Thank you for all the amazing comments throughout this series!! Reading your reactions, feedback and (undefeated) jokes was one of the highlights of my week over the last few months. So...how do you feel about differentiating between these all-time greats? What would your top-10 look like?

@cdmacd

3 жыл бұрын

Well done. This series is a KZread masterpiece

@dask5687

3 жыл бұрын

Do you edit all your videos? Including the hilarious but incredible drawings?

@perryquijano6749

3 жыл бұрын

Just a masterpiece

@TheOnlyRizzy

3 жыл бұрын

No Kobe in top 10 😢

@AX5Terminator

3 жыл бұрын

Jordan is freaken Thanos with all 6 infinity stones: 1) Mind - Killer Mentality 2) Power - Explosive First Step 3) Reality - Control and Mastery of the Ball 4) Soul - Unmatched Artistry 5) Space - Created with his Amazing footwork 6) Time - Hang Time! All held by his gauntlet size hands!

Jokic just sliding in during the Shaq segment is so funny

@minecraftowypolak

3 жыл бұрын

skinny/sneaky jokic

@toteispoe4

3 жыл бұрын

Got to think he's going to have a very high spot on this list when it's all said and done. Most offensively skilled center ever with sneaky decent defense. Doncic for sure will be on here, too. Playmaking is a powerful thing.

@vauneoso3292

3 жыл бұрын

MVP!!!

@clevisbernier8973

3 жыл бұрын

@@toteispoe4 I think he's already a top 20 Center probably.

@toteispoe4

3 жыл бұрын

@@clevisbernier8973 Definitely, not probably :)

Thinking basketball is at the greatest peak for basketball KZreadrs

@acpliego

3 жыл бұрын

The GOAT without a doubt

@luketanner5419

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Thanos

@ahmedadem2227

3 жыл бұрын

clayton crowley and thinking basketball must be going through the worst backpain, the way they're carrying basketball on youtube lmao

@0401412740

3 жыл бұрын

Coach Daniel was good too until he was recruited by Dallas Mavericks

@conorskurk-dawgg2947

3 жыл бұрын

For real. Makes you recognize just how horrible the "analysts" on ESPN are.

This was the greatest series of basketball videos ever on youtube. The greatest peak

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

And it's not even close

@TheSands83

3 жыл бұрын

😂no it’s not

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSands83 Yes it is casual, and you're saying it's not literally just because Ben addressed both the flaws and positives of Jordan. Which is especially embarassing considering that Ben still has MJ in the literal top echelon.

@SilentSneakman

3 жыл бұрын

Making The Case by Crayton Crowley is 100x better than this.

@TheSands83

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentSneakman yeah this is awful

Jokic sliding in during the Shaq segment hits even more after this 2021-23 stretch he produced

@amazintr3266

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking this after I saw it 😭😭

Jordan’s weakness being a “gambler” was smooth as fuck

@Max-kv8uw

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it fits perfectly on and off the court.

@t4d0W

3 жыл бұрын

I mean when you a gawd at basketball, you find other things to try dabble as a mortal human being like baseball, golf or gambling. Well golf is a popular crossover hobby that many athletes partake in.

@ireplytostupidpeople4750

3 жыл бұрын

@@t4d0W I know it's a joke but it's cringe to refer a person as "above mortal" 🤢

@epictubegamer

3 жыл бұрын

@@t4d0W “jOrDan Is A gOd”

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@t4d0W No need to insert a cult of personality defense when there wasn't any criticism to Jordan to begin with.

"Typical All-NBA players" said almost as an insult. Really puts in perspective how over the top insanely good these guys are.

@Noin007

3 жыл бұрын

@Todd Lerfahndler That, on top of the fact that the small team size means that 1 player can have a much larger impact. As well as the fact that NBA players all play both ends of the court, immediately making 1 great player so wildly important. NBA: 15 MLB: 26 NFL: 55

@legoboyfan123456789

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noin007 forgot NHL which is 18 + 2 tendies and NLL which is 19 + 2

@josesalazar7556

2 жыл бұрын

@Trade Bum Simmons nowadays it's thrown around too loosely, you've got like 20 guys being called Superstars lol

@joweebird1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@josesalazar7556 because unlike what biased media analytics like barkley, shaq, reggie and etc... say, there are more better players today than before. Just look at the east 9th seed and 10th seed has all star calibre players(taytum and trae young). Same as in the west(lbj and lillard). Mind you those are 9th and 10th seed respectively of each conferenced and already have 4 all stars between them.

@the757general2

Жыл бұрын

@@Noin007 NFL is 53 not counting practice squad players

The fact that Kareem was good enough to have the 6th greatest peak ever between the age of 30-33 as a Center is insane.

@kingofallmen1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Nobody is close to him in total scoring.

@peterpan3022

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingofallmen1 wdym? lebron will pass him next year in total points scored and has already passed him if you include playoff points. and mj has the bigger ppg by quite a bit. so in what world does noone come close to him in scoring?

@jayanthan4882

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe he was in his prime in the aba when he was in physical peak.

@alessandropozzi2214

Жыл бұрын

lebron at 31-34 with cleveland even better, but we take lebron so much for granted that we don't even notice

@reimixo

Жыл бұрын

That wasnt his peak tho

As a graduate student in Psychology who LOVES basketball, I feel this is the *only* channel that does justice to the GOAT and Mount Rushmore debates and that provides critical analyses of basketball that isn't couched in sensationalism and uni-dimensionalism.

@conflictedpersonnage6276

3 жыл бұрын

Just for the culture, what type of work do you do?

@mrr1491

3 жыл бұрын

@@conflictedpersonnage6276 Primarily work with Psychosis and Substance Use. Mainly from a liberation perspective, which views society and its constraints and labels as the primary issues driving illness and distress rather than biology. How bout you?!

@conflictedpersonnage6276

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrr1491 That’s actually really interesting. Well I’m still in middle school so I don’t have job yet.

@mrr1491

3 жыл бұрын

@@conflictedpersonnage6276 Ahh I see! go get it in school! Then go out there and make a difference in this world.

@mattdotts

2 жыл бұрын

Basketball is a fascinating game of superhuman athletes and I'm glad you appreciate it!

Ben, we need a Joker video asap and how his season stacks up against other bigs. Can't wait till the season ends

@Katsos44

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve watched his playoff Jokic video about a thousand times, the 3-1 comeback nuggets will live in my heart forever right next to the we believe warriors super jam Seattle teams

@RLSmith-jt8qj

3 жыл бұрын

Like for real

@othmanhawasly

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Seriously, one about Joker and another about Luka, ASAP PLEASE ❤

@mskomu

3 жыл бұрын

But we don't even know if Jokic has even played any of his top 3 seasons. It's not like he's showing any symptoms of not continuing to improve and he's 26.

@doyouseestroberries

3 жыл бұрын

@@mskomu He's seemingly getting more athletic with age, as his body improves. Add in the improvement of getting to the line more as he gets more respect/smarter with drawing shooting fouls, and Jokic could very well force his way into top 5 peak territory.

You were really killing me with that Jordan&LeBron switching

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

They really are closer than most fans are willing to admit. Very different players but truly the only two who should be considered the greatest of all time.

@snazzrazzmazzlejazz8974

3 жыл бұрын

@@geordiejones5618 reject Bron and Jordan, embrace Tim Duncan.

@brrr3301

3 жыл бұрын

@@snazzrazzmazzlejazz8974 why not embrace all of them?

@nicolocadamuro9988

3 жыл бұрын

They are on a tier on their own

@ImbetterthanDWade

3 жыл бұрын

Lebron couldn’t even guard me. Of course, he isn’t better than Jordan lol

Seeing those on/off splits for Green (Im Assuming Draymond) and Ginobili makes me want a breakdown video for each player. Those stretches are absolutely insane. You could argue that those splits showcase their claim as two of the greatest supporting stars of all time.

Olajuwon was the first name I thought about when I saw the title would be focusing on best at peak. That guy was always good but off the charts on both ends of the court in the mid-90s. I've never seen center play at a higher level than he did at his peak, and it was against absurdly strong competition in an era of tough, physical defense and top tier centers.

@HiNRGboy

Жыл бұрын

Wilt had the most insane Center play ever, you just never saw it lol

@Blank9458

Жыл бұрын

@@HiNRGboy yea that’s what he said

@planetpoog

9 ай бұрын

best defender ever😤

@ME-yo4op

8 ай бұрын

@@HiNRGboyactually I did and dream was better, Wilt was amazingly talented and great but he had lesser talent that he competed against. The 60s only fielded 9 teams for the most past and the average starting center was 6’10 and change. There was one real challenge to Wilt and he was 6’9, dream was smaller than most centers and these were all good to plus athletes and dream was still head and shoulders above. Sorry but it’s not Wilt.

@HiNRGboy

8 ай бұрын

@@ME-yo4op Wilt is my GOAT..Just my opinion buddy, love me some Dream regardless. You can't go wrong picking any of them. I would've chosen Hakeem over Jordan just like the Rockets did.

I think we all knew what the top 2 would be when everyone else on the list had a ceiling of 3rd place.

@user-bw6pt9dy6f

3 жыл бұрын

i also knew Shaq would definitely be either 3rd or 4rd

@TheCloud175

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it was ever in question, cutting it at 1977 hurt Kareem's chances of top 2, and there's no one else who has a good argument other than LeBron or MJ.

@davidolinger3948

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCloud175 yeah, I'm actually a huge believer in how incredible young kareem was, but mj and lebron are no doubt the best 2 in this time frame

@Alphadestrious

3 жыл бұрын

No kobe?!

@StefveoX

3 жыл бұрын

You mean a roof?

this man doesn’t miss. best youtube basketball channel peak of all time without a doubt.

@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5

3 жыл бұрын

LEGOAT SHOULD BE NUMBER 1 AND BUMJ AND CURFRAUD SHOULDNT BE IN THE TOP 10

@ciaranboland439

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 get hit with this fat ass ratio my guy

@koolkai4299

3 жыл бұрын

Thinking basketball is not GOSPEL

@K_low_7

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 lol

@_kubahhh

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 your on the wrong app bud, take that shit back to Twitter😂

25:00 The fact that Jordan and LeBron are so far ahead of all other all time great players in their peaks shows how special they really are

@Akashic85

Жыл бұрын

Wait how are their top 3 voted more than their vote share

@Herv3

Жыл бұрын

Just remember that Lew Alcindor - AKA Kareem Abdul Jabbar - of his Milwaukee Years would probably have a peak as high as those two.

@Herv3

Жыл бұрын

@@JMV0711 that's a lie

@Herv3

Жыл бұрын

@@JMV0711 dude, you ain't fooling anyone.

@loydkline

Жыл бұрын

Michael Jordan own nba basketball 🏀 1980s & 1990s

This is one of the greatest series in all KZread history. So much thorough work and dedication, and I just want you to know that we appreciate it very much. Thank you @ Thinking Basketball

My life is complete. I can die now

@JarvisN

3 жыл бұрын

No

@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5

3 жыл бұрын

LEGOAT BETTER BE 1

@joshuasamuel2274

3 жыл бұрын

I still have to finish one piece

@exiege

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t

@austin5944

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 are you just a bronsexual bot or a delusional fan. 6 for 6.

It was just me that got nervous in the top 2?? man fenomenal series thanks man you are amazing

@ThinkingBasketball

3 жыл бұрын

No, I too got nervous in the top 2. 😂

@nandylast1314

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThinkingBasketball I saw every player's peak maxing out to 3 and not 2, and that's when the hype started building for the Jordan and LeBron debate for me

@nandylast1314

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone got nervous in the top 2, especially Jordan and LeBron fans.

@sexyshadowcat7

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThinkingBasketball You would have been roasted if you hadn't put Jordan #1 and then he would have challenged you and dunked on you.

@MatteoRuberto

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThinkingBasketball I mean, it could have become personal..

This is the first time I've ever commented on a KZread video, but this series was just so astoundingly brilliant and thought provoking that I had to let you know. Thank you, Ben.

I would like to take the time and comment on the level of production this series carried through the weeks. I was eager to watch every single one of these as they rolled out making sure I had enough time to digest all the amazing stats and facts from each peak. Simply amazing work from the perspective of the stat gathering and the thesis of who had the best peak. Simply Brilliant and worthy of an award for sports broadcasting. ESPN or NBA TV would be pushing this series so hard if they made this level of quality work! Thank you for making this and I am looking forward to more videos and books in the future!

"Impact relative to era" pretty much guarantees Jordan's place at number one.

@libraalibaba

3 жыл бұрын

Most definitely

@mjg6233

3 жыл бұрын

No

@leultrainstinct406

3 жыл бұрын

As the greatest peak? Then yea I guess. But like Ben said, it’s really really close.

@claudiojr.bellin496

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, Richard!

@myasswithacherryontop1902

2 жыл бұрын

Richard!

Olajuwon top 5 is all I needed to see. Good job on the ratings

@bolt7047

2 жыл бұрын

He's really underrated, but am glad hardcore fans like us can appreciate how good he was

@mixedpleasure4324

2 жыл бұрын

you have to remember Wilt and other from before 77 was not in this video and Wilt was better then Olajuwon

@siya2195

2 жыл бұрын

Mixed pleasure no bro Wilt under played underplayed the playoff and people don't know .hakeem would never have Hakeem>Wilt

@mixedpleasure4324

2 жыл бұрын

@@siya2195 Wilt was a two time champion just like Hakeem so what are you talking about and Wilt average way more point twice as many rebounds and almost twice as many assist with a better FG% and Wilt has 4 mvps and average over 50 pint and over 44 point and 38 and 36 and 37 with a 48 vertical like Mj.. Wilt was arguable the best player ever only Mj is surely better imo but Wilt could easily go as high as number 2. Hakeem doesnt do anything better then Wilt so just cut it out

@siya2195

2 жыл бұрын

@@mixedpleasure4324 Bra the the chainpainships he won were when he wasn't averaging record breaking numbers in the first one he was a 21 ppg scorer and the 2nd he was a 14 ppg in the playoffs and as I said there were many times in the play-offs were Wilt had a chance to beat the Celtics and Russel but he didn't have his record breaking averages (he underplayed) and got beaten many ,many times and only won when he wasn't avenging those numbers. Lastly Wilt is still an alltime great but people get lost in stats and records but we have to realize that you can avenge 50 if your taking 39.5 shots a game Hakeem > Wilt

recently had this series pop up in my KZread feed, never seen your channel before. I watched about 1/3 of them and this one, this is amazing content. as someone who only really watches playoff basketball and some hawks games it's been really interesting to hear what made all these players so great from someone who knows way more about basketball than me or my friends lol

Just discovered this channel 1st week April 2023. I respect the research and insight. It has been fun watching !

I'm just happy that Steph Curry gets his respect

@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5

3 жыл бұрын

Lurry shouldnt be top 100

@xenopanda1

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 ZaMickey acting like his low-quality videos :)

@edwardtimothy3581

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@scoots2085

3 жыл бұрын

@joceja23 what

@alliesstartedww1308

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 you clearly have bo basketball knowledge lmfao

Thank you so much for making this. This series has been the greatest sports analysis content I've ever seen.

It is irrefutable-you are the GOAT of analysis! While allowing for personal perspectives that may differ, you quantify a solid case for each ranking through thorough consideration. This is a model for how these kinds of discussions ought to be carried out, thank you and the team for all your work on this!

The fact that you can separate 3 different stretches that would end up on the list for Jordan and LeBron each just shows how dominant they really are/were. GOATs no doubt

@kaimarquez8046

2 жыл бұрын

When is this shown in the video?

@charlesfowler4308

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaimarquez8046 at 21:27 they show 8 Jordan playoffs, using the 3 year peak system that's 3 peaks (2.66 for the pedants). While at 22:07 They show 3 sets of LeBron peaks and 2 Jordan sets.

@mbok29915

Жыл бұрын

half of the greatest peaks in history belonging to two players, they indeed are in a different stratosphere

@Xanninja

Жыл бұрын

@@mbok29915 Been saying this. 💯💯 even if you don't prefer either player, no debating their spots.

@Mercurial.

Жыл бұрын

So how does Lebron has 3 peaks when he STILL has a LOSING RECORD and lost the most of all time for an MVP again 🤔

This was so good. I think we all appreciate this series so much🙏🏼 Thank you Ben!

@ThinkingBasketball

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support!

Amazing series! Thanks for putting this together. I wish sports shows were this deep. Their level of analysis is, "if you score more points than the other team, you'll probably win."

a weird detail to point out but: i love these thumbnails SO much. its so hard to find a balance between what works for the algorithm while making something that looks genuinely pretty. the graphic designer behind them deserves so much credit, as they are what drew most of us into these videos!

I already knew D-Wade and Dirk were goated. Can’t wait for a future series on them

@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5

3 жыл бұрын

LEGOAT CARRIED WADE AND OWNS DIRK

@Thanosdidtherighthing

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 2011 Finals 🌝

@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thanosdidtherighthing DIRK CHEATED

@snazzrazzmazzlejazz8974

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 Hold the hell up. People really say whatever the hell comes to mind now, huh.

@cia6520

3 жыл бұрын

@@snazzrazzmazzlejazz8974 cmon man he is being funny

Damn LeBron James and Mike so damn close too. Basically coming down to team construction.

@supremegoesviral9922

3 жыл бұрын

It’s as close as u think, his analysis is just straight up wrong.

@jamesbullock4316

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremegoesviral9922 oh cool where is ur youtube channel where people care ab ur opinion

@aaronantwi9164

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremegoesviral9922 why don’t you tell us how genius?

@marquisdaniels8371

3 жыл бұрын

Of course Michael Jordan is the 2nd greatest player of all time behind me

@josephhanicak7922

3 жыл бұрын

@@marquisdaniels8371 What about Lavar Ball?

Great series, fantastic work Ben! However you might work it in, I'd be really interested to see something on Charles Barkley. He was such a unique, unconventionally dominant player in his own way, it would be cool to see your perspective on him.

The Greatest basketball series on KZread came to an end. Sad to see it go but thank you very much for these videos. I'm going to refer to them for the rest of my life probably, when contemplating about some of these players. Would love to see something similar in the future with the guys that just missed out on this list, such as Chuck and DWade!

1:16 there is a graphical area when you say what years the criteria fall into (graphic says 1997-2020)

@TheBest-gf8qo

3 жыл бұрын

He meant 1977 I think

@ThinkingBasketball

3 жыл бұрын

Nice catch! That's my subconscious wishing the ABA existed until 1997.

@TheBest-gf8qo

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThinkingBasketball While we're on the topic, could you make a series about the forgotten stars of the ABA and their placement amongst the basketball greats? Love this series btw

@davidolinger3948

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBest-gf8qo man I miss ABA dr j, he was rediculous

@hmmBEEFY

3 жыл бұрын

Glad someone else caught that

That final race for the first place was way dramatic, well done Ben

This is perhaps my favorite youtube series ever! Extremely well done, dude!

Great series! I would love it if you went back and did some Stat dives on those earlier players you mentioned. Oscar R, West, Havlicek, and revisiting Russel and Wilt with their own videos. 👍

Why the f*** am I crying like this is the end of Friends or something?! Fantastic series 😭

@yungluluu

3 жыл бұрын

I swear bro 😂😂😂😂😂

@YoungPhenix

3 жыл бұрын

Same bub

@bobbyjankins3796

3 жыл бұрын

i feel you man when the outro came on i felt like i just finished a long journey

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

It seems like yesterday that I was watching the YT announcement video and started waiting lol Or the Wilt vs Bill precursor video. Wow!

@jonathanoka7866

3 жыл бұрын

Probably bc u watch friends lol

You legitimately deserve a job at ESPN or some major sports network with this intensive and accurate basketball analysis. It’s just so good

@daltongiddings2771

3 жыл бұрын

We just lost Coach Daniel, please let me get through that before we lose Ben too 😂

@mskomu

3 жыл бұрын

Masses are not interested in truth. They are interested in stories instead. Read the news or follow pro sport "analysts". It's about stories and narratives, because those sell. I hate to day it, but Thinking Basketball is a niche thing. It will never attract the majority, but it's so great that all the niche followers root for it.

@kingz5493

3 жыл бұрын

@@mskomu Yeah Idk about that it could be easily marketable I mean he gets hella views anyway the problem is the live cable tv format he’d actually be great having a tv show like series.

@bcyost1908

3 жыл бұрын

Ben is way too good for ESPN.

@adamjohnson1966

3 жыл бұрын

@@mskomu well said and unfortunately true

this series was absolutely incredible, thank you !!

These videos are incredibly details. Wow thank you!

Without doubt this series challenged my own preconceptions and furthered my ability to analyse players on what is/is not valuable. That's what this is all about, it's not about who's number one and who's number 6, that's your choice, it's about the process of making the choice and you explained that process perfectly. Thanks for such wonderful content and I really hope this channel keeps moving forward and the content keeps flowing 👍

I'll watch this when I can relax and watch it

@okeythegoat2332

3 жыл бұрын

Fr

@mydogsnameislucy768

3 жыл бұрын

Facts. Imma just see the top spot right now. Lol

@johnsmith1474

3 жыл бұрын

Like anyone gives a shit ...

@fw9512

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith1474 what’s wrong with you

@KyleNamiteVlogs

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith1474 oh god a stereotypical mean white man 😂😂😂

I'm so happy that I found this channel, thank you so much for all the insight and research you've done.

Truly amazing series, taking into account all those variables really makes the picture more clear

That Jokic cameo is perfect hahaha

This is seriously my favourite KZread series ever. You deserve way more subscribers. Props to the whole team, keep up the excellent work!

I have loved most of your work (I say most, 'cause I haven't watched ALL of your videos), but this was my favorite series yet. I truly hope for another 3 or 4 volumes of this series. Thanks a bunch. Good stuff.

This series contains some of the most impressive content I’ve ever seen. As a teacher, it has an amazing balance of content and explanation that makes sure viewers don’t get lost. It would be hard to make one of these videos, let alone sixteen. Thank you, Thinking Basketball Team!

Ben, your attention at minimizing biases is charming. Love your work, this series was a bliss.

This was one hell of a series, best basketball content on KZread for sure.

As well curated and beautifully carried out series as you can find on youtube. Truly great

A terrific series of videos. I loved every minute of these videos. Thank you, and I'm looking forward to what you do next.

Well...that was just phenomenal. Great work Ben, we all appreciate the insane amount of work that's clearly gone into this series. I'm looking forward to your next project.

JordanHeads: "He had us in the first half not gonna lie"

@chrischen5048

3 жыл бұрын

@You mad Bro!? The thing about LeBron (for me) isn't so much the choking job in 2011. The thing is a lot of players choke, and that sucks, but it's really LeBron's lack of consistent winning that takes away his shine. It's one thing to be the greatest floor raiser of all time, but it doesn't matter how much you raise the floor if you're not winning championships. Moreover, I know LeBron is catching up in terms of his championships, but I do think his longevity (also important) is a factor. I don't think very many players have the opportunity to play at their peak for as long as LeBron has (not sure if that should be attributed to him or science) and that skews things (though I'd give it to Lebron though). If Jordan was Jordan, but without the titles, we wouldn't even come close to seeing him in the same light.

@ObnoxiousOtter8

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Chen man you really saying that you’re disappointed in Brin for not winning with Matthew delly and an aged Kyle korver in a finals starting 5 against prime super team warriors? Come on now.

@ObnoxiousOtter8

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Chen didn’t mean for it to come off as stupid as it reads btw, it was a good and well thought take.

@leultrainstinct406

3 жыл бұрын

@You mad Bro!? top two, no lower than that. As much as you hate him, you can’t deny that they’re sitting at the top of the mountain and everyone is below them. Eh, the generic reason lol. Sure you have 2011, but you also have 2016 which was the greatest finals performance of all time against the 2nd greatest team ever. That performance alone should’ve completely scrubbed away 2011.

@leultrainstinct406

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrischen5048 tons of players who played in this era don’t have primes nearly as long as Lebron, so it’s a lot more than just science(Kobe, wade, Vince, Carmelo, etc.) Science alone isn’t enough to make a 36 year old man in his 18th season the best player in the world. That’s just greatness at that point. To your championship point, you have to think about the context. 2007, he took a team of scrubs to the finals against the spurs dynasty. 2014 he was against the spurs dynasty again but wade and bosh were too injured to show up. 2015, he was up against a 67 win team alone with role players as support. 2017 he had a great team but KD just made things unfair. 2018 he had an even worse team then before, STILL dragged them to the finals, but was against the 73-9 warriors+KD. So only 2011 is his fault, and the fact he can carry teams like nobody else in history is a testament to his greatness, and why he’s called the best floor raiser ever.

I love this channel so much. Just fair, detailed, analysis with good graphics and even better stats (and with context!)

@Mercurial.

Жыл бұрын

Fair detailed? How?

Great series so detailed and interesting and has increased my knowledge of basketball greatly and had shown my yet value of certain players i undervalued keep up the great work

one thing i appreciate about you listing the top 10 peaks is you acknowledging that the order isn't set in stone and can vary depending on how you optimistically view them, like some players being listed around the lower 6-10 range but can be bumped up as high as 3. ie, it's not a contest; these guys are all really good, and it's tough to definitely tier them.

@elroz1675

3 жыл бұрын

exactly. many overlooked that factor.

@Arthur5000

3 жыл бұрын

True

This is definitely the greatest basketball series of all time.

@leultrainstinct406

3 жыл бұрын

It’s up there with “making the case”

Thank you so much! I was waiting for the videos to come out! I really appreciate all the hard work. It was the greatest youtube series I have ever seen probably.

Dude, very in depth analysis. THANK YOU

I appreciate, the amount of work that goes into these videos. Thank you for thinking basketball, not just reacting to it.

Loved this series! Can’t wait to see what’s next!!! I think I’m going to rewatch them because it just was so much fun.

This was so entertaining and enjoyable, it was also a basketball learning experience. Thank you!

Absolutely phenomenal work, Ben. This was simply excellent.

I wish most NBA fans knew that there are no time machines :(

@scordatura9259

3 жыл бұрын

Fr man it's so annoying. Like jordan fans say lebron would die in the 90s with that soft flopping. While lebron fans would say that mj wouldn't be able to face the modern nba with the three point shot and his inefficient latter years. While the truth is it's impossible to know what the players will be at each era since well they're humans and can adapt and change according to the style of basketball being played

@tchalla7828

3 жыл бұрын

@@scordatura9259 that’s why you should only judge them by how well they dominated their respective eras.

@iLawfGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@tchalla7828 except lebron didn't dominate his era. He only dominated his conference. So even with those standards MJ is still more dominant and the better player.

@MrReverseOreo

3 жыл бұрын

@@iLawfGaming Are you just going to different comments to place MJ over Lebron?

@lik7953

3 жыл бұрын

@@iLawfGaming He did dominate his era. Look at the stats. This series isn’t about championships or rings or MVP’s. It’s about impact metrics. And Jordan and Lebron are neck and neck in them

I loved this series. You really make the game more fun to watch for me. I hope you can do a series on single year peaks i.e. 94 Pippen, 03 T-mac, 09 Wade etc.

@aaanawaleh

11 ай бұрын

Its interesting how those single year peaks weren't in their championship winning seasons.

@zotanica

11 ай бұрын

​@@aaanawalehpeaks usually occur when they take a lot of the offensive load(=less help, less championship aspirations)

Fantastic series, one of the best I've ever seen on KZread

Congratulations on an amazing series. 77k views is disrespectful to such an accurate, detailed, and well put together finale.

By God, i wasn't ready for that face reveal at the end. I expected a slightly nerdier image lol. Nice hair Ben 👌🏾😁

@crablord7934

3 жыл бұрын

His face was already on his book lol

@WhelmedButReady

3 жыл бұрын

@@crablord7934 I never read the book or seen anything else besides what's on this channel. He was a headless mystery LMAO

@crablord7934

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhelmedButReady You can pick it up if you want to, though it's really more for hardcore analytics enthusiasts.

@ThinkingBasketball

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I can be nerdier!

@samhartje723

3 жыл бұрын

Where is the reveal at?

one day we need a breakdown for chris paul from you brother

Would love to see a series or even just a couple videos on those who just missed out on this series. (Wade, Dirk, Nash, AI, etc)

I have to say, this is the BEST basketball analysis series!!!! and it's so much more knowledgable than those from ESPN. this is real substance! THANK YOU

Oh man is he making the KG argument!? OH MY GOD HE'S DOING IT! YES! YES! I LOVE YOU! THE STATE OF MINNESOTA LOVES YOU! YOU ARE WELCOME IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD, YOU GET FREE HOTDISH FOR LIFE, AAAAAAAA!!!!

@bcyost1908

3 жыл бұрын

As a minnesotan, I liked this because of your use of hotdish.

@gamemeister27

3 жыл бұрын

@@bcyost1908 I'm a native after all

@moaden9553

3 жыл бұрын

No cap lol 😂 😂😂😂

Thank you so much for this series! Do you think you'd ever do a "greatest teams" series as well?

one of the greatest series iver ever seen. loved seeing you r insight and knowledge about basktball. keep up the grat work

Love the content Ben, this series is one of if not the best basketball analytical series ever!! Since you didn’t do a Dirk Nowitzki video for this series could you do a video on the best title runs of all time ?

*Brb gotta rewatch this series all over again.*

KG is the most underrated player of all time because he was on the Wolves

@kingdinodragonite3470

3 жыл бұрын

Facts. It’s still disgusting how Lakers fans taunt me that I said KG was better than Kobe smh.

@a-a-rondavis9438

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingdinodragonite3470 he ain't better than Kobe, but is RIGHT there in the mix of greatest PF's of all-time. Skill-wise, I think so.

@kingdinodragonite3470

3 жыл бұрын

@@a-a-rondavis9438 you would not say that if Kobe was on the hornets and the Wolves didn’t fuck up with that bullshit scandal that costed them 5 first round draft picks.

@allanhouston6759

3 жыл бұрын

KG is overrated.

@FuShengAlex

3 жыл бұрын

@@allanhouston6759 wow....finally a comment from you I can agree with 😆

Really fantastic series. This channel stands out in a strong and competitive NBA KZread landscape. A cut above!

This is by far the best channel on social media. Salute to you brother.

This is some of the greatest basketball break down ever love the channel🖤

Awesome series! I was just wondering where you think bill russell, wilt and other greats before 1977 would stack up. Such an awesome series. And a great finale. The whole time I was nervous knowing this would determine my opinion on the Lebron vs Jordan debate lol and it was obvious those 2 spots were for them. I'm also curious if you could someday make a series or video on what you think great pairings of superstars that never happened would have been based on their playstyle. I think it would be fun.

Your analysis videos are insightful and immensely entertaining for basketball fans. Thank you. I'm subbed. Keep them coming.

Phenomenal series, watched every episode great stuff!!!

accompanying this really made me feel eager to learn more and more about basketball, and with this series completed, I even feel like I've been part of something. That is awesome content, thanks very much Ben

I will miss this series. I bought the book because of the first episode! It’s obvious Ben puts everything into what he does. His analysis’s are the highest quality, not just on KZread but anywhere period. He deserves more credit. Love the podcast too! Literally cannot get enough.

@legamingchair6632

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

Loved this series...keep making such videos

Ur low end is top 3 basketball youtube channel easily. Just amazing work

I died when Joker sneaked when u talked about Shaqs all time offense 😂😂 :D btw make a video about Joker, he is probably having the GOAT offensive season for any center this year

@TheBronzeBomber38

2 жыл бұрын

🌝Shaq’s scoring, foul drawing and offensive rebounding shits on Jokic’s 🌝

@enzorossi9853

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBronzeBomber38 Jokic passing, spacing, shooting and playmaking shit on shaq

@TheBronzeBomber38

2 жыл бұрын

@@enzorossi9853 Get back to me when Jokic can average at least one block per game lol

@LeksoS

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBronzeBomber38 irrelevant how many blocks Jokic has as he has more steals and assists. You’re just trapped in an outdated mode of thinking

@TheBronzeBomber38

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeksoS It’s hard to go deep in the playoffs if your center can’t protect the rim. The opposing team can just walk in the paint without any fear of having their shot altered. Jokic is still a beast though on offense no doubt

These videos are the best part of my week

@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5

3 жыл бұрын

NO THEY SUCK HE DISRESPECTS LEGOAT

@matthewbodony4000

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 I hope you’re joking ( doesn’t even matter if you think Lebron’s the goat, these are high effort extremely high quality videos using stats and numbers to provide information to the viewer).

@acpliego

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamitlegoatis10-0inmybooks5 como on fanboy. LeBron is questionably tied at 1. Let’s analyze, why do you think he’s disrespected ?

This was a really awesome and unique KZread series. Really well done. Very interesting. Thanks alot.

Loved the entire series, great work Ben!

What a series, I teared up a bit at the end

This was literally the best basketball analysis series

I cant wait for the new Ranking in a years time or so... great video as always with awesome and insightful information

This truly was an amazing series to watch starting from episode 1