Actually read "Who killed Bob Crane" 4 times at least. When the book arrived at my place I started reading it directly and was finished the same evening :-)

@brainsareus

3 жыл бұрын

Cool... I do find the author to be a crass self-promoter.

@dreamingrightnow1174

2 жыл бұрын

@@brainsareus Right? How many times did he say, "My book, Who killed Bob Crane"? Makes you wonder if his YT channel name is " Doreen S".. 🤑

@dfuher968

2 жыл бұрын

@@dreamingrightnow1174 Exactly, I had to go to the comments to find out, if the blood sample turned out to be Bob Cranes, coz he just got worse and worse, and I found myself unable to focus on the info, coz his friggin incessant plugging was driving me crazy. Well, he succeeded in, that I most definitely know the title of his book, but he also succeeded in making sure, that I will never ever buy it. Thats just me, the more pushy ppl get, the more I refuse, and this guy could make a used car salesman envious.

Wasn't it said that Carpenter had blood and tissue ("possible brain matter") in his rented car? Not something you see every day.

@brianpress3337

2 жыл бұрын

The Police had the Right Guy, Carpenter Did it, period, I'm really not interested in Bob Crane,s sexual proclivities, it had nothing to do with John Carpenter, murdering Bob Crane. I mean, It's only my opinion 👍

@nicholasjanke3476

5 ай бұрын

​@@brianpress3337 Well the motive: 1. Bob Crane said he was tired of collecting x rated films for John Carpenter. 2. John Carpenter no doubt became enraged that Bob Crane was dropping him. 3. John Carpenter then murdered Bob Crane.

Sounds like forensic genealogy needs to be run on the unknown DNA sample.

What is the name of the book again? I missed it. Don't think it was mentioned enough...

This was outstanding. I have never before heard this case explained in such understandable detail.

Thanks. Really enjoy this channel.

@MostNotorious

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Let us hope there is no "small town" police screw up with the Moscow, Idaho situation. There certainly was with Bob Crane and Jon Benet Ramsey.

This guy's theory says Crane got out of bed, begrudgingly let Carpenter inside, then went to bed and fell ASLEEP with Carpenter still in the apartment. That makes no sense.

@marigold7250

3 жыл бұрын

@Tom Wofford It makes more sense when you consider that they were still on somewhat friendly terms, enough that Bob Crane had left a reminder to himself to take Carpenter to the airport at 10 am the next morning . If Carpenter asked to spend the night and they could leave together in the morning he probably would have agreed.

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

@@marigold7250 Yup. And as the guy being interviewed mentioned multiple times: Crane was not one to "make waves". He wasn't the kind of person to just ghost friends, and disappear from their life completely without a word. He was trying to let Carpenter down gently about no longer needing him for his dalliances, but still allowed him to attend his Dinner Theatre show, traveled in the same car with Carpenter, and brought him along to go pick up some women after striking out with a different one. People have a bad habit of only hearing what they want to.

@RedLeo-pf9yo

Жыл бұрын

It makes perfect sense. I think Crane still cared for him as a human being.

@BlueCollarBeerSnob

4 ай бұрын

It does if you knew about their relationship

By the way, what was the name of that book again? 😂 Just kidding, I look forward to reading it.

How was Crane going to give Carpenter a ride to the airport if his car was at the service station? And why wouldn't Carpenter simply turn his rental car in at the airport thus not need a ride from Crane? Who knows? Probably nothing

@walleye364

3 жыл бұрын

From my understanding, He was going to go with Carpenter to the airport in the rental. Who knows if he got the rental car from the airport. He could have gotten the car from a rental company and Hogan was going to drop it off. Carptenter's clothes were sitting by the door so when he came over Hogan wouldn't forget it. Carpenter left very early to the airport.

@marigold7250

3 жыл бұрын

@BigstoolerO It could be that Carpenter was the one who flattened his tire that night and then asked to spend the night at his place so that Crane could take him to the airport in the morning and Crane would still have use of a car the next day.

@gina.1

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's *why* Crane was going to give Carpenter a ride to the airport because he could use the rental car since his was at the service station. It was different in those days. You could return the rental car to any of the company's location without a big deal/fee. Besides, this is Bob Crane, ppl would have given him what he wanted ... 😉

Very informative. So much so that I just subscribed!

John Carpenter killed Bob Crane in my opinion. This seems obvious.

@legentilhommedefortune

3 жыл бұрын

I do not believe it , it look like he was more valueable dead than alive , somewhere someone got an insurance on Crane's head , he was wacked by the industry (tyre trick) , when there's too much stars on the market their value goes down ....

@MrShobar

3 жыл бұрын

You weren't a juror.

@ErichH68

3 жыл бұрын

Those that say Carpenter had no reason to kill Crane forget that it was a crime of passion. And how upset Carpenter was when Crane tried to break off their friendship.

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

@@legentilhommedefortune That is the laziest, most tired reasoning ever. Every moron in a tinfoil hat always thinks "ThE iDuStRy DiD iT" because they're so disinterest in actually using their brain.

there are many men who are excellent fathers but lousy husbands. it’s a different skill set.

@kellihart2185

3 жыл бұрын

WOW!! I never knew this..Sick world.

@dreamingrightnow1174

2 жыл бұрын

That's a low bar you're offering for a "good" dad. It sounds like his sex life was what he cared about, I don't think he was going to a lot of kid events or showing up for dinner. Being there is what makes a good a dad. Too bad you don't know that.

@marylynnkotis7246

2 жыл бұрын

@@dreamingrightnow1174 On the night Bob was murdered he was making an edited version of Saturday Night Fever so his Son could watch it. He wasn't a bad Father.

@doreenutz1049

2 жыл бұрын

It amazes me that people believe that a man demonstrating this type of behavior for his children would be considered a good father, I don't care if he was editing Saturday night fever.

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

@@marylynnkotis7246 Lol. No he wasn't. He was trying to find a woman that would agree to come back to his apartment and have sex with him that night using his "star power". And what, editing a family-friendly version of Saturday Night Fever for his adult son? Okay.

Use maternal DNA to see if it matches Bob Crane's family.

I still believe it was Carpenter, if not, he was involved, weather he had someone to do it, or was with the someone who did it, but definitely connected. And I still wouldn't rule out Sigrid may have been involved as well.

@dansmith6748

Жыл бұрын

One has to figure that, if it was a jealous husband or boyfriend, that they would have brought a weapon with them, knife, gun, baseball bat.. etc.. John Carpenter knew what was in the apartment.

@jayceew.rabbit9358

Жыл бұрын

@@dansmith6748 absolutely!

Bob Crane might have been considered a handsome man but even he can strike out as he done multiple times

He loved cameras and cameras loved him

I tend to believe a cornered wife or girlfriend was offered absolution if she agreed to be complicit in setting Crane up that evening, letting the fellow in during the night and departing with him after the vile deed.

@dreamingrightnow1174

2 жыл бұрын

I wondered that too. Jealous boyfriend. All the reasons this dude is giving for why it's Carpenter are pretty flimsy and the one thing that would have been convincing didn't pan out. Funny, he said even if the blood isn't Bob Cranes it doesn't matter that much, but they sure went to a lot of effort to test the blood. He's obviously trying to help the cops save face.

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

@@dreamingrightnow1174 They already dismissed why it couldn't have been a jealous boyfriend or husband. Crane was wearing boxers when he was killed in bed, and he only did that when someone else, like Carpenter, was in the same building as he slept in the nude otherwise. Plus there was no sign of forced entry, and the woman that Crane attempted to take back to his apartment was not interested, so she never went there. A second woman would have had to known where his apartment was to "lead their 'jealous' spouse there". AND Carpenter would not have bothered to ask Crane if he could stay there until Crane took him to the airport at 10 o'clock in the morning. Carpenter was the last person to see Crane alive because he was in the apartment with Crane, and would have seen Crane go to bed. Carpenter would have had to seen a woman and man come up to Crane's door and ask to be let in, and Carpenter said he was the only one with Crane in the apartment at that time, and I doubt he would've just let some random man and woman that he didn't know into Crane's apartment-- and the "jealous spouse" wouldn't have tried to kill Carpenter too to ensure no witnesses were left behind? That makes no sense. And again, there were no signs of forced entry through the front door, and camera equipment was blocking the only other way in. Had someone tried to break in through the back, they would've made noise tripping over camera equipment in the dark, and once again: Because Carpenter was there, even if he would have just let this mystery man kill Crane, you think the killer would be dumb enough to believe a plea of "I promise I won't squeal on you if you spare my life!"? No. Both men would have been killed, end of.

Filming woman without their consent? I can't help but think it came back to bite him...sadly carpenter was a creep and the police weren't equiped for homicide

@dreamingrightnow1174

2 жыл бұрын

They made a point of saying it was consensual. The equipment was taking up most of the room.

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

@@dreamingrightnow1174 It's debatable that it was _entirely_ "consensual", as Crane was still using the power of his stardom to convince women into those situations. He was definitely taking advantage of them wanting to spend time with an actor for his own personal pleasure while _they_ were probably hoping that it would lead to something more serious (a relationship and possibly marriage - maybe even starting a family). Plus since Crane would often pick up these women in bars or backstage and take them for drinks, it's not difficult to get someone to "consent" when they're under the influence of a mind-altering substance-- even if it is "just alcohol".

Could a scorned woman have killed him? I mean, he was sound asleep. A tripod really isn't too heavy.

@brainsareus

3 жыл бұрын

Lucha Libre mama

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

John Carpenter was the last person to see Crane alive. He came to ask Crane if he could stay at his apartment after both struck out with women, and then "left early" for his plane flight. Had it had been a second woman, Carpenter would have seen her, and it was never brought up.

The fact that a sample that is over 40 years old is inconclusive by no means exonerates John Carpenter. Of course blood that is over 40 years old is going to degrade. Carpenter had a brand new rental car. If it wasn't Crane's B positive blood (a rare blood type), I would love to know whose it was.

Carpenter Claims that when he called Cranes apartment and the police answered and said there was an incident there, that Carpenter asked "what happened,?, a robbery"?

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

Except no, because the first time he phone the apartment, Crane's former Hogan's Heroes co-star answered the phone, and when the police took the phone from her and explained to Carpenter that "There was an investigation going on", Carpenter did not ask what was going on or what had happened, and hung up. It wasn't until later that Carpenter called back saying that he was "willing to co-operate with the police" and "would do whatever he could to help", possibly as a way to seem less suspicious to police and perhaps throw them off his scent. *If* he did it - allegedly, conspiracy, whatever.

@MayorMcCheeseStalker

Жыл бұрын

@@cannibalisticrequiem You say, "Crane's former 'Hogan's Heroes' co-star answered the phone." This is incorrect. Victoria Berry never appeared on “Hogan’s Heroes.” She was co-starring with Crane in “Beginner’s Luck,” the stage play that Crane took on the road (touring the country) in the ‘70s.

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the lifestyle he chose cost him his family, career, and ultimately his life. I feel sorry for his children knowing what he really was.

@BrutusMcCrunch

Жыл бұрын

Nice your so morally superior. Douchebag.

@CelestialWoodway

Жыл бұрын

Maybe his wife was an asshole. He got remarried. His kids stayed in touch.

@MsZoedog66

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, living that sort of life and even filming it? Pretty off. I can imagine there would have been lots of fathers and husbands who would have been happy to see the back of him, not even mentioning the women who he preyed upon.

@LKre-vi5oq

8 ай бұрын

Lol, nope. But howdy, incels!!

@BlueCollarBeerSnob

4 ай бұрын

His first wife was very careful not to talk bad about him as they grew up…she seems like a decent person…his second wife is crazy…she had good reasons to be angry but knew what he was when they started the affair

While he was incredibly talented, his addictions and astonishing debauchery destroyed him. Along with John Carpenter. The crime scene was so violent and excessive that it suggests a personal fury like no other.

The dna revealed an Un known male if you want the bloody answer lol

@peterm1826

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@henryottis295

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you !! I didn't like being left up in the air after listening to the whole programme. That was shameful of them !

@terrycanales23

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe he (Carpenter) killed someone else also??

If Crane was killed "dead asleep" why was he tied up with electrical cords?

@jblue705

3 жыл бұрын

Things like that are done by the killer for a couple of reasons....to ensure the victim doesn’t survive, and also to humiliate the victim. It is a sign of extreme rage towards the victim, which is why law enforcement believed the killer was known to Bob Crane. He had to feel comfortable enough to let this individual inside his apartment AND to go to sleep while the person was still in there.

@BlueCollarBeerSnob

4 ай бұрын

Overkill is the term police use

Very interesting. I remember as a 18 year old at when my boss at work say, “Old Bob Crane was murdered.” Shame both went to their graves unrepentant

@brainsareus

3 жыл бұрын

you are a fool

@jayceew.rabbit9358

3 жыл бұрын

I was 18 when this happened also, my mom and aunt saw Bob Crane at a lounge theater play while they were on vacation but I do not remember where. My mom said they were so close to him they could of reached out and touched him, but no one was aloud to touch the actors.

@youtubebannedme4207

2 жыл бұрын

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Gods not real you only have yourself to answer to at the end of the day. If you are proud of yourself and the life you lived that's all that matters. Not the approval of a bunch of delusional religious morons.

@flhxri

2 жыл бұрын

@@youtubebannedme4207 you wish he did not exist

@dreamingrightnow1174

2 жыл бұрын

You don't seem that upset. You xtians always wallowing in your schadenfreude...

It was a rental car. It could have been left before he rented it.

@briannichols4807

3 жыл бұрын

Ordinarily that would be true , but from what I heard , that was a new car when John Carpenter rented it .

@debrak8521

3 жыл бұрын

S. S. Craddock It was a new car and one person had it before Carpenter and that person didn't bleed in the car.

Wow, Crane sounds like a real life "Barney Stinson"!

According to Scotty Crane JR it's a myth that Bob Crane and Patty Olson were divorcing at the time of Bob Crane's death. He said that his parents had gotten back together again. Scotty Crane Jr:" They had reconciled." According to Bob Crane Jr, the marriage problems began when Patty grew annoyed at Bob Crane's constant cheating (though at first she looked the other way).

One theory has it the killer gained entry to the apartment before Crane even returned home and was hiding in the spare room, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of it.

He didn't mention Bob Crane 's time on The Donna Reed Show, from early 1963 to 1965.

I've never understood why the killer took the tripod away with him, thus risking being seen with it and now having to dispose of it somewhere. If it was Carpenter, was he hoping nobody would notice a tripod was missing from the apartment and everybody might think a burglar had brought his own weapon with him?

I know of him.He was working in Hornell at WLEA.

No mention of the brain tissue photographed in the rental car.

@lorimiller4301

2 жыл бұрын

No way, that was huge. Heck I can still remember exactly what it looked like. It was graphic enough to see that it was brain matter. I thought that would have been the proof that John did it ?!!

Look up "Family Movies" on KZread for a collection of Crane footage. It includes something I never knew existed. Turns out Crane had the video camera running when ex-wife Patti and their son Scott made their unexpected visit to Crane's apartment. I almost fell out of my chair when I was suddenly seeing videotape of Crane alive and well in the middle of the crime scene we've all seen pictures of. Absolutely chilling to watch knowing Crane would be brutally beaten to death just ten days later in the bedroom just off camera to the right of the picture, and knowing that if the camera had been running that night it would have recorded his killer walking into frame and out the front door....

"A day without sex is a day wasted.". It has nothing to do with sunshine.

So sad😢😢😢😢😢

"A day without sex, is a day waisted"

Do everyone a favor don't buy the book go to the library and take it out

Bob Crane should hired a singer , perhaps female and toured with The Bob Crane Band . Something like The Dave Clark Five . It would have boosted his career.

why is there no mention of strangulation...the cord??

CARPENTER BRAINED BOB CRANE...

I don’t know why they don’t do a genetic or ancestral DNA on the blood found in the car to see who’s blood that is

Legend has it that when questioned by the Cops, each person replied "I see Nothing ! I know Nothing ? "

Bo b Crane was on WICC out of Bridgeport CT I lived until mid 60’s in BPT when in Dec of 65 my folks bought a house in Sandy Hook,yeh that Sandy Hook I went to that school from 2nd to 5th grade I remember whenCrane died i would have been20 at that time

far to many adds on this video

@MostNotorious

3 жыл бұрын

Yes there were. Fixed.

@jblue705

3 жыл бұрын

Get KZread Premium, dude. I haven’t seen an ad of any kind in over 3 years now.

@lorimiller4301

2 жыл бұрын

@@jblue705 I know right ? It's the best. I use to get so frustrated. Now I never even think about it. 🙂

The author sounds like he's on a speaker phone.

John Carpenter will have to be a master manipulator then because I find all of his story totally credible I mean Bob was known to run late all the time so he that when he didn't get there when he was supposed to be took a cab that's reasonable the only other thing is him calling Bob Crane Jr that's it and that could be explained by him figuring out since there was a detective there that some crime had happened so he calls his son to see if he needed anything in a way that's even reasonable

So were the movers claiming they saw a man exit the apartment *in* 1978?

Would somebody who read the book tell us about the ending this guy's just trying to sell books you should have told us the ending whose blood was found in the car

@aaronz7056

Жыл бұрын

They don't know whose blood it was, but it appears it was not Crane's!

I could see a woman committing this crime with the tripod but not a man furthermore why would he put the tripod on the passenger seat why not put it in the trunk of the car.

Ugh.... Read Bob Crane: The Definitive Biography.

@MostNotorious

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it's a great book. However this podcast is only about his murder - not his life.

@ElleCee62978

3 жыл бұрын

Most Notorious If he’s another one who is peddling the “his second wife did it” like his oldest son is, he’s full of it. Scottsdale PD had the right guy. John Carpenter killed Bob Crane. PS - Autofocus was not the true story.

@ElleCee62978

3 жыл бұрын

Enda Dorgan I sided with Patti (his wife aka Sigrid Valdis aka Hilda) and her son Scott. The movie was so far from the truth. Bob wasn’t into BDSM, he never had penile implants, there was no homosexual stuff with John. Bob was Into legal ladies who allowed them to photograph and/or film them. Also, Bob was in the process of getting help for his sex addiction when he was murdered.

@MostNotorious

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElleCee62978 You should give the episode a listen. There is no mention of his second wife as a suspect.

@ahnraemenkhera7451

3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff either way. How sad for his family that the investigation of the day yielded so little & nearly all the speculation was defamatory of Bob Crane’s memory. Despite any character flaws, he & the cast of the program always entertained artfully without harming us kids. -Hogan’s Heroes TV Friend

Sgt schultz saw everything. When interrogated schultz stated:” i know nothing!”

@Angel-tw3ko

3 жыл бұрын

Schultz was dead sadly

@aaronz7056

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how many people have made that joke over the years and seriously thought they were being clever and original...

@jonchaney

Жыл бұрын

Not me.

@jonchaney

Жыл бұрын

He would have laughed. You are free to not. Colonel clunk.

What was the name of the book? LOL!

Did carpenter have a polygraph test???

@debrak8521

3 жыл бұрын

John alucard Carpenter told police he was willing to take a lie detector test but for some reason the police didn't give him one. He still murdered Crane imo.

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

What does it matter? Everyone knows by now that a polygraph test can be easily duped into giving incorrect results. Just how dumb are you to _still_ believe they are a credible source for convicting criminals? It's 2022. Not 1992.

Spoiler alert, john carpenter killed jfk, lee oswald killed bob crane. As a ghost. On the grassy noll.

Disney is soooo respectable today. HAHAHAHA

This guy selling this book John is a Narcissistic car salesman.

To me this whole thing doesn't make sense why would he be in crane apartment after a heated conversation I heard they had a very civil conversation and we're slapping each other on the back and at the whole thing. The police were grasping at straws taking him to trial and the jury done the right thing they did not prove their case against him. They were looking for a conflict in any of the places they went to and they couldn't find a fight at any of them and crying might have been contemplating a change but he was quite happy having Carpenter around certainly so if crane would go to bed with Carpenter in the room

@sepirophswife1072

Жыл бұрын

Idk. Cranes son did say that his dad was planning to cut him out and even 2 days before they were arguing at a restaurant and ppl kill in a rage rhe whole time. Even I'd it wasn't carpenter who could it have been? It had to be someone John knew cuz otherwise how else would the person have gotten in when John was a light sleeper plus he apparently also usually locked his doors so if it was a stranger he let in there would have been a struggle and why would he go to sleep with a stranger in his house and leave himself vulnerable? and i sometimes think it could be a woman who was in his vids but he also apparently let the women know before he recorded and the tripod was visible it isnt like now where u can easily hide a camera so im sure the women would have known plus idk if a woman could kill a man with 2 blows plus women usually use less bloody means to kill like a hitman, a gun, poisoning etc so it kinda just leaves carpenter. Maybe when carpenter came Crane told him he was turning a new leaf or they argued and crane went to bed, thinking nothing of the argument but Carpenter was angry and husband anger simmered till he killed Crane then dipped.

It's one thing to refer back to the book as you explain the murder, that's expected, but lol, this author determines to begin each utterance with, ( drum roll ) MY book then the title, etc. Little bit of egotism, lol.... probably a decent read if you can get by the authors ego.

Creepy guy 🤪😜🙃

Carpenter did it. Simple case of jilted lover. It’s actually quite obvious.

I do remember he had a phone cord around his neck ! Plus beat in the head and shot I think 🤔, not sure? RIP Bob Crane! John Carpenter Killed Crane! He Has Been The Only One Who New Him, And Going To See Crane! He was hanging around him, so the cops 👮‍♀️ should of checked him out, over n over !!!

@helmutsecke3529

2 жыл бұрын

… should ‘have’…

I believe his second wife killed bob. As he was sleeping

"bedding down girls"? what a hokey; archaic expression, Mr. Hook..

@terrycanales23

3 жыл бұрын

Crane was a hokey archaic person

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

He works for FOX News. What do you expect?

Kinda makes me wonder if Richard Dawson felt strongly enough to kill

@lorimiller4301

2 жыл бұрын

Richard was a lover not a fighter.

@reythejediladyviajakku6078

2 жыл бұрын

@Piscesempress my money’s on both wives. The guy was continually screwing around on them so they did have motive and a strong motive for that matter

@cannibalisticrequiem

Жыл бұрын

@@reythejediladyviajakku6078 No.

@nicholasjanke3476

5 ай бұрын

@@reythejediladyviajakku6078 his second wife especially had a motive: Bob Crane was about to inherit millions in profits and residuals from his tv work. In the event of his death, Patty stood to inherit ALL the money, thus-according to Bob Crane JR-gave Patty a perfect motive!

@cindy-followerofjesuschris6572

5 ай бұрын

No way did either wife do this.​@@nicholasjanke3476

I Don't trust this author. He's not a constructive thinker. He's not on the up and up. Too many faults in his interview. Glaring stuff like the boxer shorts means he didn't have a girl in bed with him. That's ridiculous any lawyer would eat that logic up...and forcing this narrative that's what pathological liars do. I also question him..😊phrasing he uses...the awkward laughs... he doesn't sound like a family man. I don't trust the author he did the biggest injustice by using up all the blood. I find that way too convenient . RULE #1number one ...Don't trust people that take and forever dispose of the main evidence. Shady author. That should be against the law. Dumb stuff like the tripod is missing.....what about the camera on the tripod? Was that missing? Ever hear of finger prints? That was around in the late 70's right. Based on nothing I think a girl did a video and regretted it either by crane showing it around or by word getting out he's showing it around. I'm assuming also the two wife's easily could have done this. Themselves or through hired friends or paid associates. Not for nothing the girl that found him would be my first big interrogation. She's absolutely stunning...her story makes zero sense. I don't trust her she's involved somehow...😮 you don't have that many lies and expect anyone to believe you. She thought crane was a woman, she by passed blood all over the walls and the very door knob she used to get in..... somehow without a key... liar that's all BS. She some part of something. A guy would have confronted crane (awake) unless the guy caught him with his wife. Key take sways How issues were not addressed. Why was the blood exhausted leaving no more to evaluate? That's bad detective work. It was obviously a woman Crane was sleeping with. Boxer on proves nothing. Silly to have that detail. or trying to sleep with. This notion of carpenter just going to hangout is non-sense. I don't believe the son either. Hundred of reason he wouldn't like the life his dad was leading he's my 2nd suspect. Anyone ever read "Death of a Salesman"??? I conclude the Scottsdale police absolutely know who did this. Author says "crane not one to ..." that's a complete lie. You can't predict other peoples reasoning it's silly to state that logic. Author is hiding something. Or MANY something's. Zero trust in this documentary it's too staged. Something is way off

How many times did this guy, the writer, mention by NAME, THE book that he wrote? I am counting x 24 !! I mean this is totally just a book plug and little more. Disgusting. 📚 M. Elgin Illinois.