I bought a brand new 2023 Honda Civic Touring sedan in January. It’s an automatic, 1.5 turbo w/CVT. Honda has gone back to their design roots. The 11th gen design is just beautiful. I love the understated, polished exterior and semi-luxury interior. Mine is meteorite metallic gray with a two-tone black/gray interior (but looks ivory to me). It was definitely pricey for a Civic but I’m super happy with it. Understated yet very classy, with Honda reliability.

"The turn signal is not sequuntial?" Sofia, this is not an audi. Just to have the led bar for turn signal is already good. Next time you gonna say " the civic doesn't have láser head lights or massage seats", of course us doesn't because this is not a $ 80,000 dollars car. Same thing with the plástics of these $30,000 cars, everyone including you always complains thats there are lots of plastics but that's ok they are economy cars.

love this guys videos man literally i have been watching your videos since my first car back when i was in high school aha!

I love my sport touring! I have the pearl white with the grey interior. I definitely think that the lighter interior makes it feel much brighter and classier of an interior. I have had no issues with anything and everything looks awesome. I have gotten 39 MPG with the CVT on the highway, very impressive!

@effend446

2 жыл бұрын

Honda CVT's actually do not suck. In fact (with proper maintenance), Honda's present-day CVT's have proven to be even more reliable than not only their early CVT's, but also their conventional automatic transmissions. Like Toyota, Honda has good engineers who learn from their mistakes.

@mperry0302

2 жыл бұрын

I ended up reserving the silver sport touring which only comes in black interior. Was super close to getting the white and gray but didn’t wanna pull the trigger on white being the more expensive color 🤷🏻‍♂️

@AlexThorn

2 жыл бұрын

That's great!

@michaelpoquette3182

2 жыл бұрын

WOW, that's the same color exterior and interior I ordered. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of trust in the dealership. I was told in writing that it was built about a month ago and I could expect it to hit the dealership about now, or within about the next week, Earlier this week, the salesman finally wrote and said it was being built this past week and it would be another month. I am really ticked about this, but as you can probably guess, how much of a fuss can you make? This is NOT how cars should be sold and delivered. I'll let you know in about a month if it actually comes in or not. I have my doubts based on what has happened. Oh, and not long ago, they dropped the number of exterior colors and interior colors available in the build a Honda website.. Not sure if this was just a temporary thing or not. I had my heart set on the gray interior after seeing pics of it. Black interior is so common and boring as I see it. If they try to come along now and say I can't get the gray interior, I will be furious. I ordered this Feb. 28 and it sure was available at that time. Glad you are very happy with your choice and I hope I can say the same in a short time.

@stateniland

2 жыл бұрын

what was your OTD price?

i really do love my FL1! as soon as i seen the reveal in boost blue pearl i knew i had to get it! coming from a 10th gen civic touring sedan, i can say that it is a huge upgrade.

I have a 10th gen hatch with a 6spd manual and I love it. The 1.5T engine is perfect.

Just got a new Civic Sport Touring, the drive is confident and fun and that's one main reason we picked it in this segment of cars. Wish it has seat cooling though because in SoCal that's useful.

I've owned 2 Civics over the years, an EX and a Si, and I loved them both. It has always been my 2nd fav compact car, right behind the Mazda3, but the Civic is the better bargain in my opinion. That said, I'm not crazy about Honda's move to only turbos on higher trims. I'd rather see a high revving naturally aspirated engine (maybe bring back the old 2.2) in performance Civics, but I know that ship has sailed.

I nearly bought the manual shifter based on so many enthusiastic reviewer comments. The dealer pushed me to get the automatic and I'm very pleased. The car is such a pleasure to drive and living in Toronto with so much stop and go driving, the CVT works beautifully. Smooth and responsive. The paddle shifters add a little extra fun. Overall, a wonderful car.

I got a 6MT Sport Touring - love the car overall, it’s a refined smooth driving commuter car with fun to drive factor. Wish it had driver side lumbar support though, otherwise it checks all the boxes for what it is.

@allussin2076

Жыл бұрын

Do you still have it ? Is it still worth it a year later ?

I'm a long time civic fan and owner. Had the 9th gen hybrid, 10th gen sport hatch. Me and my partner are about to get a sport touring hatch and we're super excited we test drove it and loved everything

Yesss.. been waiting for your in-depth review of this car! Torn between Mazda 3 GT hatch or this car.

Congrats on 900k!

Amazing car. great value! I have been on the hunt for one for my best friend since December for a 6MT and just am finding nothing within 300 miles (NY) , can't wait for him to get his hands on one and enjoy it! Maybe he will find an Integra first since they are going to be so similar, who knows...

@Lazirus951

2 жыл бұрын

They are very rare! Good luck, hope you can find one.

The juvenile look of the last gen, keeps me young. The center exhaust is very boy-racer and all the CUV dads on my block love it. Even my friend with the 6 series, which I can’t stand. I have the Sport CVT as I could not find a stick late in the model run. The car in sport mode blew me away! So fun! It has the in dash 8” entertainment screen and the stereo is very good for this non audiophile listener. At $25k it was hard to justify the +$5k for the Touring. I must say, I am a fan of the 10th gen car as it’s not another Audiesque mature jellybean. Still, very pleased that Honda has kept the hatch. Now they need a stick and a turbo in the regular Sport.

I saw one of these with the HPD appearance package and it really looked sharp.

Great review, this guy does not stutter a word lol 😂

At 16K miles now in my sport touring I love it so much I gladly run it about 27 mpgs most days 🤙🏻

This is the design that would look so good down the line. For what Honda been doing with past 3 generations of Civic, this is surely the best out there. A bit too much for the price but a complete package.

@bigmacdaddy1234

2 жыл бұрын

The price is right on this car. It has everything you could want.

Great review as always... curious what people think the next level up (upgrade) from this vehicle would be? IS there something like this but with AWD? I am not really a Subaru fan.

Grat review of the Acura Integra 2022 lol

Wow that interior really mimics an older higher trim BMW in the heater controls. That center console is really familiar!

I love this design so much! It actually looks like a futuristic version of the EK Civic. Which is nice that they did that because I think we can all agree the 6th generation is the definitive civic.

@ivanlowjones

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize you spoke on the behalf of the rest of us in claiming "we all agree the 6th gen Civic is the most definitive version".

@thomaschristopherwhite9043

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivanlowjones You're welcome.

@tornadoman25

2 жыл бұрын

Eh idk. 7th gen pretty iconic too. I see 7th and 10th gens more than any other civic on the road.

@battosaijenkins946

2 жыл бұрын

@ 5:40 heheh "My only gripe is Honda only offers the Sport Touring with the black interior, I would like them to see them offer in a darker interior..." - Exactly how darker than black do you want it? 🤣🤣

@jamstar1

2 жыл бұрын

@@battosaijenkins946 You took the words right out of my mouth.

Excellent review, I love the hatchback touring and the SI hard to choose. I have a accord 2.0 turbo 10 speed which I love but considering touring or Si as my next purchase.

@marktolsma8816

2 жыл бұрын

What kind of mpg's you getting with that Accord? Just kinda wondering why you're looking to downsize? Or do you just like the looks of the Civic better?

@vampyrelycan99

2 жыл бұрын

Of you are committed to driving an MT while being able to manage overall fuel economy, then choose the Si. If however you aim at easy city driving with a lot of stop-and-go then maybe the Sport Touring is more preferred. Anyway just my 0.02......

@kevin2jzzzz203

Жыл бұрын

How’s the accord 2.0 with the MPG ?

Great content as always Sofyan. Your presentation skills are amazing. I'm not super in love with the front end of this gen Civic and prefer the 8, 9, 10 gen front end. The 11 gen looks too much like an Accord imo

@alexv5581

Жыл бұрын

Civic used to look like a teenager car, now it looks more mature and elegant. All of those gens you mention are ugly in my opinion.

I can’t decide between this civic sports touring or the Elantra N . I have decided that the EN over the SI but for more practical use as a second vehicle I can’t decide if this sports touring hatch mt is a better fit. It checks more boxes and it’s almost as fun to drive as the EN Not worried about resale as I always keep my vehicles a long time and i’m not too worried about reliability as i had a elantra now for 13 yrs and a had a santa fe for over a decade and never had a issue with either one of them. I do love the look of the civic hatch more then the EN but the EN is just a beast on the road and bang for buck offers more. But something keeps on pulling me back to this sports touring hatch

The actual digital cluster is not bad but they could have made the housing look way more cohesive with a gloss black surround and not making it so far inset

I love my sport touring hatch!

Very Nice Bro! Get Good People!

I've been considering buying a new Civic Si, but if I buy a new Civic I might opt for a Sport Touring with the manual instead. I'd like to have the additional features the Sport Touring offers over the US version of the Si, and I don't think I'd miss the additional power and LSD all that much. Also, I like hatchbacks. But what I'll probably do -- if I buy a Honda product at all -- is wait for the new Acura Integra and buy the top spec with the 6-speed manual. It could be $5K more than this Civic, but then I'd get the best of both the Si and Sport Touring, and in an even better looking car (in my opinion).

@notmethanks816

2 жыл бұрын

Or get a GLI and get everything you actually want without the compromise. Honda should offer their top trims with a manual. The people buying manuals today are NOT looking for bottom trim models. Honda does not want to cater to those of us who have money now and still want a manual. I will also hold judgment until the integra comes out, but I am still pretty sure the GLI is going to be a nicer overall package. Hello if I could get an A4 with a manual, none of these offerings would be interesting.

@steve8803

Жыл бұрын

@@notmethanks816 the gli is not a hatchback, vw's long term reliability is questionable and the red trim around the fog lights is pretty tacky looking.

@timothycoyne5874

8 ай бұрын

As a follow-up to my comment a while back, I bought a new Civic Hatchback Sport Touring with 6-speed manual two weeks ago. I love it so far. To me this was a better choice for a daily driver and for trips with my wife than the Si, which lacks most of the creature comforts and some of the tech of the Sport Touring trim. What I would say to prospective buyers is to make your decision on what you value more - upscale features or driving dynamics. My car is fun to drive, but the extra hp, LSD, and stronger brakes of the Si are worth the trade-off in luxury features if you value driving dynamics more. The ride is fine in my car, especially for a compact car, but I'll be upgrading the rear sway bar soon to reduce body roll. I may upgrade brakes or at least brake pads at some point, too. I test drove the Integra a few times in the last couple years and liked it, and there have been a couple times in the last two weeks I thought maybe I should have bought the Acura instead, but the additional $5K for an A-Spec with Tech package to get the manual is a lot of money, and the upgrades from my ST to the Integra just weren't worth it to me at this time. I wanted a lower car payment than what I was making, cheaper maintenance, and better fuel economy. Also, it helped I was able to get my car in Boost Blue, which was a big factor. Maybe in a few years I'll upgrade to an Integra, or maybe a Type S!

Really nice car! Fun to drive.

Love that color combo with the five-spoke type wheels as well, sharp car...tho I don't love the back-end

@2004cyrus

2 жыл бұрын

I love a sexy rear end like this one

Hi! Just wanna ask if it's safe on snowy condition? Thanks in advance

I’m finally beginning to see more of these on the road. Because the design is understated it looks way better in a colored paint versus a white/black exterior., but it’s definitely better in person. The interior is great and reminiscent of the civic of old. I’d love to see how this stands up against the mazda3 and the Elantra.

@2004cyrus

2 жыл бұрын

It stands up great

@bigmacdaddy1234

2 жыл бұрын

Mazda 3 is junk. It looks good on the outside but underneath it is built with subpar materials and buggy software. Go to the Mazda 3 forum and read all the complaints. It's pretty bad.

Just picked up this exact car this week. I've been blown away now how smooth the clutch is on it. 30 mpg so far with 200 Miles. Absolutely in love with it

@Ty-uy6bf

2 жыл бұрын

Bought one too, loving it so far. Its only $20,000!!!

@brysonwilliams9385

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ty-uy6bf I got the sport touring model so it was a little more pricey but yes a very good entry level car

@2004cyrus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ty-uy6bf wow that is dirt cheap! Who is selling $20,000 Civics?

@Noseycone

2 жыл бұрын

This car looks amazing but this exact model doesn’t seem to be available near me 😭

@brysonwilliams9385

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noseycone get ahold of your dealer to order one. That's what I had to do.

I'm starting to see a lot of the New Civic on the road! Just wish the 9in infotainment starts with the Ex.

Didn't like the styling when first revealed but this Civic has really grown into its own. With a 6 speed stick it's even better now. Gundam UC0096 Guitar Anime MV kzread.info/dash/bejne/rK1rw66eh5mrm5s.html King of Fighters 15 Nameless theme Guitar MV kzread.info/dash/bejne/n21rzLWqqKzNYNo.html Gundam Hathaway Main Theme Guitar MV (Senkou) kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZNlmrWedMLZiaw.html

They finally put the sunglass holder. I owned a '19 civic hatch and it bugged me that they didn't add the sunglass holder, I had to go on amazon to buy the sunglasses visor clip.

I’ve come to enjoy Sofyan’s reviews to the point I can’t watch other car review channels. I wonder if the civic is considered the overall entry level compact sedan/hatch segment leader?

This is a great car, but I wish Honda offered better colors i it than just white, grey and black. I'd also like seeing a comparison between the new Integra 6spd manual transmission and the Honda Civic HB Sport Touring 6spd manual transmission.

Touring sedan has 18 inch alloy wheels. Heated steering wheel is a dealer installed accessory on the Accord.

How is this compare to the new Integra? I’m excited to find out. Please address this on your Integra review video.

just curious are some of your videos made in pennsylvania

I wonder how much larger or smaller the Integra trunk will be compared to the civic hatch

If this has a tunnel for the drive shaft then I know the integra will have sh-awd and get a type s. I’m wondering why they won’t add the ivtm 4 system on the civic. Probably because the Honda system is made for ruggedness and the Acura version is performance based.

I want it but these dealerships think that I'm going to pay a 5k+ markup for one of these I can wait lol

Civic is probably best option in the market, ofcourse after Mazda3. Also, for a bit lower price but still very good, there's Ceed, Focus and i30.

You mentioned not having more colours to choose from when it comes to the manual, not sure if that’s just in the States but here in Canada, we get all six colours, including the boost blue

I love my boost blue sport touring. Color def turns some heads but also gets annoying when other car try to race me when I'm just driving normally. I do have the HPD package which does give it more of a street sport appearance. Can't wait for 3rd parties to come out with more accessories (side skirt, front lips, exhaust, etc). Car is paint corrected and ceramic coated so it looks beautiful. And I'm looking to chrome delete my window trim and touring badge to match my already black emblems. Lots of plans coming up. :D

@Lazirus951

2 жыл бұрын

Right there with you man. The HPD package really takes it to the next level and upgrades the front/back looks. I was worried the boost blue would be a bit loud for me, but I think the HPD kits brings it all together. I'm looking forward to the aftermarket tail light options for either a more clear or tinted look.

@user-rn4tt9gw2p

Жыл бұрын

There is nothing sport about a civic 😂 eco car that’s it

Lol in Canada the touring and sport touring model have the heated steering wheel and all 4 heated seats

This channel has done what I've been waiting years for. It looks fantastic in full screen portrait mode on a smartphone. 🙏💯🇺🇲 Edit: it was just the opening intro but very well done on that imo 👍

The best civic I’ve ever owned so far

@Noseycone

2 жыл бұрын

I have the 2018 and these new features make it so tempting to upgrade !

@bigmacdaddy1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noseycone The 2018 is hideous.

I bought the 2021 civic hatchback sport touring. I wonder if the new one is more quiet. I knew 2020/2021 civic added some sound insulation material. It feels quiet below 40MPH but still feel kind of annoying on shitty highway road. lol

Should I lease this new civic , keep my 2020 sport civic or look at a different car ?? Can’t decide

Our 2020 Civic HB Sport w/6sp is fantastic. I am considering replacing it with the '22 HB Sport Touring w/6spd, but I am disappointed in that it only comes in white, black or grey...Instead I might step up to the new Integra in Blue...we'll see.

@2004cyrus

2 жыл бұрын

Blue? You know that’s the worst color on a car. At least to industry insiders. Which I work with. Managers crap their pants when people come in to trade blue cars. They have a reputation of looking “cheap” all the bosses and executives say. Although good for young people. Anyways they are hard to sell so we don’t offer nearly as much money on trade for blue cars. The bosses always say uh oh here comes a “no sale blue car.” Manufacturers are cranking them out of course and colors are in these days so times are changing. My bosses have always been older white men. They just hate blue cars lol. The neutral cars seem to hold onto value tremendously.

@2004cyrus

2 жыл бұрын

Your blacks love those colors though they buy blue like hot cakes! So if you are black then ignore everything I said earlier and get blue. You Asians love white. It’s amazing how different ethnicities gravitate toward different colors and wheels! Omg. Or a carpeted dash board lol

Is this basically one step down the SI in performance?

Great commuter

Is there any way to get this trim without the start stop?

Great video - love this car!

Look at how many competing and even luxury models you have to pay extra for Apple Carplay, safety suite and LED headlights! You can get accent lighting. It’s not “faux aluminum”, it’s black on the Sport Touring and it’s called a herringbone pattern. The Touring sedan has silver colored switchgear trim.

Why didn't they extend the hood to the end/edge? Looks off how ot opens from the top.

If Rob were in the passenger seat, we'd see a 0-60 time challenge!

For those that complain about the auto-start-stop, you can disable it. It's easy: after starting the car, just press a button by the shifter

@charlesjungclaus

2 жыл бұрын

@DOGS LOL no, not every time. Just each time you start the car. Or keep the a/c on and it will disable it automatically

@Lazirus951

2 жыл бұрын

It's really annoying to have to hit the button every time you start the car. Thankfully there are some aftermarket kits that permanently disable the idle-stop "feature" so the user doesn't have to hit the button every time they start the vehicle.

really want to see a automatic trans review of this car

Begging like you stole it " u should trade mark that line !!!!! Lol

So trying to buy the exact car in the video - all of my local dealers say none available from Honda for months. Sort of frustrating as Honda always quotes "take rate" when killing manual trans etc - but it seems they are not giving us a chance to "take" the manual.

Hi do you find the screen on the dash distracting? It seems tall.

I just saw one here in canada. For some reason it does have heated steering wheel

Average new car price being $47000 is quite a shock!

the good thing is that we have in Europe the nicer one with A/C vents and USB`s in the second row but the bad thing is no Turbo engine only one Hybrid with 180 HP and we must wait 6 more months for the car.

@Blank00

2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, some of us Americans hope that the e:hev hatch cones to the US. The hybrid doesn't have oil dilution and even though I have faith Honda's CVT, the I-mmd mechanism is just even better.

This or GTI? I would lean toward the Civic as I love Honda, but still might be a tough choice.

Man I’ve been wanting a sporty civic so bad but I want an automatic transmission.

Yeah, but the Accord does not come with a heated steering wheel, only available as a dealer installed accessory

Was wondering if you’d do a review on the sport touring with a 6spd 🙌🏽!

@Shakeem

2 жыл бұрын

This one is the 6 speed ?

@JordanMartinez-xu4kt

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually his second video on the 6spd sport touring

Review the KIA Forte GT-5 please

C/D got a 7.3 0-60. You got a 7.4 which is very good Considering they use a more comprehensive testing process.

@eloneatmyshorts

2 жыл бұрын

Did C/D use the 1ft roll-out method though?

@icculus

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloneatmyshorts According to the test sheet, that number omits the rollout.

For the money, it's worth it.

Just here waiting for the new Type-R...

@bigdadjorel7151

2 жыл бұрын

Type R 2 door

Does the third button on the key fob actually open the hatch or does it still just unlock the hatch?

@stevehrocks

2 жыл бұрын

Unlocks.

Man I been wanting a little hatch like this the Corolla or the VW for some weird reason. I never really been into them but I guess with 3 kids the trunk space kinda justifies it a bit.

@steve8803

Жыл бұрын

A sedan will have more trunk space with the seats up. The utility on the hatch is only superior with the seats folded down, which isn't going to happen with kids sitting back there!

After owning Hondas since 1991 I traded my 2018 Civic EX hatch for 2022 Kia K5 GT line. Kia offers so much more than Honda Accord for the money especially AWD. I never liked the CVT trans, an Accord with the 10 spd was a lot more than my K5 with the 8 spd. Always love your reviews.

@grisa12345

2 жыл бұрын

If you don’t care about a manual transmission, then yes you’re right. Kia offers more content for the money.

One thing I hate is the turn signal handle because it integrates the light control . In a wrx the signal is the same and it happened to shut of your lights when signaling to overtake …

@davidlake611

11 ай бұрын

I have been driving cars with the light control on the turn signal stalk for over 7 years and that hasn't happened a single time.

Is the integra worth 7k more? I least I can find those in stock.

Good luck trying to find one of these at your local dealership

camry is 202hp 39mpg hwy and is heavier than civic...so the camry engine is more efficient?

If you're going to buy a Honda, and can afford it, the one to get is the 2.0T Accord. If you can't afford the Accord, this would be a suitable substitute.

what why did the glove box fall like that? in my civic it’s dampened.

Nice car but I think my 2020 Civic Si coupe with 205hp and 6 speed manual is the best civic ever! Honda bring the coupe back with more and not less horsepower please! Mine cost 24k brand new in 2020! I have gotten 45 mpg hwy and 30 city!

I didn’t really like this when I first saw it but it’s growing on me lol

@knowsguy

2 жыл бұрын

Hondas have been like that for me since the late eighties.

I've read many complaints regarding interior road noise? Has anyone experianced this problem? I'll be waiting till 2023 the the Civic Hatchback.

I can’t get my hands on either to drive so I am asking all my favorite reviewers. I have deposits on a Civic Hatch Touring and a KIA K5 GT line. Same price. I know the Kia is a different class but which would YOU buy? I just need an efficient decent looking family hauler.

Roofline could of be lower and made the model look less chunky by following tighter to the chrome window surround instead. Tightening the tailights giving it that sleek look .

@p00lking

2 жыл бұрын

They have the sedan for that. I really like this design

@charlesjungclaus

2 жыл бұрын

You really dont want a lower roofline if you have any passengers

They just unveiled the hybrid hatchback in Europe which has the accord hybrid power train it may come here

I am trying to order a 23 Sport Touring hatch. Thanks for saying it’s 80% Si since the only thing that made me choose this is the hatchback. Any concerns with the 1.5 Turbo oil dilution issue I’ve read about?

@PapaShubz

Жыл бұрын

Honda fixed the oil dilution problem in ‘19

@rtroiani

Жыл бұрын

@@PapaShubz thanks. I ended up getting one and have had zero issues so far. Great car.

@PapaShubz

Жыл бұрын

@@rtroiani had an 18 touring with cvt, no issues, just gotta change the cvt fluid when the car tells you! Currently waiting for my ‘23 ST cvt to come in

I kind of like this but I want the sportiness of the Si. I wish there was an Si with some nicer features too

There is wireless Carplay and Android Auto on the Civic now?

Why does Honda not have lumbar support and ventilated seats for the Touring trim? Seems like a miss for $30k when VW offers it on the Jetta sel plus seat memory. The new Civic looks great, but it's a miss on the creature comforts that add a lot to a daily drive.

Does one have the ability to disengage the auto start feature after starting the vehicle or is it always on?

@Blank00

2 жыл бұрын

After you start the car, just push a button by the shifter, easy! Disabling auto-start-top isn't some complicated Volkswagen-esque menu or something.

Love the Civic especially this design. But I’m still disappointed with how dirty they’re doing the American market when it comes to features for it in comparison to Canada, especially with the Si. Hopefully that will change for the next year.

@kevinnorris6558

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it will change much but at the very least, they should add front heated seats, fog lights, the digital dash with shift lights, and dual zone climate control to the American Si. At least give us the features that we had in the last generation Si.

@ShodakonFury

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinnorris6558 well, my fingers are still crossed. But I agree as this year feels like a downgrade in comparison to the last generation and is EXTREMELY bare bones compared to the Canadian spec. I see plenty of previous gen Civic Si’s, hatches, and, sedans on the road, but have only seen two new gen Civics in total. While I feel that it’s because of dealership markups (since it is a horrible time to get a vehicle), I feel that the lack of features play a big role because there are other makes that offer similar performance for a similar price at similar trim levels, but have waaaay more in terms of accessories. This is especially true with new Hyundai Elantras, Toyota Corollas, and Mazda3 Hatchbacks that I see a ton of on the roads

@user-bj1sh1ib2x

2 жыл бұрын

I can't agree more; Honda sells much better looking and better features cars in other markets.

How are these engines holding up?