The ZR2 is what the trail boss should’ve been. And the ZR2 shoulda taken that and improved on it by adding 35’s, wide body, and adding a supercharged V8.

@mannyman4103

2 жыл бұрын

THIS!!!!

@FChen17213

2 жыл бұрын

They could have used a C7 ZR1 engine and tuned it for a truck. Then it’d be a TRX competitor. Plus wide body and 35s.

@cameronstanley2533

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they can offer a crate engine? Maybe a LS?

@Schlum99

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, but Chevy took too long and now it will never happen with these high gas prices and increase regulations.

@squid_fish

2 жыл бұрын

Aftermarket will take care of all that real quick. I agree ☝🏼

Calling it the "flow tie" is the most innovative thing Chevy has come up with in years.

@gabakusa

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@rickc303

2 жыл бұрын

Way to copy the Abarth 500

@bonzobonanza

2 жыл бұрын

One of the coolest names, as well.

@Jthomsonhate7

2 жыл бұрын

@@bonzobonanza That's what I was alluding to... Lol

@Conker999

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickc303 they've been using it since 2014 on the Z/28

Fun fact: Chevy's build partner on this vehicle, Multimatic, is an extremely impressive company and built the RUF CTR3, the Ford GT, the Aston Martin One 77 and the Aston Martin Valkyrie.

@egold2071

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: The last vehicle one would ever associate with a RUF, Aston Velk'ry n'em is this GM badge n' sticker Silverado ½ Ton job. 🤌

@stevemilley8903

2 жыл бұрын

And it's Canadian to eh!

@Eric_In_SF

2 жыл бұрын

Well yeah they also designed a bunch of European and Asian sedans and hatchbacks

@mattuw82

2 жыл бұрын

@@Eric_In_SF I didn't know that! Which ones?

as unfortunate as it is, general motors knows exactly what they did when building this truck. this truck isn’t meant to steal buyers away from the raptor and trx. it’s built entirely for one market, the chevy dude who refuses to switch brands. this truck didn’t costs gm anything to design, it’s all just recycled. meant for a single buyer, not meant to be a truck worth buying

@mini2nut67

2 жыл бұрын

This truck will sell in the Midwest and the south for one reason. The 6.2l V8 drivetrain. Too bad it’s $10k overpriced.

@bigcwastaken2112

2 жыл бұрын

And that would be me if I could afford it lol

@GAI3E_

2 жыл бұрын

ur scary how right u are sound >.

@shabberplasm32

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, they KNOW they are still competing just because its a competitor by default. The "Chevy dude who refuses to switch brands" idea is going to just make this truck fail in comparison. Its price is literally on par with the other off-roader trucks too.

@jamesgizasson

2 жыл бұрын

It's kinda sad, but I'd bet you're right. My neighbor once said, "I'd rather push a Chevy than drive a Ford." I feel like a lot of vehicles offered today (regardless of brand) are like filler songs in an album. You buy it because you like one thing about it, but there aren't a whole lot of other options that give you everything you actually love. T^T

One quirk / feature I’d love to see is what the interiors look like at night - ambient lighting, etc. I drive a lot in the dark and it’s nice to have some interior soft lighting.

@Scratch-athon

2 жыл бұрын

Buy a Mercedes then. This truck is ass

@RA-ui8yw

2 жыл бұрын

Yea the ambient lighting is sick on some vehicles. Hope he sees this comment

@CortMarshal

2 жыл бұрын

If you drive in the dark, you know that every interior light is just hurting your eyes ability to adjust and ruining your visibility. Only place ambient lighting makes sense is in marketing pictures

@9.5.9.5

2 жыл бұрын

@@CortMarshal Try a car that has ambient lighting before making assumptions.

@foxxygearreviews7754

2 жыл бұрын

@@CortMarshal no it’s pretty handy. Helps you find change for tolls, cup holders, etc. I also like to know what the instrument cluster and map function looks like at night.

As part of a multi generation Chevy truck family, being a Chevy fan is like cheering for the sports team that always looses. You think Chevy would learn from the Blazer. Why would Chevy think this is going to compete with the Raptor or TRX? Less power, smaller tires, and looks about like a regular Silverado.

@daniels2761

2 жыл бұрын

Long past time to jump ship hombre. GM is a sinking ship for anyone who actually likes vehicles.

@slowery43

2 жыл бұрын

I would never think GM would learn, there's no incentive as ong as they get tax payers cash from bailouts by leveraging their lobby group power

@rickthomas422

2 жыл бұрын

@@daniels2761 GM makes the product with the highest Doug score at the end of this video...

@matthewgrear3260

2 жыл бұрын

I sure hope they come out with one with a supercharged v8. Still love my lt trailboss

@kadeemtyson

2 жыл бұрын

So they couldn’t at least get the hp the zl1 has? I’m confused

It really sucks being a GM guy right now, GM is totally abandoning enthusiasts (a market they've been known for since inception). The electric stuff is nice, but no one can afford it or really wants it. Camaro is a great platform, has wonderful driving dynamics and actually, a well-speced one has a nice interior (better if not on par with Mustang which no one realizes because all you see are 1LT 2.0T cars). No one would know that though because they are do busy marketing the boring XT5 (which has 0 style and is not even close to a GLE or comparable German car). Don't even get me started on why the Traverse even still exists. Blazer should have been a Bronco, current Blazer should have been an equinox. The only GMs knocking it out of the park are C8 and full size SUVs ie. Escalade, Escalade V, Yukon, and Tahoe.The current Silverado update should have come out in 2019 when they got a redesign instead, we got a half assed interior that was both simultaneously uglier and lower quality than the previous one. 3 generation family and frankly none of their new products are resonating with me, suppose all the development money got dumped into Ultium.

@JesusJoseTaco

2 жыл бұрын

It’s sucked being a gm guy since the mid 70s. Sure, the 3.8 and ls series had a good rn. But at least the new z06 is coming out. All you’ll have to do is pay 50% over whatever msrp is

@threatlevel_TACO

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much nailed it. I've owned three different generation Silverados, but lost all interest after 2019. Went to Ford and I honestly don't see myself going back. I feel that Ford listens to thier customers (mostly), and is innovative enough to take risks. Chevy gets uglier every year and late with innovative products.

@timdually5843

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that did that with the previous generation Silverado front end too

@CirocObama.94

Жыл бұрын

Even though the marrow has said that the interior was a step up from the last generations and that's one of the main reasons the Tahoe and Suburbans have been praised Other than that you're right as hell

@dirtystockcardriver

Жыл бұрын

I feel your pain, especially with the blazer! That could've been so much cooler with not much effort

Here in Southern Wisconsin, brand loyalty still means a lot. There will be plenty of Chevy lovers in this area, and in the Midwest in general, who will plop down the bucks for the muscular ZR2.

@jaake_

2 жыл бұрын

My GMC was built in southern Wisconsin. I bet that GM plant meant a lot to the community back in the day.

@MrPedro4president11

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaake_ thank you for sharing!

Chevy has just been missing the target lately... Little to no attention for the Camaro, a lackluster Blazer return, and the new Silverado ZR2. The LT4 is the perfect engine for this application, but apparently not.

@daniels2761

2 жыл бұрын

If by lately, you mean for over a decade, yeah.

@meesterbingbong5641

2 жыл бұрын

I had an 2013 chevy and it was a piece of shit. Literally had non stop mechanical issues from the dealer. I think Chevy is just being completely over looked by Cadillac and that essentially means you get half assed vehicles like this

@raf8474

2 жыл бұрын

@@conor7154 lol

@DrivingGod21

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get me started on the Blazer and Trailblazer.

@gothops154

2 жыл бұрын

This is a solid take tbh

Wow It looks like… Any other Silverado with black rims and big tires and bigger price tag.

@ebikeslapunta9294

2 жыл бұрын

It's got a front locker babyyy

I like the look and the capabilities as a daily hauler than the Raptor or TRX. That'd be why I'd buy this truck.

It’s amazing because even the TRD Pro Tundra has more power with the iForce Max. I’d go for that in a heartbeat

The only way Chevy can be okay with producing this, is shooting for more of a Pro-4X / TRD Pro type customer and not a Raptor/TRX customer.

@splewy

2 жыл бұрын

A Pro-4x Titan and TRD Pro both cost around $10k less than this though. Like Doug said, this thing is priced closer to the Raptor and TRX, but features wise competes a class down from that. The price on the ZR-2 is baffling.

@therobertlast

2 жыл бұрын

Thing is chevy blends a lot more with the latter. People buying Tacomas or Tundras aren’t considering chevys

@GaryKetchum808

2 жыл бұрын

@@splewy funny, it’s priced closer to the TRX and the Raptor, yet I’d still go with a Pro4X or a TRD over this.

@sylvainbougie7269

2 жыл бұрын

Very apt comment

@ja2846

2 жыл бұрын

F150 tremor

12 years later and this is the best Chevy can do, what a letdown. Doug is completely right about GM being asleep at the wheel.

@sir_booty_cakes

2 жыл бұрын

Truth, Chevy just keeps missing especially the blazer and trailblazer

@EnthusiastsGarage

2 жыл бұрын

@@sir_booty_cakes so true

@FacuGonz3

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's insane how GM doesn't have anything against the F150 Raptor and RAM TRX.

@nerdnec

2 жыл бұрын

@@FacuGonz3 the rapter and trx are toys

@nathanmcdonald610

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly feel like GM has just given up. Their trucks haven't been competitive with the Ford F-Series for over a decade now and even Ram with their most recent redesign in 2019 really stepped up their game and make GM's trucks look like a joke by comparison. Its strange to watch a company as big as GM just not really try with their bread and butter product.

I’d buy the ZR2 for its electronic locking front and rear axles over any of the other features. Off Roading lockers are a game changer.

@benjaminfarr2586

2 жыл бұрын

This is why i think i will order one of these. No other truck does this at 70K. The only Raptor I could find near me was 78K + 10K over sticker. A Raptor is not worth $88,000

If this truck had a wide body, another 2 inches of lift, 35’s, and an optional supercharged v8 with about 150 - 200HP more than the 6.2, it would be amazing!

@portugeseking7959

2 жыл бұрын

You can do all those things yourself. You can also have pax power build you one.

@bigcwastaken2112

2 жыл бұрын

@@portugeseking7959 exactly

@bigdavedayday1581

2 жыл бұрын

V8 Twin turbo 1000+ HP should be the option

@nickolascunningham8039

2 жыл бұрын

@@portugeseking7959 but if it was going to compete from the factory it needs some upgrades

They could do a ZR2 SS with a supercharged V8 with 650hp from the Camaro ZL1

@evilcam

2 жыл бұрын

If this truck sells well, I would not be surprised if the windfall money is reinvested in making something like what you're suggesting here. It would be the baha trophy truck that would effectively be a decent raptor and TRX fighter.

@nathanmcdonald610

2 жыл бұрын

As long its priced competitively with the upcoming Raptor R and the Ram TRX then it could potentially make some sales.

@americansmark

2 жыл бұрын

They could but won't. They planned on the LT4, but canceled it. The CEO Mary Moron doesn't like trucks

@bradleymeyer9775

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanmcdonald610 it should be pieced in between. More than a Raptor, less than a TRX. If they make a ZR2 SS with a supercharged 6.2 V8, making 600-650hp, it should be right in the middle.

@nathanmcdonald610

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradleymeyer9775 That probably won't happen though, lets be real, they are asking Raptor and TRX prices for the standard ZR2. If they put significantly improved powerplant in it they aren't going to sell it for the same price as the standard ZR2.

0:01 intro 1:24 overview 1:58 exterior 9:40 engine 12:27 interior 16:47 back seat 17:45 boot 19:19 driving 23:49 conclusion

@hemanthkumar-xq3vd

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate mate.,👍🏻

@yagfiemhsoohw9395

2 жыл бұрын

@@hemanthkumar-xq3vd he hasn't even finished yet lol

@ZPositive

2 жыл бұрын

You're the hero we need, sir!

@welshrarebit9238

2 жыл бұрын

Can’t you find better time to spend on your hand like…..!

@MartinJones123

2 жыл бұрын

@Best 🅥 No...

Got mine ordered! Can’t wait 💪🏻

Mr Doug. I love your videos. Truly, I do. I’ve watched you for years. But I just watched 6 ads within the first 4 minutes of this video. Hope that extra cheddar is going straight to you. No worries though. Thanks for all you and Noodle do for us!

Just remember, every trim level of 4x4 Ram 1500 has the same size tires as Chevy's "offroader." But it doesn't matter, these will sell like nuts because Full Size Truck people are insanely loyal to their brand, 90% of people who will buy this truck don't care how it compares to a raptor, they just care that it is a Chevy "offroad" truck.

@hecticphusion

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, the standard 18in wheel on Ram 1500's is a 32" tire. The 33's that they offer are only 33" because the wheels are 20"+ ...they are not good for offroading.

@catinthehat5140

2 жыл бұрын

@@hecticphusion are most people offroading? Bigger trucks are for street presence

@CurtisL8.3066

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I’m a Chevy guy and I kinda want one. I can only imagine how good it looks in black.

@tytheguy4923

2 жыл бұрын

Just because it doesn't have fucking 50,000,000,000,000 horsepower and a widebody doesn't mean it's not an off-roader. You're completely disillusioned.

@jwanta79

2 жыл бұрын

@@tytheguy4923 oh look, an out of touch chevy guy who is proving my point

The price is going to kill this truck. Having a front locker is amazing and its the only full size truck that has one. If the price was about 10k less like Doug said this truck could have some serious overland potential, especially if AEV gets involved like they did on the Colorado ZR2 Bison.

@nathanmcdonald610

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the Ram Power Wagon also come with front and rear lockers to though? And I do agree that the price will be the demise of this truck. Its a 2/3rds Raptor at full Raptor price. People that are going to spend 70K - 90K on a lifestyle pickup will likely just get the Raptor or the TRX. I think the majority of this trucks sales will just go to the few die hard GM people that won't drive anything except a GM product but want something kind of close to a Raptor from the factory.

@hoffj5333

2 жыл бұрын

@UCdOTEyno61n9ygC65xj5n6g It does, when I say "full size" I am referring to 1500's.

@kakashi99908

2 жыл бұрын

Buy it used then, it wont hold value as good as the raptor

@BlackPointt

2 жыл бұрын

well considering that raptors will go over the sticker price due their high demand and the ZR2 probably under if sales are poor then it can quickly become a 10k difference and it will become much more tempting specialy for thoose v8 fans

@cgunugc

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackPointt The fact that the truck isn't desirable at msrp is its only real selling point?

You mention the wide body look not being as cool, but I love the sleeker look and slight convenience you gain from the more standard shaped truck. Low profile but super capable, super cool!

I was honestly surprised the stock exhaust has such a nice V8 sound. Basically all Silverado/Sierra/Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon exhausts with this engine sound like vacuum cleaners from factory. Definitely better than the raptor in that sense.

I find it somewhat amusing to see Doug reviewing cars that there is absolutely no way anyone will be able to actually get in 2022.

@TheRealHungryJoe

2 жыл бұрын

I have a buddy who owns one in Texas edition 3500 HD.. shy short from 100K.. he’s a GC tho..

@davidward6327

2 жыл бұрын

Tech tubers and graphics cards are the same thing, but they are slowly coming in!

@x-90

2 жыл бұрын

Well than why review the Ferrari Enzo? The F40? The Chiron? 99.99999999999999999% of people will never enter one of those and own it. So, why review it?

@stevemonkey6666

2 жыл бұрын

@@x-90 I didn't say don't review the car. I just find it amusing....

@robertjebediahfreeman

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealHungryJoe Whats a GC?

that tailgate impressive with the folding capabilities.. the handicap assist handle is also very innovative for assisting with climbing on and off the bed.. neat idea.

@aksnowrida

2 жыл бұрын

Until you realize you can't use the step if you have a trailer hitch, because it would bang into the hitch and leave a big dent in your tailgate. Only General Motors...

@peoplesambassadordm8279

2 жыл бұрын

@@aksnowrida well ur opinion... But if there is a trailer mounted on the hitch it's basic common sense to not do what u say regarding the gate...

@aksnowrida

2 жыл бұрын

@@peoplesambassadordm8279 No, I'm not talking about having a trailer hooked up. Just the hitch. If you own a truck to use it as a truck chances are you leave your ball hitch in full time. The step drops down so close to the hitch that you literally can't use it with a hitch in place.

@peoplesambassadordm8279

2 жыл бұрын

@@aksnowrida ✔️💪💯👌👌

@dirtrider88

2 жыл бұрын

@@aksnowrida if you give a shit about your truck you dont leave your ball MOUNT (not hitch) in

If living near the GM Assembly Plant showed me anything it's that this truck probably sat in a muddy field next to a bunch of other ones for months on end with no chips. Funny how GM will charge a absolute premium for vehicles that to them are perfectly fine being shoved in a cornfield straight from the factory and after months of sitting in they finally get to a dealer, just to get marked up 5-10k anyway lmao

At that price point, I want the long travel suspension and wide bodywork that the Raptor has, even the base TRX is starting at around $75,000, and like the Raptor comes with the "Super Truck" Baja type hardware. This truck is just a warmed over Trail Boss. The reason why it's so expensive is that the Trail Boss has been priced so high and there was no way they could lower the price too much on this ZR2.

If Chevy was serious they would loose the rear leaf springs and go with a linked system like Ford and Ram.

@yuzeyang8847

2 жыл бұрын

Leaf spring is not always bad to be honest

@ravenouself4181

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuzeyang8847 Yes, leaf springs are good for off-road. But let's be real, 99% of owners will never take their truck off-road.

@catinthehat5140

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, most people use trucks as daily drivers, not offeoad

@yuzeyang8847

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know what's your point, people buy zr2 for the off-road capability

@RoyalLineageLLC

2 жыл бұрын

They’re not forcing nobody to buy the truck go get whatever you like then

I’ve always thought every Silverado has such small wheels compared to the side of the car, and I can never look past it

@catinthehat5140

2 жыл бұрын

Bigger wheels don't often mean better , the tires are more expensive, the wheels are more expensive , also offroad tires wear out fast on the road where, to be honest , most people will use this truck

@drunkpolack7612

2 жыл бұрын

Cause of the shit fender design, these trucks even with 3 inch lifts can’t fit 35s without serious cutting

@GBLyrics

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkpolack7612 it’s like having big muscles but size 5 feet

@1mlb704

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's because the grille is so massive and the bed is tall. These do look disproportionate with the wheels and tires

@playsinmud

2 жыл бұрын

This truck definitely appears to have skipped leg day, on more than one occasion...😆😆😆

What I took away from this - the refreshed GMC sierra and Chevy Silverado are nice trucks, at the right trim level and price

I actually saw one of these on the road today and I was actually curious why someone would buy it. I agree when you say the Raptor, over the past 10 years has made a name for itself. When you think of an off road pickup, you think Raptor, not even TRX (not yet at least) I just don’t understand why GM seems so hesitant to build a strong Raptor competitor, or an off road vehicle in general, honestly. They’ve missed the mark several times with the Silverado, they really missed it with the Blazer and Trail Blazer. That demand clearly exists, they’re just scared to get on board.

@ShockSurplus

2 жыл бұрын

the epitome of corporate slow moving mindset

9:25 One of the coolest, early luxury trucks, staring Doug down from behind lol

@the_random9718

2 жыл бұрын

Finally I found a comment mentioning the Mark LT in the background

@jjlegend3922

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_random9718Looks like a really nice example too. I'd love to own one of rarer models with the 6.5Ft bed.

@drippgxd

2 жыл бұрын

Lol it’s a rebadged F150 lariat or whatever. Those Lincoln pickups were very rare. You definitely heard of the Blackwood don’t you?

@Vin80_

2 жыл бұрын

My grandma still has a Mark LT, which is surprising since one time she literally drove it home on 3 wheels from an accident.

@jgonzalejg87

2 жыл бұрын

I hope Doug has a chance to review one someday. Although it might be a straight roast fest.

This’ll be a great used truck in 5 years if it depreciates much more than the raptor

@starlightwolves1525

2 жыл бұрын

Except Chevy owners don’t think chevy’s depreciate. Just look at Craigslist… they’re still asking 15-20k for 10 year old Colorado’s with 200k+ on the odometer. I just laugh and type in Nissan Frontier.

I love the grow!!! This thing is badass!!!!

I couldn't think of a single reason to buy this over my LT Trail Boss, that I purchased for 47k in 2020. 70k is completely insane.

@rss9944

2 жыл бұрын

Interior

Chevy should come out with a Silverado Triceratops piercing the raptor and TRX 😅

@christopherballenger-brook4027

2 жыл бұрын

That's hilarious, agreed!!!

@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785

2 жыл бұрын

LoL, that would probably help sell it. Plus I always was a Triceratops kid anyhow.

@jonlosito2004

2 жыл бұрын

But it only eats plants 🌱

@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonlosito2004 yes, the Triceratops only eats plants...but it will stab anything with it's horns, well then it should be an E85 fueled truck, LMFAO!

So Doug is going to review the Mercury Marauder... But can he also review the military Marauder that Richard Hammond reviewed on Top Gear? 😁

@nymfan1990

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like Cleetus' old Marauder

@bwofficial1776

2 жыл бұрын

I could have sworn he reviewed one years ago. Maybe it was pre-Dougscore.

Oh wow. That Marauder. Nice! After your Town Car review I was wondering if (or when) you were gonna get another Panther in there, and boy howdy am I glad you found a clean one to film!

Trail Boss is a cool and unique name. They should have introduced the ZR2 to replace the trail boss, and overhauled the trail Boss to be a more serious raptor competitor

Everytime I hear or see how gm misses the bar with new releases, it makes me feel like they aren't interested in the ice vehicle market. The fact that their combustion vehicles have, in general, been very tone deaf recently really solidifies to me how much effort they are putting into the electric market. Now they just need to show us what they've been doing for the last 10 years. Edit: I see you guys commenting that the hummer and silverado evs are underwhelming. Just because you don't like what they are doing, doesn't mean they aren't putting in effort there. My point is that, they have obviously shifted from investing in ice vehicles to focus on EVs

@jamesengland7461

2 жыл бұрын

effort into EVs? They're failing there too.

@nathanmcdonald610

2 жыл бұрын

The Hummer EV is kind of cool, not going to lie and I say this is a die hard Ford man. But I was wholly unimpressed with the Silverado EV they debuted, it looks like an oversized Honda Ridgeline with Chevy badges.

@catinthehat5140

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesengland7461 hummer ev and ford lightning.

@TheCapn23

2 жыл бұрын

But Ford is beating them to the punch in EVs tho. The F-150 Lightning will be on the road soon but the Silverado EV is at least 1-2 years out.

@drippgxd

2 жыл бұрын

I mean they have the corvette and that’s the only good car they have. Idk why people never heard of the corvette. The C8 Z06 is already a masterpiece if you tell me

It’s basically a trail boss with the 6.2 in it and a 70k price tag

@damilolaakanni

2 жыл бұрын

You could get a trail boss with the 6.2 until recently though.

@HEAVYCHEVY409

2 жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni facts

@voyager11221

2 жыл бұрын

The upgraded suspension is a huge difference maker as well. More important than the engine IMO.

@wint_62

2 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely different, chief.

@user-yq6ov6ow7l

2 жыл бұрын

Not even close. This is basically the same upgrades the raptor gets over the f150. The trail boss is a cosmetic package. Suspension and the front locker are the major upgrades. Zr2 = legit

I love a heads up display that displays very much information

New sub here and I’ve watched so many repetitive reviews on the zr2, but yours is by far the most “normal” non boot licking and down to earth review I’ve seen so far.

Definitely a shame, Chevy took a loss in the off road suv segment with the Blazer not competing against the the Jeep or Bronco and again here in this segment losing to the Raptor and TRX.

@drippgxd

2 жыл бұрын

I mean their sports cars are good. I love the corvette but tbh Camaro isn’t good at all. Mustangs way better for days

@garymendoza6947

2 жыл бұрын

@@drippgxd yeah I give them credit for the corvette and camaro but both Ford and Chrysler have excelled their too with the Mustang and Challenger/Charger, so Chevy is leaving money on the table by not competing to their fullest potential

@brenden_wilson

2 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head, Chevy needs a turnaround, the only cars they excel in are the new Corvette and the Tahoe, Yukon, Escalade Family in my opinion… although their regular trucks are getting better, especially with the latest update, but come on GM we need a REAL raptor competitor! Then an update to the Camero, and the a real off-roader like a Jeep Wrangler… then I could be proud of my brand…

@jonlosito2004

2 жыл бұрын

It even loses to the newer Tundra TRD Pro cuz the Tundra has much better features that are functional than this

What are the odds they come out with an actual competitor to Ram and Raptor. Call it the ZR2-SS. That would make too much sense. They’ll never do it.

@jwanta79

2 жыл бұрын

They don't need to, they'll have a waiting list for these just because of brand loyalty, and every Chevy bro will argue with anyone who will give them the time of day that it is better than a Raptor or TRX

@TheCapn23

2 жыл бұрын

And they're so late. People who want a truck like that are probably happy with their TRX/Raptor

@davidtaylor5811

2 жыл бұрын

They would need more than an engine upgrade. This truck isn't in the same class as the Raptor or TRX.

@jwanta79

2 жыл бұрын

@Dimetri777 I'm not saying they wouldn't, but at least they have a leg to stand on. This thing is a joke compared to a Raptor or TRX

The views after a day show peoples interest in this truck...Chevy needs to step it up. Great video Doug!!!

I'm so happy Doug finally mentioned a ZR2 S10 in a video.

Glad to see a Mercury Marauder review coming soon.

@ryfipassword

2 жыл бұрын

What I thought

Hopefully they're making an actual raptor/TRX competitor with the supercharged 6.2 that's in the CT5-V/Escalade-V, with a wider body and more aggressive wheels and tires along with it, it would actually make a really cool truck

@americansmark

2 жыл бұрын

They aren't. Mary Barra killed it.

@jonlosito2004

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not gonna happen unfortunately.. they refuse

@TheTyisawesome

2 жыл бұрын

That was the idea. This is the result... Lol

@brenden_wilson

2 жыл бұрын

It would sell like hotcakes!!!

@MartinJones123

2 жыл бұрын

They do in Australia!

Looking forward to that marauder video. Own a grand Marquis myself and always wanted one

Funfact, the bumper endcap is not just for replacement, you can remove them when RockCrawling and that allows you to attack large rocks with your wheel instead of your bumper

People will definitely boost these trucks.

@T3CHK1NG54

2 жыл бұрын

Not a lot. They made the 6.2 extremely hard to program. The 6.2L in that truck has been in the Silverados and sierras since 2019 and hardly anyone has modded them.

@hyper8545

2 жыл бұрын

@@T3CHK1NG54 well sell the 6.2 and swap in a engine you can boost 😉

For that price tag I’m pretty sure I’d go for the Raptor instead, simply cause of the beefcake look. The ZR2 Silverado is neat but doesn’t exactly stand out from the rest of the Silverado pack. I’m curious if they corrected that lifter problem that was plaguing these GM engines.

@hamkurun2382

2 жыл бұрын

They did fix it for the 2021 and up models.

@AUSSIEGARAGE_YT

2 жыл бұрын

@@hamkurun2382 supposedly but my step mother's lifters went out on cylinder 6 in her 2021 trailboss.

@hamkurun2382

2 жыл бұрын

@@AUSSIEGARAGE_YT Hmm, maybe 2022's and up then haha.

@elpatito6069

Жыл бұрын

The Active Fuel Management(AFM) is an option on some models, the lifter issue is still there but have been updated, as a GM tech working at GMC and Chevrolet I haven’t really had and ZR2s come in other than maintenance and recalls for the DRL which is Just a BCM update which takes 15-20min to do

14:02 Not Doug using the word "Period" in his review. Yess Doug 😅😅😅😅 I really like the shifter of this truck. It looks cool 🔥🔥🔥

I'm a tundra dude, but the interior of this chevy beats any other manufacturers on the market. Beautifully designed!

I've been here less than a minute and I want less Silverado and more Marauder!

@truckernation7886

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah I’d rather have one

@HiHoSilverAwaaay

2 жыл бұрын

Marauder!!!! Yes please

@Southpaw-qc9gh

2 жыл бұрын

Nah

@alexklein455

2 жыл бұрын

You sound poor

Based on the specs (HP, torque, ground clearance, tires, etc.), this almost competes more with the F150 Tremor...except the Tremor starts at $20k less than the ZR2...

@benjaminfarr2586

2 жыл бұрын

Build a Tremor with all the options and it is around 68-70K. I'm having a hard time deciding between this and the Tremor and Ram Rebel which are all around 68-70 K loaded. The Chevy ZR2 is the only one that comes with a front locking diff

@turtletube

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminfarr2586 ford go ford that’s what I did I got the tremor

@benjaminfarr2586

2 жыл бұрын

@@turtletube I was going to order one until my dealership said it would be 6 months or more and maybe I'd have to wait for a 2023

@turtletube

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminfarr2586 I didn’t order mine they always have new trucks coming in search local inventory

@turtletube

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminfarr2586 l

Don't forget that cars and bids was also the first auction site entrusted to list a Rivian r1t anywhere in the nation. Take that bring a trailer!

You forgot about the Chevy Tracker ZR2. Also very excited for the Marauder review. Been waiting for years

I don’t think this was made to directly compete with the Raptor and TRX. This ZR2 stands as a middle ground. It has off-roading goodies yet can still be used for truck stuff. It maintains a payload of 1,500 lbs and can tow almost 9,000 lbs. The Raptor on the other hand only has a payload of 1,000 lbs and can tow only around 7,000 lbs. I feel the ZR2 is the all around better deal.

@youSupaflyy

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe, if it had middle ground price tag

@jaceserres461

2 жыл бұрын

@@youSupaflyy Some people might see this as a better deal than a raptor as it can do both work and off-roading. Just a different perspective.

Chevy made an off road truck for the city, which is what 80%-90% of Raptor and TRX drivers do, you see them clean on the freeways, targets and walmarts. The only downside is the price, should be $10000 less like Doug mentions

@americansmark

2 жыл бұрын

We keep them clean because we like our trucks to look good and last. Why would I want to sling mud and rocks off my truck on the highway? That's an idiotic take.

@catinthehat5140

2 жыл бұрын

They should come with performance street tires

@trent_mcneely7554

2 жыл бұрын

The only people who think these never go off-road are people who never go off-road themselves. There are a million idiots out there breaking their sh!t thinking their stock Raptor is a rock crawler.

The back door is impressive. Another wonder on 4 wheels parked at Publixs ;) Thanks for video.

My brother has a friend who is a avid fisherman and he had been pulling his bass boat with a Chevy with a 6.2. He needed a new truck and went with the Ford with the boosted V6 that had better power numbers than his Chevy had. The problem is that when he pulled his boat the Ford got between 5 to 10 mpg worse than the Chevy did and it seemed to struggle to pull his boat where the Chevy acted like it wasn't pulling anything. I think that this is where the boosted V6s are aren't going to match up to an old school V8.

I've always wanted Doug to review a Marauder.... super excited for the upcoming video.

I cant lie, I still love it. Being an automotive engineer, I still dont trust the ecoboost engines. Chevy V8s are tried and true (relatively) and it's much cheaper than the TRX.

@benvester3340

2 жыл бұрын

Lifter failure class action lawsuits want to speak to you

@QBDLettuce

2 жыл бұрын

@@benvester3340 Name me a car brand that has never had faults................. I'll wait...............

@1atm1

2 жыл бұрын

@@QBDLettuce I'll be waiting for those Toyota dudes to shout Toyota ten million times, and bring up their 4Runners' reliability and its four billion miles.

@benvester3340

2 жыл бұрын

@@QBDLettuce I'm not talking about every other car brand. Dude said Chevy V8 is tried and true...which is far from the truth now, that GM over complicated a once tried and true pushrod V8 to get 1 mpg better in a fictional EPA test that no one replicates in the real world.. So stupid of them.

I can't be the only one who wants a video on that Mitsuoka you showed in the cars and bids ad.

The intro has the best car of all time (in my opinion). Merc Marauder!!!!! YESSSS

If Chevy wanted to go against Raptor and TRX,the smart thing to do would have been to resurrect the AVALANCHE and put these features on it...plus the name sounds cooler.

Finally an interior from the 21st century. Pricing is whack though, lots of better options out there.

@turtletube

2 жыл бұрын

Name a better truck 🛻 with better features for similar price or cheaper

@13:02, loving the Lincoln Mark LT.

Doug, can you please give an extra 0.5s for your "THIS" opener? It's iconic, I love to hear it, and KZread often clips it when starting to play the video

For most actual offroading in narrower trails and not mall crawling, not having the wide body is an advantage (especially here in colorado). This truck is setup more for crawling / overlanding and not baja racing. At 70k, it is basically fully loaded where as the Raptor and TRX would be at least 10-30k more when equipped similarly. I just wish it had the diesel as an option.

@spacebound1969

2 жыл бұрын

Looking at the interiors they certainly feel 10k-30k away from Ford and Dodge. Glad the Chevy fan girls can finally have their trophy truck tho 😂

@JattAnmoli

2 жыл бұрын

@@spacebound1969 you mean the performance pages on the trx that take 30 seconds to load? Such quality, much wow.

@spacebound1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@JattAnmoli Certainly better than the Chevys engine at least, you'll be lucky to get 30 seconds of runtime out of that motor. 😂

@JattAnmoli

2 жыл бұрын

@@spacebound1969 your hemi comes with hemi tick 😂😂

@spacebound1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@JattAnmoli Funny you assume I own a Dodge product 😎

Doug is the type of guy who shows a score of 59 and calls it 60

Okay after watching his cars and bids ad standing in front of a crown vic...is Doug finally gonna review a crown vic??? I'm SO EXCITED

@bonzobonanza

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually a Mercury Marauder, not a Ford Crown Vic. I know it's a Marauder because of its distinctive wheels.

Great comparison

3:04 Chevy pun?

Love the truck content!

Oo Mercury Marauder review coming!!?! I love those things

I dunno..I kinda like it.Narrow is good, Offroad quirks are practical, 4 me switchin out for better tires(35s) is a given regardless of make(adding 2 inches clearance) . I like the idea of a extremely capable truck without all the hoopla. Perfect sleeper truck for growers & bootlaggers ;)

This truck appears to be a rival to the F150 Tremor and the Ram Warlock and Rebel... however with that pricetag, its a disappointment... I have a Ram Warlock that I am paying a total of $59xxx, fully loaded.. youd be silly to buy the Silverado

@Wark_91L

2 жыл бұрын

Well and really, they already had that competitor in the Trail Boss, it was there to compete with the Rebel and Tremor. This should be trying to compete with the Raptor and the TRX. Isn't the Warlock just the old RAM?

@TheTyisawesome

2 жыл бұрын

I'd take a F150 Tremor over this any day, especially considering the pricing haha. It seems the positioned as TRX/Raptor competitor but missed the mark

@warlock403

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wark_91L yea, it seems Chev have just done a Trail Boss Pt2.. The Warlock is a 4th gen Ram, with Rebel cosmetics and a similar off-road package to the Trail Boss... I chose Warlock because I prefer last gen ram design over this one

This trucks biggest disadvantage is the badge on the front of it.

@croaker4747

2 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Two Times Easy there buddy. Just a joke about Chevy sucking.

I love how people click some of his videos and He saying “this” and then keep saying it over the whole Time and when he uploads one

Been trying to get my order through for one for a month. Have a 6.2 trail boss now but I gotta have that glacier blue they came out with.

Still waiting for you to get your hands on the Cadillac lyric Doug

@jonlosito2004

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not on sale yet

Once again, GM completely misses the mark when it comes to off road vehicles

@bsg1372

2 жыл бұрын

GM has a habit of missing the mark on things, I wonder if it's the board and accounts interfering with engineering.

@vitaly6312

2 жыл бұрын

You mean vehicles

@davidperea1659

2 жыл бұрын

No this isn’t a raptor and TRX competitor. This is a tundra trd pro competitor. The hummer EV is the GM’s response to those trucks.

@acr4809

2 жыл бұрын

The Colorado Bison was good.

@isakjohansson7134

2 жыл бұрын

@@bsg1372 most likely

One major selling point for the ZR2 over the Raptor/TRX…. It’s a Dad-truck for dads that do more dadding than off-roading, or posing as non-dad off roaders. So I love you can use the GD thing as a practical freakin truck and go camping or whatever as well without worry. Being able to comfortably use the (full size) bed for mulch or bikes or appliances or whatever is really a huge selling point. Probably fits in most garages too; which is nice ;)

tailgate technology has come so far. 3 points of contact with a step to get in the back. what a time to be alive

Drinking game idea: Take a shot every time Doug says "rock crawling" on this truck that will never crawl over rocks.

@ridebc153

2 жыл бұрын

The truth is these “off-road” full sized pickup trucks really aren’t good off-road. They are just too big.

@TheCapn23

2 жыл бұрын

Gonna crawl over them curbs in the mall parking lot like a boss tho

@Nick-sx6jm

2 жыл бұрын

I never understood these full sized offroad trucks because they make so many compromises like towing and payload, MPG, handling on road, etc. When they are not really good at offroading and now are not nearly as good on road where they will be used most. I think they are more of a status symbol because you would be way better off saving 20-30k and buying a side by side and a trailer.

@QBDLettuce

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nick-sx6jm You got one thing right... you just don't understand. 😉👍

22:06. Thats the difference between a v8 and a v6. Raptor missed hugely by not offering v8 until the raptor r that will be 110k and probably 150k after markups.

@nathanmcdonald610

2 жыл бұрын

That's really the one and only area the ZR2 outshines the Raptor is that the ZR2 sounds better when you drive spiritedly, but the Raptors performance is still better across the board. I do wish Ford had offered the 5.0L Coyote V8 as an option in the regular Raptors. The Raptor R will likely cost a boatload more money just for its exotic engine alone but then you add dealer markups like they are doing these days and it'll cost as much as an entry level supercar.

@joelk9182

2 жыл бұрын

Ever drive a Raptor? let me know how you like it because the performance is insane.

@JattAnmoli

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelk9182 No doubt the raptor is much better truck. But this truck is intriguing because its like a gen 1 raptor but with a nice interior. I love gen 1s with 6.2s.

a ZR2 with a wider body and the 6.2L supercharged V8 would be a perfect TRX competitor

Welcome back to my algorithm Doug

Good review as always....But going forward you tell us everything in detail, Except audio quality..this has always been one of my most important buying decisions, since the end of DIY double DiN stereo upgrade..

@splewy

2 жыл бұрын

I would check out Savagegeese on KZread if this is important to you. He includes audio engineer reviews on the sounds systems of most of the vehicles he tests.

@dswallrich

2 жыл бұрын

@@splewy yes the geese are great...I just find it odd that Doug, goes into such great detail, but doesn't mention a feature so important to so many.

@splewy

2 жыл бұрын

@@dswallrich Yeah I feel like to give any meaningful review of an audio system, you have to go into professional measuring and technical detail like Savagegeese does. Just saying “it sounds good” is useless. Doug is definitely a casual reviewer though, not a technical one. His reviews are shallowly researched, he frequently gets technical details wrong and his “Doug scores” don’t actually make much sense. Of course that’s not necessarily bad. Doug’s stuff is still entertaining. But if you want more technical reviews, you’re gonna have to look elsewhere.

Dang, I love Chevy but they missed the opportunity to call it the "Chevy Silverado Meteor"

@americansmark

2 жыл бұрын

More like space turd.

@1atm1

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt Chevy is cool enough for that.

The reason this truck appealed to me is the front and rear locker. I just want nice truck thats comfortable on the highway that can slow roll up the steep muddy hill on my 100 acres and wont get stuck. Raptors around me are 90k where the zr2 is around 75K. Also i park a lot in the city and the raptor is wider. Im still undecided. Heck I would be perfectly happy with my 2018 rebel if it had lockers ...been stuck too many times.

13:02 you all know for a fact that Doug was drooling over that Lincoln Mark, and he probably went over and talked to the guy.

I havent finished the video yet. Does that mean the Trail Boss isn't a thing anymore?

@sir_booty_cakes

2 жыл бұрын

It is, just not top trim

I'm a Muslim, and we're in Ramadan; which is a month that we fast through the whole month. When i have my meal after my fasting, i love watching Doug's videos while eating.. I don't know why, but it's so heart warming everytime( I am not a car person though) 🙂❤️ Whisper: I don't have a car too.

@TzadikTheManic

2 жыл бұрын

There’s something really comforting about Doug’s videos. I consider myself a car guy but it’s more than that for me his uploads are a “coping skill”. Also he just seems like the nicest dude. -Peace be with you friend :)

Since Chevy didn’t follow in the footsteps of the TRX and Raptor R, I decided to build one. I purchased a 2022 6.2 RST and then upgraded the valve train with a more aggressive cam shaft and AFM/DOD delete. I also added a 3.0L whipple supercharger as well as performance headers and exhaust. I may not have the off-road capability but I feel no intimidation from a TRX. All said, I have put $15k in the truck falling much lower than the Raptor and TRX

The coolest thing about that multifunction tailgate is the Bluetooth stereo system that can be installed in it.