is now taking off to great effect,...exports to the EU have never been higher.

Cognitive distance by Tory, more like.

Can I put forward another possible reason for brexit leaving votes? That of our crappy first past the post voting system, which fails to deliver for the broad majority of the public. Bear with me. At the time of the vote, I would think that most of the country was immensely dissatisfied with David Cameron and yet had no means of expressing that dissatisfaction. Camerons majority fully protected him and the tory party in parliament for some time to come. Then along comes the golden opportunity to kick Cameron, and kick him hard. How many resisted this temptation? Not many it would seem. 😢😢

@ShaunieDale

5 ай бұрын

Yes, many people voted leave to stick two fingers up at the establishment being to ignorant of the facts to realise that this is exactly what a certain element of the establishment wanted.

@paul1979uk2000

5 ай бұрын

In the end, the British people ended up kicking themselves, Cameron is rich so the impact on him is minimum compared to what it is for the average Brit and especially poor Brits.

@gringo1723

5 ай бұрын

Fair point; yet it is simply a side influence rather than a serious driver of Brexit Pathology. One wonders the reasoning after Your requesting the opportunity for You to castigate a political personage? While You posted double emoji shedding tears, Your chosen words reveal a rather personal dislike of David Cameron. To wit: “I pray you, in your letters, when you shall these unlucky deeds relate, speak of David Cameron as he be; nothing extenuate, nor set down aught in malice. Then must you speak ... jealous, but being wrought, perplex’d in the extreme…” ♾

@brachiator1

5 ай бұрын

UK voters need to choose better politicians and leaders. A tough job anywhere. Changing the voting system might make it harder for the Tories or Labour to gain power, but it might also lead to weak or corrupt coalition governments. Kinda like that terrible Tory Lib Dems coalition.

Brexit was always going to be a disaster, every trade deal we have made since has been detrimental and it always would be as we are the ones who are desperate, if it wasn't for government austerity it's unlikely they would ever have won vote leave

Brexit is the worse mistake this country has made in my lifetime and the second worse was voting for Johnson and his party in 2019 let’s hope if Starmer does win the election he makes areal difference he really needs to thanks Rob take care

please continue with your terrific content, thanks! and, again, all the best to you and yours, rob - i hope you have a happy and healthy 2024! as always, love from canada!

@TruthToPower

5 ай бұрын

Happy New Year, CthulhuInc , and thanks for all your support in 2023.

I lost 2/3rds of my customers in the EU after Brexit.

We are a Spanish family both doctors who left UK pre Brexit but already noticed xenophobic attitudes against foreigners,. I have to say we have seen many of our friends ( Spanish doctors working in UK ) retiring earlier than they wanted to due to the increased xenophobia and many new doctors now not going to UK. The same applies to nurses. We have been told that the UK is regretfully going down and we feel sorry for that. We are now living by the Mediterranean sea and many houses occupied by uk nationals are now sold to Europeans. Most of the UK people here I talk to are against Brexit because is affecting them adversely and those who leave are very sorry. Who won with Brexit? Now UK has a PM who was chosen by the upper classes not by an election. Now uk is poorer. Now we don't visit UK because of the passport and border problems we prefer the rest of Europe. Now we can see more problems in UK. What a pity. To end, just I would like to say that UK is welcomed back to Europe but ditching the pound and not just focused on money gains but on creating a strong Europe, the house of solidarity

@mtm4a

5 ай бұрын

@romanjimenezgil - Thank you for putting into words what so many people think in the aftermath of the most devastating decision ever made by a once-proud nation

@gringo1723

5 ай бұрын

Sadly, the UK's EMPIRE MENTALITY is engrained for decades to come. To welcome them back in the Union is naive and asking for TROUBLE.

@Pandemonis

5 ай бұрын

@@gringo1723 Exactly, it would need a TREMENDOUS change of mindset for the UK to rejoin the EU, and it would take a longer time than Scotland's independence and Ireland reunification...

Brexit is going well if and it is a big if , you are a Tory with a offshore tax avoiding bank account

It takes courage and humility to admit that you have been conned and made a mistake. The people admitting that now have my respect for that.

@trident6547

25 күн бұрын

It takes some intelligence too to understand this but it is sadly lacking among the Brexiteers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Brexiteers hate immigrants, EU, tourists and the continent?

@gloin10

5 ай бұрын

You are not wrong, but your list is too short. Brixiteers also famously hate facts, logic and reality itself!

@annepoitrineau5650

5 ай бұрын

Yes, including those brexiteers who have houses on the continent. The extent of their cogniticve dissonance is infinite.

It‘s obvious that the Brexiters‘ mindset can‘t distinguish between EU politics and the politics of the member states. For them it’s always the EU regardless whether the nation states execute their own policies or not.

@EllieD.Violet

5 ай бұрын

Long time no see. Nachtraeglich ein gutes und gesundes neues Jahr in die Hauptstadt, Gerald!

@geraldwagner8739

5 ай бұрын

@@EllieD.Violet Ebenfalls ein frohes neues Jahr 2024 Ellie.

@EllieD.Violet

5 ай бұрын

@@geraldwagner8739 Wir geben unser bestes:). Hoffen wir mal auf mehr Effizienz in der Ampel. 🙄

Ironically I’m watching this at Valencia airport where I’ve queued up to get my passport checked and stamped. So much for Sovereignty!

@backalleycqc4790

5 ай бұрын

You got your sovereign-tea, isn't that what Brexit was all about, so that "Rule, Britannia"?

@57bananaman

5 ай бұрын

You'd have had to queue to get your passport checked prior to Brexit, the difference now is that if you are a non-EU passport holder they now need to stamp your passport and there are more checks to make ... i.e. they need to check when your passport was issued, when it expired and how long you have spent in the Schengen area (which includes Spain) in the past few months,

@trident6547

5 ай бұрын

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Not for EU citizens.

Yeah, but hang on - now I can buy a pint of wine. Surely this is the major benefit which Boris Johnson promised the country?

@Stan_55UK

5 ай бұрын

Lifechanging!

@InverhavonRailways

5 ай бұрын

A pint of FRENCH wine, perchance?....

@Stan_55UK

5 ай бұрын

@@InverhavonRailways Oui!

I voted leave, I got mugged, but, not any bloody more: LET'S REJOIN EUROPE.

@edmondinyang3305

5 ай бұрын

@alantodf7048 thanks for your honesty

@johnburrows3385

5 ай бұрын

Well done for admitting it 👏

@kevokeks

5 ай бұрын

Sure. Without any perks or special rules anymore. Oh, and pay for it. The damage brexit cause also for EU is UKs fault. See ya in 20 years. Toodeloo! :D

@cheogt4623

5 ай бұрын

Well but you are on a 20%, 80% still believe in it. It doesn't sound like you guys have changed your mind, it actually sound as if economy gets better, GB will be over 50% in general in favor of it again.

@backalleycqc4790

5 ай бұрын

Nope, bye Felicia!! Enjoy your Brexit!!

Happy new year 2024 Rob!

@TruthToPower

5 ай бұрын

Happy New Year!

4:18 There was a Russian plot, to make Britain leave the EU. Well, you've fallen for it, Brexiteers.😂

The power of the right wing press.

3:27 I'm sorry but so called remainers like Cameron asked for (yet another) Remainer Brexit while the UK already had one! In the lead-up to the 2016 EU referendum Cameron sought a number of exemptions and exceptions from the EU in an effort to address concerns among British voters about the UK's membership of the EU. These requests focused on four key areas: * Free movement of people: Cameron sought to restrict the rights of EU citizens to reside and work in the UK, arguing that this was putting a strain on public services and social security systems. He proposed a four-year residency requirement for EU migrants to access benefits such as tax credits and child benefit, and a new residency requirement for social housing. * Sovereignty and opt-outs (again!): Cameron sought to enhance the UK's sovereignty within the EU, arguing that the UK should have greater control over its own laws and policies. He proposed a new treaty that would allow the UK to opt out of specific areas of EU law, such as the Social Charter and the European Court of Justice's jurisdiction over employment rights. * Economic competitiveness: Cameron sought to protect the UK's economy from the full effects of the Single Market, arguing that this was needed to safeguard jobs and businesses. He proposed a review of the SM's competition rules and a mechanism for the UK to unilaterally suspend some SM rules in times of economic hardship. * Decision-making: Cameron sought to change the way the EU made decisions, arguing that the current system was too unwieldy and undemocratic. He proposed a more streamlined decision-making process that would give greater weight to the UK's vote. Cameron's efforts to secure these exemptions and reforms were met with mixed success. While he was able to achieve some limited changes, such as the introduction of a cap on the number of EU migrants claiming out-of-work benefits, he was unable to obtain the more far-reaching changes he sought. This led to a growing sense of disillusionment among British voters, and ultimately contributed to the narrow victory for the "Leave" campaign in the 2016 EU referendum. The UK played with fire, even so called remainers were not truly convinced of the utility of the political (not only economical!!!) peace, cooperation and solidarity EU project. Greetings from Belgium, EU.

@trevordavies5486

5 ай бұрын

So basically Cameron wanted all EU members to change to suit the UK or the UK would leave. And the answer was Bye Bye.

@AlexGys9

5 ай бұрын

As I see it, Brexit was inevitable. It would have happened sooner or later. An ever increasing anti-EU propaganda coupled with blaming the EU for everything and anything led to an ever increasing resentment. The growth of Euroscepticism in the UK can be clearly seen in the results of the GE and PE elections of the last couple of decades. Even now, most of the so called "rejoiners" talk about nothing but the economic downsides of Brexit and the benefits of joining the EU or the Single Market again. Those who venture further rarely go beyond regretting the loss of influence, prestige of the UK on the world stage. To me, this proves once again that the UK was, and still is, only interested in the EU for selfish economic benefit and glory and has absolutely no use for the European Project in its entirety. Greeting from the EU

@trident6547

5 ай бұрын

@@trevordavies5486 yes. And in hindsight it turned out that EU gained a lot from brexit The Eurodenominated clearing of derivatives is finally moving into the Eurozone where it belongs. A bussiness that turns over a triliion € daily. A modest estimate is a loss of some £ 85-90 billion in taxrevenues. And the transition period of passporting of financial services from UK to EU has ended forcing UK companies who want to continue to move their operations to EU countries. EU wanted to move the clearing bussiness out earlier when UK was a member but UK refused and took the case to the ECJ who ruled in UK´s favor. As UK is now a third country there is no blocking chance anymore.

when people say : exit is good just that we did not exit properly, what they are saying we want cake-xit and eat-xit too

It's not about reason and light, it's all about emotions and heat. This is why the dissonance is there - which wins? Heat or light? It's what they feel and they still are blaming the EU because some has to be the cause of how they feel.

My one friend who still holds onto Brexit rationalised thus "At least we don't have a European army". That's it. Not being in something that doesn't exist snd this is not a stupid man.

@petergaskin1811

5 ай бұрын

Remind him about NATO.

@TheIdlesurfer

5 ай бұрын

@@petergaskin1811 his son is currently deployed in the Baltics with the British Army. He knows but I think this is cognitive dissonance writ large.

Let's not Forget Global Britain.😂 🇮🇪🇪🇺

@joaomarreiros4906

5 ай бұрын

And UKCA

@trident6547

25 күн бұрын

There were 759 different agreements signed by the EU on behalf of the member states with 168 countries. 295 concerned trade, 69 fisheries, 65 transport, 49 customs and 45 nuclear issues. UK lost all of these when it left EU. From GOV.UK: As an independent trading nation, the UK now has over 70 trade agreements in place. When you look closer at those agreements only three have been done by UK! The rest are roll-overs from EU agreements and they need to be renegotiated in a near future. So far UK has made three agreements as an independent trade negotiator. All bad agreements. The two with New Zealand and Australia were so bad they even laughed at the negotiators of UK who signed up to a crap agreement. That is the real status of "Global Britain" as you of course already knew but the brexiteers still think that CPTPP will somehow become their liferaft even though UK exports only some £ 70,5 billion annually there. UK exports some £ 60,5 billion to Germany alone. 7 of UK´s ten most important tradepartners are EU members.

I didn't have to wait years to discover this. It was clear whenever you tried to discuss their reasoning for voting leave. People truly are mad!

Happy new year Rob and well done on another superb video, well presented with sold facts, sadly there is no cure for head in the sand and brain washing!

@TruthToPower

5 ай бұрын

Happy New Year!

i feel sorry for the majority of uk citizens who didn't vote to leave, not those that did

Brexit has barely begun. Financial services are being moved out of London back to the EU, and in 2025, the €1trillion/day Euro-clearing for the derivatives market is moving back to the EU. The loss of that revenue stream to the UK will be significant. But, you got your Sovereign Tea. Enjoy.

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

5 ай бұрын

Fiction.

@channelsixtyeight068_

5 ай бұрын

@@Pickettytitch69-om7nk Doesn't matter what you think. The UK is out, that's all that matters.

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

5 ай бұрын

@@channelsixtyeight068_ ....and I could not be happier! BREXIT POWER!

Rob, despite the all embracing gloom and current dismal news, I wish you and yours a Happy and healthy New Year. Once again, very many thanks for a brilliant and lucid exposition of the Brexit mindset. Cognitive dissonance? Yes, but we have to take into account that the people who "tip the balance" when casting their votes in the UK are also those who are most susceptible to manipulative deceit and highly vulnerable to accepting misleading propaganda verbatim. That is why they are picked out and canvassed. Brexit wasn't achieved democratically, and it didn't come about as a fair expression of "the will of the people." It resulted from a cynical, corrupt, well prepared and brilliantly executed plan. Brexit was actually a stunning success. But only for those who engineered and carried it through. In consequence, these "agencies" vastly enriched and empowered themselves in a wide variety of ways, to our cost and long lasting detriment. Voters were lied to using very skillful methods which were deployed and targeted with laser guided precision. "Democratic will of the people?" No, the people were seriously hoodwinked. Indeed, misled so persuasively that many, as you Rob rightly point out here, cannot and will not accept that they themselves were responsible for the consequent disaster that is Brexit. And certainly not by accepting any culpability or acknowledging their gullibility. However, the vast majority of voters now realise they were totally duped. Our current cohort of Brexiteers now consist of a relatively small number of diehards who will never, ever, accept that they were wrong to vote as they did. But the real Brexiteers are those who have now taken their ill-gotten gains and long since departed "offshore." They are now laughing at us, whilst celebrating how brilliantly successful their plan was.

@TruthToPower

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Federico, and happy new year. Appreciate your support in 2023.

@susanpalmer4705

5 ай бұрын

Well said. But unfortunately 7 years too late to change the minds of the very very very stupid.😂

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

5 ай бұрын

Actually, it was achieved by the highest ever UK vote at a magnificent 17.4 million. True democracy in action, at it's finest. People voted Leave due to the extreme Maastricht Treaty in 1992 which converted a common market into a political and federal union with Europe. But without a public vote or even consultation. Nothing whatsoever to do with lies. Your desperation makes you look silly and foolish. Free from damaging EU regulation, Brexit is now taking off.

@federicoprice2687

5 ай бұрын

@@Pickettytitch69-om7nk Actually, you're wrong on all counts. The only liars and fools are those who don't - or refuse to - understand the political, legal and democratic conditions under which the UK executed both the Maastricht Treaty and the Brexit referendum. The underlying statutory framework of the Maastricht Treaty, to which the UK had previously agreed, stipulated that it should first be "ratified by the High Contracting Parties [ie. member nations] in accordance with their respective constitutional requirement." In the cases of Denmark, France and Ireland this required a public affirmation in the form of a referendum. This did NOT apply to the UK, as there was no national or constitutional requirement to do so. Therefore, the democratic validity and legal mandate for the UK to become a signatory was, by Royal Prerogative, vested solely in the democratically elected House of Commons. Mr Picketty, assuming that you are British, your democratically elected MP at the time would have voted on your behalf - or perhaps you disapprove of our system of democracy? Therefore, the Conservative government of John Major tabled an explicit confidence motion in order to obtain Parliamentary support for passing the European Communities Amendment Act 1993, which would in turn allow the UK to ratify the Maastricht Treaty. The motion was passed with a majority of 40. There was absolutely NOTHING undemocratic about either the development of the Treaty itself, in which the UK played a full and important role, or the mandate under which it was later signed. Indeed, the individual Acts and Clauses governing all aspects of the transition from Common Market to European Union were developed by teams of experts in which UK legal and constitutional representatives played a key part. Thereafter, each and every one of the major sections of the draft Treaty were fully debated and endorsed by the democratically elected European Parliament, in which the UK was fully represented by elected British MEPs. As you put it, "true democracy in action, at its finest." So if I might ask, what part of that legal and democratic process would you have preferred to ignore, bypass, substitute or subvert? As for the Brexit referendum, the electorate voted to leave the EU with a 51.9% share of the vote, all regions of England and Wales except London voting in favour and Scotland and Northern Ireland voting against. Today, according to the latest polling data, the vast majority (approachng 60%) of the electorate now agree that this 1.3million majority based on a turnout of 72% was infact wafer thin. There are four key reasons for doubting the validity of the referendum, and there are many others: 1) From a legal basis, it was only an ADVISORY referendum, and did not actually require statutory enactment. In Hansard 10 October 2016, the then Attorney General is quoted as stating "The [EU] referendum was an advisory referendum.” The European Union Referendum Act 2015 didn’t stipulate anything about implementing the result of the vote, it just provided that there should be one. In most countries, referendums are often legally binding - for example, because the vote is on whether to amend the constitution. The UK, famously, doesn’t have a codified constitution, and therefore our votes are advisory. Therefore, by which democratic process (the democracy that you so avidly defend) was the result of a purely advisory referendum converted into one that was legally binding? Did we have a say on that? No. Were we given a vote on whether to put such a mandate into effect? No. 2) It was now been proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the Leave campaign was based on false claims and distorted by lobbyists, external funding, finely targeted electronic propaganda and riddled with corruption. The democratic validity of the vote is therefore dubious. 3) Instigating a hugely complex process of change that has enormous political, constitutional, economic, personal and trade ramifications - which were either not explained to the electorate or misrepresented - should have been subject to a confirmatory referendum. The simple fact is the sheer complexity and implications of "Getting Brexit Done" is only now dawning on the vast majority of Joe Public (you, Mr Picketty, being an exception.) It's blindingly obvious that the UK has experienced enormous economic loss, structural and demographic disadvantages, exclusions, curtailment, strictures and loss of status and influence. If our wonderful politicians can't "Get Brexit Done" then it's clear that the 'sunny uplands' will remain uninhabited. 4) Such fundamentally important and far reaching matters should never be decided by simple majority. As it was, the nation was divided, but would you still have felt so self assured had the vote been 0.1% either way? Finally, I assure you that I am not "desperate!" Whatever you might think, the overwhelming majority of voters now believe it's people like YOU who are looking silly and foolish. As for you bragging about our advantages of now being "free of damaging EU regulation," and of "Brexit now taking off", I will only say that you either haven't a clue what you're talking about, or that you live in a cave. Under a rock, in a cave.

*Wonderful stuff Rob!* 👍😎

The ironic thing is that whilst brexit will be a major factor in the next GE, it will be one subject that won't be mentioned at.

Happy new Year to the UK ... new measures to start in 2024 : control of incoming food by UK customs ( nobody knows where the customs agents shall come from .. but anyway...) control when leaving the Uk for the EU by biometric checks ( waiting times to expire in Dover - book a hotel for your stay !!) Brexshit - the gift that keeps on giving - thank you !

@romanjimenezgil

5 ай бұрын

A Spanish resident married to an englishman went to visit her sister for 4 days. When coming back to UK was detained and put in a plane to Spain. Is this the beginning of a huge problem for British living in Europe?

and yet they still worship nigel farage

Thanks Rob and Happy New Year. There is a fourth option, out and out lies, seems to be the Tory favourite.

@TruthToPower

5 ай бұрын

Happy New Year, Nick

Only just watched your Brexit analysis. As usual very good, and I knew leaving the EU was going to be a massive mistake. And that is why I voted remain.

A damning condemnation and, unfortunately, painfully true. As long as I live I will never forgive anyone who voted for Brexit, on the grounds that they cannot be forgiven for lack of engagement with the issues , a willingness to listen to and accept nonsense spouted by liars , and their downright stupidity. And as for Farage and Johnson? Criminal traitors.

Here in Canada 🇨🇦 I heard that the EU 🇪🇺 would come crawling on their knees to beg the UK 🇬🇧 to come to an agreement 🤥

Never had the UK less control over its own fate than after Brexit. For now it will have to obey the rules of 198 other countries.

I don’t feel sorry for them!

" bit sorry for the these people " ? ? ? After the calamity they've created ? ? ?

What I have never been able to understand is why the original initiators and promoters of Brexit thought that this concept would ever be of benefit to our country. Surely these intelligent people must have done the sums and considered the options at the initial stages of formulating this basic idea, and concluded early on that their concepts simply wouldn't materialise, or at least were highly unlikely to work. Unless, that is, they thought there was a possibility of enhancing their social or political status, or their personal bank balances, for whatever reason and by whatever means. So why did they pursue it with such zeal and cruel deception, knowing in their inner hearts that the ultimate result would fail if ever voted on by the gullible electorate? To me, that's the biggest question of all, and the perpetrators of our country's demise have got off scot-free, whistling contentment to themselves as they saunter off into the sunset, with zero possibility of ever being convicted for their crimes.

@skabuoy

5 ай бұрын

Their thoughts? Probably : Arrogance - England is a superior nation, so others will bow to its needs. Delusion - England is a superior nation, so others will bow to its needs. Personal gain - "What if I move from 'remain' to 'leave'. If I play my cards right, I may end up Prime Minister. Just a few observations...

@idw9159

5 ай бұрын

stephen fry exposed it thoroughly.. tougher eu tax and financial disclosure laws would start to impact the shenanigans of the city and their fraudulent tax evasion and illegal money making schemes, those people always knew there was no economic benefit for rest of us

I know ,as most of us do several people that voted Leave that have softened their stance, know it was a mistake, some have even gone full circle. Only none of this matters? Brexit was a train crash leaving many dead and injured. The dead are ,well dead the injured are going to need support and some will carry on dying. As for the train wreckage, there is no rebuild or rejoin the train , the rail line has been sidelined and all the other trains now bypass Brexit Island.

@BigHenFor

5 ай бұрын

Your analogy has a fatal weakness. In reality, train crashes occur, but we don't stop using trains. We don't tear up the tracks, and tell people to walk. We diagnose the causes, implement better procedures and technology. We repair or rebuild an improved track and better rolling stock, and run a better and safer train service. Every country that runs trains does that. None have ever argued not to use trains again after a crash. No wonder the rail transport infrastructure is almost all better in the EU than our many decades long privatised scam.

@robduncan599

5 ай бұрын

@@BigHenFor Only the train that crashed (Brexit Train) is mangled and written off . Can't be rebuilt. The train traffic go bypass Brexit Island and the train network see no reason to visit Brexit Island again

I remember doing my psychology degree and weaving these cognitive techniques applied to Brexit and that was back in 2016 . O how the years have taught me even moreso that I want to live alone with cats and no with 'news' 😂

Excellent recap. You were most gracious, others call them just plain stupid, others, call them fucking stupid for voting to leave.

Thanks Rob. Great summary. The question is, who should i vote for at the next GE to get us out of this Brexit shambles? Labour would get my vote but Starmer seems to want to, and i quote, "find the brexit benefits". Am i right in saying that only the Green Party has rejoin on its manifesto?

@californiadreamin8423

5 ай бұрын

Starmers Labour is playing a political game which the Tory party and the Tory supporting media , really struggle to get their teeth into. The Tory party inflicted Brexit on the U.K. and they have to own it in the eyes of the electorate.

@johnmorrison9424

5 ай бұрын

SNP and out of this so called union of nations for me 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Saor Alba

@tompearce3610

5 ай бұрын

I think Starmer is saying what is necessary to get the swing voters that will determine electoral victory. Once Labour is in power and it's clear that the only way possible to grow the economy is closer ties with the EU... I don't think he's ideologically committed to Brexit whereas all Tory MPs had to commit to be allowed to stand.

@gio-oz8gf

5 ай бұрын

If you are unable to make your own decision, you should not be permitted to vote. If you vote based on someone else's instruction, it is not your vote, is it? No party can do what you're asking, do you think the EU will just say bygones and let us straight back in? I can't decide whether you're a Tory troll or not, I believe the evidence suggests that you more than likely are.

@JJ-zg1hh

5 ай бұрын

@@tompearce3610 but surely Starmer could have said nothing on the matter of Brexit. I think he's painted himself (and the Labour Party) into a corner with his pro Brexit stance.

I totally agree with your analysis

Cognitive dissonance. It figures. Painful condition.

Most Brexers deny they voted leave....the cult are marginalised...

Brexit occurred due to the fact that the majority of the English electorate who participated in the referendum were either intellectually incapable of objectively researching the the pros and cons of the issue or simply couldn't have been be bothered paying heed to the dire consequences of us leaving the world's most successful tariff free trading bloc. Whichever one of the aforementioned reasons for the Brexit vote stupidity and/or laziness describes the pro Brexiteer's mentality. Those citizens who considered sovereignty to be paramount are still in our midst and will scuttle any attempt to re-apply for membership of the E.U.

@BigHenFor

5 ай бұрын

Sovereignty like sex: it's much more effective when it's shared.

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

5 ай бұрын

It was Maastricht 1992 which caused Brexit.

@eugenieponleve667

4 ай бұрын

@@Pickettytitch69-om7nk It was England 1973-2016 that caused Brexit

@Pickettytitch69-om7nk

4 ай бұрын

@@eugenieponleve667 Yes, billions of pounds of English taxpayer's money pouring into the Brussels greed, greed gravy train and the confiscation and decimation by 1980 of the UK fishing industry. So yes, you are right....EEC/EU was a catastrophe.

@eugenieponleve667

4 ай бұрын

@@Pickettytitch69-om7nk Keep your spite ,racism and ignorance to yourself;England has left.Enjoy and mind your business.

Another top video Rob best wishes and very good health for 2024 Stephen

@TruthToPower

5 ай бұрын

Happy New Year, Stephen.

@stephenroche5107

5 ай бұрын

@@TruthToPower Thank you

The rift remains very dip in between Brexiters and Remainers and there are lack of sign for narrowing. For us Brexit is done, not in the UK. It's not nice to have grappeling members , in our house.

You know what's interesting when you look at pre-2016 videos of Brexit? The massive amount of support for Brexit. And now? Almost 0? Have all these people been convinced that Brexit was a bad idea indeed? Or has the UK been victim of foreign influence?

Cheers Rob, since @RishiSunak assisted in breaking the banking system in 2008, our Country must now be around 15yrs behind in every method of where the UK stands compared to our close European Countries. Let's not make the same mistake again, as these grifters in charge return to that banking system & begin to raid & crash the very same system that made them Multi-Millionaires. #ToriesOut544 #GTTO #Waspi #MPSTheft #WakeyWakey #ElectionNow #VoteTactically

The problem isn't the 7% lower GDP now. It's the compounded lower growth that's what gets you. Just like compound interest is very nice, compound slower growth isn't. 3% lower growth yearly means (0,97)^20 = 0,54 --> 46% less growth over a 20 year period.

You can’t beat stupidity

@skabuoy

5 ай бұрын

You can beat stupid people though. But that is 'frowned upon' by the law. And rightly so, I might add.

What I propose is: - a software creator writes some software that counts the number of times the phrases listed at 03:00 are used on GB News, Talk TV and Spectator TV, - there is a lottery run every week and whoever gets the correct numbers walks away with the jackpot. Such a scheme could be used to raise the £350M per week promised for the NHS. Everyone's a winner !

Brexiteers remind me of a saying about someone who doesn`t learn about their mistakes?

Yoicks! Hoisted on my own petard!

Can’t help feeling those who voted Leave and now live in the Brexit Paradise of their imagination should pay a special tax (poll tax?) to make up the shortfall in our gdp. You got what you wanted. Grow up and take some responsibility as you’ve ruined our dear country

I see Leave supporters stubbornly clinging to the idea that keeping immigrants out will make everything better.