Thabo Bester Saga | In conversation with Minister of Home Affairs Dr Aaron Motsoaledi
Home Affairs Minister Dr Aaron Motsoaledi says they still don't know which border was used by convicted rapist and murderer Thabo Bester and his girlfriend Dr Nandipha Magudumana to escape from South Africa. They were arrested in Tanzania last week and were brought back to South Africa yesterday. Speaking to the media in Pretoria, Motsoaledi said police are investigating how the pair crossed the border and when they landed in Tanzania. He says his department is assisting in investigations regarding this matter.
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The minister is straight forward with answers and he's knowledgeable as well. ❤
Dr. Motsoaledi knows what is happening in his Department and he was also shining when he was Minister of Health.
@hoza1752
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
A politician who is passionate and knows his mandate very well. 💯🙏🏿
My Minister. I love you Dr. I am giving you the President position once you finished with our task in your Department. Clean up , clean up, everybody everywhere❤ my sober Minister, always. My vote is yours.
Minister Aaron is very nice and eloquent straight up forward should be deserving of president candidate
This minister is very DESERVING of his position!!! Excellent!
Thabo’s case has exposed a lot of security loopholes in this country. No wonder the Guptas escaped with all their clan right in the face of so-called security system.
One thing about Aaron is he knows the laws and how his Department is supposed to work. His spokesperson is unknown to me and must have a chilled day at his office.
when you listen to Minister Aaron knows what he's talking about he knows .Unlike that clown Bheki Cele
@2mieboo
Жыл бұрын
You can say that again
@emmapbogatsu1362
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@sibonginkosincengani2342
Жыл бұрын
He might be better than Cele because this one lies fluently how can a mother who died and left Thabo in the hands of the Aunt and the mother confirms that she gave birth at Chris Hani hospital , this one is the one is concealing this Thabo Saga or else they deleted his information so that he gets away with this again .
@phandapanda9644
Жыл бұрын
@@sibonginkosincengani2342 Your assessment of the Thabo situation doesn't change the fact that minister Aaron is far more competent than minister Cele😁
@thekothamaga9970
Жыл бұрын
Cele is a painful joke
One of the best minister south africa have❤
@thembanimgenu190
Жыл бұрын
Based on what actually, do you know anything called department of health? Godhan was said to be competent and anti-corruption yet in his portfolio currently he is a mess and is the minister de Ryter talked about and has confessed on that. So don't be confused.
Dr Aaron Motswaledi, is proffesional, articulate, respectful, in him we have a leader!!!
I love this minister, he takes his job serious shem
He is well informed and he knows his department very well.
The only minister that makes sense to me, the rest just cadre deployment.
Poor performance by the interviewer. She believes in gossips too much. Glad Dr Motsoaledi mobbed the floor with her
@ShaqleeToine10.02
Жыл бұрын
Mopped
Didn’t interviewing lady at 18:20 get the memo/heads up before this interview that Thabo’s mother confirmed in a recent interview that she was actually r@ped by a stranger who had given her a lifter together with her sister/friend and that THABO was a product of that unfortunate incident? Thank goodness the Minister handled it sensitively professional.
@BD-rv6rm
Жыл бұрын
I was shocked by the question. Insensitive!
I love how he has identified the problem and his explanation is clear cut. The interviewer needs training though
@whyisthishandletaken
Жыл бұрын
haha what type of training? she was asking simple questions
@victormavundla9846
Жыл бұрын
eg when the minister said "we still have a long way before we have full control of the border" she asked how long but didn't follow up on that question. Would have been nice to know that info don't you think?
Home affairs are now doing a tremendous job of opening birth registration centres in hospitals. Its also happening in Namibia: most hospitals soon after birth its easy to access birth certificate.
@leenaamwaalwa3567
Жыл бұрын
This has been happening in Namibia probably for 7 or 8 years now.
@hillis8380
Жыл бұрын
We heard that in late 90ties in my clinic was stopped due corruption
@musajohannessithole8970
Жыл бұрын
The problem is not what's happening now. The problem is what happened to those who were born during Apartheid. As long as their ID document problems are not resolved, the system shall continue to fail our decendants.
Who is this lady, she's listening to respond, not understand...worse interviewer.
@game5201
Жыл бұрын
She was not listening at all
@viriacssa2003
Жыл бұрын
I came to comments to find if there's anyone picking this...I'm glad I did. She's not tuned and is snappy and rude
the way he told the story like he was reading it, he takes his job serious
The interviewer was not listening to what he was saying
@LavinaYuyada
Жыл бұрын
That's my thoughts too. She kept on interjecting.
@tsholofelomocumi4207
Жыл бұрын
And that is very annoying
brilliant minister ever .
He is the only minister who is doing his work well.
That interviewer asks dumb questions! Geez!
There's no father figure in Thabos life .
@dikeledihlabangane3854
Жыл бұрын
Thabos story of life is sad. His mother abandoned him at the age of 1 n even after granny Besters death she never took him in until she saw him when he was arrested in 2011. Thabo is a wounded soul n hurting ppl hurt people. No one is saying anything about troubled childhood. Apparently her mother was rap@d n dats how Thabo was conceived. 😢
@carcher3279
Жыл бұрын
Graped by the Pakistani shopkeeper, therefore he is technically coloured ... I wonder if he would have grown up to be a different person if the Indian family that his mom mentioned who wanted to adopt Bester had been allowed to take him.
@mapitsorangaka1030
Жыл бұрын
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 I was listening to his background history , I also listened to his mother interview , I said to myself what a wasted life ,this child fended for himself since 1 year old , the mother was a child that time , started schooling at 11 years , no wonder this personality ,.
@langamaphumulo5009
Жыл бұрын
98% of black people grow up without father figures in their homes.I do understand Thabo's circumstances and i am not saying he had it easy,but in life we are all faced with choices:You can either😢 do crime or you can ask people for help! The community will help if you reach out.
@VuyokaziNgada
Жыл бұрын
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 💔
This one is not involved. Thabo did not bribe him 😂
Straight forward answering ❤❤❤
Managing the borders is hard, even UK is finding it hard to control.
@nette2144
Жыл бұрын
UK has too many overstayers! Shoooo. 😢😢😢
You answering each question directly unlike Beki Cele masepa a motho
Wish The minister had a different interviewer, he was so clear but the lady is kinda slow.. there's so much she could have asked but she wasn't listening and kept interrupting tjerr hai
With all due respect, some of her questions are a bit silly!
The more I listen to minister motsoaeledi's story about Thabo Bester it's the more I realise the painful damage apartheid government caused to our parents
@makay3287
Жыл бұрын
Yebo!!! Kunjalo nje and if the reports are true that Thabo was a product of rape...no wonder!!!!!
So from day one of the J 15 ,what name was used for the charge ,trial,conviction ,sentenced, etc etc ?Yo this country .
@NiceOne-bk1ly
Жыл бұрын
This country is a drama series
He was a result of rape, so it’s understandable that he was not registered. One can imagine the emotional, mental and psychological effects of rape on a woman. During apartheid women were often separated from their parents and Thabo’s mother and grandmother are a classic example of life under apartheid and segregation.
@susanlarhubarbe9475
Жыл бұрын
:(
This Journalists at some point need to give ministers who do their job diligently their flowers, all I hear is questions, at some point repeating the same questions and the minister is answering all the questions asked comprehensively.
The interviwer made this hard to flow.
A difficult journey for the whole family.
Dr Motsoaledi is the right man for the job, he is competent and articulate. I would like to know his personal views on 1 Africa without borders.
Have they done DNA test to proove relationship between Thabo Bester and his mom
@natashaabdurahman4026
Жыл бұрын
yes
someone might have payed someone to erase him from the home affairs system. It’s almost impossible to simply go through life without any Identification, up to the age of 37. I can’t believe
You just gotta love South Africa, endless drama.
The South African home affairs system is still very poor, one wonders how many undocumented children are there in South Africa.
*Dr Ntshani not Nancy, the Minister said it correctly earlier.
we need Aaron to be president of RSA
What was said about the TK Kwana id and driver's license?
Haibo, didn't this lady hear that Thabo's mom was R*d by his biological day, who could be Indian. She even wanted to give him to a family in Lenesia after birth.
@dikeledihlabangane3854
Жыл бұрын
She should have done so he wouldn't have turned out the way he did. He was abandoned by her
@nomxhosapekani7966
Жыл бұрын
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 We can be sure of that, maybe criminality was in his DNA. Maybe being told as a kid that he was a product of rape made him angry, maybe been mocked because he clearly didn't look like anyone in the family and the mother probably didn't say who his father was. Too many maybes but no truth yet. I'm not sure if you saw the ANNA series on Netflix, she came from what one can call a normal family but still went on scamming people.
Liesel must get it together...or perhaps her day was blueish?😢
Netflix will not need script writers on this one
My minister 😊
My word!! I heard the same Minister say that Dr Nandipha's passport was never used for traveling..no stamps...
Why would anyone take a 37 year old "child" to register for an identity 🆔 using not the father's name nor her mother's but here own 🤔🤔
@khongelanishiluvana3467
Жыл бұрын
The mother had no Identity from birth until 37, not even a bith certificate. Which means the aunt had to say this is my "child" i failed to register her at birth.
@bonolomayeza4441
Жыл бұрын
@@khongelanishiluvana3467 thank you for your kind elaboration 👏👏
@nkosikhonancube7594
Жыл бұрын
there's a lot of lies in this whole thing , cooked identity and cover up even from home affairs the stories is too much
When Nota was speaking about life sentence criminal release by corrupt high profile prison wardens to commit Heist and murder some thought he is crazy...
So Thabo's highest grade is grade 5? haibo
@promediag
Жыл бұрын
And hem mate with Doc Nandipha at University 😂😂😂😂 he was also studying at an university while he was in prison
@dikeledihlabangane3854
Жыл бұрын
@@promediag he was studying with Damelin
Dr aron always tell the truth 😅😅😅😅
We need DNA please
Oh I get it,this is a landmark case for naming children but I don't understand how he got charged .😜😜😜
@hoza1752
Жыл бұрын
Charged for escaping in prison
For some of these questions, only the trial can establish the facts.
They are many as we speak others are registered by friends or neighbors.
She is unprepared
@ShaqleeToine10.02
Жыл бұрын
Like the BBC interviewer...
Am thabo my father is a south African and my mother is born in Lesotho idont have a birth certificate and I only got my father's document so what can I do to get birth???
Presenter do your homework please or retire there are people who can do that job marvelous.
I Love this man, very knowledgeable, he was a knew his story in Health and now he is also excelling in Home Affairs ❤
@thembanimgenu190
Жыл бұрын
Dr Motsoaledi is just an intelligent man, with a sweet tongue and fools a lot of you. What change in the department of health? This Nicoc he has been talking about for the past 4-5 years. Bhesta and his girlfriend sneaked through despite being wanted with soldiers and security guards he is talking about. So please 🙏🏾
@nomaswazishabba7924
Жыл бұрын
He is a real person I love him too
Can he explain why it has taken his department 3 years to issue my ID? I’m like Thabo Bester now. Must I also not register my kids?
thabo Bester will be killed in prison , the SA correctional service is not functioning well, lets not act like these prisoners do not have weapons in prison and its not easy for him to get poisoned there . this story has just shown how weak is the justice system in SA is , its quite boring to me that the department of correctional service and SAPS be acting like they are doing their job properly. in SA there is just no law .the Traffic, police , home affairs and all these governmental institutions are just useless . They must let him speak for himself in court that man has a lot to say , its full stupidity from the judges to look at this on a one basis , this is very broad . And i would not even be surprised if the public prosecutor is influenced by outside forces who want to cover up the truth and kill Bester , judging by how he flaunted his safety concens . As SAs we seek to know the whole truth
THIS journalist is very weak, was very unprepared, most of her questions were unclear. How did she got there?
Give Thabo a bells.. make him your President and CEO of every organisation.. he's a gift in our lifetime
@Shalom491
Жыл бұрын
The problem is, he’ll con everyone by creating bogus companies and steal from every investor. 😅😅😊😊😂😂
@LeevyMessiah6848
Жыл бұрын
@@Shalom491 mafia state😜
Even in Mamelodi mall, there's a home affairs
South african has many permits....that's the problem....reduce the permits....South Africans don't have work already...why should you allow work permits
Its sad to know that, 62% of black and coloured sistas do not state the name of their nearly born kids. Its sensitive and worrying matter. where are the fathers to raise all the millions of kids born in South Africa? can anyone respond pls, no insult should be directly to any anyone pls.
Hai this confusing now everyday different stories hai
Seriously, one wonders how many girls or women Thabo may have raped or secretly murdered during his short lived freedom. This is scary, women were vulnerable to this psychopath for all most a year.
@sandamza524
Жыл бұрын
but why would he rape when the Dr was giving him everything?
Ntante m my mother Bethsider has been looking for you but you don't respond. She had wanted to help you with something very important. 😢
I registered only when I was in matric.
Thabo for president
@jamez1224
Жыл бұрын
😂
Tom Kelly😂the american fugitive aka thabo bester
So border control fell away when Madiba came to power? Because we were now all friends …
As for securing South Africa's borders it's nearly impossible with the current military man power at hand....our border is one of the largest in Africa...our coastline alone is 3rd largest in the Africa
ridiculous indeed minister .😂
Are they South Africans?
a lot of things happened in 2002 in this bester family , there's probably a lot of lies abt this guy's identity
Something is not make sure here...
@SABC; Please relook into that chair for the guests. It doesn't look comfortable at all.
The interviewer though 🤦♀️
This is an accurate example of law of causality...then you find other people with colonial roots say that the effects of apartheid are over...just look at the mess apartheid left and the consequences...they going to last for generations...as a wiseman once said don't judge me you know my name not my story.
@dikeledihlabangane3854
Жыл бұрын
So tru it goes for Thabo Bester as well. He had a troubled childhood so sad abandoned by his mother very sad
@pennygooms1539
Жыл бұрын
The mother is a rape victim. A gender based violence survivor. Actually he is lucky his mother carried the pregnancy right through to birth since she could have easily sorted out for an abortion. The question is , what happened to his biological father ,the rapist shopkeeper? Was he arrested or ever held accountable for raping the then young woman? Thabo was conceived through a violent act act , he is not a fruit a consenting sexual relationship. Why then blame mother for not bringing him up herself and not the father/ man for the violence and crime he committed against this woman. Thabo's father abused a young poor young Black woman and she had to cope with the consequences .
If you generally don't stop people entering along non-designated entry points, how many millions entered via those routes over the last 30 years? In one go, during special operations, 100s of people get arrested being caught trying to enter at ONE spot on ONE morning. How many millions along the entirety of the border over the last 30 years?
This story is not adding up
Intelligent boi destroyed by system
Why is anyone surprised or interested . The whole country is captivated with a story of a convicted criminal that escaped. It bears testimony to gross incompetence across the board . If this is a challenge are we surprised that SAA , ESKOM , TRANSNET , DENEL and all other SOE’S have failed . Meetings and plans involve postulating and talking , but implementation requires competence and experience . Sadly there are neither so those in senior positions spend their days seeing how they can motivate and approve huge projects for self enrichment - speed on 2024 and hopefully this nightmare is over and ALL South Africans can pull together to deliver the “ better life for all “ that we all bought into in 1994 before the looters took control .
@jackymanyaka1514
Жыл бұрын
ANC can use him for renewal s president
What about ZEP?
@kelumo7981
Жыл бұрын
No more ZEP...zims must go back to their country
@kelumo7981
Жыл бұрын
No more ZEP...zims must go back to their country
So many spookies in SA
Sayname
This interview was about Thabo Bester, why divert. Has Thabo Bester been legalized or is still a foreigner
Australia has many visas.
Do a DNA test on his brothers.
Ke mang o akileo are ye country baeta Pele ba dinaga txa kA ntle ye ba beta melao yaore ba banyake eng banyakang a bangangixa
ZEP holders vs undocumented immigrants what are the numbers here 🤔
😂😂12:09 👍🎖 ANC?
A2a2
Tom Kelly😂😂😂
This minister is lying. Truthful information shouldn't be this difficult to comprehend.
@khongelanishiluvana3467
Жыл бұрын
And you know this because there's a Home Affairs office in your head?🙄
@FunekaMatsolo
Жыл бұрын
Something is not make sure with Bester’s identity & his mom!🤔🤔
@sibonginkosincengani2342
Жыл бұрын
He is lying , what he is saying does not add up all ,it doesn't make sense , probably they deleted Thabo from the database