How about the most simple fact. Even a player who is omnisciently aware of every spy tell and is coked up on every stimulant on the market, still has to take some time to recognize that a spy is a spy, and I'd consider time to be the spies core mechanic

@TimelessMP

Жыл бұрын

Hon hon hon

@Spencer_TheSpender

11 ай бұрын

Frmech

@wiggle143

6 ай бұрын

“and I’d consider time to be the spies core mechanic” Maybe that’s why all his invisibility devices are watches? 🤔

@Bonnie07237

Ай бұрын

@@wiggle143that’s actually pretty neat to think about

@kyledadumb4354

Ай бұрын

​@@wiggle143 D E E P L O R E

The best advice is literally just to imagine you are playing the class and the team you are disguised as and act accordingly

@mongodroid4842

Жыл бұрын

how to i have a stroke while disguised as scout, i can't do it on command and i definitely i can't double jump as spy

@Someone-nn8nd

Жыл бұрын

@@mongodroid4842 just don't double jump? Scouts don't jump around all the time

@dejviii2283

Жыл бұрын

Problem - I play like I have dementia with any of the classes and thus don't know how to act as that class

@soft8oiled

Жыл бұрын

@@mongodroid4842 This sounds like a skill issue - just have enemy pyro use scorch shot on you and jump moment before it lands, totally passable as your double jump.😎

@RogerDuckman

Жыл бұрын

@@dejviii2283that’s something that will just improve naturally with as you rack up hours.

I have been applying this to my game lately and holy shit disguises do work. It just requires a lot of brain power to comprehend.

@Jontohil2

Жыл бұрын

You’ll get used to it over-time and it’ll become second nature. 👍

@giahuynguyenkim6389

Жыл бұрын

@@Jontohil2 thanks, I'm a pretty noob spy that occasionally get random trickstabs that I didn't even mean to and most of the time rely on fooling the enemy in the first place. Also, justice to default spy, it's really the best way to practice playing the class.

@Jontohil2

Жыл бұрын

@@giahuynguyenkim6389 stock is also my most used loadout, it’s just super reliable overall. And hey, accidental trickstabs help teach you about how the hitbox works.

@giahuynguyenkim6389

Жыл бұрын

@@Jontohil2 I agree, but they are funny nonetheless when I get them.

@CAMSLAYER13

Жыл бұрын

People give disguses a bad rap but spys always loose their nerve and give the game away.

"You can ask your team to shoot you" Something better: say your team there is a spy as you, they would spycheck you. Edit: now that i think about it - this can be called triple acting.

@O5MO

Жыл бұрын

I have not tried to do that so tske it with a grain of salt, but if someone manages to put it to good use, it would be cool.

@techwizsmith7963

Жыл бұрын

"Spy Spy"

@legs9086

Жыл бұрын

@@techwizsmith7963 spy among us

@_TheMushroomMan

Жыл бұрын

@@legs9086 This reminsd me of the tiny lego among us i have somewhere in my room. I dont know where i put it and every moment i fear for my life

@TinTin-qg4tz

Жыл бұрын

For me, if I see a friendly spy disguised near the enemy, I will treat him like the rest of the enemy, just expecting it to either help his act, or get him caught.

I personally like to disguise as a hoovy and just pretend to be friendly, you would not believe how often I get away with a stab because the enemy team saw me crouching and holding out my "fists"

@Tony-bo3rw

Жыл бұрын

Pretending to be the hoovy who is in the same team as you (while disguised) only to stab them in the back is way too evil imo. I prefer using that tactic when I want to be pretend the be a friendly hoovy or a disguised observer :D

@O5MO

Жыл бұрын

@@Tony-bo3rw it may be evil, but its not practical. You are slow, especially when trying to act like hoovy and crouching, and you are at risk of someone accidentally killing you, since you have less hp then heavy. And it only works once or twice if at all.

@Tony-bo3rw

Жыл бұрын

@@O5MO I agree, if my goal was to get some frags I'd rather disguise as a different class. I personally dont like the speed reduction but there's still players out there that can do a better job than me getting backstabs while pretending to be heavies or hoovys

@techmaster9841

Жыл бұрын

Lmao as a friendly, i see this as an absolute evil😂/j (dont feel offended pls i find this funny)

@Tony-bo3rw

Жыл бұрын

@@techmaster9841 no offense taken :)

After watching your last video, I tried to lean more into the acting side of disguises, and I was actually so shocked by how trusting people can be if you actually act like the class you're disguised as. Also I passed a psychology course so that just makes me a really good spy player obviously.

@CAMSLAYER13

Жыл бұрын

We are all very used to spys being pretty bad. They stick out so often a decent spy can really take advantage of the complacency

This is what ive been saying for *years* The disguise kit is so underrated and I honestly wish they would fix some of the bugs with it like missing pyro heads and demo legs so it can be more consistent

@VagueCastle649

Жыл бұрын

At the very least they fixed the shotgun issue.

A tip for some disguises from a 6k spy main. 1. If you jump and double tap crouch near the height of your jump while disugised as a scout, you can fool even highlander teams from time to time making them think you'd double jumped. Spies can't double jump, so they will disregard you for a bit. 2. If a Soldier is wearing gunboats as their secondary... don't disguise as them as they are most likely a roamer. Of course if they aren't wearing the boots or a rocket jumper, feel free to use their disguise. When disguised as a soldier, make sure to reload your revolver when someone is looking at you to reload his rocket launcher, and do it about 2-3 times in succession to mimic an actual soldier reloading his rocket launcher. Since Solder has the most obvious reload in the game, people will disregard you if they didn't know you were a spy. 3. Not much to say about the pyro disguise, although if your waiting around a corner as a disguised pyro, keep your secondary or melee out. Your flamethrower will poke out a lot and give you away. 4. Demo has the same tip as soldier, obvious reloads that you can chain. Or Melee out demoknight yelling "spy!" 5. Heavy, if your low hp running towards a health pack even if facing the enemy team whiile doing so is fine. Or holding out a lunchbox item while enemies are wounded to catch the food item. Free amby headshot this way. If the heavy has GRU, use them if not in a spot where you'd be shooting. Finally, if the enemy team has a medic that is well protected and you don't think you can get a stab, but can get a disguise/uncloak fully. Disguise as a heavy, call medic, and run towards your team. Their team will ignore you since you didn't try to stab anyone, and their medic will often follow you into his death. Or if he has uber, he might uber you at which point try to act like an uber heavy would to lure the medic in deeper to his doom. He also just wasted uber on an enemy spy, so yeah, you made him feel like a huge clown. 6. Engineer, a good sell for an engineer disguise is to hold your wrench out, crouch, and look in a corner where most engies set stuff up. If you know setup spots for engineers this will fool basically everyone but people who spycheck religiously. Of course this requires mental imaging to know where the enemy is likely to go after they look away from you, but yeah. 7. Medic... not really too many tricks here. You do have a unique "ubercharge ready!" command though! 8. Sniper... Additionally occasionally 'reload' your sniper rifle. This will make it seem like you took a shot, which can fool other snipers in the sniper nest unless you know, its the sniper your disguised as. 9. Spy... Really not much to say about this one. Its actually your worst disguise unless you need a disguise while with your team but you aren't going to disguise as your own team. Reason? this subconsciously reminds players that spies exist, and will make them more weary of you. So NEVER use this disguise. Walking in a straight line scout is better for your gameplan than a disguise that instantly flares up paranoia. Additionally a few tips for disguising as team mates. At the start of the round, disguise as a friendly heavy to make the other team think you have more heavies than you do. Additionally disguising as a friendly scout while your running from spawn is often a good thing because you don't have a chance of being seen as a spy, and thus enemy paranoia wont be heightened. They wont think twice about a scout going a bit slow on the enemy team. Additionally Scout is the best disguise to use to do dead ringer fakes because.... well how often do scouts run into sentry guns and die? But aside from friendly scout or heavy or medic disguises (Medic is in the same category as heavy, OR as the scout disguise, its a decent middle ground.) you wont use friendly disguises that often. There is one additional use for the friendly medic disguise if your doing a dead ringer fake, and thats to take a rocket and fake your death while your medic isn't in sight of that team member. This will make them think they got the medic pick and saves your medic. They will also attempt to get closer to you than other classes to get said pick, so you might lure them into a trap to get destroyed while you dead ringer away.

@arctic3549

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’ve never really though of enemy spy disguises like that. I use the spy disguise so I can be with my team and enemy sentries won’t shoot me lol

@Memerath

Жыл бұрын

I’ve actually found decent success disguising as spy when my team is making a big push and pretending to hide amongst them. Take that with a grain of salt though, I don’t really have much experience and that might not work on high-level players

I like to imagine that the Spy disguises are like Ditto from Pokémon. They all rely on the Spy’s memory of that merc, so when he gets confused, you get a Pyro with no head, or an Engie with a knife.

@normal_handle47

Жыл бұрын

yo hes streaming so watch

@unfunnycesium

Жыл бұрын

@@normal_handle47 is he still streaming rn?

@thealientree3821

Жыл бұрын

Thing is, how would Spy not have a head?

@unfunnycesium

Жыл бұрын

@@thealientree3821 he forgor

@cooliostarstache6992

Жыл бұрын

that’s a good hc actually I’m taking that, thank you

A funny little quirk you can do is while performing the A-pose glitch is to swap to the disguise kit and use the engineer or spy disguise and press b. Because the last held weapon is now null and void, the disguise kit will stay in your hand without automatically switching when pressing any of the numbers, and because of this quirk, you can equip the construction pda or the disguise kit on your disguise (to swap out of the disguise kit, type "build 3 0" in the console). It's EXTREMELY situational, since it has a long setup period, and it comes at the cost of either your instakill tool or your reliable backup tool.

@xektor_xd

4 ай бұрын

Now that is tactical thinking

I do like the idea of more ways to be useful by disguising as your own teammates. Like being a body double/Decoy for a Medic or important player or diverting player's attention from the actual player your posing as. Or scaring away snipers away by disguising as a sniper when paired with a friendly sniper. Especially works well with Dead ringer. Another thing is Never disguise as a class in which the enemy team doesn't have. like Disguising as an engineer when the enemy team only has 3 soldiers, 1 medic, 2 snipers and 1 scout etc. Cause no cosmetics and people are going to catch on via just pressing tab and checking the class icons. Unless there is a use for it?

@waker_link

Жыл бұрын

there is a use, a-posing Heavy disguises

@O5MO

Жыл бұрын

Dont disguise as support class when enemy doesnt have them. If you disguise as an engineer, people would notice. If you disguise as a demoman, they probably wont know youre a spy just because of that.

@existingchannel6671

Жыл бұрын

I'm extremely new in general and haven't yet developed the same gamesense a veteran would have, so disguises with few to no cosmetics actually may work better for players like me who are just getting into things. Plus, duplicate usernames are harder to notice than duplicate playermodels.

@colonelrockrits9436

Жыл бұрын

@@existingchannel6671 Huh...didnt know that. Not sure if that's true or unless they'll be too busy with the enemy to check things out.

Start to 0:30 You could fill an entire ship with these fools.

@bullet_outsmarter_5000

7 ай бұрын

Ultrakill go *BRR*

@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160

Ай бұрын

This Prison to hold me?

ultrakill gamer

@herbo24

Жыл бұрын

ultrakill gamer

@edric9137

10 ай бұрын

ultrakill gamer

@mrbaron358

10 ай бұрын

ultrakill gamer

@ink-T

10 ай бұрын

ULTRAKILL GAMER

@zocorzwiftshot

9 ай бұрын

ultrakill gamer

This man is now the uncle dane of spies, can't wait for the new JontoHill servers

@KingKayro87

10 ай бұрын

Jontopia

@gordonf5553

3 ай бұрын

Spy class minimum of 3

@mishagaming1075

22 күн бұрын

@@gordonf5553there should be an option that if more than half the team agrees on a vote, everyone who voted yes just auto switches to spy

2:39 don’t forget that he is also a pyro ON FIRE. I feel that would also be a giveaway unless there’s some religious gas passer used on the enemy team

Back in the day i used to play a lot of spy while pubbing with my friend. That said, i did still play a lot with every other class, spy just was my most used one. So over the months i kept learning how each class ticks, and as a side effect got more proficient with spy in turn as i learned how i ought to act. Meanwhile i was teaching my buddy my way of thinking like a spy, and it became pretty much an arms race of skill as we each got more proficient in the game. Some times hed end up as a the opposing spy, sometimes id end up as the opposing spy. In the end we just accidentally kept training each other to become stealthier and more convincing when playing spy, and more aware when playing any other class. It came to the point where the one of us playing spy would be consistently able to completely dumpster the lobby except for the other one of us since we had trained each other to be so damn paranoid.

had a couple good games the other day, largely from your advice. the other (even more important, but universal) component was movement/outmaneuvering... especially once you've been caught. ducking around any freestanding objects on PL maps or hopping over a railing like on Nucleus... you can get people to start moving one way and then find a tiny corridor where they won't check to cloak back the other direction to escape.

Love the Ultrakill music in some of your videos; It's such a great game!

It'd be interesting to see a Spy tier list following this, including disguises, weapons and tropes like trickstabbing. Basically anything that a Spy would do and how effective it is in general

You can use double acting on a stair stab too by heavily telegraphing what you are going for and jumping just short of top of them so they turn around to counter you and turn their back to you

@mishagaming1075

22 күн бұрын

or, you know, just running after they stand still.

5:52 "amda de ahda uhm ah just-a OOHOOHOHOHOHO STAB"

This entire channel should be the official definiton of underrated, like seriously these videos are high quality as sh*t and i think there are hundreds of other tf2ber channel that are underrated yet high quality that i am 100% sure will be getting the attention they deserve, and this channel is one of em. Great stuff jon, we believe in you😀 (Also i like to think that supporting these underrated channels are like investing in crypto, ask them for a shout out and in the future when they are all famous you'll be recognised by the underrated creator lmao)

3:43 killed me irl bro that was so funny

1:38 I love the way you visualized how we hyperfocus on things that are more important

0:03 B U L L S H I T

incredible followup video! i really like your style of editing. as always, great work :)

Me vlogging my trip to London 0:51

something really evil I imagine you could pull off would be to act like a spinbotter disguised as the enemy sniper to get them kicked.

Snipers are some of my favorite disguises because unless there’s a pyros checking, you can often just fool people.

Holy crap, ur channel is a hidden gem. Amazing videos, been watching for a while!

I remember when I first played hitman (game of the year edition) and the whole idea of hiding in plain sight and disguising when people should be to only trick them. I definitely noticed a difference when I was playing spy. It's like a mindset thing, like watching to make sure no one sees you doing your things that would normally get you caught.

This is easily my favorite kind of video. Of course the main videos are always so amazing, but any kind of post main video that's just a follow up/bunch of random stuff is so much more fun because it's so much more casual and well, follows up on a lot of the information

Based ultrakill music choices and nice sfm/content? Subbed

a niche use I've had for disguising as your own team is to pop dead ringer, a spy dying quickly or just breaking his legs after falling 2 centimeters is an obvious feign but pedrominecraft2007 the F2P stock Pyro isn't exactly what the enemies will think of as a good player and they're honestly expected to just die without a fight, and dying whilst looking like a random enemy that was in no way a spy is a good way to get a convincing feign.

subbed, thank you so much for highlighting how awesome disguises are!!!!!!!!!

I'm trying so hard to get back into TF2 after a 3 year hiatus. Spy's always been my favorite class, and these videos have definitely made an improvement, tho most of the time I still screw it up. Love your content!

Suggestion: how spy act in each team (defence and offence)

@giahuynguyenkim6389

Жыл бұрын

For disguises to work, play all class

bro, i want to thank you for helping me trying to get good at spy. These tips with disguises, paranoia, and and cloak stuff really helped me. I'm a scout main trying to play spy as he is my least played class and I want to try and main him and see what happens. yesterday, I got a triple stab and these player genuinely believed that I was a sniper, engineer, demo, etc. Thank you bro.

love the ultrakill intro also great video very motivated to play spy now!

I appreciate the TFtubers that still educate people on the game, watching this video reminded me of when I first started playing Spy.

There was this recent moment that really got me. I was on defense at the beginning of the round. Some teammates and I managed to pin down a demo, soldier, and medic. My group and I took down the two power classes with relative ease, and I was going as a Pyro with the Dragon's Fury to land three fireballs on the medic for an important pick. Guess what happened next? The medic turned out to be a spy, which left me open for a quick ambush once I realized such. Clever spy...

I convinced an australium black box soldier to move in front of me while disguised as a heavy. Thank you Jontohil2.

God i love when you put those cut short screams they’re so good ☠️

Imagine telegraphing a trickstab that you're not going to do to catch the enemy off gaurd and escape.

I cannot believe that the first spy featured in the video is named "Dubspol", which is a DEEP dig at the STAR_ and Jerma videos way back when. Holy shit. Great video boss. Editing is A1.

This channel is really underrated, you deserve way more subs dude

Using friendlies like that is spychological torture.

2:30 oh i also think he was a spy because HE IS BURNING AS A PYRO

Another awesome video, great job!

I apreciate the ultrakillness of the editing

I like that you put music in this video from ULTRAKILL.

Hey, just wanna say, i loved the first video about disguises, I mean the fact you went so deep as to see cosmetics and try to act like you had as much experience as someone with those cosmetics would was kinda funny, but also really interesting, and I kinda wanna see gameplay of that now lol

Best education for spy and you had some good taste on Ultrakill ost

just watched your previous video, im definetly improving, im now getting a kd of 1 instead of 0.5 which is a good improvement

Really good content man :)

Hey man, your videos are fucking awesome, I'm genuinely having more fun playing spy thanks to your tips!

It is nice to see new tf2 videos from a new creator i wish u luck

Didnt expect death odyssey after the one voice evryone uses as v1 in a tf2 video

cool as video, + cool music used

When im bored i sometimes just diguise as an engineer, i find a dispenser and pull out my wrench and pretend im doing something. Ppl will just walk past me most of the time. I go for the kill if i feel like it but i mostly vibe with ppl who came for healing.

@saparapatepete

Жыл бұрын

"yup, that looks like engineering"

immediately hearing death odyssey at the start though just tells you how good this guy is

I watched this before playing ULTRAKILL so I was surprised by the background music on a re-watch

Another amazing spychology video.

Man I got fooled for the first time by a spy acting and it really threw me for a loop

Ultrakill reference heard. Subscribing.

Personally I like to go friendly as spy and disguise as my own teams heavy so that whenever someone is nice back I can cloak and fade away like a ghost

your channel is soo underrated

I am a subscriber now thank ye for the information jonto!

congratz on your recent success man

My favorite technique for escaping a bad situation as a spy when they know you're a spy. 1: Turn a corner. 2: Drop disguise. 3: Break out your disguise kit. 4: Become the spy crab. 5: Pray that the enemy team has mercy.

5:56 Bro just got a Neuron Activated 😂😂😂

3:47 you killed pootis

i like your editing thank for the france tutorials

3:39 this part was so funny to me cause the heavy was fully convinced his salvation had come but it was his demise LOL

this series helps a lot thanks

Another great episode of Spychology yes sir

really nice effort in video should get more subs

Literally, the first spy that stabs you in a video is a reference to Jerma and Star and if that doesnt fit a video about shpee's IDK what will. Well done boss, banger video

underrated channel, subbed

Spy is my second least played class but you have helped me want to try him out again. Thanks.

I love how stylish this series is

My man’s didn’t even count the pyro being on fire as a giveaway for the spy

clicked on this video wanting to learn about spy. was hit in the face with PTSD from ultrakill... It has been over a year. I have just woken up. 10/10 amazing video i am way better now

2:30 not only that but he was on *FIRE* And i wouldn't even realise it if you didn't mention it

Kind of a cool thing that I'm not sure was talked about, scouts using the baby face blaster will move slower making it a bit easier for people to fall for you disguise

@sebrasebra

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but nobody is going to look at your gun for long enough to see if it’s a baby face blaster when they can just shoot 1 shot to spycheck you

I love these spychology videos, there really helping me play as spy easier

Now I am an actor type spy.) Thanks to you.) Right now I am continously not learning how to trickstab. Just to practice this buetifull art. I an kinda new to the game , and my biggest killstreak is around 9.(and this killstreak was on my most played scout , and never been achieved once again.) ,Yet by simply acting and using terrain properly (with cloak and dagger) I managed to reach 5 killstreak as spy. Thank you for your videos.

I've actually tried these strategies out lately after the first video, and it definitely works a lot better and is so much goddamn fun

Death Odyssey jump scare. My heart rate shot up immediately

There should be a video on how to set up disguise-related binds. I think dedicated buttons for common disguises (medic with the medigun, sniper, engineer with a wrench, pyro with a secondary) and three buttons to instantly switch the disguise's weapon to primary/secondary/melee then quickswitch to your previous weapon are useful.

"I hope you get random crited" is my new favorite curse

I just started playing tf2 yesterday and now you’ve made me super paranoid of spies

How the hell does this man only have 6k subs this man is fucking amazing at editing and an amazing youtuber overall

Man this video was fun as heck

This is some great spycology you got there

‏‪2:34‬‏ the reason why tf2 is my favourite is because of some of these panic moments with someone that after the panic both of you laugh

1. I watch these video's 2. I get motivated 3. I bootup tf2 and play spy 4. I die to the enemy pyro 5. I close tf2 again 6. I watch a video again 7. Repeat

Pyro mains with paranoia spychecking every damn corners

i didnt even see 10 seconds of this video and its already blasting ultrakill ost,i like it

I love this spychology series!