From the look of it when you were starting the walmart trimmer, it seems like it was direct drive whereas the echo has a clutch at the power head. The clutch permits some slippage under load, and the direct drive would have that over powered effect you were mentioning.

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

That makes sense for sure. And I know how a clutch works so I can picture it now . Thank you.

@stephanpatko

4 жыл бұрын

The other year I bought 2 27cc straight shaft Snapper units from Wally World. One is a dedicated for edging with the aftermarket attachment. Paid $45 each upc 084931846937. Just a heads up if anyone has some in their area. They have been good so far running them at 80:1 with Amsoil Saber

@mateo85tx

4 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I was gonna say, I’d imagine having a clutch makes all the difference I’d think.

@kirkthebeerslinger

4 жыл бұрын

@@stephanpatko if the manufacturer recommends 50:1 mix why would you run 80:1? I read lots of posts of ppl who spend more money on expensive oils only to run at 1.5-2x the lean mixture the manufacturer recommends. I find it interesting how many ppl think they know better than the manufacturer of engine products. I run Super Tech Universal 2 cycle oil and ethonal free gasoline mixed at 50:1 and have zero issues day in and day out. I noticed Alan uses premix...fine for the homeowner that doesn't go thru much-but VERY expensive for something you can make easily yourself. Buy a transparent small bottle that mixes w/1 gal of gas and mark the bottle where it is full...simply refill it from a quart bottle 1gal at a time

@teresajohnson849

4 жыл бұрын

@@kirkthebeerslinger you are right i have allways ran 50:1 mix in my weedeaters for years

You're not only my favorite lawn care channel, you're also one of my favorite humor channels. Your dad humor is something that just speaks to me. Lol.

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

ha ha nice thank you!!

@chrisburton3335

4 жыл бұрын

@@Thelawncarenut you are very funny. nothing worse than the how to with steve guy laughing at his not funny commentary.

this was a good one, took me a minute to figure out the “prawn” thing tho.. lmao, your humor and humility make these things great.

@timbohouston

4 жыл бұрын

It's a great topic. I'm weedeating lawns daily. I used to think there wasn't much difference between lines but there is.

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

I had forgotten how much I enjoy reviewing lawn equipment too - so I am def going to do more, thank you for watching!

@nickradeke

4 жыл бұрын

It is spelled pron

@cmusic52

4 жыл бұрын

@@Thelawncarenut well, and I also agree some of the real cheap MTD brands need reviewed for people, I got the craftsmen version of this trimmer, and I swear, I hate the head on it, its really made for precut trimmer line and using it as a bump head doesn't work well, soo now I gotta find a bump head to replace it with, having the line all fly out when I bump it to get another inch or two drives me nuts

@fishhuntadventure

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickradeke either way the music sucked. Sucks.

This video just made me realize that I am a left handed weed wacker. Instant Like!

This was a GREAT video, not because of the trimmer itself, but because it felt like some of your very first videos you ever did on KZread. Took me back to the old days. Anyone who's ever watched some of the first stuff you put out would know what I'm talking about. Great stuff. Look forward to more reviews and videos like this one!

Thank you lawn care nut, master weedwacher, Grass engineer and product reviewer. I thoroughly enjoyed your review, although i also own a Echo weed trimmer which i love using and proudly display it to my neighbors. I hope you continue to do such reviews and am waiting for the next one.

Loved it Allyn!!! I would definitely like to see more review videos. I love the way you broke this down too and compared it to what you know and love. I too have the Echo PAS 225 based on your previous recommendation and absolutely love the thing!!!! Thanks again and keep up the great work!

Iconography part cracked me up!

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

thanks! I like to notice the little things.

Speaking to longevity, I bought one of these in the spring of '18 not really knowing better and not wanting to spend $$ and its still going strong for me. And as someone who's 6'4, having to bend over isn't THAT bad to me (and I have the curved shaft model). Im sure using a straight shaft Echo would change my world but it works for me right now.

Yes definitely more reviews. As a pro / DYI your opinion matters especially on the equipment you use and why. Beginners can obviously use the help getting started on the right foot. Plus guys like me with a little experience can get a lift up as well. Thank you for all you do!

a very useful and thoughtful production yet again. Thanks big Al

Love this review video bro! Really important information for advanced and new lawn owners. I really enjoyed it! Definitely make some more reviews. On another note all this rain has my St.Aug on steroids lol.

Personally I think the lower end trimmers are totally worth the money, I have a cheap one that’s lasted me 10 years of consistent use! Great video and it’s nice to see the comparison. 👌🏼

@4skully

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@stephenparinisi7040

2 жыл бұрын

For residential once a a week use it doesn't matter that much unless you really care about cut quality but if u use one pretty much everyday or for big jobs like a burm or a bank it is quite noticeable

Man this is awesome, I'd love to see lawn maintenance videos with cheap brand/ curb find, or even vintage OPE and see how they fair on a good lawn

I really LOVED this one bro! Great topic.

Love the cross channel love reppin the Cleetus hat.

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

I'm doing it for Dale over here!

LOL.....You're killing me Allyn! Watching you reload the trimmer brings back frustrating memories 4 sure. I enjoyed the video greatly. I would definitely like to see more videos of this nature. Great review!

I used one of those curved shafts and a week ago used a straight shaft; OMG!!! What a huge difference for your back and shoulders!!! Never ever going back to the curved one!!! As you said, save for a week or two if you need to but the difference is huge!!!! No matter the brand, go straight!!! Thanks for your time, the reviews and the family friendly content as I use to watch you with my kids too!!! :)

Yes please do more comparison videos of products.... it's always good to hear unbiased opinions.

I love that you use lofi hip-hop. ChilledCow and The Bootleg Boy are my go-to KZread channels. 👍🏼

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

I listen to Chilled Cow all day here.

Cheap Wally World trimmers need love too! 🔥

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

yes they do!

@nonenone8819

4 жыл бұрын

Hey I've definitely made money with them! Bought alot also lol...now I can afford the good ones lol

Hi Allan....great info....Do more of videos like this...They help all of us decide what equipment to purchase!....Tks for all your videos!....Take Care

i'm 5'6" and use the stihl 91R with no issues. This video was great and informational. Thank you for the reviews, we can only imagine how frustrating some of these trimmers/weedeaters must have been to test the whole day.

Great video, as usual. Please do more product reviews! Also, I love your Cleetus hat!

I love the references to the other channels. I happen to watch all of them!

My main takeaway... Echo doesn't just BBRRRAAAA! MMMRRAAA! Just break through it. I have a battery powered Black and Decker trimmer with a single line and I'm 5'4" so "Hyper Tough" may be an upgrade 🤣🤣

I have the curved version of the hyper tough. Was a gift from my mother in-law when we moved. Everything he said I feel every time I use it. I’m 5’11 and it’s just miserable. Can’t wait to buy a new one. I appreciate the gesture tho but time for a better trimmer

Great video Allen would love to see more videos like these

My garage issues too Allyn. One half clean for the wifes car and my side......well!

I’m enjoying the chill hop when I mow on Sundays 44 on XM plays this in the mornings. It’s very relaxing while enjoying the mow. 👍🏼

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

You should look up Chilled Cow on KZread - they play good stuff too

@lawn2learn

4 жыл бұрын

Will do thank you sir!!!!

enjoyed the review@ Keep 'em coming!

Awesome work! I like the budget/entry-level product review! 👍🏼

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro ! 👊

Great video! Keep it up! I'm learning from them!

Loved the video, perfect time as I am looking at getting a weed eater and just didn’t want to spend a lot. But, ended up buying a shindawia, lol. There goes no spending a bunch, lol. I would love to see you take this to the freedom factory and throw it in the taller stuff and see how it will handle the tougher thicker taller grass. Great video, have a wonderful day!!!

Once you have a good trimmer with a Speed Feed head you will never subject yourself to the shortcomings of budget equipment. I have had the same multi tool trimmer for 18 years. More expensive up front but she has gone the long haul. Great vid Mr. Allyn!

@dr53love

3 жыл бұрын

Which one was it?

@jasonmt6314

3 жыл бұрын

@@dr53love I have a Shindiawa M230. Its a Very reliable unit.

Just picked the straight shaft model at walmart today on clearance for $58. I'll give it a go this weekend and use it until it dies then upgrade at that point. Thank you for this very informative video!

My parents didnt know and bought me a short shaft stihl trimmer 3 years ago for my new house. Just upgraded to a straight shaft husqvarna and my back is thanking me. So much better. Bump feed works great too.

Couldn’t stop laughing with the 12in shaft joke!!

Now that's my kinda trimmer. Haha! Always good stuff man!

Thanks, Allyn, always appreciate your reviews. You point out things most people would not know to consider. I’d like to see some other trimmer reviews and also a review on trimmer line. How well do the higher end lines perform on budget trimmers? In addition, I’m recovering from a back injury, and being one of the 2% (lady LCNs), those trimmers are much to heavy for me to lift. I would re-injure my back in heartbeat! Even though I have the Toro Flex battery mower, I did not get the Toro trimmer because that battery is waaaay too heavy for me to lift. I wound up getting a Worx trimmer as it was the lightest weight I could find, and it has a wheel that you can roll along the walkway as you edge so you don’t have to lift the trimmer for straight up edging. However, their line is absolute crap. It would be great to see what high end lines work on low end trimmers. Also, are there other light weight models on the market for those of us with back issues? One thing many do not realize, men have longer torsos and longer arms than women, so you have more muscle to hold these trimmers with, they aren’t as heavy to men as they are to women. It would be great to see some lighter weight models for women and also guys that may also have some back issues. Thanks for all the great content you share with us 😊

Loved the rotation portion. As a right hand dominant, I have always preferred to walk backwards. It's how I first learned when working for a local landscaping company decades ago.

Gotta do a review on the new Hart line of trimmers from Walmart. They are 40v and awesome! I never thought I'd leave my gas trimmer behind but these hart 40v trimmers sold exclusively from Walmart are amazingly well built and don't break the bank. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on their new 20 volt back pack sprayers as well

Excellent video. I just purchased the Hyper Tough for my son. I have been using the Echo. It is a beautiful machine.

You should do the cheapest lawn mower at Walmart next!

Informative video. Purchased the curved shaft at $70 and works great however my back aches. I will purchase longer trimmer next year.

I have one of those. It’s a curved shaft. I got it a couple years back and it still runs really good.

Please keep this sort of stuff up I love it

That straight shaft Hyper Tough is identical to a Craftsman Trimmer I had back 5 years ago. Must be the same manufacturer.

Thanks for another fine video. Watching this reminds me why I ditched gas and went with battery powered. Ryobi 40v is easy to reload the line and can take care of my 1/3 acre clearing both sides of privacy fence. 😁

The hyper tough was my starter. Had it four years didn’t have many issues. Being 6’0 and actually started learning about lawn equipment and feeling equipment out for comfort anytime I was at a hardware store prompted the upgrade. Was definitely tiered of hunching but just learned to adapt and made it work for a while. Wish this video was out back then. I enjoy the content and the added fluff.

I love it keep them coming!

love your sense of humor!! LOL

I bought a battery powered black and decker for about $90. Now I have to go see which way it spins. LOL. It works fine for me so far. Great review Allyn. Keep 'em coming.

When i started doing lawn care by myself i had Nothing so i picked one up at wally world my back hurt almost everyday qhen i came home but the machine itself worked well for weed whipping and edging that first year

As I made my mind up to mow wet on Saturday because of the forecast and I was overgrown. I wondered if Allyn was mowing wet over by there!!!!! Memorial Day Milo is poppin 😍

I just bought several of these, in the straight shaft version, for family members and myself, brand new on clearance for only $20 each! I’m looking forward firing up mine for this weekend’s yard work.😉

Allyn: "I'm short, I'm 5'8". If you are 5'10" or 6' like most of your are ..." Me: I might as well be considered a kid at 5'6". Time to heat up my Raviolis.

@zioulz3685

4 жыл бұрын

I'm 15 at 5 6 :) I'm tiny

@samanthacastillo2353

3 жыл бұрын

I am 32 and 5`0``

Warm, rainy days are great to enjoy a cigar and some lo-fi

Do lots of reviews my guy. Your words are valuable. They (companies) should pay you for reviews.

This is a good idea! It would be nice to test out some of the cheap mowers as well.

I like the review videos Al, keep'em coming 👍🏾

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

thank you!

Great vid and yes to similar reviews

As always excellent video

My favorite weedeater was $20 from Facebook marketplace and when I put a different head on it (it wasn't for me) the shaft snapped because it didn't have a clutch. Took a shaft from a clutched one and cut it so the shaft would fit into the motor, now it works! Also it's mine now

Allen, I downloaded the Yard Mastery app and it is awesome!! I am following the recommendations and just put down the Bio Stimulant pack over the last 3 weeks. Hope this is a good way for me to support your channel. I feel like it was the least I could do for all of your great content. Hotty Toddy!

@trentburns1753

4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah, another rebel 👍 Hotty Toddy!

All hi end trimmers spin counter clockwise is what I have found in 38 years of lawn service work

I like the videos. Would like to see a review of different trimmer lines and some of the other styles

AvE would be proud. Little HDPE glass fibre reinforced plastic. Perfect trimmer for old dewclaw

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe I should buy a CNC and make my own trimmer head 😂

@sethcornish8568

4 жыл бұрын

Send one of the trimmers to the empire of dirt and let Uncle bumble-f tear it down on the healing bench.

@andrewkennedy9704

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to see some AVE fans here.

@justinharrison680

4 жыл бұрын

Wooooo Ave

@codetech5598

4 жыл бұрын

Does it chooch?

See that Cleetus hat. Love it! Just waiting for Allyn to review some piece of yard equipment and say "Yep, she's a certified ripper!"

The label break down was worth the watch. Hahahaha. Well done as always.

I hate dealing with engines and the dual lines... Got me a battery powered 3 years ago and love it!

Great video for a sunday evening.

You looked like Silverback there for a second at 10:21 getting that trimmer started. 😂

I use 2.4 mm string that I seem to go through very quickly in my Stihl trimmer. What size is the string you were using? Looks like rope compared to mine.

I searched cheapest trimmer because I want to buy a cheap one. We got a homelite and it got stuck on cord, sent in for repair/ got $ back, still under 1 yr warranty. Trying to see what other cheap trimmer will be better than that homelite. Don’t really want to buy a homelite again. Thanks very much for this video. Funny, entertaining and informative.

Looking forward to this one 😬😎💪

2-cycle Echo or Stihl straight-shaft with Speed-Feed head and Black Diamond line with EDGIT PRO upgrade. Only way to go. Good points and tips in your vids.

Thoughts on wheeled line trimmers? We use them since they are more durable, using normal lawn mower engines, thicker line that's easier t to change. Currently looking again as our last one was stolen.

Allyn, what’s the best electric string trimmer that one could buy in 2020?

love the cleetus merch appearance! great work on the raceway

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

Hoorah! Thank you.

I probably went through 3 different MTD trimmers before I got my Echo PAS. The MTD ones maybe lasted 2 years, then crapped out. The Echo, though more expensive, lasts much longer. Pay more upfront, save more in the end.

@danieltillman3858

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I've always said I'm too poor to buy cheap.

@Iexpedite1

4 жыл бұрын

Buy once, cry once.

@theoutsider1970

4 жыл бұрын

I love my stihl straight shaft trimmer . Don’t remember what model . Paid about $320 for it but I’ve had it 4 years and it runs like an absolute monster still . Never seen such a powerful trimmer

@kobelcofan

4 жыл бұрын

I bought a cheap bolens trimmer for a one time ditch trimming job to maximize my profit and still walked away making money. However long it lasts is just a bonus for me now.

@allgaming4045

3 жыл бұрын

Got 2 Stihls and 1 echo I agree with you

the icons part made me subscribe 😂

Love the dramatic slow motion lol

LMAO @ your breakdown of the iconography!!! 😭😂😭😭😂

The part where you are installing the new line should be in black and white with Billy Mays narrating how awful it is to not have his products. Lol!

Great information

This thing looks like my Craftsman, though I have the straight shaft...has the same startup instructions and everything...do we have another product by our bro Skip? 🧐

I replaced my self feeding head on my trimmer because I hated winding the string on the spool. Got a replacement head at HD that allows me to insert a single piece into head, two tales coming out. Quick to install and fast to replace.

beautiful grass. WOW

The unboxing part was funny 🤣

This was the best trimmer prawn I have watched. The prawn music set the pace.

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂👊

I am looking to buy/ upgrade my lawn equipment and would love comparison videos. I think you did some on mowers but if you haven't trimmers and blowers would be great too. Or maybe a video talking about a budget, mid-range and top of the line suggestion for each category.

You are very welcome for the rain 🌧

I loved this. I have a garden with lots of curves. I own a rechargable Ryobi and its ok but I'm not sure how to hold it and it is too short for me. It kicks stuff against my legs some times too. Im 5'8 woman, so I definitely understand stuff made for short people. Id appreciate a video on blowers. I have been using the same blower for about 10 yrs and I'm hating on the cord. You are right aboiut people hating to use their equiptment because of difficulties such as threading the weed wacker. I liked this so much I will watch it again.

Was you holding the trigger in while pulling the string or did you just squeeze and relief during the starting process in other words do i have to squeeze the trigger in while pulling the string

3yrs. later.... They are now 98 & 115 $$. They also have a twist line feed( feed the line & twist. ). I prefer the curved shaft & 0.65 string. Most of my wacking is done around a picket fence. Bigger line will eat my fence. Also I'm 5'2" & 71 yrs. Curve for me! Great video. Sorry took me so long to find you😉

The iconography and AvE reference made me LOL

This is an all time greats video, love it. Straight and curved shafts with a bit about watching “Prawn” & “Prawn” music. I wonder how many you lost there?

@Thelawncarenut

4 жыл бұрын

ha ha the world may never know 😂

NO FLUFF. Just good stuff!!! Keep up the great videos!!

Al, do you use an actual lawn edger or do you use an attachment (edger) for your trimmer? If you do use an actual edger what brand is it bud? Thanks!