TF2 VS TFC: The Evolution of the Heavy Weapons Guy

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Intro: 0:00
Round 1: Health: 2:09
Round 2: Speed: 3:54
Round 3: Knockback: 4:12
Round 4: Melee: 4:24
Round 4.5: 5:40
Round 5: Shotguns: 6:35
Round 6: 8:12
FINAL ROUND: 12:30
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End: 16:04

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  • @SquimJim
    @SquimJim2 жыл бұрын

    Yes...I know this happens in the comics. It is literally one of the first things I talk about in this video. Right afterwards I say this video 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴𝘯'𝘵 have anything to do with the comics. I have gotten way too many comments about this that I sadly need to point this out.

  • @thewindwakinghero7423

    @thewindwakinghero7423

    2 жыл бұрын

    this happened in the comics

  • @HeadPats-vi7jm

    @HeadPats-vi7jm

    2 жыл бұрын

    this happened in the comics

  • @mattparis02

    @mattparis02

    2 жыл бұрын

    this happened in the comics

  • @Prophetofthe8thLegion

    @Prophetofthe8thLegion

    2 жыл бұрын

    The video is actually lore accurate considering heavy would have lost if Classic heavy didn't go into labor. What the hell did I just type.

  • @mattparis02

    @mattparis02

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Prophetofthe8thLegion wtf lol

  • @SpireGuy
    @SpireGuy2 жыл бұрын

    "Heavy only has 3 weapons" His other fist: Sad day for me

  • @msi_i_chad3061

    @msi_i_chad3061

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean its technically not like a knife or a gun lol

  • @sardinebloxgx7363

    @sardinebloxgx7363

    2 жыл бұрын

    i made heavys sandvich in real life and ate i- *minigun sounds*

  • @enternamehere

    @enternamehere

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok good one

  • @yapflipthegrunt4687

    @yapflipthegrunt4687

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Stupidventurers apparently bruh means god

  • @elenoajacob4367

    @elenoajacob4367

    2 жыл бұрын

    The fists having a coffee break: when will my break ends

  • @Stalker-ph2ul
    @Stalker-ph2ul2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like in the lore, the TF2 heavy wins, because he's quite the badass. And even quite sneaky, as well as very smart. The TFC heavy just seemed kinda impatient and impulsive in comparison, still smart, just not patient.

  • @toastman065

    @toastman065

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah id agree

  • @tragedyplustime8271

    @tragedyplustime8271

    2 жыл бұрын

    I understand in an in-game 1v1 TFC Heavy would "win" (Technically not since Heavy has no soul, so he can't die), but Heavy normally would kick his ass. TFC Heavy is so full of himself that any mere distraction will work, and Heavy just needs to get up close to beat him to a pulp.

  • @themastergluesniffer

    @themastergluesniffer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean he did beat tfc heavy in the comics after he shot me

  • @theadeptuscustodes

    @theadeptuscustodes

    2 жыл бұрын

    TF2 heavy also killed a mother bear with his bare hands

  • @maddogfromcyberspace2994

    @maddogfromcyberspace2994

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have to be patient to have a PhD in Russian Literature.

  • @sugaryhull9688
    @sugaryhull96882 жыл бұрын

    For the TFC sniper, you should mention how his bullet ammo pool was shared and how he could cripple players with leg shots. And for the TFC medic, you should mention the poison/disease mechanic

  • @jumpinghunter9152

    @jumpinghunter9152

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know, it's more like TFC medic most comparable with TF2 scout, because TF2 medic is SO different that it actually 2 different classes. Basically TFC medic is what would happen if you take a battle medic and give him speed of scout and a scattergun. And a boston basher with bleeding that can not be deleted or cured in any way except touching resupply. In TF2 every class from TFC would be... Well, not great but ok, except medic, because he would be frickin overpowered, even without grenades, due to how much he would be faster than entire rest of the game.

  • @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jumpinghunter9152 TFC scout is actually still much faster than TFC medic (I mean that's kind of the point) due to both having conc grenades and TFC scout generally having much faster movement speed. But yeah, TFC medic is still overpowered that it even makes TFC scout redundant.

  • @szelski.

    @szelski.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-tzzglsstle585e38 scout have spike grenades so it basically can close some bridges and make people go slower But still tfc scout is not good he lacks of double jump and a good damage he is only good to stealin the flag and givin info

  • @ben8791

    @ben8791

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@szelski. Agreed classic Scout takes skill to play it. But atleast TFC Scout is not a scunt

  • @szelski.

    @szelski.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ben8791 nah he is not a scunt he is just a cp enjoyer

  • @bobbyferg9173
    @bobbyferg91732 жыл бұрын

    Seeing the TFC Heavy and TF2 Heavy compared here shows how much of a different philosophy the TF team had when designing these games. Many TF2 players know that grenades where cut from TF2 due to how they were spammed, but I wasn’t aware of TFC’s armor system until now. It was probably another system that was cut so that the game plays better since it is a more complex system than a plain health pool. Just goes to show how different of games TFC and TF2 are

  • @The_Troid

    @The_Troid

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well actually there is a mod call pre fortress which grabs a lot of the cut content and adds it to the game and yeah grenades are broken but not by much thanks to the armor system

  • @doommaker4000

    @doommaker4000

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a relic of id software FPSs. Both Doom and Quake have percentage armour

  • @HOTD108_

    @HOTD108_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@The_Troid Exactly, a mod. Nothing official.

  • @The_Troid

    @The_Troid

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HOTD108_ i never said that is official and sorry mis understud what i said since I'm still learning english

  • @tragedyplustime8271

    @tragedyplustime8271

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say different, just better. TFC is busted. Grenades are unfair, the movement is completely broken via bhops, each class is just too powerful, etc. When a multiplayer FPS reaches a point where you need to become an expert in movement glitches to even stand a chance, I'm sorry, but it isn't well designed. Bhops should only exist in singleplayer FPS as speedrunning tricks. Half Life Deathmatch has this problem too, and that's the reason both games are practically dead while TF2 has survived for so long. Balancing the game towards fair fights goes a long way.

  • @blurmarsh2265
    @blurmarsh22652 жыл бұрын

    Just as I think there's no possible topics lefts for TF2 youtubers to cover you come up with this! Very good video, I'm super looking forward to how this series goes

  • @milesbrewis2375

    @milesbrewis2375

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's going to devolve into a competition of damage falloff vs higher base damage

  • @Hamantha

    @Hamantha

    2 жыл бұрын

    Comics kind of covered it

  • @themastergluesniffer

    @themastergluesniffer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Hamantha yea

  • @goldencheeze

    @goldencheeze

    2 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly, SquimJim getting creative

  • @randomness5513

    @randomness5513

    2 жыл бұрын

    Uh- the lore already had tf2 heavy kill tfc heavy

  • @HOTD108_
    @HOTD108_2 жыл бұрын

    From an in-universe perspective, the TF2 Heavy's victory in the comics can be attributed to TFC Heavy being quite physically old by that point.

  • @roderick04

    @roderick04

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plus an enraged TF2 heavy made it worse for the classic.

  • @jh047o

    @jh047o

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heavy is 57 years old, so it is a fair fight

  • @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jh047o And TFC heavy is like more than that since TFC is at 1930 while the timeline where both meet is at 1970, now combine that to TFC Heavy's age at 1930 which definitely not less than 30. We can even see how he looks when TFC heavy is defeated.

  • @jh047o

    @jh047o

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-tzzglsstle585e38 that means he is either 70, (if we consider he was 20 at the time of tfc) it is not much of unfair fight

  • @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jh047o Him being 30 at 1930 is like the bare minimum, his artwork in the catch-up comic; he doesn't even look like he's at his 30s-- let alone 20s lol.

  • @kelsothesarcasmpirate
    @kelsothesarcasmpirate2 жыл бұрын

    But did we consider that Heavy knows how to use magic.

  • @acrux1918

    @acrux1918

    2 жыл бұрын

    *"KAPOOTIS CRAPPITUS"*

  • @claudioandkindash7761

    @claudioandkindash7761

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@acrux1918 pootis bird is showing a agressive behavor

  • @foldabotZ

    @foldabotZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    *"PUCKTOOM-SHEETUS!"*

  • @andrewstovall2853

    @andrewstovall2853

    2 жыл бұрын

    He didn't consider the sanvich either.

  • @airnomad2650

    @airnomad2650

    2 жыл бұрын

    🅿️ O O T I S

  • @AeroDragon2
    @AeroDragon22 жыл бұрын

    Let's see a firefight, put the pyros head to head. Also, love that you can consistently come up with new ideas for series

  • @Duothimir

    @Duothimir

    2 жыл бұрын

    TF2 Pyro wins easily. TFC Pyro is just plain bad, and the only decent options she has are weapons that rely on afterburn... which TF2 Pyro is immune to.

  • @108___

    @108___

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Duothimir Afterburn stacking via Cannon + Flamethrower and Napalm combo was literally what made Pyro decent in TF. The removal of grenades affected Pyro the most. He is also less stockier than Demoman in TF2 for some reason. Do you even play TF? Edit: Nevermind, it was supposed to be a 1v1, I'm stupid.

  • @Duothimir

    @Duothimir

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@108___ lmao

  • @modifiedapple5522

    @modifiedapple5522

    2 жыл бұрын

    @flint2.0 Why wouldn't they change teams? Only reason stickies don't is because of how they need to be manually detonated

  • @trevorsizzle3705

    @trevorsizzle3705

    2 жыл бұрын

    First She then he and last person said they for pyro. We are getting all the classifications up in here I'm gonna go with classifying pyro as Fire.

  • @lucamaronese3812
    @lucamaronese38122 жыл бұрын

    I honestly think that TFC and TF2 are so different that it would be incredibly difficult or even impossible to compare the 2, but you managed to pull it off so great work!

  • @cburger4life144

    @cburger4life144

    Жыл бұрын

    I know this is old but I’m curious why you say this? Considering the complete lack of TFC content out there I’d say it’s a pretty popular opinion but I don’t get it. TF2 has always seemed like they just took TFC, gave it tons of polish, a new art style and way more personality. It’s certainly an upgrade in pretty much every way but they don’t seem very structurally different.

  • @latortugacocainomana5533

    @latortugacocainomana5533

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@cburger4life144grenades, fighting not so realistic at the time, you can always be fairly fighting if not unfairly powerfull with every class, a medic with a shootgun, a heavy with 2 shootguns, like is literally so not similar at all that many original player literally dont want to play the game because "is to idiotic and childish" when it got announce in 2006.

  • @smackstar1015

    @smackstar1015

    Күн бұрын

    @@cburger4life144 TFC is a completely different game. TF2 leans into the more goofy physics side of things and is less competitive and team focused. Most classes are simple to play and easy to pick up. TFC has a lot more mechanics and features with more complex gameplay. If you ever want to play TFC, it's recommended to play TF2 first, but to not assume that they function the same. Most of the classes are similar in concept but have major differences.

  • @cburger4life144

    @cburger4life144

    Күн бұрын

    @@smackstar1015 I actually played a TON of TFC back in the day. I sucked, but I loved it. TF2’s art styles never really worked for me. I grew up in the ‘edgy’ 90s and early 2000s so this seemed too childish to me at the time and I never really got past it. It looks nice, and I’m definitely not trying to say it truly is FOR children but it’s not for me either. I have played it though, and despite there being obvious differences between two, I still feel like they’re much more similar than they are different.

  • @smackstar1015

    @smackstar1015

    Күн бұрын

    @@cburger4life144 I like TFC a lot, but I started out with TF2, so some bias is present. But in concept, yes many of the things between the games are similar.

  • @BeesechurgerProductions
    @BeesechurgerProductions2 жыл бұрын

    Really eager to see where this series goes! I'd love to see the next video be one of the more radically different classes like Medic or Demoman, but pretty much every matchup is going to have some interesting points to bring up. Overall, a good solid video, and its nice to have some new TFC rep on youtube!

  • @SquimJim

    @SquimJim

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the Medics might be the trickiest to compare overall. They're so different from each other!

  • @HOTD108_

    @HOTD108_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SquimJim I bet the TFC Medic would win, if it's a 1v1 fight, because TF2 Medic isn't that dangerous without a team whereas the original counterpart is surprisingly deadly even on their own.

  • @sugaryhull9688

    @sugaryhull9688

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HOTD108_ Agreed. Conc jumping also helps the TFC med a lot

  • @jackryderproductions1030

    @jackryderproductions1030

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sugaryhull9688 UBERSAW RANDOM CRIT

  • @sugaryhull9688

    @sugaryhull9688

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jackryderproductions1030 I'm pretty sure TFC med would barely survive it because of his medium armour (he would have ~5 HP and no armour by my calculations)

  • @notealistquixx1
    @notealistquixx12 жыл бұрын

    Virgin TFC heavy: - Needs a crowbar for melee - Doesn't even do good with it Chad TF2 heavy: - Uses his fists - Demolishes people

  • @matheusrios4223

    @matheusrios4223

    2 жыл бұрын

    and pow! taunt kill

  • @notealistquixx1

    @notealistquixx1

    2 жыл бұрын

    good point

  • @Killerbee4712

    @Killerbee4712

    2 жыл бұрын

    Finger gun deletes enemy

  • @TheRetroSpeedster

    @TheRetroSpeedster

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Killerbee4712 people who have ragdolls off

  • @sandvichofthesea4910

    @sandvichofthesea4910

    2 жыл бұрын

    "My fists, they are made of steel!" -Heavy TF2

  • @Blucario90
    @Blucario902 жыл бұрын

    yeah TFC can throw grenades while firing minigun, which forces TF2 heavy to either spin-down to dodge the blast or just take the extra damage, the grenades really do it for TFC

  • @nucleus691

    @nucleus691

    2 жыл бұрын

    He can throw em WHILE FIRING? Even if he couldnt, I made a comment saying how Misha would lose in most cases. But having 2 sources of damage like that and forcing the TF2 heavy to dodge as well is gonna make it so damn easy for the TFc heavy.

  • @pingodegonha

    @pingodegonha

    2 жыл бұрын

    So TFC Heavy can basically hold the Assault Cannon with one hand? ok

  • @y100900185

    @y100900185

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but TFC heavy wouldn’t have the time to throw the grenades because TF2 Heavy can kill him in 0.8 seconds

  • @Funkin_Disher

    @Funkin_Disher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nucleus691 yep and grenades can be cooked before throwing too so it would be like hitting TF2 heavy with a loose cannon as well as the assault cannon, not to mention corner spam to make up for lack of pre revving (which is still very fast anyways)

  • @Funkin_Disher

    @Funkin_Disher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@y100900185 TFC players often had a script to automatically drop a grenade on death, so TF2 heavy probably wont walk out alive even if he gets the drop on TFC heavy around a corner or something

  • @unluckycatfish6866
    @unluckycatfish68662 жыл бұрын

    I love how they looked at a spaz and went "Yup thats double barreld"

  • @ratinc.t3748

    @ratinc.t3748

    2 жыл бұрын

    SKARBRAND HATES MISINTERPRETED GUNS >:[

  • @drivanradosivic1357

    @drivanradosivic1357

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the Valve SPAS 12 is some sort of a Kriss Vector like deal with a two shot burst fire mode. Hell, the TF2 1967 Scout Scattergun was supposed to have a two shot mode.

  • @justaserbiandoomer497
    @justaserbiandoomer4972 жыл бұрын

    "Heavy is the most iconic class in the game" Wrong. They all are

  • @karlbischof2807
    @karlbischof28072 жыл бұрын

    The no dmg fall off on the tfc heavy seels the deal, cuz he can just fight tf2 heavy out of his effective range

  • @temkin9298

    @temkin9298

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well as long as there is cover tf2 heavy gets better. Tfc still has to connect shots to kill you know

  • @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    2 жыл бұрын

    It basically depends on the scenario, both can win in different circumstances on 1v1.

  • @honorguard7616

    @honorguard7616

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-tzzglsstle585e38 Keep in mind tfc heavy is smaller hitbox wise

  • @aprettysimplebeing1828

    @aprettysimplebeing1828

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dont worry, the new heavy will figure out on how to snipe him with the minigun

  • @anafu-sankanashi8933

    @anafu-sankanashi8933

    2 жыл бұрын

    tomislav moment

  • @QuintessentialWalrus
    @QuintessentialWalrus2 жыл бұрын

    Man, I didn't know how much I wanted this series. I especially love the art, the fair & balanced discussion, and the pretend TF2 stats for the TFC weapons. Keep it up!

  • @MercySewerPyro
    @MercySewerPyro2 жыл бұрын

    It's interesting how much the unlocks make a TF2 Heavy more powerful, and I can see why they were left out; when your opponent can run away and eat his sandwich, TFC would have a much harder time.

  • @matthewgagnon9426

    @matthewgagnon9426

    2 жыл бұрын

    TF2 Heavy could *try* to run away from TFC Heavy, but TFC Heavy is *fast as fuck* if you allow b-hopping and grenade jumping.

  • @Aaa-vp6ug

    @Aaa-vp6ug

    Жыл бұрын

    The second banana is a lot better here

  • @k9strike931
    @k9strike9312 жыл бұрын

    For movement, you should've taken into account that heavy along with other classes had grenades. This allows heavy to grenade jump.

  • @babaskarma1981

    @babaskarma1981

    2 жыл бұрын

    at this point add bhopping too and you just do the entire map 23 times in 4 seconds, this is just how they walk normally, of course if you use these things so you can go at the speed of light in seconds but that was not the point

  • @tragedyplustime8271

    @tragedyplustime8271

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@babaskarma1981 Glitches don't count, otherwise de might as well take Heavy's infinite health glitch from Jungle Inferno

  • @honorguard7616

    @honorguard7616

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tragedyplustime8271 Soldier loses rocket jumping,engie sentry and demo sticky,as well as medic The grenades jumps are like those

  • @tragedyplustime8271

    @tragedyplustime8271

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@honorguard7616 Nope. Grenade Jumping works for ALL classes, including classes that really shouldn't have it like Heavy or Medic. Rocket Jumping and Sticky Jumping only apply to Demo & Soldier (And Sticky Jumping is practically useless unless you have the Sticky Jumper). Also, I was talking about the bhop as a glitch, it isn't an intended feature

  • @honorguard7616

    @honorguard7616

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tragedyplustime8271 in TF2 pyro can rocket jump ,similar for medic (be it in two different ways)

  • @atlasguytinyproductions55
    @atlasguytinyproductions552 жыл бұрын

    TFC team in the TF2 universe is an underrated antagonist. More of this please, it’s amazing!

  • @inksicle2533
    @inksicle25332 жыл бұрын

    I would so love to see the next episode on the 2 scouts since they both play completely different roles, and im really happy to see more tfc tf2 comparison videos

  • @babaskarma1981

    @babaskarma1981

    2 жыл бұрын

    the tf2 scout is more deathmatchy style gameplay, the TFC one instead, since for the lack of health, is literally "run and capture the point", even the description says that its better to avoid people and go for a control point or a flag, wich btw they are actual flags in TFC

  • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    2 жыл бұрын

    tfc scout just seems like a horrible concept. a weak class that only caps

  • @potatoweaver4116

    @potatoweaver4116

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 TFC Scout is horrible. Like I get the idea behind the concept, but in practice it just doesn't work.

  • @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    @user-tzzglsstle585e38

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@potatoweaver4116 Well, in practice; the concept works, he does what he's supposed to do but his capabilities are intentionally narrowed down that his capabilities are limited to what he's supposed to do and can't do anything else.

  • @potatoweaver4116

    @potatoweaver4116

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-tzzglsstle585e38 in practice it doesn't work because it's boring for the player and other classes like Soldier end up being able to capture the flag better because they can defend themselves. Scout in TFC is useless because he's totally outclassed by Soldier. Scout in TF2 isn't even good at the one thing he's designed for. The idea of a class that basically can't fight back at all isn't a good idea. In TF2 even weaker 1v1 classes like Medic and Spy are very much capable of doing damage and fighting back.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze23582 жыл бұрын

    As far as I'm concerned, "Ol' assaulty" is the canon name of the assault cannon.

  • @bernardonegri5416
    @bernardonegri54162 жыл бұрын

    2:37 I know why it looks exactly like the Half-Life health count, but my headcannon is that Black Mesa loaned some H.E.V. suits to TF Industries. Also, I would give TFC's heavy the win for shotgun.

  • @SquimJim
    @SquimJim2 жыл бұрын

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  • @sparrow5168

    @sparrow5168

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @badegrim7267

    @badegrim7267

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a small thing about before about out a winner play fair if there is no armour then use mod for. 300hp insted that about the Grenades same if the new dont have dont make a compare or whit Thank same force why dont look for the other weapons for Heavy the tfc Heavy dont have SELF heal -1 point if you try to make a video like this stick for a rule insted make up new rules

  • @sparrow5168

    @sparrow5168

    2 жыл бұрын

    o... Kay 🤨

  • @Scout_from_deep_rock_galactic

    @Scout_from_deep_rock_galactic

    2 жыл бұрын

    NOW HOLD ON A MINUTE! YOU FORGOT RANDOM CRITS! I DONT REMEMBER TFC HAVING RANDOM CRITS! IN THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO TF2 heavy WOULD WIN!

  • @Scout_from_deep_rock_galactic

    @Scout_from_deep_rock_galactic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I want to see scout next tho.

  • @rokotigersgamingclaws9554
    @rokotigersgamingclaws95542 жыл бұрын

    TFC Engineer v/s TF2 Engineer would be interesting!

  • @Eer4000
    @Eer40002 жыл бұрын

    This is an incredibly creative video idea! I would love to see someone turn this into a mod so we could actually see a 1v1 between the TF1 heavy and the TF2 heavy.

  • @franagustin3094

    @franagustin3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heavy from MTF was the goat cause he was an offensive class

  • @user-en6px3og2l

    @user-en6px3og2l

    2 ай бұрын

    @@franagustin3094what’s MTF?

  • @franagustin3094

    @franagustin3094

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-en6px3og2l mega team fortress. It was a mod of qwtf

  • @poppy3660
    @poppy36602 жыл бұрын

    I’d love more of this, I’ve been wanting a heavy numbers video comparing completely separate games for a while. Would love more!

  • @ShikiKiryu
    @ShikiKiryu2 жыл бұрын

    Love if you covered TFC more, its underrated. Also would love to see the other Classic Mercs in your drawin style, it suits em.

  • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    2 жыл бұрын

    id say it looks unpolished when compared to cs and half life

  • @thechickenlord9825

    @thechickenlord9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very underrated, but most games with such a chunkiness are going to be appreciated by a niche group as apposed to mostly everyone because the people that stuck around with it have a much harder time thinking back to the difficulty they had with it in the beginning. This very thing happens to other games, the Sonic franchise being a large contender.

  • @SquibGourmand
    @SquibGourmand2 жыл бұрын

    I AM IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION.

  • @SquimJim

    @SquimJim

    2 жыл бұрын

    EXCUSE ME

  • @probablyvinegar

    @probablyvinegar

    2 жыл бұрын

    say please

  • @spongemane9284

    @spongemane9284

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah

  • @3.2187_Kilometres
    @3.2187_Kilometres2 жыл бұрын

    Very informative and well-made video. It also provides a unique look into the different designing philosophys of TFC and TF2. Overall a great idea and fantastic execution. However I don't personally like how you limited the TF2 characters to only stock but I can see why you did so considering how many variables that would bring, if possible maybe you could have a little section after declaring the winner of the "fair fight" talking about how allowing different weapons for the TF2 character would/could effect the fight but that might be a bit much so if I wouldn't complain if you didn't. After all this is still a fuckin great vid and concept so I hope you continue to make them. For the next matchup, I would like to see my main Scout being compared to his TFC counterpart.

  • @sugaryhull9688

    @sugaryhull9688

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can already tell you that TF2 scout would win because the only weapons TFC scout has are the single-barrel shotgun, a nailgun, and caltrops. He really was designed as a scout and only a scout

  • @mehsayori
    @mehsayori2 жыл бұрын

    Please make more of these! I'm lacking TFC knowledge, and this is really helping me

  • @davidlest1793
    @davidlest17932 жыл бұрын

    I thought this was a really fun and interesting video! And I think regardless of which class is chosen next, it will be just as interesting as this due to the vast changes of everything between the two games. I also think it would be cool see at the end of the series comparing each team's collective synergies against one another; it is a team game after all! Regardless, excellent video! :)

  • @MariuigiKhed
    @MariuigiKhed2 жыл бұрын

    14:55 It does make sense. Even though we don't see Boss (aka TFC Heavy in the comics) fight Misha with his own forces, I think he would give him a run for his life, even if without the australium. Remember, Misha had the upperhand via the rage of Ludwig's death, and Boss was heavily injured by him, HE WAS STABBED IN THE GUT WITH A BONE SAW, and still he moves like it's nothing. Misha beated him with rage and with Ludwig's distraction. He would have been Dead Meat if Ludwig wasn't there.

  • @thomashaeyen6942

    @thomashaeyen6942

    2 жыл бұрын

    That makes me question why you can't use australium in any of the tf games. Seriously, there should be a life extender machine as a cosmetic or weapon. The only thing we have right now is a 3d model of redmond's life extender, which is an easter egg in mann manor.

  • @courier712

    @courier712

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude, just call them Heavy and Medic. It's easier for those who don't know their actual names.

  • @MariuigiKhed

    @MariuigiKhed

    Жыл бұрын

    @@courier712 ok, "Heavy would beat Heavy since Heavy showed that he has much more experience than Heavy..." nothing that a Google check couldn't fix.

  • @ps-frag

    @ps-frag

    3 ай бұрын

    Necropost, but anyway, Tf2 heavi killed a mother bear with bare hands so he's incredibly powerful

  • @MariuigiKhed

    @MariuigiKhed

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ps-frag On that case, you have human versus animal, not only that, but a human that knows how to deal with his local wildlife. Impressive yes, but also reasonable for him

  • @lsdcyclops7316
    @lsdcyclops73162 жыл бұрын

    The TF2 Sniper would absolutely murder the TFC Sniper. Just like in the comics.

  • @sugaryhull9688

    @sugaryhull9688

    2 жыл бұрын

    I dunno. I'm pretty sure the TFC rifle does a lot more damage than the TF2 rifle

  • @semihozturk8387

    @semihozturk8387

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sugaryhull9688 huntsman: *Are you sure about that?*

  • @ben8791

    @ben8791

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@semihozturk8387 nah im pretty sure that the classic sniper can kill a huntsman sniper with 1 Headshot since you could headshot without scooping and it will also knock back TF2 sniper and he can finish him with automatic rifle

  • @semihozturk8387

    @semihozturk8387

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ben8791 but huntsman has GIANT HITBOX

  • @ben8791

    @ben8791

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@semihozturk8387 i know but still TFC sniper is really anoyying at close or long range oh yeah if the victim get shot in the feet it would slow him down . Im not saying that the Huntsman sucks but the classic sniper deal more damage.

  • @Xx_Tuberculosis_xX
    @Xx_Tuberculosis_xX2 жыл бұрын

    We live in a society where fists do more damage than a crowbar

  • @sirpikapika1129
    @sirpikapika11292 жыл бұрын

    I’m interested to see where this series goes! From what little I know of TFC, many of the classes are radically different, so a straightforward 1v1 wouldn’t be an accurate comparison, and I’m interested to see how you work around this!

  • @newpersonaplayer9941
    @newpersonaplayer99412 жыл бұрын

    I'd say do Demo vs,Demo cause both Classes have interesting weapons. That could factor in who wins

  • @MrMan-lg6bh
    @MrMan-lg6bh2 жыл бұрын

    Well, I think we can all agree on the fact tf2 heavy would win against tfc in a melee fight.

  • @itexplodes3824

    @itexplodes3824

    2 жыл бұрын

    He did

  • @MrMan-lg6bh

    @MrMan-lg6bh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@itexplodes3824 Indeed. Although it wasn’t much of a fight…

  • @itexplodes3824

    @itexplodes3824

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrMan-lg6bh because someone was definitively winning the whole way through?

  • @MadJack1

    @MadJack1

    Жыл бұрын

    Sad, that even with a crowbar, tf2 heavy wins against tfc heavy

  • @PakistaniGoatMilker94

    @PakistaniGoatMilker94

    Ай бұрын

    Even if tfc heavy has a better melee weapon he would fail to defend against the heavy stock fist taunt kill

  • @8bitalien647
    @8bitalien6472 жыл бұрын

    One of the more unique tf2 videos I've seen very awesome can't wait to see future comparisons

  • @RandomJD
    @RandomJD2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why, but while listening to this I was thinking about the show "Deadliest Warrior" and I was expecting an SFM short with those 2 fighting in a tfc/tf2 map. Sounds cool at least. You did well Squim Jim. You raised questions, and that's the best you can do to a fandom.

  • @Buurazu
    @Buurazu2 жыл бұрын

    This was great, I especially loved taking the TFC weapons' stats and converting them into TF2 item attributes

  • @Neogears1312
    @Neogears13122 жыл бұрын

    I’m really curious about how the spy will be handled. Theoretically both can always beat the other, as they aren’t 1v1 direct duelists so they’re optimal play style would make a direct comparison incredibly difficult I feel.

  • @_kishken_1595
    @_kishken_15952 жыл бұрын

    YES, IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR *YEARS* THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • @MLGProMaster-tu9tz
    @MLGProMaster-tu9tz2 жыл бұрын

    Yoo, I'm not gonna lie, I would love to see you talk about more pokemon stuff. I loved your ice type video and can you talk about bug types next?

  • @thecamper127
    @thecamper1272 жыл бұрын

    In the next video in this series, i would love to see how the scouts differ from each other

  • @flomp8561

    @flomp8561

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @unwithering5313

    @unwithering5313

    2 жыл бұрын

    Will TFC Scout get carried by his grenades or will TF2 Scout's double jump and quick shotgun damage be too much for the enemy to handle?

  • @MadSwedishGamer
    @MadSwedishGamer2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see this for Spy. I think that'd be very interesting.

  • @babaskarma1981

    @babaskarma1981

    2 жыл бұрын

    man i remember that TFC spy was pretty janky, so many menus and that weird dead ringer that wasent really a dead ringer aka cloack its just too much

  • @sugaryhull9688

    @sugaryhull9688

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can see the Hallucination Grenade winning TFC spy a point or two

  • @dr.kolorca
    @dr.kolorca2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how TFC Medic vs TF2 Medic will go 😈

  • @ryguy9876
    @ryguy98762 жыл бұрын

    What I got from this is that the TFC heavy wins because his load-out, while technically weaker, is far more versatile.

  • @unwithering5313

    @unwithering5313

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mainly grenades from what I recall

  • @KittStargazer
    @KittStargazer2 жыл бұрын

    TF2 heavy wins in speed till the TFC Heavy learns how too and starts bunny hopping around lol.

  • @LordRemiem
    @LordRemiem5 ай бұрын

    Just look at TFC, look at how much it yells "HALF LIFE" in every aspect 😂

  • @Fatih_M177

    @Fatih_M177

    2 ай бұрын

    Same could be said for the original Team Fortress which screams Quake! TF2 also to some extent screams half life 2 (Or maybe that's just me, it has a similar vibe so maybe that's why despite having such a different art style)

  • @cyber4053
    @cyber40532 жыл бұрын

    It would be cool to see the assault cannon as a weapon in TF2, faster spin up but can’t be pre-spun would be really interesting.

  • @dhararry7929
    @dhararry79292 жыл бұрын

    Keep this going, I want to see them all.

  • @lazarnephz4952
    @lazarnephz49522 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping to here about one tfc's hardest to master mechanics in this video. Grenade jumping it really can turn the tide of battle especially with a low mobility class like heavy. It takes a lot of health but with skill you can go flying, something the tf2 heavy can only dream of.

  • @topminator1667

    @topminator1667

    2 жыл бұрын

    2 fort invasion ball things

  • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@topminator1667 also pumpkin bombs (bombkin?)

  • @gamingmoth4542
    @gamingmoth4542 Жыл бұрын

    So the only reason why the TF2 Heavy beat the TFC Heavy in the comics is because the TFC Heavy got cocky and decided to do a melee only fight (and TFC’s melee sucks).

  • @Docteur_Hex

    @Docteur_Hex

    24 күн бұрын

    He also was in his late 80's and bleeding That was really stupid of him

  • @storytimewithkitty5303
    @storytimewithkitty530311 ай бұрын

    I just realized the Family Business is the single barrel shotgun

  • @amazingandy007yt3
    @amazingandy007yt32 жыл бұрын

    I love where this new series is going

  • @probablyvinegar
    @probablyvinegar2 жыл бұрын

    the grenade round was unfair, where’s the cosmetic round? also what’s the wet streak for synonyms for my name at this point i lost track

  • @SquimJim

    @SquimJim

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Fashion Round? Good idea.

  • @Pumpkinsmasherok

    @Pumpkinsmasherok

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SquimJimtfc spy would win against tf2 spy in that round no doubt

  • @dogemaster9676
    @dogemaster96762 жыл бұрын

    nice punch out music! one of my favorite games

  • @mochathought
    @mochathought2 жыл бұрын

    Iv learned so much about tfc from this video, can't wait for the rest of the series

  • @void67214
    @void672142 жыл бұрын

    Love the Punch-Out music in this video, man! It’s one of my favorite franchises (which I pray comes back) and the Wii version’s soundtrack slaps, so hearing it was a welcome surprise! Great video as well!

  • @sovelissfiremane
    @sovelissfiremane2 жыл бұрын

    "Babe, wake up. New SquimJim lore just dropped"

  • @TheKoriKasai
    @TheKoriKasai2 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see this for the spy as I'm interested in seeing how different he is in his original with how he is in the current. That or pyro as it was confirmed later in the tf2 comics the original pyro was a woman which doesn't change anything with this type of fight, or I guess any kind of fight, but is still enough reason to put pyro sooner. Ooh or engineer as I heard a theory that the tfc engie was the tf2s dad so, assuming that's the truth, it could make an Interesting experience

  • @woobgamer5210

    @woobgamer5210

    2 жыл бұрын

    i mean, im pretty sure TFC Engineer is 1. One of the few dead before the comics fight took place, 2. Either unrelated or Engineers grandfather, but not Radigan Conagher (Engis dad)

  • @TheKoriKasai

    @TheKoriKasai

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@woobgamer5210 I know nothing on tfc engie, it's merely a rumor I've heard

  • @beastwarsFTW
    @beastwarsFTW2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't Tf2 Heavy do his best Bane impression with Classic HWG's spine?

  • @gottagofastfaster
    @gottagofastfaster2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for putting Punch Out 2009 ost SquimJim always wanted to play this game.

  • @WooHooLadttv
    @WooHooLadttv2 жыл бұрын

    It's like two dads brawling it out over which superbowl wins or something idk I don't watch sports

  • @Ro_Yoshi

    @Ro_Yoshi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol first

  • @WooHooLadttv

    @WooHooLadttv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ro_Yoshi I piss

  • @WooHooLadttv

    @WooHooLadttv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ro_Yoshi I piss

  • @officeridiot4806

    @officeridiot4806

    2 жыл бұрын

    What the hell

  • @Ro_Yoshi

    @Ro_Yoshi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WooHooLadttv :( Sus

  • @exiledhero3791
    @exiledhero379110 ай бұрын

    Well, there’s also taunt kills, like heavy’s 500 HU finger gun.

  • @Richard-iv3ii
    @Richard-iv3ii2 жыл бұрын

    Alternative video name: the red terminator Chad vs. Blue virgene who thinks putting rip off gold in his blood will make him live forever.

  • @Tegrius88
    @Tegrius882 жыл бұрын

    This video was made 10x better cause the punch out soundtrack. Really liked using mr.sandmans theme for the final battle

  • @_alish
    @_alish2 жыл бұрын

    Love it. Do scout next, please :)

  • @Blakethekinght
    @Blakethekinght8 ай бұрын

    With heavy’s2 icon being cur off at the base of his arm I like to imagine he just flipping off the tfc heavy 😂

  • @DunCakes
    @DunCakes2 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it would make a big difference but the TFC Assault canon clearly has a GIGANTIC spread which also limits its ranged capabilities

  • @kiloklavdi1185
    @kiloklavdi11852 жыл бұрын

    I love how you used Sandman's theme to compare 2 huge guys

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme48217 ай бұрын

    Well, TF2 Heavy vs. TFC Heavy was a fistfight, and we know that in Medieval Mode, TFC Heavy wouldn't stand a chance.

  • @Docteur_Hex

    @Docteur_Hex

    24 күн бұрын

    He was bleeding and in his late 80's + fighting a mad af Mikhail so that wasn't all that fair of a fight

  • @Emmypinklasagna
    @Emmypinklasagna2 жыл бұрын

    I would genuinely like to see more of this

  • @AustinH7
    @AustinH72 жыл бұрын

    Now this is a video series I can get behind

  • @elecstorm3701
    @elecstorm37012 жыл бұрын

    ...yanno what? Someone should make a game thingy where you can pick all 19 Team Fortress classes so we can test it out ourselves.

  • @Docteur_Hex

    @Docteur_Hex

    24 күн бұрын

    W for saying 19

  • @RX782GP03
    @RX782GP032 жыл бұрын

    i think i heard a while back that tfc heavy has a slightly larger collision box, which makes him easier to hit, but harder to pass up in a hall

  • @youraveragemedicmain8434
    @youraveragemedicmain84342 жыл бұрын

    Wow This is really cool I really want to see this series this is an amazing vid

  • @NameLess-dh5fq
    @NameLess-dh5fq2 жыл бұрын

    I love this as a series

  • @emred4653
    @emred46532 жыл бұрын

    interesting series, hoping to see more.

  • @fluffydestroyer8336
    @fluffydestroyer83362 жыл бұрын

    very cool video, always nice to see TFC represented some. a note on the mobility, I'd say all TFC classes beat all TF2 classes in mobility because of grenade jumping and bunnyhopping. every class has access to explosive jumping and they can preserve (and even increase) their velocity constantly along the ground. also the games are completely different yadda yadda. look forward to seeing some of the classes that got the most changed (medic, scout, demo and pyro are particularly exciting)

  • @elderdragon1628
    @elderdragon16282 жыл бұрын

    i like to think when heavy was you know getting in the team they said what are you good at first and heavy said i am the heavy weapons guy and they tought heavy was his name and heavy rolled with it so he is now heavy the heavy weapons guy

  • @thehiddencryptid
    @thehiddencryptid2 жыл бұрын

    i like how the tf2 heavy's cosmetics are a mimic of tfc heavy's outfit

  • @Ralfosaurus
    @Ralfosaurus2 жыл бұрын

    SJ: "[Revving] slows the classic heavy down more than the minigun does." BHopping: Am I a joke to you?

  • @solomonharvey-batten8974
    @solomonharvey-batten89742 жыл бұрын

    Firing shotgun shells out of a minigun is the most terrifying thing I think you can do with a gun

  • @Vin_C0
    @Vin_C02 жыл бұрын

    Yo I just realized that Breakfast used Punch Out themes as bg music quite fitting for a big dude

  • @thehcchannel9375
    @thehcchannel93752 жыл бұрын

    This shoud be a cool series

  • @Everik-ct6pg
    @Everik-ct6pg2 жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to hear you talk about Fortress Forever, a source mod that is basically a remake of TFC. For example: Heavy has a special attack with his mini gun that's basically a 360° airblast. Sadly, Fortress Forever is somehow more dead than TFC currently is, so idk if gameplay would be easy to record.

  • @DustD.Reaper
    @DustD.Reaper2 жыл бұрын

    Small idea to maybe even out the playing field, if TFC Heavy is allowed to use the grenades, TF2 Heavy should be allowed to have one Sandvich with him (yes I know it wouldnt be possible for him to carry both a shotgun and Sandvich in-game, but Im just making this point to even out the loadout so both of them have their melee, a primary weapon, a secondary weapon and a consumable. This could maybe then be used for the matchups of the other classes.)

  • @honorguard7616

    @honorguard7616

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grenades would love that

  • @FalkyRocket2222
    @FalkyRocket22222 жыл бұрын

    you forgot to say that the goldsource crowbar is EVEN FASTER if youre actually hitting something

  • @SnowyFoxlinn
    @SnowyFoxlinn2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I've heard Team Fortress 2 so much to the point to where "Team Fortress" just sounds completely wrong... You need the 2 at the end...

  • @theunkillablecat8458
    @theunkillablecat84582 жыл бұрын

    Did you know The Team fortress 1 Engineer is the Father of the Team Fortress 2 Engineer

  • @Docteur_Hex

    @Docteur_Hex

    24 күн бұрын

    It's not really comfirmed, we only saw a picture of Jeff giving goggles to a young Dale, maybe he's just his uncle or something

  • @leopard_123_atl
    @leopard_123_atl2 жыл бұрын

    Good video mate

  • @davitdavid7165
    @davitdavid71652 жыл бұрын

    I wan to see the pyro. Maybe even comparing the fire nades and fire rocket launcher to the flairguns.

  • @supermudkipz
    @supermudkipz2 жыл бұрын

    Looks like it’s time for the Heavy vs TFC Heavy Death Battle

  • @Steamj2
    @Steamj210 ай бұрын

    Bro, you should make a short cinematic animation of the fight

  • @thosdid4855
    @thosdid48552 жыл бұрын

    In the 1v1: TFC Heavy: is winning TF2 Heavy: oh nooo... TF2 Heavy: I have an idea! *summons random critz*

  • @t.o.h.b8501
    @t.o.h.b85012 жыл бұрын

    Also I would love you to compare medic cause of how different they are

  • @bouncydachon
    @bouncydachon2 жыл бұрын

    2:59 what if the TF2 mercs have a lighter stronger more reliable armor and random crits aren’t your weapon getting better but instead your enemies armor failing

  • @captainrumia2607
    @captainrumia26077 ай бұрын

    Dang. If only Mann Co. gave the Heavy actual armor instead of a knit vest. Even the TFC Scout's light armor would help. I'm currently unsure of who is physically stronger. On the one hand, TF2 Heavy has more health, is slightly faster, can punch harder than a crowbar, and can handle the recoil of a more damaging weapon. On the other hand, TFC heavy moves at about the same speed even when wearing lots of heavy armor.

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