Happy Monday guys! Hope you all had a fantastic weekend! Big thanks to Tommy from TFL for helping us shoot this video, he joins us during the driving scene incase you missed seeing his thoughts on the 2023 Palisade 🙃

@heyfrancis3332

Жыл бұрын

shoutout to Sofyan in North Carolina! my home state 😄

@FrenchArrogance

Жыл бұрын

Great video. Slight correction around 12:36 that with the '23 refresh those are now USB-C connections integrated in the front row seats for the second row passengers to use. (The one in storage bin is USB-A though as you correctly pointed out at 10:36 )

@gottgaame

Жыл бұрын

The bmw x1 is way cheaper than this car. U can’t really compare this to an x7 because it offers a lot more features

@reserva120

Жыл бұрын

A X7 is stupid more expensive than this car - stop cherry picking .

Hyundai is killing it. This thing is so nice. The black interior doesn’t look that great to me, but that lighter coloured interior is GORGEOUS!!

Tbh, I love how the more mainstream brands are offering even more than your luxury brands. Heated 3rd row seats, ventilated 2nd row...you would be paying extra for that in the big Germans. I see why there is demand for the palisade. Fantastic interior.

@microtransactions2661

Жыл бұрын

Massage

@billwynne27

Жыл бұрын

HOME DID NOT MENTION THE SELF DRIVE CAPABILITIES. I GOT 2020 SANTA FE ELITE TURBO, KINDA WANDERS BACK AND FORTH, THE ROAD IS BASIC CAUSE FOR THAT. TEST DROVE 2022 AND MUCH BETTER, ALMOST ALWAYS IN CENTER OF LANE. I DID NOT GET TO TEST ON EVEN ROADS VERY MUCH BUT FANTASTIC. YOU CAN LEAVE HANDS OF WHEEL FOR UP TO FORT SECONDS, JUST KEEP FINGER ON SPOKE, PUSH LIKE A TURN A LITTLE AND IT RESETS. YOU LEARN TO HANDLE AND JUST SIT THERE CRUISING IN LUXURY. THIS SATURDAY THERE SO MANY PEOPLE AT DEALER NO PARKING SPACES. ALMOST ALL PALISADES WERE SOLD. SO PRICES WERE A BIT HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. GUY BOUGHT MY TESTER, NEVE R GOT TO DRIVE THAT ONE. SILVER WITH LIGHT DARK INTERIOR. HE HAD FIVE KIDS. 😂😂😂😂😂

Dealers are beating consumers over the head with “market adjustments” and it’s disgusting.

@randyfine4535

Жыл бұрын

come to Canada, no markups are allowed. MSRP is as high as they can go.

@hugdeath929

Жыл бұрын

@@randyfine4535 perfect.

@andresmattos7541

Жыл бұрын

MORE DISGUSTING ARE YOU PEOPLE WHO KEEP BUYING THE CARS, DEALERS ARE HERE TO MAKE MONEY, ITS YOU PEOPLE WHO KEEP BUYING THEIR CARS.

@hugdeath929

Жыл бұрын

@@andresmattos7541 Thanks 😉

@erenbas80

Жыл бұрын

Yeah just do not buy

The Palisade has always been the best designed SUV in the mid sized market in my opinion. Many like the Telluride better but this Palisade just looks so dang good. The interior of any vehicle is important to me and this calligraphy trim would be my preference. The tech and luxurious interior make this my top pick.

@christianflores6626

Жыл бұрын

What about luxury SUV? What’s your take, I personally think the aviator is a nice vehicle, the GV80 is up there too though

@richardrybarczyk1143

Жыл бұрын

@@christianflores6626 …I do agree with you on the Aviator and the GV80. I’ve always liked Lincoln products this Aviator deserves a spot on the top of my list. The GV80 is another example of Genesis’s effort to bring desirable vehicles to the market. What’s lacking in the industry is a full size sedan. I think they made a mistake in completely eliminating this from the market place. From Ford’s decision to eliminate the Taurus and Chevy’s Impala it created a hole in the market. I would like a full size sedan for its comfort. There are some full size sedans available but the price is not affordable to the average American. I’ve seen the design of vehicles change over the last 60 years, my first new car was a 1970 Dodge Charger. My very fist car was a 1965 Chevelle convertible. Those were the days, as the song goes, and I do miss them. Have a great day Christian.

@christianflores6626

Жыл бұрын

@@richardrybarczyk1143 I’ll have to agree with you as well lol. My wife and I currently going to trade in our impala for an aviator. We absolutely love the impala but with a growing family an SUV is more practical. The impala though is an amazing vehicle and I hope it comes back, even if it was as an EV.

@richardrybarczyk1143

Жыл бұрын

@@christianflores6626 …The Aviator is a good choice , like I said Lincoln makes some great vehicles. Good luck with it.

@Mitzoplick

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the Telluride grill design to the Palisade.

My wife and I fell in love with the 2023 Palisade SEL premium package. After owning it for a month we love it even more. It's the best thought out automobile that I've ever had the pleasure to drive.

I appreciate Sofyan pushing back on the turbo suggestion. Families who are buying the Palisades aren't looking for turbos that take premium fuel. NA V6 is much more preferred for this car segment.

Sofyan honoring The Straight Pipes with the “Peasant Blockers”! lol

I still dont understand why everyone loves the telluride more. This thing is beautiful

Watching Sofyan is always a pleasure but Tommy made this video even better!

Wife is wanting a 7 seater and we took a look at the palisade and honestly it’s a beautiful car and very appealing. Price, warranty, and so many beautiful features.

You should do a side by side conparison of Palisade vs Telluride, which happen to be refreshed simultaneously

Wow, it makes everything right in this segment, a pretty nice blend of modern tech and classical practicability.

Took one for a test drive over the weekend, $52,000 Caligraphy, I was blown away with all that comes in that car at that price point.

@Mark1Mach2

Жыл бұрын

Dang man 50k no less.

More TFL x Redline collabs please.

Great video as always Sofian. What is the massaging seat like?

My ONLY disappointment with Hyundai here is that we had a 2019 Palisade Limited, which is basically the same as the current Calligraphy. So when we recently upgraded to the 2023 we looked at the Limited and would have been taking a step backwards. Also we paid 45k and now by having to step up to the Calligraphy in order to match our out going Palisade Limited, it cost us around 7k more. Pretty big jump Hyundai in just 3 years. I will say that Hyundai kind of made up for it with our trade. We did receive back around 5k more than what we owed so was happy about that. I brought this over to my cousin who has a 2019 Escalde he paid almost 80k for. We went over all the options, the interior, I took him out and showed him how GREAT the highway driving assist is on this Palisade. I said now you know that Cadillac RIPPED you off Cuz. I'm not rubbing it in, but I told you when I drove your Escalde that you could of done better and saved a ton of money

How was the audio system? Some have complained it doesn't sound as good as the pre-refresh.

So I went in and saw these and got one and man we love it and recommend to anyone who is interested. Super nice super luxurious and comfortable. Drives really smooth and just does what it’s meant to do in style. 😊

Had all kinds of trouble trading our 2019 Palisade Limited in. Had to leave the first dealership because the money they offered for the trade was just put on the back end of the price. They had a mark up of over 7k. The other dealership got us as well but it was a 1500 dollar markup. Its ridiculous what these dealerships are doing, especially used dealerships. But hey if people keep buying why should they offer a legit price. I know I payed slightly over MSRP, but what I got back in trade made up for that, and still didn't want to do the deal.

i’m honestly fine with the carplay being wired. my parent’s base model 21 palisade with the smaller screen but wireless function has a very finicky connection when it’s wirelessly connected. there was supposedly a fix but the car refuses to acknowledge the USB stick we downloaded the fix from 😅

Those wheels are beautiful. The paint is stunning too. I’m impressed.

I wish those dual exhausted been separated I think it gives it a much more luxurious look when you have dual exhaust coming back for the vehicle

I picked up the new 2023 Palisade Calligraphy two weeks ago, have already put 2000 miles on it and I love it. The features are incredible. I’m waiting until I reach 10k before I tow with it. I may make a vid. This really is a luxury vehicle at an affordable price vs it’s competitors.

@gosman949

Жыл бұрын

but no Apple Carplay wireless. Shameful!

@HiJinx01

Жыл бұрын

@@gosman949 true they need to add this, I wish they would offer a software update to add it

@kustomchevy27

Жыл бұрын

How much you pay?

@HiJinx01

Жыл бұрын

@@kustomchevy27 60k, I’m at 8800mi and while I still enjoy it I’m slightly irritated at Hyundai for not including the tow hitch and roof racks or a cargo cover at that price point. They didn’t even include wheel locks and the dealer had to add carpet mats. To me that’s cheap. Vid is forthcoming when I get to 10 k

@billwynne27

Жыл бұрын

@@HiJinx01 I THOUGHT THE TOWING PACKAGE AND HITCH WERE INCLUDES I'VE SEEN IT WITH THEM.

SEL with premium package has receiver hitch for towing ? Or we need to pay extra to add ?

I personally noticed that the back has changed. They went to a full reflective bar across the rear bumper with the reverse lights integrated. Also the exhaust tips are now square and they look painted differently

@JT-fq2bl

Жыл бұрын

And those hidden backlights were horizontal but now are vertical.

@billwynne27

Жыл бұрын

ON MY SONATA SPORT, IT HAD DUAL EXHAUST. THE PALISADES ALL SHOULD HAVE DUAL EXHAUST, VERY NICE LOOKING.

Didn’t see where you tried out the blind spot cameras that come on with the turn signals. We bought a new Palisade Limited in 2020 for my wife. She loves it, especially all the cameras, power rear seats. The V6 is nice and smooth. Plenty of traction with the AWD. We don’t keep vehicles past 100k miles so we’ll get another one in a few years.

Let's get a review on the XRT trim next. As always love the videos.

@Redline Reviews it's just the outer seats on the bench seat that are heated/air conditioned right?

Would you get this or the MDX? Thanks

What is those lights for just to right of the infotainment screen?

Will the black leather show dirt or cracks easily? The car we are getting is an SEL Premium white exterior with black interior.

Shout-out to The Straight Pipes for teaching Sofyan "Peasant Blockers" lol

I have been waiting for your review 😊. I’ve seen commercials for the Santa Fe and they feature child safety lock controls on the driver’s side door, does the palisade have that feature too?

Hyundai never rests on a design for too long,always keeping things new😎

@Igloo_papi

Жыл бұрын

Completely opposite of Toyota

@klasseact6663

Жыл бұрын

@@Igloo_papi ...and Chrysler or whatever name they are this week🙄

@alexrazmjookhah4947

Жыл бұрын

@@klasseact6663 stelantis lol

@klasseact6663

Жыл бұрын

@@alexrazmjookhah4947 yeth

@canadianaviator

Жыл бұрын

Facelift every 2-3 years. Full change every 4-5 years.

For those of you skeptical about Hyundai offering so much for such a small relative price, (like wondering where they could’ve cheapened out) here are a couple of reasons why: One of the reasons Hyundai’s tend to be cheaper than the competition is that they’re able to in-source their steel from South Korea as opposed to other manufacturers who typically import it. This allows them to save money on tariffs and other related costs, and pass those savings to consumers. Another reason is because this is Hyundai’s first entrance into the 3-row midsize SUV segment in America. They want to capture as much of the market as they can, largely in part by offering a low price. They did the same strategy with the 1st gen Hyundai Equus, which topped out at ~$65k. Now if you want to get a new Equus (now called the Genesis G90), the cheapest one goes for mid $70k. Basically, take advantage of the low price of the Palisade now that you can, because Hyundai is likely to raise the price considerably for the 2nd generation once they feel they’d captured a desirable portion of the market by that point.

@AvocadoAtrocity

Жыл бұрын

4. Use complete garbage suspension and components, trash engine, and electronics that will most certainly die. They make these cars like disposable cameras. Enough to survive the lease.

@victreebel170

Жыл бұрын

I don't disagree that they're cheaper than the competition, but your Equus comparison is wrong. The Equus started at $58k in 2011. Inflation in the past 11 years equates to $75k in 2022 dollars. So the Equus was not a comparative deal.

@user-qg2tl3jk9z

Жыл бұрын

@@victreebel170 I just remember that in 2014, you could get an Equus fully loaded for around $65k. Adjusted for inflation in 2022, that’s around $81k (according to an online calculator at least). And I actually just checked Genesis website, the G90 now starts at $88k and only gets pricier from there. So my point still stands, although good call.

@chiemekaa

Жыл бұрын

@@user-qg2tl3jk9z You have a point there, but nowadays even $88k is relatively 'affordable'. Consider that a fully loaded F-150 Lightning (not an apples-to-apples comparison) will set you back $90k at least. As far as luxury competitors go, the next 'cheapest' is the Lexus LS500 which starts at $77k before any options that'll bring it up to a comparably equipped G90. The Luxury Package on that is $11k, and if you think that pricey, you can try the Executive Package for $27k. The G90 already has most of those features standard and still stays under $100k with everything checked. I won't even mention any of the European Big 3.

@theholt2ic219

Жыл бұрын

That’s kinda of how I look at it. They are trying to under cut the competition and getting customers by selling them at prices that more realistic. Other auto makers are selling their SUVs for like 60k-80k because they can. Once Hyundai has a foot hold then it will increase prices no doubt. To me all it shows is that other auto makers could still sell there vehicles at 45k-55k and still be fine. The quality of components needs to be seen because if they sell a piece of crap they will only ruin what they are trying to accomplish.

Hi Sofyan - another great review !!! I heard a rumor that Hyundai may release a Palisade hybrid model either later this year or in early 2024. Have you heard anything about this?

@haroldbeauchamp3770

Жыл бұрын

Just a rumor. There’s currently no production plans for a hybrid on this generation.

So digital key card finally works for apple? Or coming soon?

I wish you could get this trim with a bench in the second row. It would be the perfect midsize family SUV if it had that as a $0 option just like it it is on the SEL trim with the Premium package

@momsjustknow5750

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I would rather have a bench seat on the Limited model.

Really nice review, thank you so much🙏🏻

I hope you enjoyed your time in my town! Asheville/Blueridge Parkway is a pretty nice place to be, especially love cruising the parkway. Love the video, and wish I could swing getting such a nice SUV for myself lol.

@Rocket9944

Жыл бұрын

I always like Ashville, I plan to move there some day.

XRT is amazing . Booked one recently.. can't wait..

Great video! Now when is the 2023 Telluride video dropping?!

@redlinereviews do you prefer this or the grand Cherokee L?

Is that the Beige/Navy interior? It looks more blue than black. I was thinking beige was the primary color, but I can only find mention of beige/navy and black.

I love the peasant blockers. 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏼💯 That's DC for you. I'm upset that the massage seat is not on the passenger side too. One would think it's more important for the passenger to have. Awesome review as well.

Wait what. Bro you were in my town. No wonder I saw so many 2023 Palisades driving around.

When can we expect 2023 Telluride in the market and in your channel?

I’m stuck between the GV80 and the Aviator, what’s your take?

does it have 3 seater version for second row?

Intro music is fire, awesome work !

The only thing I don’t like about our 2022 Palisade is how firm the seats are. After long drives my back is sore. Other than that it’s an amazing car

@robertjackson1103

Жыл бұрын

Me either, it’s firm, sore after 2/3 hrs

@luvtiti

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the constructive criticism. We need more of this.

@haroldbeauchamp3770

Жыл бұрын

That’s been an unfortunate trend for about the last 20 years. Firmer and flatter. They add multiple adjustments yet fail to fix the problem - firmness. I want tufted, pillow-top seats. I want to be able to cruise all day and feel like I’ve been on my favorite lazy boy. Not a sadistic contortionist chair.

Great review! Although for the third row review section opening the rear sunroof would have let in more light. Also the camera person should have pulled back the second row to get a side profile of you to see how far your knees were to the second row. When will the 2023 Telluride be available for review?

@theredline

Жыл бұрын

Kia hasn’t said when the 2023 model will be available to drive but it should be sometime soon. Stay tuned!

The Apple Car Play and Android Auto can easily go wireless. I’ve done it to mine, without any modifications. I just bought a little $30 gadget from Amazon or E Bay, and it works perfectly for everything, from Navigation to music 🎶 I just love it…but most of all, I love the vehicle itself. No need for any upgrades or modifications. Just got mine 2 weeks ago 🥰😎

Cool presentation Sir👍🏼

Can you do one for XRT trim? It’s almost 10k less.

@robmalcolm8042

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t know that model was so much cheaper it actually looks as good as this one.

What's up with no grab thing above Driver seat? I was surprised there is no grab thingy above driver side in my vehicle

@princesiraj1

Жыл бұрын

Well it's good to know that's not just missing in my Elantra N.

I had a Palisade when it first came out but it had really bad driver wind noise. It wasn't just freeway noise, it sounded like a loud whistling. Have they fixed that issue yet? Anyone know?

@eBikify

Жыл бұрын

Yes. This was fixed in 2021 model year

Great vehicle. Agree with the 2 gripes although they are not show-stoppers for me. A third gripe is no power-folding side mirrors which is an issue for us with a relatively narrow garage door. C-mon man!

@billwynne27

Жыл бұрын

THAT WIERD, YOU CAN REMOTE DRIVE IT OUT TO THE TIGHT SPACE. I THOUGHT IT HAD THEM

Got one as a rental. Kinda love it and I daily a semi-hot hatch 👍🏾

The 2023 Telluride has also upgraded to a full digital dash display in the higher trims, simiar to the Palisade

It’s not official until Redline Reviews reviews it.

Great review! Agree that it would be nice to have the additional hybrid option. On wireless CarPlay, I’ve owned around 5 cars now that had it…they all sucked except for my Tesla. The rest are finicky, make the phone really hot, had connectivity issues, and the charging rate could barely keep up with the usage rate if you are using the phone for music, podcasts, etc…so, I’m fine without it…

The Palisade is the best of all, inside space and tech. Obviously still missing some touches that I would like to see in the future like, engine options, self parking assistance, cool ventilated seats on the third row, blackout version for the top of the line, light in the third row, better ambient lighting and motorized second row. All thse will make it the best of all.

@billwynne27

Жыл бұрын

IT KICKS GERMAN SUVS IN THE BUTTOCKS FOR PRICE AND ACCESORIES. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE 3RD ROW. HUNDEE KNOWS🤗🤗🤗

Just ordered my 23 and trading in the far too old 22….should be here next month :)

Acura mdx and hyundai palisades. Which one is better family car?

The problem is where can you buy one at list price

Yes you all, GOOD MONDAY TO EVERYONE!

3:40 the light is required by Korean law but became standard on North American models cause of feedbacks received based on the pre facelift models for some reason lol.

If you can move the seats of the middle 2nd row forward a little, then those sitting in the seats of the third 3rd row should have quite a lot of legroom. 🤔

I have a Santa Fe turbo. I wouldn’t get a turbo engine from Hyundai. It burns oil at only 60 k and has other issues. Hyundais not really good with turbo stuff. People should be very happy they are getting a naturally aspirated engine. Very strong point

I really like this so much like a lot but don’t know if I love it. I’m suppose to go in and look at one but just don’t know what it is. Well actually it’s the engine but it’s not like I need a fast 7 seater. Man o man.

What's your favorite3 rowsuv?

That's cool that Tommy is in the video. Maybe yall should do more videos together

Now please please please Hyundai...please offer a blacked out version. This in white with black chrome....amazing.

If they add a Hybrid option to bring that combined MPG to 30, I'm in. Otherwise it's a Highlander or Sienna for me at 36 MPG

@brianlee9233

Жыл бұрын

I think that is very unlikely to happen to the Palisade nor the sister Telluride. (NA V6 all the way!)

@jd6197

Жыл бұрын

I personally think opposite, the hybrids are underpowered, too noisy and unresponsive, they should have added extra electric motor without downsizing the gas engine

@quannj

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 palisade and a 22 sienna,the sienna interior is trash compared to my 20 palisade

Do you prefer this over the 2022 Telluride?

power fold mirrors?

You said it has a kick-to-open rear tailgate. I thought all Hyundais had the stand there for a while and it opens tailgate. I much prefer the kick variety, as I stand there at times and don't want to open it.

Make this a PHEV or at least a HEV option and I'm in! Best looking luxury SUV for the price!

@brianlee9233

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. And if they are to bring the PHEV or HEV (I don't understand why they'd do that), bring back the federal tax incentive for all the PHEVs and HEVs.

How Hyundai Palisade v6 gdi engine is? Is this very good quality v6 engine? Will this engine run for 400k to 500k km? Can anyone say about it?

@paulpen1984

Жыл бұрын

their v6 are much better than 4cyl, no recalls or fire history, not sure about 400-500k but I drive 2010 santa fe 3.5l with 207k

That’s weird that apple carplay is wired. Because the previous model Hyundai updated their software to have wireless Apple CarPlay. I know because I have a 2021 Palisade 😅 Also what I don’t think any general car reviewer knows is that you can assign different profiles to different drivers. So you can save your radio settings, CarPlay settings etc to the assigned driver

It’s an attractive package no doubt but it does have necessary changes needed. The massive grille needs to be reduced significantly, the low mounted headlights dazzle oncoming drivers and need to be raised to the top of the grille area, the power needs to be increased either by using the 2.5t engine at a minimum.

@wil318466

Жыл бұрын

The grill is beautiful, it's what made me notice the car in the first place. The engine is actually fine for family needs, personally I'm not in need for a lot of power when driving my wife and kids around, I'm looking for comfort.

@miragexl007

11 ай бұрын

The mass of grill has always been in turn off.. But when it's blacked out now, The vehicles more appealing.

@haroldbeauchamp3770

11 ай бұрын

@@miragexl007 I’m in the automotive industry and the trends are starting to skew away from the blacked out packages that have almost dominated for the better part of a decade. Satin nickel and bronze packages are the directions the auto manufacturers are going next. Chrome, blacked out, is all cyclical.

My man just spoke for nearly 23 minutes straight without taking a breath

great video

Im looking to go for this from 2010 ford focus... lol i think the engine not being turbo will be fine for me...

So you have to purchase 2 or more tickets to get 25 off ?

Smart money on this and I love the features for the price, I'm torn between new Sequioa TRD Sport at 62k for the extra power and towing but this gives you Benz creature comforts for less money, hard to pass up....we'll see when I start test driving

@TILINwho

Жыл бұрын

76K for the sequoia

@gumerdominguez4091

Жыл бұрын

Sequoia all the way reliability plus the Kia Hyundai have had big problems with engine fire for years. Just to know

@Rocket9944

Жыл бұрын

@@gumerdominguez4091 , the newer Hyundai's are very reliable

@waynerm002

Жыл бұрын

@@gumerdominguez4091 Those issues seem to be centered around the 2.4L and 2.0T, not the v6 to my knowledge. The are using the 1.6T now across the line, I think there is also a new 2.0 e fine but I haven’t been following them closely on the ICE cars, just the EVs now. Soon both Hyundai and KIA will have electric 7 passenger vehicles, I believe both are slated for release next year.

For a NA V6 it does decent but really should have the 3.3 from the stinger leaving the 3.5 for Genesis

Awesome Video

I test drive it today, nice car

I love watching your videos

Can manufacturers stop with the massive maw/ front grill areas!!😎😎Give us a little more sleek, modern aero look

great reviews. very detailed and comprehensive. one suggestion would be to either ditch the sunglasses or wear dark lenses....then we can't see your cameras or camera man.

As many of the commenters stated I also think the wheels look great.

So far I'm more impressed with the truck upgrades like the Colorado

Can you please do the kia caravel review next if you don’t mind. Mom of two kids here and I would like your take on this car.

The smart tailgate doesn’t have the foot-kick activation, you just stand there for a few seconds and it opens automatically. Also, Wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto aren’t useable with the navigation system because the Smart Cruise Control and Highway Drive Assist is navigation-based. CarPlay/AA override the built-in system so those safety features won’t work properly. USB-C ports, not USB-A other than the port for CarPlay/AA.

@Dizney82

Жыл бұрын

What happens if you’re just hanging out around the rear of the vehicle? (Doing something behind or talking to someone)

@stevemcfaul8945

Жыл бұрын

Good to know there is a valid reason for not including wireless car play...safety.

@NinjaDecimator

Жыл бұрын

@@Dizney82 the smart release feature only works when the doors are locked, so if the doors are unlocked, you’re fine. If the sensor does start beeping to let you know that it’s about to open, just walk out of range (just a few feet from the tailgate), and the countdown stops.

@NinjaDecimator

Жыл бұрын

@@stevemcfaul8945 safety was the big reason behind it. They still work, just not the why they’re intended.

I wish they would have a 400hp option like the Explorer, Tahoe Rst or Durango

@Stressless2023

Жыл бұрын

Only the domestic brands seem to be offering performance options which is interesting. Apparently there's a demand for them so I don't know why the Koreans and Japanese aren't responding.

@WowItsVastalis

Жыл бұрын

@@Stressless2023 probably something to be said about the types of people who buy domestic over foreign as well. Domestic just seems to be power and nothing much else, including quality. Korean and Japanese manufacturers seem to focus more on balance of quality and power to match affordability for their target demographic.

@robmalcolm8042

Жыл бұрын

@@WowItsVastalis ironically you can easily make a Korean or Japanese car destroy domestic in a race by tuning with the potential. European cars tend to outmatch them too since American cars are always heavy

@Stressless2023

Жыл бұрын

@@robmalcolm8042 I don't think any Korean or Japanese competitor in "this" particular 3-row class could tune their offerings to match the high-output domestic versions within any reasonable price barrier, particularly when nearly 400hp Dodge Durango's already exist for around the same money... Although the trade-off is overall quality and luxury content by comparison.

@Stressless2023

Жыл бұрын

@@WowItsVastalis Yes I could certainly see a trade-off there, although I don't think the Koreans or Japanese balance the "power" part very well in this category. They both seem to give up a good bit of market share to the domestics by not offering something to consumers who may prioritize power, which there seems to be plenty of (i.e. people who lease). I doubt the Dodge Durango would still enjoy such relatively strong sales if the Korean twins offered something with at least base model Hemi performance. I think even the Chevy Traverse/Buick Enclave twins outperform them and they don't even offer performance versions.

Wow I like the new look!!!