The 2004 Pitcairn Sexual Assault Trial

Unravel the dark secrets of Pitcairn Island in this gripping tale of mutiny, isolation, and justice. Explore the shocking events of the Mutiny on the Bounty and the harrowing Pitcairn Sexual Assault trial.
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  • @nowt2957
    @nowt29573 ай бұрын

    Without getting into cultural relativism isn't there just an ethical standard where consent means consent? it's not even an age thing - taking advantage of somebody is taking advantage. "it's legal" is a very pathetic excuse for abusing a child.

  • @jessifer23f

    @jessifer23f

    3 ай бұрын

    Try explaining that to the Republicans when the LGBTQ+ community were fighting to have the right to marry and they were being compared to beastiality. One has consent and other not.

  • @davidhughes4089

    @davidhughes4089

    3 ай бұрын

    Try explaining anything to Republicans 🙄 ​@@jessifer23f

  • @marlongonzalez6586

    @marlongonzalez6586

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jessifer23fhow about how they try get children to transition without their parents knowing.

  • @user-pm7fv9dt6j

    @user-pm7fv9dt6j

    3 ай бұрын

    Aisha was the favorite of Prophet Muhammad's wives. He married her when she was six to seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine lunar years. Muhammad is the ideal to be followed by all Muslim man. So your idea is islamophobic.

  • @user-pm7fv9dt6j

    @user-pm7fv9dt6j

    3 ай бұрын

    Aisha was the favorite of Muhammad's wives. He married her when she was six to seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine lunar years. Muhamad is the ideal to be followed by all Muslim man. So your idea is islamophobic.

  • @kobet7341
    @kobet73413 ай бұрын

    Moral relativism is not always applicable. Some things are just evil and barbaric. This is an example of that.

  • @jamesl1806

    @jamesl1806

    Ай бұрын

    Christian ethicists have pointed out the absurdity of secular humanism; we are descended from apes, therefore love one another.

  • @terrafirma5327
    @terrafirma53273 ай бұрын

    Abuse is abuse. Arguing its a cultural norm is a predator's argument... If you are actively harming someone, especially when its a coercive relationship, that is abuse. It isn't ambiguous, it isn't based on culture. Laws will vary between nations but abuse never changes. If a law says its okay and someone gets trauma from it, it was still abusive even if it was "legal".

  • @justinsmith4562

    @justinsmith4562

    2 ай бұрын

    Shut up you do gooder

  • @waynepolo6193

    @waynepolo6193

    2 ай бұрын

    Here’s the thing about the whole “culture” argument in regard to Pitcairn Island. The foundational, “native” population was made up of 8 English mutineers and 18 native Tahitians - 11 women and 7 men. In other words: that’s some bullshit. Edit: oh, and shortly thereafter, 5 of the mutineers and ALL of the native men were murdered. Another mutineer was killed in self-defense and then one more died of “drunkenness.” The last TWO men then proceeded to force the remaining NINE women and NINETEEN children to convert to Christianity with a bible that had been onboard the ship they BURNED AND SANK IN THE BAY. So, yeah… bullshit.

  • @mellie4174

    @mellie4174

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly. It was set up to be a sexually coercive system from the beginning. Like the perps just went and made a perp paradise. Then calked it culture. I can't roll my eyes with disgust hard enough!​@@waynepolo6193

  • @patrickday4206

    @patrickday4206

    Ай бұрын

    Well abuse is abuse unless it's from women 😂

  • @ellaeadig263
    @ellaeadig2633 ай бұрын

    This is...insanely dark. Thank you also for highlighting that this was not a once-off or an isolated incident, that this sort of thing is happening to millions of people still right now.

  • @ferretyluv

    @ferretyluv

    3 ай бұрын

    Nah, just a whataboutist excuse.

  • @js8971
    @js89713 ай бұрын

    If a child groes up and then has an adult relationship with their childhood abuser it does not excuse the paedophilia. A child can not consent. An adult with a history of being abused doesnt have robust boundary setting. Open to coersion, exploitation, normalisation of abuse. Its just wrong. Any unequal power dynamic is exploitative. Consent, boundary setting, expectation and esteem all need to be taught to our kids.

  • @hannahp1108

    @hannahp1108

    3 ай бұрын

    I literally just got done watching a video on Villi Falau and Mary Kay Letourneau. You are exactly correct.

  • @TwinBleaks

    @TwinBleaks

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@hannahp1108 Dreading? I watched it earlier today as well😅

  • @hannahp1108

    @hannahp1108

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TwinBleaksYup. That was a rough video to get through. A well done video, but Mary Kay Letourneau makes me want to puke

  • @aq5426

    @aq5426

    3 ай бұрын

    @@hannahp1108 I feel so bad for Villi Falau--the poor man's being victimized day after day. :(

  • @3goats1coat

    @3goats1coat

    3 ай бұрын

    Are you trying to imply that a citizen can never consent to the actions of the government, because of the inherent exploitative nature of the unequal power dynamic? 🤡 Before you grab your pitchforks, it's not my intention to defend what has happened there.. I'm only pointing out the obvious parallel here, Pitcairn being a small patriarchal community; and the fallacy of your moral double standard if you're not willing to apply the same harsh condemnation on a broader scale. What is a pat-down if not a government mandated indecent assault? Should a stranger have higher authority over your own children, than the parent? Especially in a community so small where the highest local authority is your nextdoor neighbor? If you wouldn't be comfortable with that, then how do you justify relinquishing that agency to a stranger, who doesn't even know you exist, in some faraway capital? If you wouldn't be comfortable with that, then under what authority were those men prosecuted? The deeper one goes into this rabbithole, the more obvious it is that free will and government are mutually exclusive on the long term and the ever increasing surveillance and erosion of privacy isn't something one can vote away. It's inherent in our political system. Now you may grab the said pitchforks. May some morsels of these thoughts echo in your heads in the years to come. 🍻

  • @skwervin1
    @skwervin13 ай бұрын

    Australian here - I remember this case. Around that time there was also a case of murder(?) on Norfolk Island which required the DNA testing of the entire island. Norfolk is where all of the original Pitcairn Islands moved to in the late 1800's(?) after they tried to close the island but a few years later, some decided to return to Pitcairn. Norfolk had not just remnants of the Bounty crew there but also had been the site of the WORST convict prison and some of the inmates had stayed after release. Basically, you were sent to Australia - if you continued to misbehave you were sent to Port Arthur, if you kept on to misbehaving - you were sent to Norfolk Island and it was a one way trip. I believe during WWII, a small airstrip was built on NOrfolk but everything still mainly comes in via sea. The situation between the two islands is that IIRC Norfolk is under the jurisdiction of Australia but Pitcairn is under UK rules.

  • @NurseRekka
    @NurseRekka2 ай бұрын

    The words “child bride” should be even illegal to say. The fuck.

  • @jamesbest9038
    @jamesbest90383 ай бұрын

    The entire original female population of the island was kidnapped from their native Island by the male mutineers.

  • @fainitesbarley2245

    @fainitesbarley2245

    Ай бұрын

    No they went voluntarily with men they’d formed relationships with when the crew stayed there for months. A number of men went too. Young people seeking adventure.

  • @thomasvarley380

    @thomasvarley380

    Ай бұрын

    They went voluntarily after been given the option by their tribal chief .

  • @timothyclark-sl4il
    @timothyclark-sl4il3 ай бұрын

    That's so nice of you to have not said the word INBRED even once.

  • @deannelson7027

    @deannelson7027

    3 ай бұрын

    The family tree is a circle.

  • @Anonymous-nw6fg

    @Anonymous-nw6fg

    3 ай бұрын

    Probably because it's implied. 🤷

  • @keithmoore5306

    @keithmoore5306

    3 ай бұрын

    the original genetic base was wide enough to avoid that problem!!!

  • @justanotherbob69

    @justanotherbob69

    3 ай бұрын

    I need a script on this topic for brainblaze and an inbred counter in the corner of the video

  • @sd-ch2cq

    @sd-ch2cq

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@keithmoore5306that's not how it works

  • @KawaiiKasai
    @KawaiiKasai2 ай бұрын

    You should always respect other people's cultures. Right up until that culture decides to make the systematic abuse of women and children an integral part of itself. No cultural norm gives anyone the right to violate another person's human rights.

  • @PH-jv4ik
    @PH-jv4ik3 ай бұрын

    Idc who may try and find any sort of justification, sleeping with a 12 year old as an adult is disgusting and should be punished legally willingly.

  • @jrmckim
    @jrmckim2 ай бұрын

    This reminds me of the bride burning in India. When a man died his wife was placed (alive) on his funeral pyre. When the British saw this, they fought to have it stopped and outlawed. Many of the Indians (mostly men) said it was their religious right and part of the culture. It still happens in India tho mostly in rural areas.

  • @craigquann

    @craigquann

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup. Then the British showed the cultural "gallows"... they don't burn their wives anymore, at least not as widespread as it used to be

  • @meargon9186

    @meargon9186

    Ай бұрын

    No it doesn't happen now. Stupid

  • @capio78
    @capio782 ай бұрын

    It's a fascinating case of isolation and highlights the reality of male dominance without rules and customs.

  • @marvinhaagsma9177

    @marvinhaagsma9177

    2 ай бұрын

    just like the Amish

  • @dmp3418
    @dmp34182 ай бұрын

    I visited Pitcairn in 1997. I met a number of these folks. Crazy.

  • @marvindebot3264

    @marvindebot3264

    Ай бұрын

    Likewise but a few years after you, Pitcairn is, ah, different, huh?

  • @grimtea1715
    @grimtea17153 ай бұрын

    Them: "It'S oUr CuLtUrE!" Me: The Culture is dogshit

  • @benallen7704

    @benallen7704

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @drgunnwilliams8239

    @drgunnwilliams8239

    3 ай бұрын

    Me: your judgement of others is shit of all kinds 💩

  • @universal5313

    @universal5313

    2 ай бұрын

    it's backwards and disgusting. I feel so bad for all the women and children that were born there aginst their will

  • @dexterwestin3747

    @dexterwestin3747

    2 ай бұрын

    Too late, this is now a postmodern world where it is accepted that your morals are no more right (or wrong) than mine.

  • @vijo1353

    @vijo1353

    2 ай бұрын

    So they are savages cannibals etc and you are civilized ok

  • @--enyo--
    @--enyo--2 ай бұрын

    Bloody hell. I’d never ever heard of this. Thank you for sharing.

  • @waynepolo6193
    @waynepolo61932 ай бұрын

    Cultural relativism? The original “native” population was made up of 8 English mutineers and 18 native Tahitians - 11 women and 7 men. In other words: that’s some bullshit. 5 of the mutineers and ALL of the native men were then murdered due to jealousy and infighting. Another mutineer was killed in self-defense and then one more died of “drunkenness.” The last TWO men then proceeded to force the remaining NINE women and NINETEEN children to convert to Christianity with a bible that had been onboard the ship that they BURNED AND SANK IN THE BAY so that nobody could ever leave. In other words… bullshit.

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples3 ай бұрын

    The fact that this happened is insane. My prayers go out to the victims.

  • @jdmmg4904

    @jdmmg4904

    2 ай бұрын

    How does that help?

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn22233 ай бұрын

    Wait, didn't you made also a video on this at *Highlight History* _What Really Happened After the Mutiny on the Bounty_

  • @beagleuk3233

    @beagleuk3233

    3 ай бұрын

    yeah... he does that from time to time

  • @CampNou1999
    @CampNou19992 ай бұрын

    Simon is like a Modern Conquerer of KZread content territory. Everytime he explores a new side of content to provide, he successfully provides it, leaving settlers to take care of the day to day of his old channels It is fascinating to be alive to witness it.

  • @ImmersiveSportsScience
    @ImmersiveSportsScience3 ай бұрын

    Now you need to do. video on Tysford Sami & Lund assault cases where there were 151 cases of SA in Norway.

  • @CavemanWithAStringStick

    @CavemanWithAStringStick

    3 ай бұрын

    Sounds like that could be a casual criminalist script

  • @arjanzweers6542
    @arjanzweers65423 ай бұрын

    My question to that age of consent argument they made on Pitcairn is, did the children consent to that age of consent? Probably not

  • @jamesbest9038

    @jamesbest9038

    3 ай бұрын

    Raises some interesting questions: age of consent laws and other laws meant to protect children are entirely made by adults.

  • @gazoontight

    @gazoontight

    2 ай бұрын

    An interesting paradox. Can someone who has not reached the age of consent consent to an age of consent?

  • @AceSkates
    @AceSkates3 ай бұрын

    all the appeals and fight against the sentences after this trial are just as shocking.

  • @mariolemaux9119

    @mariolemaux9119

    3 ай бұрын

    Not that shocking when u think about it. Look at all the ppl who came out to defend bret kavanaugh, Donald Trump, Andrew tate and more. Lots of ppl have this disgusting mentality unfortunately

  • @craigquann

    @craigquann

    2 ай бұрын

    Are you for real? Lol.

  • @woodchild2093
    @woodchild20933 ай бұрын

    Living in NZ i most definitely remember this when it hit the headlines

  • @AncientIrishCelt

    @AncientIrishCelt

    3 ай бұрын

    Har har. As if NZ exists

  • @raylouis7013

    @raylouis7013

    3 ай бұрын

    Here in Australia I remember it as well.

  • @justinsmith4562

    @justinsmith4562

    2 ай бұрын

    What does where you live have anything to do with this story. Tosser.

  • @thefisherking78
    @thefisherking782 ай бұрын

    Pitcairn and its history are fascinating. Thanks for the account!

  • @The_Republic_of_Ireland
    @The_Republic_of_Ireland3 ай бұрын

    I remember Dankula doing this video and I was absolutely gobsmacked hearing about their "Cultural values"

  • @vrcmf3172

    @vrcmf3172

    3 ай бұрын

    Right but in the west respecting the cultural values of other regions is above all

  • @The_Republic_of_Ireland

    @The_Republic_of_Ireland

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@vrcmf3172 even paedophilia?

  • @jacquiollard8784

    @jacquiollard8784

    3 ай бұрын

    it is a UK territory @@vrcmf3172

  • @dovidstaples9985

    @dovidstaples9985

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@vrcmf3172 apparently not because the west tried and punished all those involved here

  • @The_Republic_of_Ireland

    @The_Republic_of_Ireland

    3 ай бұрын

    @@vrcmf3172 even interfering with kids and members of one's own family? Some respecting there

  • @QueensGTO_Viper
    @QueensGTO_Viper3 ай бұрын

    Hernán Cortés has entered the chat

  • @annikabjornson998
    @annikabjornson9982 ай бұрын

    “Randy Christian.” There’s an unfortunate name if I ever heard one.

  • @sid7088

    @sid7088

    2 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @bunyipdragon9499
    @bunyipdragon94992 ай бұрын

    Thankyou for not simply turning this into yet another salatious juicy click bait story.

  • @TheOrbitalmadness
    @TheOrbitalmadness3 ай бұрын

    I bet if they do a thorough search on that island, plenty of heinously dark acts would float to the surface.

  • @elizabethsohler6516

    @elizabethsohler6516

    3 ай бұрын

    That is not unique to Pitcairn Island or anywhere else as you know.

  • @TheOrbitalmadness

    @TheOrbitalmadness

    3 ай бұрын

    @@elizabethsohler6516 ah yes, an isolated island ran by deserters that treat woman like property that even england wants to shut down is not unique🥴😉😂🤣

  • @marvindebot3264

    @marvindebot3264

    Ай бұрын

    * laughs in Norfolk, St Helena and Ascension Islands *@@TheOrbitalmadness

  • @YoungGandalf2325
    @YoungGandalf23253 ай бұрын

    Dang. Simon's videos are normally fairly light-hearted and I'd try to come up with some funny comment to post, but this really is a dark topic.

  • @troyamundson289

    @troyamundson289

    3 ай бұрын

    Have you not watched Casual Criminalist? 😅

  • @YoungGandalf2325

    @YoungGandalf2325

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@troyamundson289No, but thank you for the recommendation. For better or worse, I just subscribed. 😟

  • @YoungGandalf2325

    @YoungGandalf2325

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@troyamundson289No, but thank you for the recommendation. For better or worse, I'm now subscribed. 😟

  • @TWE_2000

    @TWE_2000

    3 ай бұрын

    Diddy do it, or diddy not?

  • @necrocomicon8

    @necrocomicon8

    3 ай бұрын

    Welcome to into the shadows

  • @joeg3303
    @joeg33033 ай бұрын

    Diddy do it? Diddy did it.

  • @kennethwalker8402
    @kennethwalker84023 ай бұрын

    Ok, this starts with a misstatement that matters. Bligh was not "eventually picked up" They sailed that open boat thousands of miles to the port Bligh had chosen after being abandoned. And only lost one man. That was a story you really should tell in detail.

  • @pirobot668beta

    @pirobot668beta

    2 ай бұрын

    His was truly masterful bit of navigation. I'd read that he conducted activities in that boat like they were still onboard the ship. All the same tasks and duties, just on a smaller scale.

  • @hizacaine
    @hizacaine2 ай бұрын

    The British Territories of Saint Helena and Ascension Islands have been dogged by this same issue, just on a larger scale for a longer time.

  • @williamloy8182
    @williamloy81822 ай бұрын

    Has anyone payed attention to this island since this happened?

  • @badgersgetabadname
    @badgersgetabadname3 ай бұрын

    HILF podcast just knocked out a brilliant two parter on this.

  • @vrldc8966
    @vrldc89662 ай бұрын

    I fully understand differences in culture accounting for a younger age of consent. Many cultures around the world have ages of consent below 18. However, the fact that there was evidence of physical abuse among the children tells you that this was not a practice that was entirely consented to or totally accepted by the culture. There is a place for an explicit legal framework to govern this sort of stuff so everyone in the society can agree on what's appropriate and what's not.

  • @richardbrewis436
    @richardbrewis4362 ай бұрын

    The theme of the videos lately is captivating :)! Thanks Into the Shadows.

  • @loregod4825
    @loregod48253 ай бұрын

    Sounds like an island asking to be invaded.

  • @vbrown6445

    @vbrown6445

    2 ай бұрын

    It was the original invaders, the European mutineers, who started this culture of the rape and abuse of the native girls/women on the island.

  • @danielredding9205
    @danielredding92053 ай бұрын

    This episode really should have been 10x as long. This felt like a Whistler ClifNotes version, out of character for the channels like ITS, DTU, TCC, etc.

  • @sassandsavvy007
    @sassandsavvy0072 ай бұрын

    You can make excuses all you want abuse is still abuse. What's the chance any of the victims could refuse their abusers and still live on such a small island? Consent is one thing but being forced in anyway IS abuse and needs to be prosecuted and punished accordingly.

  • @noahlogue
    @noahlogue3 ай бұрын

    The millionth time Im gonna say this on one of Simon's videos Count Dankula has a video about the mutiny and the Pitcairn Islands

  • @omega1231

    @omega1231

    3 ай бұрын

    And so has hundreds of others, numerous news reports were made on it etc. So what's your point exactly?

  • @thebhome
    @thebhome2 ай бұрын

    Video story aside, how did I find Simon from Casual Criminalist, and by chance find this video to listen to only to discover that SIMON is the narrator..... Simon needs to put his voice into movies!

  • @edmundriddle3847
    @edmundriddle384718 күн бұрын

    Best and most unfortunate name in history….”Randy Christian” 🤣

  • @hiddencloudjc
    @hiddencloudjc3 ай бұрын

    That’s horrible.😩

  • @LondonFoxEMT
    @LondonFoxEMT3 ай бұрын

    The movie with Anthony Hopkins was great

  • @l.b8896
    @l.b88963 ай бұрын

    8:40 okay I see the conundrum. My solution would be to change the law. “Sorry this went unnoticed this long” (seriously how) “but most of you were acting in accordance with this questionable law. So here’s the new law, if you break it you go to jail for ever. Okay?? Okay”

  • @andivalachi8247
    @andivalachi82472 ай бұрын

    What if I were to tell you that a similar underage sex practice is done in plain view in an European Union country, also in the name of cultural practices? In Romania, where I am originally from, Gypsies marry their children at 11, 12, 13 yrs of age. Officially it is just a ceremonial wedding, not to be effective before the age of consent (16). In practice, those girls give birth at 13-14, so this is not simply a cultural ceremony but a true marriage. And I am sure that should it be forbidden and some parents would end up in jail, many in their community would be outraged of breaching their culture. Luckily for them, being seen as a minority, they benefit from more understanding from authorities than the rest of the citizens.

  • @Ferreal92
    @Ferreal922 ай бұрын

    I wonder what the standard is for isolated indigenous peoples? Does western ideas on ages of consent apply? The concept, for example in America, is a relatively new one with roots in 1920s feminism which helped to set the standard at 18. But before the 1920s it varied wildly or was non existent and does not appear in any religious texts.

  • @Hyde_Hill
    @Hyde_Hill3 ай бұрын

    Lol I thought my playback speed was too high. Slow down just a little bit please. We like the more relaxed voice.

  • @astralb.2647

    @astralb.2647

    3 ай бұрын

    Says you. I watch all videos sped up 😂

  • @darkydoom

    @darkydoom

    3 ай бұрын

    Slow it down then. There's those of us that speed up many videos

  • @Nylak-Otter

    @Nylak-Otter

    3 ай бұрын

    Seriously. I had this playing on my phone sitting next to me, and I kept subconsciously checking to make sure one of my critters wasn't touching it and making it accelerate into the chipmunk-zone. I just gave up and read the subtitles, because I can read faster than I can process auditory language (traumatic brain injury; I be spheshul).

  • @williamlouie569
    @williamlouie569Ай бұрын

    How did this got UK attention to begin with! This had been the norm until someone notified the outside world!

  • @seanjanecek4222
    @seanjanecek42222 ай бұрын

    Someone should look into isolated native villages in the Alaskan bush. You'll find very similar activity.

  • @hokahn6313
    @hokahn63133 ай бұрын

    In the Vatican, the age of consent was also 12, until 10 years ago.

  • @luckyluciano131

    @luckyluciano131

    3 ай бұрын

    Not true

  • @ginmar8134

    @ginmar8134

    3 ай бұрын

    Funny how some dewdz fantasize about low ages of consent.

  • @ginmar8134

    @ginmar8134

    3 ай бұрын

    WHY do you know that??

  • @solaireofastora8829

    @solaireofastora8829

    3 ай бұрын

    not true stop spreading lies just to make christinaity look bad open a bible go on google and research the facts heretic

  • @carolinebjerkelund767

    @carolinebjerkelund767

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't think religions ever consider consent.

  • @deadhorse1391
    @deadhorse13913 ай бұрын

    I have an Amish friend and they say “ old enough to bleed old enough to butcher “

  • @elizabethsohler6516

    @elizabethsohler6516

    3 ай бұрын

    Sadly there's a culture of child sexual abuse among the Amish also.

  • @zombiechicken7114

    @zombiechicken7114

    2 ай бұрын

    Yikes!

  • @sid7088

    @sid7088

    2 ай бұрын

    Ouch, how long til your butt stopped bleeding? 😂😂

  • @punkybrewstar83
    @punkybrewstar832 ай бұрын

    Kia ora This is a really important point rn, and I had entirely forgotten about it. It shows just how backward & savage Pākehā are. Lucky for the poms who settled here, us Māori were able to save them from themselves.

  • @jlvandat69
    @jlvandat69Ай бұрын

    One important piece left out of this story is how the women who were subjected to sexual activities at an earlier age developed......i.e., how did the sexual activity with these men affect them psychologically and emotionally? This is a crucial question, all legalities (and extreme cases, e.g., abuse of girls under 'consent' age of 12) aside, because it 'might' be that in this isolated community with its own norms and culture, such activities may not have had the expected serious impact on the women involved. It would be interesting to know.

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking62522 ай бұрын

    Read the story about the beginnings of the island, it's no excuse, but an understanding of a very unique situation. Just saying. ✌️

  • @j.dunlop8295
    @j.dunlop8295Ай бұрын

    France's age of consent was 12, till 2021, when they raised it to 15!

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly0013 ай бұрын

    Sounds like a Jeffrey Epstein paradise.

  • @canaanite23

    @canaanite23

    3 ай бұрын

    Or like half the Muslim world

  • @Vee_of_the_Weald

    @Vee_of_the_Weald

    3 ай бұрын

    @@canaanite23 Or like half of the organised religions in the US

  • @lawrencecarter1954

    @lawrencecarter1954

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Vee_of_the_Weald at least for Pakistan I believe around half of the marriages are first cousin, it's a "cultural" thing, even heard stories of girls born in America being flown over there to marry a cousin they've never met lmao but yeah I'm sure the south is just as bad, moral relativism much?

  • @Hillbilly001

    @Hillbilly001

    3 ай бұрын

    @user-qq6rr2je4q Best hope the law catches ya, cause if'n her kin get ahold of ya, they gonna take ya out into them darkest woods. Nail yer scrote to a stump, push ya over backwards and leave ya for the snakes and critters. They might find yer bones in a few years or maybe not. Cheers from Tennessee

  • @wonderwatch2239

    @wonderwatch2239

    3 ай бұрын

    When men make the rules, or dictate a religion, it’s amazing how it adapts and gets regulated, around the savage nature of Men, and stomps all over women 😢

  • @craigquann
    @craigquann2 ай бұрын

    I mean there's only ~40 people on the island. It would be pretty simple to "fix the culture".

  • @Anonymous-nw6fg
    @Anonymous-nw6fg3 ай бұрын

    The reality is that because Pitcarin Island only had/has a small population of people and the island is a part of Britian, Britian didnt have to worry about handling this case delicately as to avoid an international incident/conflict/war. Had Britian tried this with the USA I wouldnt be suprised if the USA just rolled their eyes and ignored Britian. Unfortunately some states in the USA do allow child marriages. The problem with enforcing views on other countries and therefore other cultures is that it would become a complicated mess.. I am not just talking about views regarding csa/sa. Im talking about all the views. How would it be decided who was in charge? Mass war? A representative from every country coming together to create universal law? A straw draw? It would start off with good intent but then where is the line in the sand? Who would decided what views needed to be thrusted onto other countries? Which views are good and which are bad? The obvious ones that are bad can likely be easily agreed on but what about the lesser obvious ones? How would it be determined if each country is complying with universal laws? Even someone with the purist of hearts would be tempted by that power. What assurance would be given that official(s) would be removed before they become corrupt? It would be a massive headache, need to be handled delicately and would cost a ton of money. I think the best place to start would be a universal standard of education backed by science and facts; this would create competition amongst the countries. A required standard education (as opposed to a cherry picked version or no education at all) would allow a population to thrive well because the people are properly educated as children and later as adults. This can translate into well educated people being placed into important positions of government. Make sure the standard is being complied with and I think more people of every country would begin to start changing the laws for the better on their own. They wouldn't have to wait around for someone more educated than them to do something to change laws.

  • @elizabethsohler6516

    @elizabethsohler6516

    3 ай бұрын

    The British managed to impose their legal and societal norms all over the world for decades. "The sun never sets..."

  • @nintendoeats
    @nintendoeats2 ай бұрын

    So...Casual Criminalist written by David coming in a few months?

  • @bobgonzo2531
    @bobgonzo25312 ай бұрын

    So our police don’t mind too investigating these things in the Pitcuirs but don’t think it’s necessary for Rothdale

  • @deniseelsworth7816

    @deniseelsworth7816

    2 ай бұрын

    👍💯

  • @baldrian22
    @baldrian223 ай бұрын

    a dark topic for sure, but also shows other problems, also the way the judges handeld it can defenitly see the problems from the groups perspective but what is going on was uniqe, if lets sey 500 lived on the island thing would been diferent on how long people got most likely because 6 people going to prison would have less of an impact than on a island of 47 people. i think the judges did a good job with all the problems they was facing there and yea, defenitly correct of having the trail in question on the island so the judges would understand more of the impact long prison sentences would have had if lets sey to the fullest extent of the law. in a big city far away from the location and judges never even been there and not had a lot of knowledge about the location either yea it could have been devestating for the comunity at large did they personaly deserve long times behind bars? potential, and probably, would it have impacted the comunity in a negative way? defenitly. was it a good solution? honestly i think it was the best one that could be done there considering amount of people that lived there. also we only her the sentence in regard to time behind bar etc, we did not learn about the compensation to the victims.

  • @josephgriffin2388
    @josephgriffin2388Ай бұрын

    The original rapists, mutineers of that time would smile if they could see us talking about them 200 years later.

  • @josephgriffin2388
    @josephgriffin2388Ай бұрын

    The same argument could be made for the days of Cortez, and the eding of a religious blood cult.

  • @DennisMSulliva
    @DennisMSulliva2 ай бұрын

    The original mutineers didn't bring enough women, and treated the native men as slaves. Most of the mutineers were killed in a native uprising.

  • @branscombeR
    @branscombeRАй бұрын

    Sadly, sexual abuse of under-age girls (and boys) among remote Aboriginal communities in Australia continues to this day, despite various government-funded reports over the years which advocate intervention to stop it. The conclusions of a 2001 investigation included: ‘The silence of the victims has brought so much fear and pain into their lives. The silence of families has caused a breakdown in our cultural and moral values, and the silence of the abuser has meant little hope of them getting the sort of help they need.’ 'They have been deprived of the most basic human right of children - ‘childhood’. R (Australia)

  • @paulgoodridge2269
    @paulgoodridge22693 ай бұрын

    If children or not involved I would be a lot more forgiving due to historical understanding. However, since children are involved, this is a murky gray area for me.

  • @user-fc1gq5xd9e
    @user-fc1gq5xd9e2 ай бұрын

    "Small island is funny kind of a place."

  • @whitneyanders5945
    @whitneyanders59452 ай бұрын

    Super gross. I remember when this all transpired.

  • @SeanWilliamGeorgeBuc
    @SeanWilliamGeorgeBuc2 ай бұрын

    Literally, yes, we do have the right to spread our morals and ethics in cases like this. This isnt up for debate.

  • @michaelstevens3479
    @michaelstevens3479Ай бұрын

    So an international law banning remote/ isolated groups is needed then ?

  • @steadfastandyx4947
    @steadfastandyx49473 ай бұрын

    Unsurprising.

  • @theblacklapinou
    @theblacklapinou25 күн бұрын

    That’s a terrible use of the rule of the land, and of democracy. I personally would have asked to vote about the legal age of « consent », and then I would have taken mesure that would ensure the next day recount would show an absolute majority against pedophiles. It would have taken two days, and a solid club.

  • @Snakesnarl
    @Snakesnarl2 ай бұрын

    I would guesss that if you live on an island in the middle of the ocean with 46 other people, that everyone is very inbred

  • @jdenmark1287
    @jdenmark1287Ай бұрын

    It isn’t complex. Just a normal human issue of having power with little or no checks and balances to keep people honest and accountable.

  • @dirtbagdeacon
    @dirtbagdeaconАй бұрын

    So....the wife of one of the guys was accused was totally okay with her husband sexually assaulting children while being married to him? That's so unbelievably creepy. Sounds like Handmaid's Tale. Edited to fix typo.

  • @lowtechredneck6704
    @lowtechredneck67043 ай бұрын

    At this point they should just forcibly evacuate the island and expatriate them to separate towns.

  • @GertBreunesse
    @GertBreunesse3 ай бұрын

    Please, please stop adding “background” music!

  • @anarchords1905
    @anarchords19053 ай бұрын

    They should just have said it was part of a religious rite. That's the usual loophole for beasts.

  • @patrickaycock3655

    @patrickaycock3655

    2 ай бұрын

    With god, all things are possible

  • @gailforce
    @gailforce2 ай бұрын

    Randy Christian.......

  • @waynesteffen3262
    @waynesteffen32623 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry the name of the writer is not listed, but whoever you are-thank you!

  • @GothikBeerTV
    @GothikBeerTV3 ай бұрын

    I thought that no-one was proven innocent.

  • @word90
    @word902 ай бұрын

    I bet this isle is where p.diddy is gonna hide

  • @Shria9
    @Shria93 ай бұрын

    To be found not guilty is not the same as being innocent. It just means there wasn't enough evidence to convict.

  • @SweetTexasGal
    @SweetTexasGal3 ай бұрын

    Didn't we already do this one? On another channel

  • @dronexfun8469
    @dronexfun84692 ай бұрын

    Just leave kids alone.

  • @lordshillington1375
    @lordshillington13753 ай бұрын

    Content is great but background music slightly too loud which distracts from the dialogue

  • @Mindboggles
    @Mindboggles3 ай бұрын

    Is the voice sped up or something? It sounds like it, really bothers me lol

  • @509_kiki-xxxkluxive9

    @509_kiki-xxxkluxive9

    3 ай бұрын

    Sounds like ai

  • @Vee_of_the_Weald

    @Vee_of_the_Weald

    3 ай бұрын

    Sounds like Simon after way too many coffees to me.

  • @Mindboggles

    @Mindboggles

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Vee_of_the_Weald lmao, wish it was only that. There's some quality to the sound of the audio that sounds very reminiscent of audio that's been sped up. You're probably not wrong that Simon had too many coffees, considering the amount of content he uploads. The dude's a real one

  • @ajkleipass
    @ajkleipass3 ай бұрын

    The age of consent can be 12 or 112, it wasn't a question of whether they were "old enough to consent", but whether they actually did consent. Rape is rape regardless of age of consent. These men were rapists. What's more, they were doing it to their own kin.

  • @chadreese9501
    @chadreese95013 ай бұрын

    Not a casual criminalist?

  • @mrraccoon6264
    @mrraccoon62643 ай бұрын

    Jeffrey Epstein was here

  • @Hillbilly001

    @Hillbilly001

    3 ай бұрын

    My thoughts exactly.

  • @blahsomethingclever

    @blahsomethingclever

    3 ай бұрын

    On a tiny island there's little to do, and this was arguably exciting to the men. Or it could be that men with those tendencies fathered more children until it became a cultural norm through genetic selection. It is a human trait after all; natural selection cares little about how that ghengis khan was a not nice person, but the offspring he had.

  • @liamwinter4512

    @liamwinter4512

    3 ай бұрын

    Where do you think he got the idea

  • @louisoost121
    @louisoost1212 ай бұрын

    Imagine ppl defending these sick people.

  • @wvuvino21
    @wvuvino212 ай бұрын

    AI voice is creepy

  • @l.b8896
    @l.b88963 ай бұрын

    4:47 maybe have morals??

  • @bryonslatten3147
    @bryonslatten3147Ай бұрын

    Now you need to do a similar exposee on Papua New Guinea. The stories from there make Pitcairn look mild.

  • @nicelydunwell5681
    @nicelydunwell56813 ай бұрын

    "Half the size of Disney World, twice the fun!"

  • @sharkasm1906

    @sharkasm1906

    3 ай бұрын

    they just seem to have misplaced their "must be this tall to ride" signs

  • @collingalbraith4343

    @collingalbraith4343

    3 ай бұрын

    @@sharkasm1906they switched them out for “must be shorter then this” signs

  • @Vee_of_the_Weald

    @Vee_of_the_Weald

    3 ай бұрын

    @@collingalbraith4343 Ooooooh… as a mother, this made me curl my toes so badly 😅

  • @julianstone1192
    @julianstone11923 ай бұрын

    There biggest mistake is not converting to Islam, then they would be hero’s for keeping there culture alive

  • @aimansafwan1997

    @aimansafwan1997

    2 ай бұрын

    Ok bigot.

  • @madzen112
    @madzen112Ай бұрын

    Argentina, please liberate these islands instead