I'm Irish, watch as much of Simon's stuff as possible. There's something about irish events and conflict specifically that Simon seems to cover with respect and dignity. He done the Easter Rising ,War of Independence and Civil War on warographics. I'm still awaiting his take on the troubles. This is a very good piece on a very difficult event in Dublin's history. Keep up the good work sir.

@johnmoorefilm

2 күн бұрын

Well-said👊

@13infbatt

2 күн бұрын

He’s an excellent documentarian.

@sbcee2220

2 күн бұрын

Thought he's done a video on the Troubles. Maybe even three.

@JohnMarkDoethe1st

2 күн бұрын

You Irish or American?

@sbcee2220

2 күн бұрын

@@JohnMarkDoethe1st are you asking me or OP?

This story breaks my heart, but the worst part for me? Everyone who went back in to help the others. They risked their bodies, their minds, and too many paid the ultimate price just being good people. That's the worst thing. They were heroes, and they got f**king **nothing** for it. These poor people..

Thank you for covering this, the stardust fire didn't just affect the local area, it broke the country. The memories have left me crying but I still thank you.

@duncancurtis5108

2 күн бұрын

Cinq Sept 1970 was a needless catastrophe caused by shoddy management and lax safety.

@mattiemathis9549

2 күн бұрын

I think most nations and even local areas have a moment in each generation that transforms the public focus for many decades and sometimes centuries. I wasn’t 10 years old when this happened. I remember it. The news reports were saying it was “whatever popular term for domestic terrorism, was back then”. I’m from the USA and I thought it was over around 15 minutes, because that’s how it would have ended in my country. I’m so happy that progress is being made toward justice. And I’m not paying lip service, but yall have come out stronger and safer, not only through adversity, but in spite of it. 🙏

@dawnmoriarty9347

20 сағат бұрын

Crying as soon as this video started

My parents lived in Dublin around this time and the way the government handled it was absolutely unforgiveable

@johnwinter7597

2 күн бұрын

Idk what else could had been done

@Fitz1993

2 күн бұрын

​@johnwinter7597 You mean other than an actual inquest like they ended up doing in 2019?

@RightLadd

2 күн бұрын

@@johnwinter7597 the emergency exists had been locked and the electrical work had been known for years to be in disrepair among many many other things, there was a lot more that should have been done

@Dilydaydream1

Күн бұрын

@@johnwinter7597 they blamed the dead and injured of arson. The place was a fking deathtrap.... they had carpeted tiles up the walls and ceiling, firedoors were locked, blocked and all windows had bars on outside. The owners got away with a lovely insurance payout and not even a smack on the wrist......

@johnwinter7597

Күн бұрын

@@Dilydaydream1 that’s what I had gathered from what I’ve read on the incident, however they seem to be employed because the investigation has something to do with England that it wasn’t correct although I believe it wasn’t correct. I don’t think that politics that area had anything to do with it.

They were just kids, kids enjoying their lives. That's what strikes me the hardest, they were all younger than I am now. It would obviously be tragic at any age, but most of them had barely started to live their lives.

If you see a fire on a neighboring building, do NOT wait to hear sirens. CALL IMMEDIATELY!!! Minutes could be the difference between life and death!!!!

@SoundShinobiYuki

2 күн бұрын

And if there’s already been a call out, they’ll just say that help is already on the way. You are NOT going to get in trouble by calling.

Footnote.Christy Moore was sued for Libel and slander for writing that song under Irish libel law by Butterly cost Christy Moore 20 thousand punts at the time and branded him a criminal.

@violet7773

2 күн бұрын

The song can't be played on Irish radio because it's "defamatory" but the families play it at memorial events

@brendanashe5882

2 күн бұрын

I had no idea about this. Fair play to Christy for standing up for justice.

@ellemmenn2930

Күн бұрын

wtf?!? Seriously

@OscarOSullivan

17 сағат бұрын

Possibly since the second inquest it might be possible to have the defamatory status challenged.

As a Dubliner, I'd like to say you for covering this video. Brought a tear to my eye

My mother was meant to meet friends there that night, but she got into a fight with one of the head nurses of the hospital she was working in the hospital laundry. Because people did not turn up for work so she had to do a double. My mother had bad eyesight and in later life became blind. If she had been there that night she would have died. She used to say that she was lucky to be alive, but she said "I am only alive because of the Bitch"

It's almost as if you were speaking of the Colectiv club fire, here in Bucharest, Halloween night, 2015. 65 people gone. 😢 Stories that just repeat themselves again and again.

@Kat-tr2ig

2 күн бұрын

It also reminds me of the fire that broke out in the nightclub República Cromañón in Buenos Aires, Argentina, in December 2004, killing 194 people and leaving almost 1,500 injured. The band playing there that night, Callejeros, advertised it as "the traffic flare party," encouraging people to bring flares to the concert. One ignited a shade cloth that was (illegally) covering the ceiling and the club went up in flames. The worst part was that some of the deaths were small children, since there was a sort of "daycare" being run from the women's bathroom.

@richiehoyt8487

2 күн бұрын

​@@Kat-tr2ig Hadn't even _heard_ of that one, which is pretty appalling in its own right. No doubt the usual litany of corruption, cheap~assery & victim blaming; but surely most culpable here has to be the group... I mean, if that's gonna be your theme, why not just go the whole hog and hold the gig in a fireworks factory?!

Hey Simon, you should consider making an episode about the 2013 Kiss Nightclub fire in Brazil, over 240 deaths and over 600 injured. They were traped inside the club on fire having to break the concrete walls to save their lives. It's one of the worst fires in nightclubs in the world and still a very sore topic around here, it's been very hard for the families to get justice and even point out a culprit. One night you go out to have fun with your friends and never comes back, the families tales are heartbreaking.

The Stardust Fire has always been an extraordinarily significant tragedy (crime) …Ireland was in such dire economic state in those days, we had The Troubles raging, hunger strikes, bombs , shootings, heroin epidemic. Music has always been the “go-to” for escapism in Ireland (like most people) so it was cruel and awful that these young people just wanting a night away from life should meet such an end. RIP.

I lost relatives in this fire, thank you Simon 🇮🇪

Thank you for this. I've heard the story before, but never this in depth. Also, thank you for leaving the names of those who lost their lives up for a respectful amount of time.

Both my parents were meant to be there on that night but ended up not going. Hit and miss with the Irish pronunciations

@doithimaceabhard7457

17 сағат бұрын

Mostly miss tho, Ahern I thought was fairly obvious and Seamus is a stereo typical name

Taoiseach = "Tea-Shuck". Haughey = "Haw-Hee"

@LauraGrrrr5370

2 күн бұрын

A-hern. Seamus = Shay-mus.

@LauraGrrrr5370

2 күн бұрын

Gardaí = Gar-dee

@FullmetalYoutuber2012

2 күн бұрын

Garda Síochana is pronounced Gard-ah Shee-oh-kawna. Considering he’s British, it’s MYSTIFYING how many Irish names Simon got wrong.

@LauraGrrrr5370

2 күн бұрын

@FullmetalKZreadr2012 I had to stop commenting, honestly. I can understand mispronouncing Haughey (I believe Simon's in his 30s and wouldn't have been paying much attention to news etc when he was in power) and even Ahern (some people with that surname do stress the A). But Seamus. Darragh. Taoiseach. Gardaí.

@FullmetalYoutuber2012

2 күн бұрын

@@LauraGrrrr5370 yeah. Never mind the tourism between UK and Ireland. Some of them you’d know from just being the literal names British people have by being the kids of Irish immigrants or Irish immigrants themselves. And I’m pretty sure the BBC/Sky news frequently use the word “Taoiseach” too. But could be wrong.

I lived Northside for over a decade. The reaction to this disaster from locals is nothing short of inspirational. The reaction from officials has been disgusting. Love and respect to the Dubs.

Thank you for covering this. Especially for family members This is in our living memory. A tragedy. Thankfully this year a tiny bit of justice. Im still not sure if its enough. Rest in heaven as angels the people who lost your lifes. And the people who lived. Peace hope strength wherever that is i hope for you and your children and their children ♡ I imagine at the time it imformed bars and discos from locking up doors! & to definitely have fire exits open. I hope lessons were learnt & that must have saved lives!

one of my best friends is irish, and his mam apparently almost went to the stardust that night and didn’t. absolutely terrifying to think you were just lucky, missing a horrible fate by a hair’s breadth

Its shocking how long it took for these poor families to get some sort of justice. it was bittersweet watching the case on the news here in ireland recently

I only just took a photo yesterday of the wreaths laid in The Garden of Remembrance to honour each person.

Irish man here. I live not too far away from where this happened. Great vid as always, Simon. I watch all your channels voraciously. :D

What a horrific tragedy... and what happened afterward, the victims and their families not being properly taken care of, is rage inducing.

I’m Irish . 54. I remember the sense of shock and over the years the very definite sense of how being poor means justice can be delayed or denied

@johnmoorefilm

2 күн бұрын

Spot-on, I’m 54 too, man , the 1980’s were grim in Ireland…

@ellemmenn2930

Күн бұрын

I’m sorry you all lived through that, it was horrible, I’d never heard of it before… though I think it’s worldwide if you’re rich you can get away with just about anything while the poor continue to suffer… even to this day

A sentence you'll never hear me say: It's only a little fire.

"This act, like so many other laws, is written in the blood of those for whom it came too late." Well written Aoife. Great script.

It´s heartbreaking the imagine these horribly injured young people wandering outside this building, searching for their friends. It´s a testament to their love, and to the state of shock they were in. PEace to them and to their families. Thanks for covering this.

Please make a channel for biographies!!! I loved biographics, but didnt realise it wasnt your channel until you werent in it anymore. You did a phenomenal job and they were really interesting!!

Have you covered "The Station" nightclub fire in Massachusetts in 2003? The band Great White was playing. You have done so many videos, so I may have missed it!

@patti-annecrowell6865

2 күн бұрын

Never mind the Station how about coconut grove?

@kryw10

2 күн бұрын

Man, I remember that. What a waste of life. 😢

@celticacab9867

Күн бұрын

The footage from that is absolutely horrifying. Was shown it as part of my fire warden training a few years ago, and can still remember every scream. Crazy

Man, there are so many tragic nightclub fire disasters around the world. I remember Kiss Club, in Brazil 2013. Over 200 teenagers were killed.

@KensCounselingCouch

2 күн бұрын

The Station Nightclub Fire is a horrific one from the early 2000s in the USA. It was recorded on video camera from the moment it started and through the cameramen exiting and the death of 100 people from either the fire, smoke inhalation, or being crushed at the exit of the building. It's on KZread. It's a pretty horrific video but it shows ways to improve fire safety and what went wrong.

@piratemousie

2 күн бұрын

My friends band were playing that night, they were devastated, and had no idea it was an illegal club, but they got slammed for it. Horrible time for all.

@SoundShinobiYuki

2 күн бұрын

There’s a massive list of nightclub/discotheque fires on Wikipedia. The cocoanut grove as far back as the 1940’s, the Bluebird hotel, the Whiskey-a-go-go, the Beverly Hills supper club , the Happyland dance club, the Station, the Kiss club…. People who are out for a night of fun almost never check to see if their venue is actually safe (it shouldn’t HAVE to be something people do, but after reading all of those you can’t help but go somewhere and think “How safely and quickly can I get out of here if there was a fire?”. And then when you’re in the dark and several drinks in, that easy staircase out or finding the exit door that you thought was right there turns into a complete nightmare. And club owners always seem to be more complicit than most in endangering their patrons by locking doors and windows shut and not marking the exits.

@piratemousie

2 күн бұрын

@@SoundShinobiYuki as an event manager and daughter of a fire captain, I've cancelled gigs on the night for dodgey venues/practices from the staff, like chaining the doors shut after the punters were in, shit like that. Sadly I'm in the minority, and get a fuck ton of grief for it. But I remember how bad the Kiss Club was, and how it destroyed so many people I care about, I couldn't have that shit on my conscience.

@SoundShinobiYuki

2 күн бұрын

@@piratemousie And as someone who works in the entertainment industry along with my husband and spends her weekends in convention centres, clubs, halls, theatres, etc., I’m damn glad to see there’s *someone* out there who stands for safety. I’ve been lucky so far (one evacuation when the smoke alarms tripped due to a fog machine, one small fire that got put out before the fire department even got there) and I’ve left venues that I felt were genuinely unsafe, but it only needs to happen once to change your life forever.

This is one of my worst nightmares. Many years ago I was at a punk show that suddenly started to fill with thick smoke. Thankfully, it was just some idiot who threw a smoke bomb through an open window

As an Irish person and a fan of all of your channels, Simon, thank you for covering this event. The coverage and sentiment was excellent. On a less important note, some of the pronunciations are not great. Irish names and words are tricky but potentially reach out to someone Irish for the correct pronunciation on e.g. Garda Síochána, especially as that's one that may come up again on this channel or the casual criminalist etc.

@liamblaney6433

2 күн бұрын

I came here to write this.

@Ard-mhacha-abu

2 күн бұрын

Not a good time to be pronunciation police. Give Simon a break for goodness sake.

@canin1730

2 күн бұрын

"on a less important note" you say about something taking up 80% of the message... like, really man? pronounciation is what youre taking away from the coverage of a tragic event that many of us are hearing about for the first time?

@alpha1solace

2 күн бұрын

People's names are different to words, like people mispronouncing Melbourne because they won't say it like an Australian does. I assume Europeans are more used to people from different countries pronouncing things their way. Like prague- im not saying prakk. But when it comes to names it can be tricky. I have a middle eastern coworker called thrawrah- i cant even spell it. Most people call her Tara. It is a matter of what you can get your tongue around. But hey, one day we can use revoicer ai for the names and it can say that part correctly.

@tbc3770

2 күн бұрын

It’s annoying he’s speaking the same language for most of the words he got wrong

I wasnt alive when this happened in dublin, but i can tell you its still felt even today, alot of families broke down after this, its been a stain on north dublin for far to many years

A tragic story very tastefully presented Thank you, Simon

Thank you for this episode 🙏🏻

Thanks for covering this Simon

Excellent episode Simon, thank you for covering this heartbreaking tragedy!

I remember watching this as a kid on the news . Excellent coverage of a tragic story .

Thanks Simon for covering this topic.

Thank you handling this with such grace .

Sad loss of life so young heartbreaking

This was a shocking cover up because the owner of the venue flouted health & safety laws, the owner was a businessman who was well connected with the governing political party.

@Dilydaydream1

2 күн бұрын

Land of the brown envelope

@douglasbillington8521

2 күн бұрын

​​@@Dilydaydream1as in bribes, I assume? That's depressing

@Dilydaydream1

Күн бұрын

@@douglasbillington8521 yes money talks in politics. At the time of stardust fire its local politican was Charles Haughey who happened to be taoiseach or prime minister. He was so corrupt he owned an island off the kerry coast. Totally in plain sight. The tribunal had his long term mistresses husband judge keane heading it. Like he would have been impartial - my arse! I was 10 yrs old. I lived on the southside equivalent working class area. A classmates sister was a survivor. Her shoes melted into her feet. She was one of the lucky ones........ even back then i knew as a child working classes meant nothing to our government and all these years later they still dont

Glad to see you do a video on this one Simon

Never thought I'd see this covered. Thank you❤

Thank you!

Brilliantly articulated version of tragic loss of innocent victims

As an Irish person, this was just excellent. You're a true class act Simon.

Thank you for covering this awful tragedy with such grace, Simon.

Thank you Simon for covering this event.

I was 13 when this happened and attending secondary school at Salesian College Ballinakill about an hour from Dublin. The following week all students were allowed to write about our thoughts on the tragedy. We didnt know then but this was obviously a form of therapy to help us deal with shock of what had just happened.

@dawnmoriarty9347

20 сағат бұрын

You're fortunate. I had a fight with my school for having polystyrene ceiling tiles. Their response was that it was irrelevant " because the school has a working fire alarm system and routinely does fire drills"

Another informative video. Thank you.

My god...what an awful tragedy. I can't even fathom the terror that those poor people must've felt.

After the site was sold, the new owners put a kids play centre in it's place called Energy and, I swear to god, it also burnt down about 10 years ago.

In film school we had a module on dramatising factual events and we watched the RTE mini series Stardust as part of it and it was one of the best, but most upsetting things I’ve ever watched. I had to leave the room to catch my breath I was so affected by it. Deeply upsetting but worth the watch if anyone is interested in how to create sensitive and realistic depictions of tragedy.

There was also The Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island during the Whitesnake concert. It started when they set off pyrotechnics INSIDE the building that was "insulted" with flammable packing foam. It killed 100 and injured over 200.

I used to work in a supermarket, and one of the managers was a survivor of the Stardust fire. One of his eyes was melted shut, and he had no hair on that side of his head.

that song "they never came home" was banned, wasn't it? i'm sure i read that.

Like your video on the Irish famine simon this is very well done

Caller from Dublin: Simon, I'm a big fan, so please take this in good faith. You managed to get every single Irish word and name wrong (without exception). Of course Irish people are going to tune into this one and I assume it it monetised. It would not be difficult at all to have a transliteration on the script. Had the subject been lighter and less close to home I would have laughed this off - but Artane is not that far from me and I have friends who lost friends in the Stardust. Thanks.

This reminds me so much of The Station Fire in Rhode Island.

As a firefighter, I have studied many of these fires and negligence always seems to be the cause, whether it be flammable materials, over capacity, poor repairs or even done purposely. Always know where your fire exits are located whenever in a hotel, club or even restaurant. Even this is no guarantee though if someone has chained and locked those exits. Can we have the Station Nightclub and Kings Cross fires next, in both cases it was strange to know that even when some people saw fire and smoke they still didn't think to leave to safety.

Whilst watching a rte morning kid's show in 1981 with Angus mcanelly.. there was a newsflash to tell us that 49 people had died in a night club fire in Dublin...i was about 10 year's old....i still remember it to this day

On a lighter note I love Simon trying to pronounce Irish names

I can't watch this it's still one of the saddest things that ever happened in dublin😢

That was a great episode. New information for me as an american. Thank you

My grandmother was at the Stardust, unknowingly pregnant with my mam. She luckily escaped when those outside broke down a door that her and others were trapped behind, suffering 3rd degree burns and staying in hospital for a few weeks,. Her and my grandfather lost many friends and fought for justice all those years along with everyone else from Northside Dublin who suffered the effects of the complete negligence by those in charge. Her life went on but 48 others tragically lost theirs along with those who suffered the mental effects of what they witnessed, most teenagers. Her opinion has always been that if this happened to people not from a working-class background, Northsiders, that justice would not have had to been fought for and that the incident would never have happened in the first place. Unfortunately, the tragedy is a snapshot of Ireland at the time, complete lack of care by those controlling the country. Those who fought for justice should be celebrated as heroes, never forgetting what was lost that night.

Thank you.

Thank you Simon. That is all.

My aunt’s first husband perished in the fire. He was survived by my aunt and my cousin. Hard to believe that it took so long for some form of justice to finally come forth, however that much that can be after such an awful event.

Thanks for covering this Simon, was a ten year old when this happened and it did shock the nation. But please learn to pronounce Irish names a bit better. What you do is so important, please continue to educate all of your fans.

When you hear about tragedies like this and talk about the lasting deep pain of survivors families, shouldn’t we also talk about those victims and families who seemed to hold it together or were in a better place after such a terrible loss? I personally would like to know why some people cope much better than others.

Well it was fun watching you guys at donut.. will continue to watch that channel AND also watch this channel. You guys do alot of stuff i like so have been watching since i first came across the channel .. wish ya both success on this endeavor apart from donut and occasionally still doing some donut content!!

Glad your covering this, devastated that it happened.

What a tragic incident. It reminds me of a similar incident that happened in South Korea. On October 30th, 1999, in Incheon Metropolitan City at 6:55 pm, a beer hall caught fire and killed 56 people, and injured 75 people, most of them minors. This incident was later known as the "Incheon Inhyeon-dong pub fire disaster." The fire was caused by a cigarette in the Karaoke box underneath the building. The sprinklers had been removed for renovation reasons. The fire spread quickly with the cheap urethane foam interior on underground and ground floors, creating toxic gas. The beer hall was on the second floor, and most customers were minors. The establishment had been running an illegal business of advertising & selling alcohol to minors. The place had been overcrowded to maximize profit. 100 customers in 35.5 sqft. The place was like a can of sardines. There were no proper exits, and the windows didn't open. The manager blocked the entrance, demanding the teenagers pay before leaving, making them miss the golden hour and making the place inescapable. The manager later escaped by ripping off the ventilation fan in the kitchen without telling anyone. When the powers went out, the chaos became worse. Teenagers rushed toward the emergency exit sign, only to discover it led to the restroom. People pushed in, but none could come out. When the rescue team came in, the majority of the bodies were centered in that area. All of them died from suffocation. The Karaoke box and the beer hall had been owned by one person, an entrepreneur who owned 8 similar businesses in the area. And he had been bribing the local police and inspectors to overlook the blatant code violations in his establishments. The owner and manager were each sentenced to 5 years and 3 1/2 years in prison for causing death by Occupational Negligence. But the bribed officials and officers were never charged with imprisonment. The majority of the media and the public portrayed the incident as "students who got killed for sneaking into an illegal pub and getting drunk." South Korea was more conservative in 1999, and the student's only duty was to be polite and diligent in their studies. Arcade games, Karaoke, and any means the students could do for fun were discouraged as "distracting" and "corruptive." When the families of the deceased put on demonstrations and petitions to plead proper justice for the corrupt officials and officers & laws to prevent incidents like this from happening again, the media and the public shamed them for "trying to rip off more settlement money by selling out their dead children."

Thank you for your respect.

Thank you

Thanks Simon, the whole event was swept under the carpet by politicians for years

i lived very close to this place but it happened before i was born. i know all about it and the horrer that incured. thank you simon for covering this as the larger area is still scared by this event.

A Brit here and I've never heard of this incident. F-ing horrific. Normally stories like this dont effect me but i have two daughters who will soon be at that age where they are going to parties and disco's by themselves.

i'm irish and I'm sick to death of hearing about The Stardust tbh. Every year ..we all know what happened.And it was 40+ years ago. I swear we will be hearing about it for another 40. Fire happened , people died .People want the state to apologise and accept responsibility Dear god

This incident was heartbreaking. It should never have happened it was down to sheer greed

Thank you so much for covering this tragedy. So many families were affected.vkudis on your Irish pronunciation too!

@nawhedawhe6905

2 күн бұрын

. .opps .

@richiehoyt8487

2 күн бұрын

A Concise, essentially accurate and respectful documentary... But in fairness, Simon did make a dog's dinner of the pronunciations! I wouldn't even knock him for it... More or less the equivalent of people saying "Worr~cess~ter~shire" for Worcestershire, "Gluecosster" for Gloucester, "Eedin~burg" for Edinburgh... or "Saint John" for the person's name St.John (pron. 'Sinjonn/Sinjinn') etc...

The length of time it took fighting to get some sense of justice is unreal 💔😢

Loved the video, and I know the written Irish language was basically made to mess with English speakers. But god its still funny to hear Simon butcher saying some Irish words and names

Itsbeen dreadful story here in Ireland for years, dreadful how long the families had to fight for this.

Had never heard this story before. All i can say is may the souls of the 48 rest in peace now that the truth at least appears to be coming out.

Aw, Gawd ! There have been so many needless deaths, over the years - due to mismanagement and carelessness.. When or if will anybody learn ? Tears .

This episode hit like a punch in the guts, i was aware of the Stardust fire but not in this much detail. Thank you team for your great work!

This is not the reason anyone on a dancefloor wants to be referred to as "on fire".

The Unforgettable Fire U2 1985.

JC that’s horrific 😢 I’m speechless.

I was listening to the radio the night before I went to bed was playing Disco Inferno and woke up to the news of Stardust fire.

I have to say I'm really impressed by the range of Irish related videos you have put out covering our history.

The fire haunts my nightmares. I was at school at the time in Dublin 😢

Just for context, as I imagine, those not from Ireland are probably a little confused as to why the victims were buried so quickly. In Ireland, you don't need to wait for a death certificate before a funeral unless the person's death was under suspicious circumstances (aka, something the Garda/Coroners Office is investigating), meaning the funeral/burial is usually within two to four days (depending on the day) of death.

Never heard of this horrible incident before, but it reminds me so much of The Station, Collectiv, Cro-Magnon, and way too many others to count. Right down to nothing of substance happening to help those who survived or who lost loved ones.

This reminds to a similar cade on Argentina...The cromagnon dance club Fire. After it there was a long court case that took almost ten years

. . as an irishman.. i appriciate this video very much .. irish names are not your forte .. .. ie. Seamus.... Shay .. mus .. .. great show though. .

My mother was supposed to go that night but was grounded by my Grandmother

How the hell did you get my dental picture of my impacted wisdom teeth?