Thantis vs Grenzo vs Melek vs Lord Windgrace EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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  • @briebaggaley6801
    @briebaggaley68015 жыл бұрын

    From now on, every time you cut out in a video, i'm going to add Radiate to a deck I play.

  • @jonahcoffman3078

    @jonahcoffman3078

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is a brilliant idea

  • @kale1602
    @kale16025 жыл бұрын

    At 12:30 I thought Andrew said "...reveals White Boy off the top..."

  • @ErasMcras
    @ErasMcras5 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love the lands player getting literally every piece of hate and letting Vin-Saw do whatever he wants.

  • @ArchonSK
    @ArchonSK5 жыл бұрын

    11:56 "The last ability of Growing Rites of Itlimoc doesn’t trigger if you don’t control four or more creatures as your end step begins. If you don’t control four or more creatures as it resolves, it does nothing."

  • @CLtrackStar4
    @CLtrackStar45 жыл бұрын

    Growing Rites of Itlimoc won't trigger at all if you don't have 4+ creatures as you move to your End Step. Sandwurm Convergence will trigger, giving you Creature #4, but it'll be too late for Itlimoc to transform.

  • @imapaincake2305

    @imapaincake2305

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can't you decide and re-arrange the order of the triggers or it is already written in the card? (i'm too lazy to check)

  • @LaserfaceJones

    @LaserfaceJones

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@imapaincake2305 no, because if you don't have 4 creatures at the beginning of the end step, it won't trigger at all. It doesn't just trigger and then check if you have 4 creatures, the trigger just doesn't go on the stack if you don't have 4 creatures when the step starts

  • @nitrodog96

    @nitrodog96

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@imapaincake2305 Unfortunately, no. It's an intervening "if" clause ("At the beginning of your end step, IF [condition], [do something]") which means that it checks the condition twice - once when it would be put on the stack, and once when it resolves. If the condition isn't true when it would be put on the stack, it isn't put on the stack. And if the condition isn't true when it resolves, it does nothing.

  • @Customerbuilder

    @Customerbuilder

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nitrodog96 just like Santa!

  • @Cole444Train
    @Cole444Train5 жыл бұрын

    That Grenzo deck is sweet!

  • @patrickweiss5063
    @patrickweiss50635 жыл бұрын

    Sam couldn't attach the turn he reanimated craterhoof due to keeping glacial chasm by paying 4 life. Cheat count +1

  • @Rohan841r

    @Rohan841r

    Жыл бұрын

    Could not Attack.

  • @BTGamenight
    @BTGamenight5 жыл бұрын

    Happy Holidays Mr Muddstah! Thank you for the extra videos which are always fun to watch!! : ]

  • @AffinityForCommander
    @AffinityForCommander5 жыл бұрын

    As usual, this game has me hooked! Nice one Muddstah! 😁

  • @matthugenberg8869
    @matthugenberg88695 жыл бұрын

    You can't attack with glacial chasm out. Whoops. Haha

  • @jgroen5545

    @jgroen5545

    5 жыл бұрын

    Was about to say that

  • @phyrexian_dude4645

    @phyrexian_dude4645

    5 жыл бұрын

    I saw that too.

  • @valnyr4678

    @valnyr4678

    5 жыл бұрын

    I yelled that as it happened lol

  • @calebbanks6767

    @calebbanks6767

    5 жыл бұрын

    Common mistake I also thought that

  • @stephanblijleven8189

    @stephanblijleven8189

    4 жыл бұрын

    I came to the comments to say that too

  • @Cole444Train
    @Cole444Train5 жыл бұрын

    Being tempted by discovery is always a mistake. Sam got urborg and coffers and mark got a basic? Yeah totally worth.

  • @DarkEinherjar

    @DarkEinherjar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Judging from the subsequent plays, I think Mark was tempted not because he wanted the land, but because he wanted to shuffle and hopefully put an instant or sorcery on the top of his library, and getting a land out of the deck increases the chances of that happening. It was a gamble, which unfortunately didn't pay off.

  • @KevinSilva-wv3yf
    @KevinSilva-wv3yf5 жыл бұрын

    Today’s music was so on point ❤️ more in future episodes please!

  • @maxscott2964
    @maxscott29645 жыл бұрын

    i love all your comander games and i haven’t missed one keep it up

  • @johnwelsch8943
    @johnwelsch89435 жыл бұрын

    When you want to see someone's take on Lord Windgrace. But you can't cause Muddstah hates you. 33 mins it soooo far away lol

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's true. I told Sam to delete his list to deprive you all of its hotness.

  • @Quroe_
    @Quroe_5 жыл бұрын

    Always an entertaining watch. As somebody who loves combo victories, that was a pretty satisfying one to see.

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega5 жыл бұрын

    Some sweet cards showed up in this game! Never even heard of Summary Dismissal!

  • @geekmp3
    @geekmp35 жыл бұрын

    I'm absolutely in love with Thantis. So much fun with -1/-1 counters

  • @popo-or8hd
    @popo-or8hd5 жыл бұрын

    Great game! Its pleasure to see grenzo in action!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar5 жыл бұрын

    You know, when Josh played Grenzo at GameKnights (actually, the first GK video I ever saw), it didn't pick my interest that much... but after seeing this version of Grenzo in action, I definitely want him as my Rakdos commander now (sorry, Mogis).

  • @Marionettetc
    @Marionettetc5 жыл бұрын

    Hey muddy, I'm glad you're mixing up the music. The license free stuff i've heard for years on other KZread videos and the variety is a relief.

  • @BadCookies1234

    @BadCookies1234

    2 жыл бұрын

    He also attacked with three creatures when there was a crawlspace. oh well. game on

  • @DeadbeatShadows
    @DeadbeatShadows5 жыл бұрын

    I really like Sam's take on Windgrace, it seems like my build. Dredge, some Landfall, and graveyard shenanigans. I just need some more of those juicy utility lands.

  • @lordofdeath1876
    @lordofdeath18765 жыл бұрын

    i love the 3 videos a week

  • @marnixw8724
    @marnixw87245 жыл бұрын

    Came here specifically for inspiration for a grenzo deck. Wasn't disappointed.

  • @inthestateofdelirium
    @inthestateofdelirium5 жыл бұрын

    Please don't do this premiere thing. I'll watch your videos every time until forever, but don't tempt me with a picture and say it's almost out. :(

  • @johnwelsch8943

    @johnwelsch8943

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same lol

  • @Scott.not.Scotty

    @Scott.not.Scotty

    5 жыл бұрын

    I concur

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's an hour wait!

  • @achimney29
    @achimney295 жыл бұрын

    Ah a fellow Thanits player, a man of true taste...

  • @danielegiuntini8844
    @danielegiuntini88445 жыл бұрын

    So good Tempt with Discovery. I prefere to do not run it in my Windgrace deck because I'm scared of Bojuka Bog or Scavenger Grounds exiling my graveyard. However there were many mistakes but it's normal in a complex multiplayer game.

  • @roberthigdon764
    @roberthigdon7645 жыл бұрын

    3:56 Tuktuk Scrapper should have done one point of damage to the player Mark when it killed his scepter since Vince had one ally in play.

  • @ErikTheRedd1
    @ErikTheRedd15 жыл бұрын

    I think itlimoc needs the creatures to be out for the trigger to be put on the stack and for it to resolve

  • @Quroe_

    @Quroe_

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is true. 'Intervening if' clause.

  • @darylchiu9030
    @darylchiu90305 жыл бұрын

    Spider, Goblin, Electro and T'Challa. :3

  • @namename8004

    @namename8004

    5 жыл бұрын

    I see what you did there.

  • @zwalkover
    @zwalkover5 жыл бұрын

    The background music reminds me of "The Canyon" by Philip Glass.

  • @quincybriley4113
    @quincybriley41135 жыл бұрын

    that was very nice of him when he twincast'd the lightning bolt not to hit the dryad arbor

  • @Avatarbee
    @Avatarbee5 жыл бұрын

    Damn, I got blindsided by the unexpected saturday video.

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    Each Saturday in December has an extra game as a holiday treat!

  • @unitouchme
    @unitouchme5 жыл бұрын

    love your channel

  • @jonathaneliudcarrizales362
    @jonathaneliudcarrizales362 Жыл бұрын

    10:59 Sam shouldn't attack because of static ability of Glacial Chasm...

  • @nicoschleier2972
    @nicoschleier29725 жыл бұрын

    I wanna see the Windgrace Decklist so badly xD please share it :p

  • @safertobeanonymous2224
    @safertobeanonymous22244 жыл бұрын

    Turns out the one guy saying puzzle box was right!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar5 жыл бұрын

    Best line of the game: Muddstah saying "#cheatcounteroneSam" as a joke, and one minute later Sam actually cheating by accident, swinging with his creatures even though Glacial Chasm stops him from doing so. Also, #misplaycountoneMuddstah, for the Growing Rites of Itlimoc trigger: if you don't have enough creatures at the beginning of your end step, GRoI won't trigger at all, even if you add creatures during your end step to fulfill the quota; you have to add them before the end step.

  • @ivorymantis1026
    @ivorymantis10263 жыл бұрын

    My Thantis deck was just designed to put as much chaos on the field as physically and humanly possible. I didn't even design it to win.

  • @crazydude324
    @crazydude3245 жыл бұрын

    Poor Mark, it was really sad to see land after land on top of his library.

  • @Egovinco98
    @Egovinco985 жыл бұрын

    0:23-0:25 Weird Cut 04:00 missed 1 dmg, i think. haven't really played that ally much. 11:58 Itlimoc Flip does not trigger , if you don't control 4 creatures at beginning of end step. (not sure how many tokens you had before cause lighting, talk seemed to indicate you had 3 creatures only) oh and i loved that Grenzo Deck!

  • @mwetter6949
    @mwetter69495 жыл бұрын

    Liked for Thantis ❤️

  • @decakebaker
    @decakebaker5 жыл бұрын

    Love the loonies and toonies you guys flipped eh?!

  • @AnimEva_33
    @AnimEva_334 жыл бұрын

    Grenzo looks so much fun

  • @stevenbuck4090
    @stevenbuck40905 жыл бұрын

    A few misplays here. Forgot to give first spirit token, Ithilmoc couldn't have flipped, and he couldn't have attacked with Chasm. But overall good game!

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG97775 жыл бұрын

    0:24 thought my phone skipped something lolz

  • @nanoacido5174
    @nanoacido51744 жыл бұрын

    Every time Mark passed I thought something crazy was going to hit the table :/

  • @kdchmln
    @kdchmln5 жыл бұрын

    3:59 that Tuktuk Scrapper should have dealt 1 damage to Mark.

  • @zakkwyllde
    @zakkwyllde5 жыл бұрын

    isnt Growing Rites of Itlimoc an intervening if trigger? meaning it wont trigger if you dont meet the requirements?

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    Someone else pointed that out. It seems I misplayed it!

  • @peacechan4500
    @peacechan45005 жыл бұрын

    Please do more thanthis

  • @jonathand8480
    @jonathand84805 жыл бұрын

    4:01. No big deal but mark should have taken one damage here since Vince controlled an Ally

  • @Squidxx-fg7ih
    @Squidxx-fg7ih5 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure Sam had glacial chasm on board when he cast craterhoof?

  • @animeexpresscon
    @animeexpresscon5 жыл бұрын

    Good game, but watching Mark cast instants at sorcery speed was hard to watch at times. For example: the initial Lightning bolt and copy could have got him a 2 for 1 had he waited just one more turn for Vince to drop Grenzo.

  • @ChevronSeven
    @ChevronSeven5 жыл бұрын

    What's the backround music?

  • @imasiontist653
    @imasiontist6535 жыл бұрын

    6:30 MARK NO!

  • @samdiamond5333
    @samdiamond53335 жыл бұрын

    Yes I love thantis!

  • @Rabid_Wombat
    @Rabid_Wombat5 жыл бұрын

    Sam's Windgrace list...we need it now!

  • @awanderingtroll8724
    @awanderingtroll87245 жыл бұрын

    where is the deck list for Lord Windgrace ?

  • @nonlinear3084
    @nonlinear30845 жыл бұрын

    [[Desecrated Tomb]] does not grant a bat for each creature returned, only the first one per turn

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't say anything about how many times it triggers on the card.

  • @anti_filatelisti4747
    @anti_filatelisti47475 жыл бұрын

    Victimize brings the creatures onto the board TAPPED! And good game btw :D

  • @anti_filatelisti4747

    @anti_filatelisti4747

    5 жыл бұрын

    EDIT: Yea I looked wrong it just looked he attacked with the Behemoth sorry :)

  • @Arvensa

    @Arvensa

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean, he shouldn't be attacking anyway while controlling his Glacial Chasm

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR4 жыл бұрын

    Wait, you only had three creatures when you transformed Growing Rites

  • @karkius
    @karkius5 жыл бұрын

    what kind of name is Vainsoan?

  • @thelocustgod9098
    @thelocustgod90985 жыл бұрын

    Kind of curious as to why you kept that starting hand?

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    Didn't want to mulligan down even further.

  • @thelocustgod9098

    @thelocustgod9098

    5 жыл бұрын

    MTG Muddstah fair.

  • @b-hawk5959
    @b-hawk59595 жыл бұрын

    I named my tarantula Thantis

  • @YourPalRowan
    @YourPalRowan5 жыл бұрын

    Vince couldn't attack with Virtus the turn it came in due to it not having haste. Cheat count +1

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    He activated Grenzo at the end of Mark's turn. This is how the Virtus came out. He then started his own turn, which meant Virtus could attack on Vincent's turn.

  • @aarong2606
    @aarong26065 жыл бұрын

    Wait Sam attacked with the Craterhoof swing....didnt he have glacial chasm out? Shouldn't have dealt damage.

  • @DarkEinherjar

    @DarkEinherjar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shouldn't have attacked AT ALL.

  • @joshuadiaz6104
    @joshuadiaz61045 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Vince was given the game in the end from Mark with the wipe away smh

  • @khornii8129
    @khornii81295 жыл бұрын

    I'm quite sure this isn't the same soundtrack as always?

  • @maxboudreaux1076
    @maxboudreaux10762 жыл бұрын

    i LOVE grenzo so i spent all my money to make a competetiv deck wish me luck guys

  • @bosser18
    @bosser185 жыл бұрын

    Didnt tuk tuk when he first came out miss a damage?

  • @henryrussell8833
    @henryrussell88335 жыл бұрын

    huh, didnt know goblins could be festive

  • @muzunomi
    @muzunomi5 жыл бұрын

    Is it Vince or Vince???

  • @emdub9679

    @emdub9679

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's Vince as in Vince

  • @ImTroyFromCanada
    @ImTroyFromCanada5 жыл бұрын

    YOU GUYS ARE CANUCKS?! MY DUDES!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar5 жыл бұрын

    Why are people surprised that everyone picked on the Windgrace player? That's what happens when so many people build him focusing on mass land destruction. NO ONE LIKES LOSING THEIR LANDS AND BEING UNABLE TO PLAY THE GAME. Also, going after Doubling Season is a natural thing: Planeswalkers entering the battlefield with twice as many counters is no joke, and that Vraska at the top of Sam's library tells us he could have other PWs. That Vraska in particular would enter one turn away from her ultimate, and so would Windgrace himself.

  • @thewaffler43
    @thewaffler435 жыл бұрын

    Dryad arbor counts as a land, he couldn't have played dryad arbor and then golgari rotfarm on the same turn

  • @TheBigPenguu
    @TheBigPenguu5 жыл бұрын

    Why does everyone keep hating on the Windgrace deck?

  • @Suzuki246

    @Suzuki246

    5 жыл бұрын

    Obliterate, Decree of Annhilaion, and all similar possible MLD effects. His card draw and recursion makes him very hard to keep up with once he gets going. At least, thats what I've seen so far when I faced him.

  • @Ianoxen

    @Ianoxen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I hate it because every playgroup I've been to has one Windgrace player and Im kind of sick of seeing it and is almost always predictable of what they're doing. The usual ramp/sacLand/discardLand/landfall because theres no other way of playing him.

  • @user-zq7qs8hs5f

    @user-zq7qs8hs5f

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Ianoxen I have a Windgrace deck. It's about Greater Good/Urabrask/Living Death and Jarad as wincons, Landfall is like suppport. That is a much more graveyard oriented deck than most. There are other ways of playing him and I believe if you only focus on landfall you do it wrong.

  • @swolegolisopod7340

    @swolegolisopod7340

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Ianoxen I personally run a memey valakut list that attempts to get prismatic omen with valakut and any of mirage mirror, vesuva,or thespians stage. Also ob nixilis as a potential valakut #5. From there saccing lands via zuran orb or squandered resources followed by splendid reclamation or world shaper will close out most games. World shaper can be targeted by a valakut trigger to keep the shenanigans going.

  • @mtgnoob9988

    @mtgnoob9988

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@swolegolisopod7340 that sounds fun! I love zurvan orb in this deck. Has saved my life several games

  • @l.m.c.s4102
    @l.m.c.s41024 жыл бұрын

    Did you forget Partner on virtus ?

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega5 жыл бұрын

    Oh, this reveals WIPE AWAY! Not White Boy. I misheard that.

  • @michaelmoorman9104
    @michaelmoorman91045 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Any way I can get that grenzo decklist?

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yup, it's in the video description.

  • @michaelmoorman9104

    @michaelmoorman9104

    5 жыл бұрын

    MTG Muddstah thank you!

  • @kuro_nogazaki
    @kuro_nogazaki5 жыл бұрын

    You can’t attack with Glacial Chasm out.

  • @n0ksi0210
    @n0ksi02105 жыл бұрын

    How he played 2 lands on first turn? Gren Sun's zenith into dryad arbor and then bounce land. why ......

  • @DragonKingSkye
    @DragonKingSkye5 жыл бұрын

    Imagine saying yes to a tempting offer for a basic, like bruh.

  • @wadinatorthevile2805
    @wadinatorthevile28055 жыл бұрын

    This week *_I’M_*

  • @dirkdevos5701
    @dirkdevos57015 жыл бұрын

    #Samcheatcount2 he can't attack with glacial chasm on the field

  • @BjornEinarr
    @BjornEinarr5 жыл бұрын

    I can't understand the hatred towards Windgrace, considering the ridiculous boardstate Grenzo had, into an obvious combo :(

  • @DarkEinherjar

    @DarkEinherjar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Blame everyone who focused on mass land destruction when building their Windgrace decks...

  • @gwalden
    @gwalden5 жыл бұрын

    I have a melek spellslinger deck

  • @Richthofen100
    @Richthofen1005 жыл бұрын

    I wished i saw more action from the melek player.

  • @federicocarlucci7973

    @federicocarlucci7973

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michał Korybut Wiśniowiecki Spellslinger decks are often all-or nothing decks. Either they go off in a flurry of spells or they do nothing at all while trying to sculpt their hands

  • @Richthofen100

    @Richthofen100

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@federicocarlucci7973 Tell me about it. Bought Melek myself and spent 8 turns doing nothing more than digging, scrying and playing a Fog Bank -.-

  • @pklemon7856
    @pklemon78565 жыл бұрын

    cireneg nilbog esion

  • @IHazMagics
    @IHazMagics4 жыл бұрын

    This week I’m

  • @KromeDrone
    @KromeDrone5 жыл бұрын

    You should go on the Command Zone podcast, Muddstah. Considering youre easily the best Commander Gameplay channel that had actual footage of people playing the game, youd be the best candidate for it.

  • @johns832

    @johns832

    5 жыл бұрын

    Please dont... they are corporate commander. Nothing original only what wizards wants highlighted. I love his originality.

  • @xakuyer
    @xakuyer5 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is red, they picked the wrong color, team black

  • @STIPanda
    @STIPanda5 жыл бұрын

    Canyon Slough is pronounced Canyon Slew

  • @nosniboR_naI
    @nosniboR_naI5 жыл бұрын

    Look up the land called howltooth hollow it’s horible

  • @LAmanafull6246
    @LAmanafull62465 жыл бұрын

    on 5:20, sam did a +2 on windgrace, but there is a doubling season, he forgot to put 4 loyalty counters instead of 2 :)

  • @idy3967

    @idy3967

    5 жыл бұрын

    axel leroy It doesn't work that way thankfully. The loyalty counters adding or removing from a planeswalker is a cost and doesn't actually put counters on the way doubling season cares about. If you cast a planeswalker with doubling season on the board however you get double.

  • @LAmanafull6246

    @LAmanafull6246

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@idy3967 Really? Works only when they arrive in the battlefield and not after? JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE!!! I WANNA REPLA A LOT OF LOST GAAAAAAAAAAAAMES!!!

  • @zaddyzathog4087
    @zaddyzathog40875 жыл бұрын

    when you destroyed doubling season instead of the puzzle box... ugh

  • @danpasquale1620
    @danpasquale16202 жыл бұрын

    how much you pay for that Gaea's Cradle SAMMMM?!?

  • @murlocmasher3368
    @murlocmasher33683 жыл бұрын

    7:23 he knows what his card does, if its a personal deck. he chose to target cradle.. cheaters never win. Vince was the only loser imo

  • @murlocmasher3368

    @murlocmasher3368

    3 жыл бұрын

    not to mention Land destruction is very frowned upon in the format, sometimes not even aloud

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@murlocmasher3368 not sure what to say other than mistakes happen, even if it is your own deck.

  • @daniilmironov6683
    @daniilmironov66834 жыл бұрын

    Why your opponents wouldn't let you mulligan for free? Your hand was horrible.

  • @dancook6114
    @dancook61145 жыл бұрын

    Big cheats on turn 10. Mark cannot attack because of his glacial chasm

  • @StEvEn420BrUlE
    @StEvEn420BrUlE5 жыл бұрын

    First

  • @TheAressandoro
    @TheAressandoro5 жыл бұрын

    Doubling season in Lord Wingrace? Why?

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    5 жыл бұрын

    Value? I'd assume to help just crank out more tokens, loyalty counters, etc.

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