Thabo Bester | Tragic love story or criminal duo?
South Africans have been mesmerised by the Thabo Bester and Nandipha Magudumana affair. But is it a tragic love story or just a criminal partnership? We unpack this with Chad Thomas from IRS Forensic Investigations. #dstv403
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This is a tragic story of what happens when a sociopath meets a psychopath.
@nadinedirks2238
Жыл бұрын
You’re so spot on!
@facingX
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
The only people I feel sorry for are Nandipha’s husband and kids. Her and Thabo are two criminals who should rot in jail
@clarindakavezuva5495
Жыл бұрын
So she has a husband?
We should all breathe a sigh of relieve that things like this don't happen everyday. But it is the things that happen everyday that caused something like this to take place - bribery, incompetence, the turning of a blind eye, etc. They culminated into making something as big as this to occur.
Absolutely !!! There was no love there. The two are criminals and the day they have met they clicked, they had common views on life, they had common goals that needed to be fulfilled rain or no rain. SOORT SOEK SOORT INDEED/ BIRDS OF FEATHERS FLOCK TOGETHER. Some of the criminal engagements, we have heard Dr Nandipha accomplished on her own without Thabo Bester being there. But it's believed that even if they were not together physically, they could communicate and plan together a wayforward. For example when Nandipha was collecting DEAD BODIES to make INSURANCE CLAIMS, she was on her own. Meaning that : Nandipha has CRIMINAL INTERESTS and she ENGAGED HERSELF on such activities.
@helenakinsman9494
Жыл бұрын
I think you right
@abdalahkilumba2003
Жыл бұрын
Linda keep texting texting this syndicate story unknown but through investigation this is mega criminal operating gang, social media says South Africa ministry of home affairs have no any record of Thabo Bester,, likely to complicate the case evidence . police confirmed to give protection to witnesses.
@abdalahkilumba2003
Жыл бұрын
no comment.
@abdalahkilumba2003
Жыл бұрын
They are had been many brutal killing from innocent people in South Africa, does this been motivated from economic hardships or political struggle from black panther inside south Africa.
It stopped being a love story when 3 dead bodies came into the picture.
@gladysmkhize4085
Жыл бұрын
True
@judyking6913
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the body that was burnt was someone's loved one and the person mattered, it's all positiviely evil and justice needs to be swift and harsh.
@lebogangsehume4135
Жыл бұрын
More than that when you consider the original charges.
On behalf of the Zulu nation, may the SA gov borrow us Thabo Bester & Dr Nandipha, we only want to have a chat with them. We promise to bring them back
Can Magudumana just take his father's name back. Let the Sekeleni name be put out there coz her dad is also involved..Yerrr
@LukeRev480
Жыл бұрын
No! She has children. He uMkhuseli being umXhosa/mPondo/mXesibe etc he or his family cannot customarily do that! It's AGAINST THE CUSTOM. I don't know or care what the constitution says. If there was no lobola process and everything that goes with the girl being handed over to the family she is marrying into, Yes maybe you do that. If you just marry in paper like some morden marriages without involving family etc, yes you do that nonsense. If she is to stop using the family name(exception) certain processes must be followed.
@Maria_Podesta
Жыл бұрын
Imagine how tricky it was to pronounce the surname now it just rolls off the SADC regions tongues
@nette2144
Жыл бұрын
@@LukeRev480 Sound complicated.I am.struggling to understand your comment. Maybe I'm dumb. Pls break it down in a simplified manner as if you are explaining to someone who has no clue about Xhosa culture. Thank you.
@LukeRev480
Жыл бұрын
@@nette2144 There is n't really such a thing as divorce when you have children. In other words individualism (me first) does n't apply. Children are almost always a priority. Whatever makes their lives easier after the fall off of a marriage is a priority. Remember back in the day even if a husband no longer wants his wife the decision was taken by the family court/komkhulu as to what happens to the assets. Sometimes he was fired in his own place & the wife would remain with the children, the "seed" was always more important. Even if the wife would be taken care off by the other family members. In this case Nandipha has children, Sekeleni & Magudumana are family for life whether they curse each other or not. Nandipha will always be UmaMtolo owayendele emathileni, she can decide to put that in paper (Sekeleni-Magudumana) or not, unless one course she marries someone else. That is why mam Winnie continued as Madikizela-Mandela even after "divorce", I don't think it was just being a brand. Even Baw'Madiba customerily had no right to claim that she stops using it. The elders OoMadiba would decide that (exception if it happened, cause family bonds were treasured)which they did n't really care as long as they had grandchildren. But I'm not a specialist in this case, kodwa I have never ever heard amongst abeNguni ubuhlobo being "taken back" just like I have never had someone being disowned. Of course with mordenization some things can be adopted.
ENCA you guys also have great journalists, why not go underground and do a great , eye opening documentary which leads to the top brass! It’s time for serious clarity about this case! Your interviewer is spot on🙏🏾
As unbelievable as this story is, it is not exceptional. It is an example of what is possible in our lawless state. A state wherein criminals thrive. Andre Steyn said on Newzroom Afrika that he has evidence that Bester was walking in and out of prison long before he faked his death. He'd been living at the Hyde Park mansion so much that the neighbour's security guard knew exactly who he was (he knew him as TK). How many other criminals are walking in and out prison? How many other murderers and rapists paid a guard R300 to come and walk among us in Woolies? This man was out for almost a year and was only caught because of media pressure; how many others have slipped through undetected? Scary, scary, scary stuff.
@PrincessVelaryon
Жыл бұрын
I saw the Andre post and pictures on Facebook and its actually crazy that he was out way back
@nette2144
Жыл бұрын
Apparently warders release prisoners at now to go out and do these heists! No wonder nobody ever gets caught! I am glad I left my horrid country RSA when I could. I feel sorry for my relatives and fellow law abiding citizens. I could not stay in the fight. I would rather be called a coward. You guys are heros for holding the fort out there. You are better than me😢😢😢😢
@PrincessVelaryon
Жыл бұрын
@Nette unfortunately no one has been invested in stopping crime since it's big business. Sad 😔
@nonhlanhlazia5995
Жыл бұрын
@@nette2144 is better you left so early because right now things are really getting out of hands here in South Africa. I can imagine in 10 years to come South Africa how is gonna be, our government is failing us period it is sad reality.😔 You're not alone who left SA lot of people are now leaving South Africa fearing for their lifes. Is getting scary day by day impossible is becoming possible in SA. I'm the next one who gonna be leaving SA very soon this is not a country that person can live in with families. Kidnappings, hijackings, rapes,killings etc. The list goes on with no justice 😢
@hihello7014
Жыл бұрын
Wow shocking 300 rand sho sho sho shocking
Pure criminality, I don't think it's a love story gone wrong.
@gladysmkhize4085
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@melaninejackie7844
Жыл бұрын
Pure criminality to gain what death! Man they loved each other and have made that risky operation to happen that's it, what yall what to analyse there again
@gogowabantwana9437
Жыл бұрын
Criminal partnership
You Tube now in with new version, Love it.
The real tragedy is how the actual criminals are destroying SA...The ANC criminals could get Thabo back in a week...their friends, the Guptas they cannot get. Maybe Thabo should have donated some couch money, hey Prez?
May you listen to the AUDIO that was leaked by Nandipha as she had her phone in her Jacket pocket.that VN was edited and the voice note is about Nandipha cheating on Bester and not her being forced to participate in the criminal acts
@lydsM
Жыл бұрын
Your surname 😂
@Tshiamo_S
Жыл бұрын
@@lydsM 😂😂😂😂
@selogilwemabale1894
Жыл бұрын
Wow
@Tsundzukani1
Жыл бұрын
@@lydsM 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Maria_Podesta
Жыл бұрын
@lydia🤣🤣🤣
Too much hype over 2 criminals. That's why this society is such in disarray. Insane !
@DaPhreshestKidd
Жыл бұрын
It's a psyOp. They are distracting us from something more important happening in the background
@dawnmzie4298
Жыл бұрын
You can say that again🤦♂️😩
If you think this is a love story, wait till escom's love story comes out!😂😂😂
@agneschimeri203
Жыл бұрын
No love story here it was a pure trap .she was trapped like a rat😢
@LeratoM98
Жыл бұрын
@@agneschimeri203 But this woman is a whole doctor. She is intelligent, knows exactly what she's doing she was not naive.
@gxobinjasambemntungwa9694
Жыл бұрын
@@LeratoM98 that's a very big mistake you just made in actual fact Thabo is more intelligent than her
@LeratoM98
Жыл бұрын
@@gxobinjasambemntungwa9694 Ok I can agree that he's more intelligent than her
@mashengmash
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
Love story se moer. They are criminals.. No sympathy from me.
@nette2144
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hes evil. A born phycopath. I dont understand why some women are drawn to men like this. Just because shes pretty and seems successful doesnt mean she doesnt have issues. But they must both stay in jail now. And all the people who helped them must pay. We are all accountable to the law and to God.
@nette2144
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@rubinnaidoo2829
Жыл бұрын
Stockholm syndrom
@recatoeberwein1477
Жыл бұрын
@@rubinnaidoo2829 From where?
@wolfsisterhowls
Жыл бұрын
@@rubinnaidoo2829how does a man in prison give a FREE woman Stockholm Syndrome, for 5 marks
@LeratoM98
Жыл бұрын
He was a product of rape.
I really get the how we can all think about this being a love story or pure criminality. Mine is a genuine question about if do we still have correctional services in our country or we need them to be corrected?
@princemdluli5095
Жыл бұрын
I strongly believe that we need correctional services that will be up to the task. To rehabilitate our criminals and those need to be brought back to our community's, will be ready to leave a clean life.
Love story, is that really the right words to use
God always has time to answer.
What happens between lovers, should stay between those 2 people. Not to drag your children, parents, colleagues, celebrities,legit organizations for extortion, the police, the dead, the law, the nation,and SADC region and finally, the world. These are two narcissistic, greedy and power hungry criminals who fit into each others lives like a glove.
This is where journalism has taken us?????
We want justice for AKA #JUSTICEFORAKA
@yndzzz
Жыл бұрын
He’s a murderer just like Thabo. Justice for the woman he killed Anele Tembe!
That’s SA for you. One moment you are shocked by trending news, the very next week something more shocking replaces it and we forget about the former As Baba Mthethwa would say “E tjena Africa borwa “
Definitely not LOVE. it was Crime at first SIGHT
No it was because ground up and we as a society put pressure, government dont do jack till normal citizens obsess about the story, now the story being milked by people/media that didnt do anything
Sad to judge people when the circumstances of their lives are not interrogated.
Why don't you have the law that states that any person blowing whistle is paid a lot of money. They like money in SA so, pay whistle blowers and informers. The money that will make many people to report.
Dr got herself trapped ,she probably was offered money in return for doing all Tboz wanted
I think these guys need to be interviewed
You know i was really touched by this raw love of these two and criminality at large they both have just imargine how many people now will be investigated and arrested just because of one individual Bester and his criminality i feel sorry for Nandipha
@phiwelove
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for Nandipha for what?😂 She is a criminal as well
@harolddinis5512
Жыл бұрын
Feel sorry for who 😂
@LeratoM98
Жыл бұрын
You feel sorry for uNandipha- a whole intelligent, grown doctor AND mother who knew better but still went with a criminal??
Bonnie and Clyde on a new level
This was not a love story, it was a sex criminal partnership
But Ground up was fed information by Judge Cameron.
@annalinepillay6387
Жыл бұрын
There was a criminal on the loose. If it was up to the police, this couple would still be free, living their best life. She would still be Dr Nandi on TV and he defrauding people. They were not really humble with their shenanigans.
How did they meet? I wonder 🤔
It truly feel like I am living in cloud cocco land,is this happening behind closed doors,are their people who thrives on corruption, crime....who is not doing their work,then as ordinary people get the brand.I fear for the generations after us.
I get the criminality of Thabo Bester as a murderer, a rapist and a fraudster. But criminal activity did Dr Nandipha get into besides her involvement in the alleged murder and escape in prison???
Thee Joker and Harlequinn ❤
Pure, criminality, nothing else.
And they’re both brilliant..Nandipha came from nothing and became a doctor..this is sooo sad
@LethaboLovesOra
Жыл бұрын
Let's not create a rags to riches or hardship story for Nands. She was brought up in a good family, her father went from being a teacher to working for the department as an inspector of sorts. Good education for both her and her brother. She even did ballet in Primary. No hardship in her upbringing that we know of.
@Wyntah888
Жыл бұрын
@@LethaboLovesOra I’m agreeing bro
You don't know the whole story. So, stop pontificating. Calling this sad story pure criminality is naïve.
@kasnaidoo8618
Жыл бұрын
Gee whiz ... what's the whole story plse do share to the honest and law abiding people of SA
Bonny and Clyde
They are 'Nandi and Thabo'... a league of their own
Criminal duo it is so clear, why still question
Criminal Due. He needs her to be on the outside and not in jail in order to grease the hands of the gready, and for him to live his best life behind bars till his next escape.
Those SAPS ladies in action😂😂😂. These two are criminal 'soulmates' with very similar characteristics. The A team and both feed on each other's strengths. If those kids are both Thabo's when and how did they make the first one? What kind of mother drags her kids into this mess!? Runaway criminal love birds!
@silavajune
Жыл бұрын
Apparently he was walking in and out of jail. My second conspiracy is that it’s weird and unmotherly t surround your kids with a rapist|murderer, unless he actually was their father on the down low.
But why didn't the authorities take Bester straight in for interrogation and
@dinogovender5133
Жыл бұрын
But why didn't the authorities take Bester in for interrogation and Rope in the people involved .there must be more people involved
Justice system of SA 😢😢
Don't have channels number 403, instead have 404 and 405 .
@annalinepillay6387
Жыл бұрын
That is SABC and Africa Newsroom. You should have it on your subscription.
Criminal duo no question. He brought out the bad in her and he is pure BAD!!!
I think there was love to a certain extend
@LeratoM98
Жыл бұрын
Toxic love.
@nadinedirks2238
Жыл бұрын
Eish. If this is the idea of what love is. I don’t want it
Two deviants who found each other- couldn’t have said it better!
OUR BONNY AND CLYDE 😂😂😂..
HE Zuma has got nothing to do with Thabo Bester. That photo was AI generated.
There are no morals or scruples in SA due to the ANC Organisation as money pay the way for criminals.
@DaPhreshestKidd
Жыл бұрын
Bro must ANC be blamed for everything. I don't support them but this shit is just scapegoating ma'am. Chill out
@recatoeberwein1477
Жыл бұрын
@@DaPhreshestKidd the ANC is to blame. The ANC of isibunu Ramaphosa is a failure.
@phiwelove
Жыл бұрын
@@recatoeberwein1477 can't blame ANc for crimes done by Nandipha, Thabo and the prison
@recatoeberwein1477
Жыл бұрын
@@phiwelove In any other country ministers would have resigned by now. Thabo, Nandi and all these culprits votela ANC. Even posing with HE Zuma. If the ANC did not outsource to GS4 this nonsense would not have happened. Now I am going to listen to Kilimanjaro. Hamba Kahle.
@LeratoM98
Жыл бұрын
@@DaPhreshestKidd ANC isn't directly to blame but they've created the environment where criminals are comfortable and can do these things and go far with them. So they've enabled this behaviour.
Reality: Phala Phala Farm Gate Media: Thabo Bester Reality: Unemployment Media: Dr Nandipha Reality: A letter by Thabo Mbeki Media: Thabo Bester Reality: Stage 8 Loadshedding Media: Thabo Bester & Dr Nandipha Reality: BEE status Media: Thabo Bester
Criminal Duo def,not even stolen money van buy class
Bheki Celebrity repeatedly said how close the breakthrough....so much did he know of a the passports garbage from his mouth always
If this woman was NOT a rich doctor there would have been none of this bs.
@nette2144
Жыл бұрын
Rich by fire by fraud...
Tanzania .... Thabo did not have enough money to bribe the authority in Tanzania... how come the Guptas got away ? They had enough money ... till now they are protected by Dubai , why ? Money 100 of million Rands is protecting them .... Thabo did not have that kind of money to get away 😂
@rubinnaidoo2829
Жыл бұрын
How did the Guptas get so much of tax payers money ? The enablers not yet brought to book ! 8:14
@bongitshabalala618
Жыл бұрын
Essop,I don't think so.Tanzania is Not Like This Banana, Orange COUNTRY.Where everyone Do As they Want.
Sorry it's all about power, money, posing with celebrities and living a life of luxury way above their means, they both criminals and he's a convicted murderer and rapist who was already serving life before this whole fiasco, they thought they were above the laws that apply to the rest of us and justice needs to be swift and harsh.
Its called BLACK ECONOMIC GREED like White Capital Monopoly get used to the term a lot more still to come , the rot is everywhere but call it as it is
You see my good people I don't believe either Bester nor Nandipha is a mastermind here. Thabo was targeted by one faction of the ANC under whose regime he was arrested back 2012 or 2013. They new Thabo does not appear on the NPR ( National Population Register ) and he has no SA identification number. They wanted to use him for their dirty work against the other faction knowing he is not easy to trace him and the public know him as someone who is in prison. listen carefully the voice note where he threatens Nandipda where he says she is no: 27 on his surveillance and his political connects know about her. Nandipha was just used by these politicians to see this escape out as they knew she was visiting him in prison and she was used as a bait and they are actually monitoring her movement. Not absolving them off-course. How long is Thabo's surveillance list and who are in there and for what purpose?. Jacob Zuma, Mzwanele Manyi, Duduzani Zuma and others off-course, must tell the truth. My opinioan.
“Mesmerised” ???
What happend to Akas case?
@phiwelove
Жыл бұрын
What happened to all murder cases that happen in the country everyday. Nothing. This country tires me
@materenemolaoa1752
Жыл бұрын
The police have “move on” ke Sana. Abesekho apho! 🤷🏾♀️ Futhi even this one if it wasn’t of Tanzanian police, we would soon have forgotten about these two as well. They would have been better off staying here than anywhere in the world!
Both must rot in jail.. Disgraceful
Our very own Bonnie & Clyde
@user-ez9en7vk2z
Жыл бұрын
More like Mpho and Mphonyana ....
Bonnie & Clyde were murderous psychopaths on the run - why is this not fitting?
Omg stop with this beater news now. This is sooo old
'we've lost our moral compass' lols sorry buddy but do you remember apartheid?
@isja840
Жыл бұрын
💯
No matter were they went ....they would have made a error y cause theyre greeeeeedy
Love story gone wrong...
WHO CARES, WE WANT ANC IN JAIL, ITS ALL THE GOVTs FAULT, EVERYTHIN.This is a waste of AIRTIME
@bongitshabalala618
Жыл бұрын
Leeroy, this is True because Lamola knew about this long before.But he didn't not ACT,Take it Seriously.
Beuaty and the beast ...greeeeed evil
Crimes partnership
Thabo ke legodu ,nandipha o rata chelete simple
@bongitshabalala618
Жыл бұрын
Moreana,💯❤️Agree with YOU.
This is evil
Chad is a criminal himself...
Tanzanian SAPS must train SAPS
Love story, is that really the right words to use
@nette2144
Жыл бұрын
You know..haekhona
@ImNotRobotImAlive
Жыл бұрын
@@nette2144 this is South-Africa, I'm not even surprised anymore😂