Decoding Thabo Bester's mind
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The Department of Correctional Services had been under attack for the escape of convicted murderer and rapist Thabo Bester. Dr Gerard Labuschange, a criminologist and criminal pychologist who spoke to Bester while in custody, gives an insight.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.
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Thank you for bringing in a real expert, Dr. Gerard Labuschange is brilliant.
People in prison have enough time to tap into their mental strength, something we dont because of the disturbance outside.
After seeing that interview with his mom, I can confidently say that he has a resentment towards women. Especially women who reject him...
@gugumsimango373
Жыл бұрын
Wow this is a good observation, might be true
Bester isn't smart at all, he just happened to be latching at people's desperate situation.... For instance, Dr Nandipha is one desperate medical professional for money and quick riches. Dr Nandipha is also a middle-aged lady desperate for some fairy tailed affection and infatuation. Social media people are always desperate. That bogus conference of his was saturated by desperate people who yearned to associate with success without having to work for it. It is very easy to swindle a desperate individual regardless of how smart they may have been...
@mbavhaleloramaremisa1493
Жыл бұрын
Don't understand why most people are still undermining Dr Nandipha cos that woman is dangerous bro! she's a real gangster bro! A real BITCH bro! Not everybitch can pull off this kind of shit bro!!! TRUST ME...THAT'S GANGSTER SHIT BRO!
@lorrainelou4449
Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a great analysis! So true
@sandramasilela238
Жыл бұрын
It takes smarts to not only identify desperation in others but also manipulate it for your own gain. A less than smart person would have used force, yet he manipulated people's gluttony to the point where they are still willing to remain silent regarding his escape, even after almost a year. He might have had help but we can't deny his intelligence. He has been able to not only manipulate intelligent people but also amass great external wealth from inside a prison
@yournightmare4987
Жыл бұрын
@@sandramasilela238 guess we often
@liyanazion-pr5kv
Жыл бұрын
A former employee told GroundUp that , they ddnt have a designated role or any plan to run the company but money was ALWAYS there, they got payed regardless of them Not really doing anything, so you might be right, for the fact that somebody could be so amused by the fact that they ddnt work at all but still got payed shows that she Was fuelled by money, she could do anything for money
Thabo Bester living large in prison, his mastermind escape saga and cover up, dead decomposed body planted in the cell and the minister's lost whistle blower's emails. Simple Netflix Horror Movie 🎥‼️ WE NEED AL JAZEERA UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATION URGENTLY HERE
@charlinda_is_her_2058
Жыл бұрын
I still can't believe he had a Google Meeting Ku le prison...like???😂😂😂😂😂 And he hosted a session?!!😅😅
So far the best interview I’ve seen with a criminology expert. He made sense and really shed light onto how bad this situation really is for citizens of the state. We have such a messed up country, it’s actually sad.
This is the reason why Gayton could be right - Dr Nandipha went to claim the body of Bester saying she is the customer wife. They knew from last year that Thabo had escaped. If they were really looking for him, the 1st place to start was at the "customary wife" s place. Instead, top officials in dept of correctional services kept on saying "we are investigating".
@siviwendyoki7724
Жыл бұрын
Plb❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ pm❤❤
@siviwendyoki7724
Жыл бұрын
Nbnnpbn
This is not explaining what was going on in his mind
This man has a brilliant mind and if only they would listen to him the SAPS would be one institution to be reckoned with.
@chesterphiri7523
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they don't like such brilliant individuals.
@Codename_deephousejunkie
Жыл бұрын
Raymond Reddington
@ntombenhlesikakane4698
Жыл бұрын
I am ppppp999oi
@tudojajula6059
Жыл бұрын
@@Codename_deephousejunkie 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and he does possess Reddington' posture and similarities
@KiaPi2012
Жыл бұрын
The doctor? He is saying he can't recall much. He didnt bring his file how did you deduce he is brilliant?
What I can say is that Money is Powerfull...this is the organised crime ...inside and outside Prison .
"i can't recall" the south african story. nobody can recall anything in this country
@crystalsingh2331
Жыл бұрын
First time I am hearing thing
@omzigcelu3379
Жыл бұрын
These guys have amnesia
@SPOK-zz5lj
Жыл бұрын
Just expropriating BLACK ECONOMIC GREED phrases without compensation , nothing wrong with that ......
@simphiwemkhatshwa6779
Жыл бұрын
This is an expert, he can't afford to speculate for heaven sake.
@___day
Жыл бұрын
@@simphiwemkhatshwa6779 then why was he interviewed on something he knows nothing about? he should have declined the interview & moved on with his life
So they would rather not warn the public that a murderer and serial rapist is on the loose to hide their incompetence. Now it's out there they like "oh ya he escaped" wow! SMH!!!!
@buyanifakudze3489
Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to do a prison "roll call" and check who else escaped... The way law enforcement has been so chilled means they've been doing it.
@ThamiNdlalane
Жыл бұрын
He was not meant to be found. Even now they are not looking for him despite their claims
@siviwendyoki7724
Жыл бұрын
🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🏟🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🏟🔔
@siviwendyoki7724
Жыл бұрын
A 🎛🎛🔔🔔🔔🔔🎛🦊🐴🔔🔔🎛🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🥥🍎🍎🌶🌶
Thabo is extremely dangerous he knows all the tight things to say to gain sympathy 🤮. He even feigned a small amount of emotion to pass as a normal perosn.
Dr. Gerard came to an interview without reviewing his notes ...how does that work😮 🤔?
@keletsomalefahlo2802
Жыл бұрын
Source: Trust me bro 😂
Now Bester🫵🏻What about Senzo Meyiwa killers? What about AKA killers? Do Somebody?
@KristaAraes
Жыл бұрын
Please bring Aka killers to book,Tanzania police ,help sars🙏🙏
SA is like a movie straight
Why do I feel like this guy was sent here to make us understand and sympathize with Thabo Bester. This is South Africa hey
@reabetswekhiba7551
Жыл бұрын
He is a forensic physiologist. He's actual job is to understand why people who commit crimes do the things he does. He was the head of SAPS IPS. He is one of the best profilers in the world. It's his actual job
@Facts_Only_SA
Жыл бұрын
@@reabetswekhiba7551 That’s what everyone knows, what is your point. Do you know what is propaganda?
@munghilepheeane8528
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean exactly? The guy is answering questions accordingly. Please elaborate so we can understand your point.
But then, Arthur Fraser's spirit and legacy must loom large and die hard in the Correctional Services system
Where did dr Nandi buy her liver 😮😮😮 she’s brave yooo
@joycemokate-zu7kc
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@gugumsimango373
Жыл бұрын
I think she is a victim, I mean Thabo is smart and manipulative. Maybe he lied to her when he was in/out of prison and told her so many lies about himself. She is in trouble
@kgatoentlekgalegi5616
Жыл бұрын
Sa tau - game reserve
@Nosiipho
Жыл бұрын
@@gugumsimango373 she is a mastermind of her own, the moves she pulled can only be pulled by people who are capable of such regardless of being manipulated or not
What if the body was 'bought' from a mortuary? That could have been an unclaimed corpse. The plot thickens. Many players involved here.
@sifisodube4686
Жыл бұрын
Good comment I love your thinking
@elma_uncensored
Жыл бұрын
So true. I love your thinking
@sifisodube4686
Жыл бұрын
@@elma_uncensored indeed keep well man I like good comments and you doing that 👍
@sandrahorstmann9013
Жыл бұрын
Apparently this body was kept in the prisons freezer and transported in a wheel chair😮
@sifisodube4686
Жыл бұрын
@@sandrahorstmann9013 eish can you imagine the level of corruption evilness that is in his country.theres family members who are still looking for there body of the loves ones just because of money people do such things things have gone wrong in are country shame thanks for your good comment realy appreciate 👍
'I can't recall' if I watched this interview
But why did grootmane agree to the interview if he doesn't recall important details nor did he bring his file on Thabo.
@livingabroadthepodcast2021
Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking the same thing like what the hell ??
@BigMeech1
Жыл бұрын
Would he have access to the file if he's no longer with SAPS?
@reabetswekhiba7551
Жыл бұрын
The interview happened in 2011. 12 years ago. Him being one of the best profilers in the world , him being ex head of SAPS IPS . He has a authority to speak about such things.
@chantellegoliath6946
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. So unprepared 🤔😳🤨 I mean what is this nonsense? He knew he was being interviewed, why not check your files? I suppose Everyone is chasing clout😮💨
@chantellegoliath6946
Жыл бұрын
@@BigMeech1believe me ALL professionals make copies of their work especially high profile cases
I was expecting a psychologist diagnosis about Thabo behaviour, con man is not enough! He never spoke to the man inside Thabo Bester! Here he is speaking not as a psychologist but like anyone else with a point of few!
@heidb
Жыл бұрын
Ja dissapointing
I remember seeing an article about the real Thabo Bester struggling with his life as his identity was stolen. One question I have is that why does the Police authorities use the stolen identity even this day !
@sbomaggz
Жыл бұрын
His mother reported that Thabo Bester is his real name, but just not recorded.
My guess is probably Thabo Bester and Nandipha might have been involved in human trafficking hence the enormous support. Someone powerful might have offered him a job from inside to be able to lure more females that are probably have been trafficked as we speak.
SAPS lost one their most valuable asset, when he left.
This guy is a master mind of note. There is a Reason why this is coming out now😲
@nthabelengkubeka5073
Жыл бұрын
He couldn’t pay them anymore. There were no more crimes to commit to make the hundreds of thousands he promised his accomplices. You know how cops are , they are greedy.
You didn't decode his mind though. You asked questions that are focused on the case not how his mind works. You've never watched criminal minds? Decoding the mind would be looking at how his mind works. How he perceives the world and people. SA journalists sometimes. Mxm
@heidb
Жыл бұрын
Im feeling the same... I was expecting something different
Re cellphones in jail, an elderly woman here in kzn waterfall was blackmailed for R14k to prevent her jailed employee from being stabbed whilst awaiting trial in Westville prison.
@PhutiSemenya-et7fm
Жыл бұрын
I get it now
Very well rounded and sober minded Dr. Gerard is.
@chantellegoliath6946
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. He was very unprepared
Imagine if we had to deal with the likes of Pablo😅 if we cannot handle guys like this in our justice intelligence
Brilliant interview. Dr . L. You are another level.
@chantellegoliath6946
Жыл бұрын
How? He was so unprepared 😮💨
I can’t recall!!!! Wow
Thabo Bester is one of the top geniuses in this planet, emagine him working as a minister of police,we can have peace in this country.
@merle-wq9ir
Жыл бұрын
Sociopaths are not geniuses but they are street smart conmen their success is in their belief of their own stories, it makes them very believable.
@tkasiam8322
Жыл бұрын
@@merle-wq9ir was just saying 🤷
@merle-wq9ir
Жыл бұрын
@TK As iam so am I vecause I have been a victim of a conman. I know what the lawyers and courts found, said etc. It was devastating. You never really recover, not financially and hardly psychologically.
@tkasiam8322
Жыл бұрын
@Merle I hear you Merle and I'm sorry for your horrible experience.I now agree, it's a psychopathic behavior and very dangerous, I'm sure he'll is waiting for him with open arms.
This guy is a global syndicate (Bester) I admire his skills
@khongelaningobeni6614
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he might criminal who has committed vile acts but I won't lie, his skills are incredible, and the way he cheated the system never ceases to suprise me.
@NosisaMngomezulu-uf3hv
Жыл бұрын
I agree on that he might have been involved in human trafficking judging at the money he seemed to have been having. People in high tans were definitely involved, it feels like serial killer from Swaziland all over again
On the other hand, they say the guy has stolen thabo better identity. So they looking for unknown suspect
Based on this interview it is my view that the standards set for mind decoders is appearing to be at an all-time low.
@divhanimunyai5158
Жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one noticing that
'The LOVE of money, is the root of ALL evil'...also, this story's caught fire now because of the podcast that made mention of it last week, where Dr Nandipha had come on it months prior to dupe its audience as a flawless/inspirational/sucessful damsel...whereas she was aiding & abetting said convict.
If a lion escaped from zoo an alert is put out to alert communities. On the other hand a convicted brutal murderer abscounds from a maximum security prison and no WANTED dead or alive alert is put out. G4S really has no excuse at all why they didn't notice his cell was empty. Then it means there's no security or monitoring of prisoners, worse now with load shedding.
I like how Dr Gerhard Labuschagne is slicing the interviewer's gossip mongering type questions.
Seriously calls this guy says Bester is not a rocket scientist, yet he comes unprepped for a TV interview. "I don't have my file, so I'm not sure".
Well someone should check if gavin Watson is really dead.......
@daverogers2240
Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that he is dead. Another massive cover up.
@himeshmothi1605
Жыл бұрын
@@daverogers2240 yip fully agree..his death and circumstances were to co incidental....firstly hes driving a Corolla that's not his normal car....considering the high end cars he owned....then crashed at around 200km?.. There was very little reporting on it and no witnesses
@stephanierichards6190
Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's dead to be honest
He’s brilliant because he did stay enough at school to have his mind programmed, grade 5 is good enough, he’s a living proof 💁🏽♀️
@moetidikgole1332
Жыл бұрын
You are right
@davids5980
Жыл бұрын
Yet he got caught and now has to face the consequences of his actions.
@siviwembatane3600
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 mind programmed
This Bester dude is brilliant.... crime is his strength and boy did he do a good job
My favourite criminologist... 😉
@azukentapaneingazi1808
Жыл бұрын
Why? We still waiting for him to decode his mind. Useless interview if you ask me
Let the Govement make a movie Bester will be the star actor and the movie will make lots of money for ANC
He completely lacks self awareness. He sounded so casual about commuting horrendous crimes and he had lots of justification and excuses for his actions.
He seemed like he wanted to be caught from the word go
The Warden must account!
So what can you recall and did you not know that you were being called to Newzroom Africa to discuss Thabo Bester? You should have reread his file and familiarised yourself with it.
This feels like a movie
Finally, arrested in Tanzania.
So Thabo was interviewed 12 years ago and this Dr remembers details vividly even without his file? Seku nomsunery ke ngoku. This is a psyop at best. No wonder this story isn't making any sense.
@leratogao2267
Жыл бұрын
😅
@metisonvic9755
Жыл бұрын
Watching with a straight face and then boom, I come across this gold.🤣🤣
This guy is sick, and extremely dangerous... and since he's caught his life must be danger because there's no way in hell the folks who helped him will let this slide
This Dr seem to can't remember anything from the interview, why did he come on the show unprepared? and why is the host believing so much in the theory that involves politicians?
This is insane
What is his real name ?😂😂 Lets start there
Bester must be one smooth sociopath and no maybe!! Better since jail?! What, has he improved his modus operandi because you can't "cure" a sociopath!!!? They street smart.
This guy is an excellent conman 🤞🏾
No one is talking about his father.. Where is this Dude? Will myb find out that his father is the mostermind behind this hole thing.. 😊
His words and gestures are so tense, almost as if he does not believe his own story. Or maybe he doesn't.
It is so simple with open media get his photo and place it on open Media and because the media the escaped prisoner wil be seen and reported before he can run everybody has a cell phone which is an open widow to not only Africa but world wide !!!!
people obviously didn't take note of the criminal walking around. ..its only now people realising his got a look alike n starting reporting
OMG!! Someone was killed to be "Besta" 😮
@nudawn3432
Жыл бұрын
No. Bester is his grandparents surname
What a joke, you are here to talk about one of your client but you don't have a file on him nearby 🤣🤣🤣
@ronaldjackson5119
Жыл бұрын
Thabo Bester was not his client. Please watch the video again
They we’re definitely not decoding his mind
Not having an ID does not turn one into a criminal.
Is it legal to air out someones medical history like that?
@nadinedirks2238
Жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s not technically a medical history but rather a criminal profile which is different
lets say a member of the public found him gift wrapped him and called the police either no answer on the phone or nobody will show up simple as that
The dead body burnt is a Malawian gardener
The fire hydrant was next to his cell. Why they never put out the fire if cameras or smoke detectors they should have backup system and check to deactivate go off it's due to a power failure alarm notifies you
be cos they were all in with it with him to escape
South African Billy Milligan (William Stanley Milligan).
Thabo Bester is the Michael Scofield of S.A🇿🇦😅😅
Is not a new is now right years senzo case is still on
Sir, you don't have your file with you. Yet you knew you had this interview - you could have done some preparation prior. This is the type of incompetence that is frustrating with this country.
This one did not decode Thabo at all instead he was decoded by him 😂
Mckenzi is full of warawara hypothesis always. No facts just happy to Stir Township Mgozi, he is busy inflating his own ego to try and position himself as important or someone with a scoop. Eintlik he is 2 steps behind the facts. Waaiii.
I smell a cover up
Why would a psychologist do an interview to discuss content of his interview with his client 🤔
@khangelwakhathi508
Жыл бұрын
Bester wasn't his client he was evaluating him on behalf of the state there is a difference and no client confidentiality is attached.
@yaonemogwere6995
Жыл бұрын
@@khangelwakhathi508 still Code practice for psychologists does not make a provision for such.🤞🏿
@etvscandalfanpage2011
Жыл бұрын
The interview or session he had with "Thabo Bester" was made public there's also a video clip of it from News24: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZXZk2bOEg6zZgpc.html
@dot510
Жыл бұрын
@@yaonemogwere6995An exception must be made in certain circumstances, Psychologists are humans too. How can any sane human with running blood and flesh keep such kind of information when it endangers him/her too? If there is none. That is dangerous & stupid of us humans. People have become very demonic, I would n't advise any young mind to enter that profession for the sake of their own sanity.
@dimphomohamed6233
Жыл бұрын
He's a criminologist, his work is to help people to understand what might be going on in this person's mind while he carry out his crimes,could it maybe be his past, or a certain belief I mean God knows what else could be wrong.
Our one and only Reddington😊
🤷🏼♀️One of these days Henri v Breda also "escapes" ⁉️🧐🤷🏼♀️🆘🆘🆘🇿🇦
let's take our soldiers guard our prisons.
@nontoncube8450
Жыл бұрын
Everyone has a price
😊
He is found in our country .. polices are locked 24hrs with him
🤷🏼♀️ PRIVATE investigator ⁉️⁉️⁉️🧐
We dont need to he had a choice to do the right thing or the wrong thing he is a calculated killer and rapest. He is evil with his partner he must get life with no parole
Can someone please explain why the hell no one knows his real name, they never ever i mean ever go in on why the hell no one wants to say his real name, there's someone out there struggling because he stole they're identity, please make me understand whats going on in SA is this all a distraction or what because nothing about this story makes sense, if you were up early there was a report of the Dr being in druban, im telling you they are messing with reality, give us his real name, his mother didnt even say if thabo is his his real name so what the actual f is going on, if you dont pay attention to what they say you will forever be asleep something really wrong about this and so many other stories, something is coming something they distracting us from... PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!
Decoding his Mind?🤣🤣
@sinenhlanhlangwane8572
Жыл бұрын
No decoding took place here ...Even our journalism is poor in this country
I compare Thabo bester to John Gotti
Gayton is correct.
A real sychopath
This was a crappy interview and a waste of time ..., we needed to get a better understanding of the psychological process of his mind, not to hear the Dr's perspective about the case....
I am astonished by what this man has achieved whilst in prison in a country known as one of the harshest conditions in the world. He must have been making some SERIOUS money because his the amount of people who are on his payroll to look the other way. The other inmates may not talk either as I'm sure Thabo 'employed' them too. All those prison employees which must include those as the top of the prison hierarchy and extending into people in the medical field( where did the body come from?) lawyers and accountants covering his business interests. 🤯 Then his girlfriend- a married doctor with 2 children. She threw her respectable life behind to be this man 🤯 He was busted out last May but this has only come to public attention within the last few week? 🤯 This man is a textbook definition of Psychopath but for some (racially motivated) reason the psychologist refuses to call Thabo so. This documentary is wild!!! Can't call it a story because this is no fiction, only straight facts 💯. Fact really is so much stranger than fiction 🤯
people obviously didn't take note of the criminal walking around. ..its only now people realising his got a look alike n starting reporting