Tether: The $100,000,000,000 Problem in Crypto - Episode 144

Cas Piancey and ‪@bennettftomlin‬ discuss the history and present of Tether, the most important firm in all of cryptocurrency.
This video was recorded on February 4th, 2024.
Read more: cryptocriticscorner.com/2024/... in a new tab)
Additional episodes mentioned in this episode:
Playlist of video about Bitfinex and Tether
• Tether and Bitfinex
Episode 1 - Tether: A Stable Discussion
• Tether: A Stable Discu...
Episode 2 - Tether: A Stable Discussion Continued
• Tether: A Stable Discu...
Episode 83 - Contagion and Cascading Liquidations in Cryptocurrency
• Contagions and Cascadi...
Episode 6 - Crypto Capital Corp: the quiet billion dollar cryptocurrency scam
• Crypto Capital Corp: t...
Episode 110 - Tether Falsified Bank Records (reportedly)
• Tether Reportedly Fals...
Episode 127 - Let’s talk about Number Go Up with Zeke Faux
• Let's talk about Numbe...
Playlist of videos about FTX, Alameda Research, and Sam Bankman-Fried
• FTX, Alameda Research,...
Episode 34 - The Tether Papers (featuring David Canellis of Protos Media)
• The Tether Papers (fea...
Video about Genesis Block and Alameda Research
• How Sam Bankman-Fried ...
Episode 35 - Stablecoins will Fork your Chain if they Want to Fork
• Stablecoins will Fork ...
Episode 70 - The Rise and Fall of Reggie Fowler
• The Rise and Fall of R...
Additional resources:
Coverage of Tether Q4 Attestation
protos.com/tethers-growth-and...
Coverage of Tether Luganodes investment
protos.com/luganodes-tethers-...
Bennett's newsletter about Bitfinex audits
us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=16...
Coverage of leaked Ledger Labs report
protos.com/giancarlo-keys-man...
Nathaniel Popper Tweet
/ 933130228175552513
Coverage of Tether onboarding FBI and Secret Service
protos.com/tether-gives-fbi-p...
Wall Street Journal report on Harborne activity
www.wsj.com/articles/crypto-c...
The Tether Papers
protos.com/tether-papers-cryp...
Coverage of Genesis Block
protos.com/hiveex-genesis-blo...
Other places to find Crypto Critics' Corner
Website: cryptocriticscorner.com/
Discord: / discord
Bluesky: bsky.app/profile/cryptocritic...
Mastodon: mstdn.social/@CryptoCriticPod
Twitter: / cryptocriticpod
Instagram: / cryptocriticpod
TikTok: vm.tiktok.com/TTPdPN2hK9/
Bennett's KZread: ‪@bennettftomlin‬
Bennett's D&D KZread: ‪@BTDND‬
Bennett's BlueSky: bsky.app/profile/bft.wtf
Cas' BlueSky: bsky.app/profile/caspiancey.b...
Bennett's Mastodon: mstdn.social/@bennetttomlin
Bennett's Twitter: / bennetttomlin
Cas' Twitter: / caspiancey
Bennett's Newsletter: TheFUDLetter.com/
Cas' Blog: / thecaspiancey
Bennett's Blog: bennettftomlin.com/
Timestamps:
#crypto #cryptocurrency #podcasts #listenable #tether #bitfinex #usdt #leo

Пікірлер: 125

  • @bennettftomlin
    @bennettftomlin4 ай бұрын

    I said “deferred settlement” when I meant “deferred prosecution” way too often in this episode

  • @joweb1320

    @joweb1320

    4 ай бұрын

    All good!

  • @Oneofakind123

    @Oneofakind123

    4 ай бұрын

    Deferred scam is the correct terminology.

  • @defective6811

    @defective6811

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe we can forgive you someday. Someday.

  • @edd0055
    @edd00554 ай бұрын

    I was literally just wondering if crypto critic's corner would ever be back, "maybe there are no more scams to be covered in crypto?"

  • @CryptoCriticPod

    @CryptoCriticPod

    4 ай бұрын

    One or two left

  • @bacool

    @bacool

    4 ай бұрын

    Hell will freeze over first before that happens lol

  • @richardlivings8640

    @richardlivings8640

    4 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @NuanceOverDogma

    @NuanceOverDogma

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CryptoCriticPodYou guys still simping for Elizabeth Warren & CBDCs?

  • @L9MN4sTCUk

    @L9MN4sTCUk

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CryptoCriticPod you forgot to give credit to the Crypto bros. This is a pro crypto channel saying the exact same thing about Tether being an FTX like scheme, 40:45 mark. But said a year earlier. You can't claim to be the voice speaking the criticisms that crypto bros don't want anyone to hear. You need to honest and cite your sources even if it's a crypto bro source. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJOuptOAp7ankps.html

  • @tle4596
    @tle45964 ай бұрын

    They return!!!

  • @sansmuch
    @sansmuch4 ай бұрын

    You! You're back! So happy to see you guys.

  • @jnnx
    @jnnx4 ай бұрын

    CasCoin is back!

  • @Mexenstein

    @Mexenstein

    4 ай бұрын

    Bullish

  • @andrewfriedrichs9340

    @andrewfriedrichs9340

    4 ай бұрын

    🚀🌕

  • @JimWitschey

    @JimWitschey

    4 ай бұрын

    Paper hands over here talking like CasCoin ever left

  • @yudelmartinez29

    @yudelmartinez29

    4 ай бұрын

    And it got some fat money injection

  • @Labbfreak
    @Labbfreak4 ай бұрын

    Happy to see y’all back & excited to see this topic. I’ve been thinking about Tethers standing and what’s next since reading Zeke’s book (and listening back to your old episodes about the 2018 issues)

  • @SamRocher
    @SamRocher4 ай бұрын

    Great discussion and good points. It's really annoying to see amoral companies thriving while the world is on fire while governments bend over backwards for them because they've already obtained so much money. Imagine if a mom and pop shop took those same actions XD

  • @richardlivings8640
    @richardlivings86404 ай бұрын

    Curse my paper hands… I thought you’d rugpulled and so I sold all my cascoin.

  • @sriniamoudane2840
    @sriniamoudane28404 ай бұрын

    Tether is so great at finance, they can't tell the difference between Net Assets on their Balance Sheet from Net Income from their Income Statement.

  • @Mjsmecha

    @Mjsmecha

    4 ай бұрын

    Duh net assets are all the nets in your inventory, and net income is the money you make from catching crypto with your nets during the year. I'm not a business idiot. 😂

  • @SuperPhunThyme9

    @SuperPhunThyme9

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@Mjsmecha yeah why do you think they call it liquidity

  • @bennwalton
    @bennwalton4 ай бұрын

    you guys are fuckin awesome thank you for continuing to publish content

  • @allie_hart
    @allie_hart4 ай бұрын

    The boys are back!

  • @ChrisWhittleston
    @ChrisWhittleston4 ай бұрын

    Great to see you back guys!

  • @glebski1531
    @glebski15314 ай бұрын

    Great to have you back ! Surreal to hear about the recent direction/pivot of Tether. Can you do an pod on the recent case involving extradition of 2 crypto dudes from Estonia to the US?

  • @Jw-hv2pz
    @Jw-hv2pz4 ай бұрын

    Welcome back guys, you were missed! After reading Zeke Faux's book I gained a newfound appreciation for your extensive coverage of Tether. Zeke gave real world examples of how useful Tether is for criminals in their efforts to turn dirty money into clean money. For that reason, Tether has been the biggest boon to criminality since the invention of the handgun. Therefore, it ain't going nowhere.

  • @sanshaj
    @sanshaj4 ай бұрын

    So glad to see you back!

  • @aperson9556
    @aperson95564 ай бұрын

    Hooray!! You are alive!!

  • @slaeeee
    @slaeeee4 ай бұрын

    I have been waiting for y'all's next podcast with bated breath and super excited that it's about Tether!

  • @historichistory9992
    @historichistory99924 ай бұрын

    YES! The return!

  • @rosmarinaus
    @rosmarinaus4 ай бұрын

    You're back! This channel has been showing up in my feed, and every time I check the date. Up to today, older material that I've probably watched. Not today! Yay!

  • @Frazec_Atsjenkov
    @Frazec_Atsjenkov4 ай бұрын

    Great to see you guys are back at it. When something fails to happen that does not prove that there was no risk of it. You guys always manage to make a sound argument. That is what I value. Cheers

  • @codygunter4379
    @codygunter43794 ай бұрын

    Oh what a treat, thank you for this great surprise.

  • @joweb1320
    @joweb13204 ай бұрын

    You two should have a 100 million views!

  • @Roger_Smith
    @Roger_Smith4 ай бұрын

    As chaotic as it would be i kind of want to see the fallout of tether getting raided and having its assets seized

  • @ZACHONLINE
    @ZACHONLINE4 ай бұрын

    I was just checking this channel yesterday!

  • @TheaCassidy713
    @TheaCassidy7134 ай бұрын

    so good to have you back! missed this podcast :D

  • @Grumpious_Maximus
    @Grumpious_Maximus4 ай бұрын

    Glad to see you guys back at it. Thanks for the content, and all the energy it takes to make it. Best of luck in 2024.

  • @coopermorgan9570
    @coopermorgan95704 ай бұрын

    Holy moly glad you guys are back , missed your content so much

  • @hotblackdesiato3022
    @hotblackdesiato30224 ай бұрын

    Glad to see you back.

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked54264 ай бұрын

    33:14 Cas Coin is like onions in that it has layers & the crying is just incidental

  • @Mystician
    @Mystician4 ай бұрын

    You guys continue to assume that Tether has the money they claim, despite there never being conclusive evidence of this. They've never submitted to a formal audit. Why would you assume they're telling the truth when they've been caught lying over and over? Your reasoning makes no sense. How can you admit Tether has serious problems and then say you believe they're "fully backed?" How does that add up? Are you using the same firm for your reasoning that Tether has hired for their accounting?

  • @andrewpascal6096
    @andrewpascal60964 ай бұрын

    Finally another one of these

  • @markiews
    @markiews4 ай бұрын

    The Sam Bankman-Fried of it all

  • @fassin666
    @fassin6664 ай бұрын

    Omg welcome back gents!

  • @mbw0826
    @mbw08264 ай бұрын

    Isn’t Tether complying with law enforcement and freezing addresses just a means to look legitimate to law makers and regulators? They aren’t freezing addresses of Tethers actual clients. They are freezing addresses of tethers that have already been circulated in the ecosystem correct? Other than the question of full backing, hasn’t a lot of the skepticism towards Tether been regarding the legitimacy of their large clients ? Clients other than FTX too

  • @Royboy1785
    @Royboy17854 ай бұрын

    Attestation matters, audits matter, billions matter!

  • @alexhubble
    @alexhubble4 ай бұрын

    Good to see you chaps!

  • @geocreative
    @geocreative4 ай бұрын

    Missed you guys!

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked54264 ай бұрын

    Cas Coin's BACK 🐉🐲💰Happy Year of The Dragon!

  • @gertrudlehmann4869
    @gertrudlehmann48694 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @xJAKEx117x
    @xJAKEx117x4 ай бұрын

    About time... I almost thought the Crypto shennanigans were on hold or something sonce you guys haven't uploaded for a while. Hopefully just a much earned vacation for you guys, hope all is well.

  • @QuestioningYourSanity
    @QuestioningYourSanity4 ай бұрын

    I'm in for 96 billion CasCoin!

  • @raphaelsale775
    @raphaelsale7754 ай бұрын

    Hey, you're just the right person to kick off a petition and get this thing rolling. We should ask for a real third-party audit. I'm all in to support you on this. Why wait, right? If we don't do something, nothing's going to change. Let's team up and make it happen!

  • @IsleyNumber1
    @IsleyNumber14 ай бұрын

    We're so back

  • @user-ef7in9or8w
    @user-ef7in9or8w3 ай бұрын

    i would love to hear ur guys opinion about how tether is gonna comply (or not) with the upcoming mica legislation in Q3?

  • @gonzalotoscano3310
    @gonzalotoscano33104 ай бұрын

    Would you look at these handsome fellas talking about good old Tether, great to see you guys.

  • @JankYGO
    @JankYGO4 ай бұрын

    I disagree with the sentiment that Tether is fully (or close to fully) backed. I stopped keeping close track but if you read through their 2021-2022 attestations the surplus was constantly hovering between 137 and 162m before the 2022 crash, where the crypto market cap more then halved. As this happened their other assets (including digital currencies) was a significant part of the portfolio (3-8%). Either they have financial garden gnomes that are so good that they can hedge and diversify enough to always have a stable portfolio (that includes crypto during a massive crash), or they make sure their attestations always show that they're solvent even though they had a 5 billion investment in bullshit during the crypto crash and came up with a similar surplus like nothing ever happened.

  • @Mystician

    @Mystician

    4 ай бұрын

    The Attestation basically reports what they report to a shady accountant who signs a piece of paper that says, "Here's what Tether told me." It is totally inconclusive. It's important to note that had it not been for the New York Attorney General suing them several years ago, the truth wouldn't have come out that they weren't 1:1 backed in the first place. It was only after they were sued and evidence came to light, that it was discovered they were lying about their reserves and were actually using crypto itself as "liquidity" for their tokens.

  • @JankYGO

    @JankYGO

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah for sure. I was shining light on how obvious bullshit the attestations are and that it makes no sense they would look like this if Tether was actually solvent (even if they couldn't get away with audits while hiding money laundering or other shady business) @@Mystician

  • @Dannnnn375

    @Dannnnn375

    4 ай бұрын

    They work for Protos, a pro crypto company. Compromised.

  • @JankYGO

    @JankYGO

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks, yeah. Found out through Sal's article. Had never really followed this properly so was kinda surprised with their change of heart. There is nothing indicating they have new information to prove Tether is backed. The "they're money laundering criminals so they're probably backed" is some flawed logic. @@Dannnnn375

  • @fpickett4579
    @fpickett45794 ай бұрын

    Hang in their folks sending positive vibes and appreciation…truth matters thanks!

  • @doodlebug1820
    @doodlebug18204 ай бұрын

    They are backed by assets but how stable are those assets? I am not understanding how massive risk takers are OK with holding money market funds or cash or treasuries

  • @pascalmuller1903
    @pascalmuller19034 ай бұрын

    Iiiiiiiiiiits back!!!

  • @Kawiboy
    @Kawiboy4 ай бұрын

    Their "Tools" Alright fellas 😂🤣✌️ Appreciate your insight 👊😉

  • @matthewstahler6525
    @matthewstahler65254 ай бұрын

    I love the Vonnegut shirt

  • @shubhampk7091
    @shubhampk70914 ай бұрын

    finally!!!

  • @Dannnnn375
    @Dannnnn3754 ай бұрын

    Not sure about your assertion the tether is probably fully backed. Surely the only stance to take is, “produce an audit or you’re hiding the fact that you aren’t fully backed”. What lead to your change in tone in this podcast?

  • @REEEEDACTED
    @REEEEDACTED4 ай бұрын

    yay!!!!!!

  • @meyroakabigrem1679
    @meyroakabigrem16794 ай бұрын

    Tether should never be used as a store of value. We have Bitcoin for that.

  • @FailMachineInc
    @FailMachineInc4 ай бұрын

    let’s goooo

  • @yourdude5260
    @yourdude52603 ай бұрын

    When the tether scam implodes, you two will be famous! Mark my words!!

  • @gbxmusicchannel3836

    @gbxmusicchannel3836

    3 ай бұрын

    I went to sleep 8 hours and woke up. 400 million more tether printed.

  • @wamingo
    @wamingo4 ай бұрын

    Tether has been quiet about why no audit, but why are regulators quiet about no audit? Or are we waiting for regulations from lawmakers who might prefer no audit?

  • @elskid206
    @elskid2064 ай бұрын

    Glib. Thank you. Yes, I also like the word snarky. I literally turned off the video when you were being glib. I wasn't going to sit here and listen to somebody entertaining themselves while I'm looking for solid information. The only reason why I came back to this video is because a friend of mine then shared it a couple hours later. Said it was worth the watch. I said. I can't believe you. This guy sounds like a smart-ass high school kid. But you had good information. I'm glad I came back. We're dealing with a revolution here!! Let's keep our eye on THAT ball. It's hard to tell the scammers and the losers from the people who are going to be important in this industry What do you want to look like?

  • @elskid206

    @elskid206

    4 ай бұрын

    Because there's a massive amount of money in and around tether, it is a great target for the government to come in and steal money from them under the guise of regulation. But also my fear is not that they will shut down targeted people, but that at some point it will become just another institution controlled by people who have control over everybody in the system. The whole purpose of Bitcoin is TRUSTLESS, that there's NO control over it. So I would trust tether in the short term, but sooner or later it's no better than JP Morgan or Well Fargo if the government can come in and say shut it down.

  • @pomp4401
    @pomp44014 ай бұрын

    This will age like milk

  • @back2d_lobby
    @back2d_lobby4 ай бұрын

    Awesome discussion. Tether is gatekept too. Only a matter of time before a big write up . I think they're shady af, but they've played a good game that tradfi slept on and now have to deal with

  • @Polipo88
    @Polipo883 ай бұрын

    Please invite Devasini to your next episode!

  • @markklatt1670
    @markklatt16703 ай бұрын

    Ive heard an interesting theory that the Fed uses USDT to control Bitcoin... so that its already basically part of the "new financial system" I could see the Goldman Sachs type try to depeg it and rug it? Idk tho. JP Morgan basically claimed ETH already. Does Wall St really want a rug?

  • @4betjam604
    @4betjam6044 ай бұрын

    Tether keeps getting a pass… interesting isn’t it?

  • @joeroberts5428
    @joeroberts54284 ай бұрын

    Tether transitioning to liberty reserve 2? Just forget the blockchain part, do minimal compliance and use liquidation threats to hold governmens at bay?

  • @bobmccall9725
    @bobmccall97254 ай бұрын

    It is not a Honey pot. It is a slush fund.

  • @RideReport
    @RideReport4 ай бұрын

    What about Binance?! Huge Binance news dropped during the hiatus. Will we get a breakdown of what happened and what it means for crypto? This seems like major news that nobody is talking about.

  • @thetravelingsasquatch1954
    @thetravelingsasquatch19544 ай бұрын

    I come here for the affirmation that crypto is trash and that being dumb is a human super power. Thanks, fellas, you’re my long commute cope. 😘

  • @TheManInBush
    @TheManInBush4 ай бұрын

    New tokens to old holders? here I am still waiting on my v1 tokens....

  • @mrcalvados1
    @mrcalvados14 ай бұрын

    they have the seed to the money tree

  • @sunnohh
    @sunnohh4 ай бұрын

    I was having withdrawals and starting to think crypto stopped existing!

  • @carlkligerman1981
    @carlkligerman19814 ай бұрын

    Any body holding crypto who doesn’t watch this, or, worse, watches a few minutes and runs away screaming FUDDDD before returning to day care at Crypto Banter, exuberantly exclaiming ‘gm fam’ just ain’t serious, and have no idea what they own. Lambs to the slaughter. It’s depressing, and telling, that this channel isn’t bigger.

  • @alexhubble
    @alexhubble4 ай бұрын

    7:45 - the only question is why are they not in prison for money laundering? If they hold the money one-for-one and return it unused maybe. But if they investing? They use someone's money for as long as they want. And distribute the profits who knows where. How not laundering?

  • @hulkingmass
    @hulkingmass4 ай бұрын

    boys

  • @adhdengineer
    @adhdengineer4 ай бұрын

    Cascoin ETF when?

  • @ratcitywoodwork
    @ratcitywoodwork4 ай бұрын

    damn all this time i’ve been saying “Ardoyno”😂

  • @gbxmusicchannel3836
    @gbxmusicchannel38363 ай бұрын

    They printed $ 2.6B tether this week. If this is a leveraged play it's possibly a trillion dollar problem. It's bad and keeps getting worse..

  • @beerkegaard
    @beerkegaard4 ай бұрын

    Tether makes billions of dollars doing almost zero work. They hold treasuries that earn them yield and simply redeem plain dollars. Probably the most profitable business per capita ever.

  • @thenakedcanadian13
    @thenakedcanadian134 ай бұрын

    is Tether bad then?

  • @Spacewand
    @Spacewand3 ай бұрын

    Sad as fuck that Tether still fucking around and exchanges like Binance keep scamming people

  • @quartertwenty484
    @quartertwenty4844 ай бұрын

    There's a joke that Crypto is speed running the history of banking and Tether is part of that. Everyone knows that Tether is not 100% backed. But people who have enough tether holdings to put its assets under pressure have incentive not to, and people who may have a strategy to make money by putting pressure on it, don't have the capital to do so. It's basically fractional reserve banking during the gold standard.

  • @fakename1656
    @fakename16564 ай бұрын

    I sold my tether to buy cascoin, to the moon 😅

  • @lee0055
    @lee00554 ай бұрын

    crypto bros, only care about number go up.

  • @nateo6806
    @nateo68064 ай бұрын

    TLDW? Tether still sus. Thanks guys!

  • @bobmccall9725
    @bobmccall97254 ай бұрын

    Drk puls

  • @joweb1320
    @joweb13204 ай бұрын

    When will the dominoes start to fall?

  • @scozzisolana
    @scozzisolana4 ай бұрын

    It's been sooooo long

  • @teddyhansen5008
    @teddyhansen50083 ай бұрын

    Promo'SM

  • @artpatron719
    @artpatron7194 ай бұрын

    Capitulation

  • @BlazeStunting
    @BlazeStunting4 ай бұрын

    bennet is so annoying

  • @Elixir9
    @Elixir94 ай бұрын

    its the tether super scam cycle

  • @kek22219
    @kek222192 ай бұрын

    How many times is this going to be repeat in crypto. It's been happening since tethers inception.... no matter how many times they are called out USDT ain't going anywhere. Please stop making videos like this, it's been beaten to death so many times. Yes tether is a scam, yes tether prints endless money, no tether isn't going to fall. If it did then the crypto market would fall with it.

  • @ILLGamingg
    @ILLGamingg3 ай бұрын

    Just ignore it bro