TESTING Recovery Rope vs Strap - Matt's Off Road Recovery and MadMatt 4WD do a COMPARISON TEST
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Recovery Rope vs Snatch Strap TEST COMPARISON. Matt from @MattsOffRoadRecovery and myself do a comparison test. We each do a recovery with BOTH the recovery rope and the snatch strap and share our experiences and thoughts. For Matt (Matt's Off Road Recovery) the Recovery Rope is his must have piece off road recovery gear. For MadMatt he's done numerous Snatch recoveries and considered them the most dangerous recovery method available.
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My takeaway lesson from this video is that I should have bought $6000 used Cherokee instead of a $50,000 Wrangler.
@saginawdan
3 жыл бұрын
You could start with a well used 6k Cherokee...then dump a few thousand into it.😎
@briandonovan5434
3 жыл бұрын
You should watch Matt’s channel. He rescues wranglers all the time.
@daftnord4957
3 жыл бұрын
@@briandonovan5434 even older wranglers too. But the yellow xj doesn't have a simple suspension lift and big tires, a lot more to his set up. Also off road knowledge, sometimes he gets people unstuck without even pulling them out
@jeeper390
3 жыл бұрын
I literally did that. My brand new 2015 JK was a POS and I needed something reliable to drive as the JK was in the shop more often than not. Sold off the JK a few years ago and still love XJ. I'd drive it anywhere without hesitation.
@MarkPdot
3 жыл бұрын
I don't own a Cherokee, sadly I traded it off and kick myself often. However, my Silverado has done well for virtually anything that a truck can be used for...437+k miles. No serious off road but more than a few recoveries, dump runs, cross country, winter driving, grocery getting experiences. The truck is old but well worth my investment so far of almost 6 years, 74k miles driven by me.
That second pull off the rope was faster. That's why it was harsher. Matt was more consistent, because it is his jeep.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Fair call
Great vid!!! The bogged vehicle driver needed to turn the wheels the wrong way, apply the brakes at the wrong time and be buried to the frame to be a true Winder recovery.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@chuckmiller5763
4 жыл бұрын
And be facing the wrong direction!
@chuckmiller5763
4 жыл бұрын
@@paulcattapan2481 And a 2 wheel drive with a single tire misfire.
@NodnarbRS
4 жыл бұрын
Made me chuckle. So right 😂
@T25de
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I know you all 😅😅
So in conclusion, the Yellow Banana is awesome.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@chanceapants9595
2 жыл бұрын
I subscribed to madman too
Interesting video. The wife walked in and heard you talking about snatch straps. She said she used to have a bathing suit of that brand. Married 15 years and still learning new things about this gal! 🤣
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
😂
@b17cinema
3 жыл бұрын
haha best comment
@dom0
2 жыл бұрын
That is a gold comment hahaha
I came here from Mtts off road recovery videos and i really like what you two did.It was nice seeing two guys work with different tools to achieve the same results with no bullshit. Now i have two guys doing the same thing from two different continents.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
Definitely like the kinetic energy rope better. And the ones that Matt at Winder uses. Are made right here in Idaho where I live.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
:)
@BikingVikingHH
4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know they were local, thank you!
Matt: "Thats why they call him Mad Matt!" LMAO!
@seaneastman6323
4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha good one.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Matts got a dry sense of humour :)
@ericsvalland4417
4 жыл бұрын
Drove it up that hill like he stole it! ;)
@shanevonharten3100
4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMatt4WD. Both Matts
Ropes win. End of story. Epilogue: Great video, Mad Matt. Thoroughly enjoyed all of your videos with Matt and his gang!
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps
@officialWWM
2 жыл бұрын
Why did the rope win? They both got the vehicle out! In my opinion, the flat profile of a snatch strap is much easier to store!
@asharak84
2 жыл бұрын
For me the takeaway is rope if I start a recovery business, strap if I'm storing it for emergency use when wheeling. If I'm expecting to get stuck with the kind of wheeling I choose to do then rope probably.
@mareli82
2 жыл бұрын
@@asharak84 yea , for backup in you personal car, the strap is what to get, it stores easy and will get you out if somebody can pull you, for a job get a rope or if you go offroading a lot and get stuck or need to get mates out get a rope .
He's snatched out big vehicles three four times his size with connect energy it's amazing to watch! Wow
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
It's a very powerful recovery method.
@kelkev85
4 жыл бұрын
I dont understand what took so long for these straps to catch on in the US. I have had a snatch strap for about 8 years but only becuase I educated myself on the value of having one. When I explain to someone how they are used I always get a strange look like I must be mistaken, maybe that will change now. Thanks for the test.
@thalesletus1
4 жыл бұрын
@@kelkev85 been using ropes for over 10 years on the farm to pull tractors out.
@whatsup1407
4 жыл бұрын
I've had a Bubba Rope since 2012 ish They've been around for a while, the reason more people wouldn't use them is because of cost. $30 for a strap vs $200 plus for a rope.
@maleficentcop2752
4 жыл бұрын
@@kelkev85 I've been pulling or getting pulled out of bad places sense the 70's.....1st it chains or what ever rope was available, then wire ropes, & straps...now kinetic ropes.... All of of which have been around a long time. People are just finding different uses for them...👍
Matt & Matt y'all make a great team, and the discussion on sizing recovery equipment to the vehicles is on point as always. Right on with your speed up that hill! 😁 Makes me want to run in autocross again
I’m excited for the next ones you’ve got planned, then we will get to see the true difference between the two, great job
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
:)
When traction is limited momentum is King
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
within reason
@davesstillhere
3 жыл бұрын
My universal off road driving theory- What most people call "traction" is often termed "mentum." And if you dont have enough mentum, you need mo mentum.
Glad Matt is open to being dissected like this. Especially the tow ball vid. Great sport, both channels are great.
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Matt’s a great guy
Glad you did these ive been watching winder towing for a while now and its awesome to find a aussie channel i can watch as well that seems straight down the line. Obviously there are the branded vids but they seem les authentic biased if you will love your no bs attitude
Great video Mad Matt! You are a great interviewer and 'easy to listen to'. A true OFF-Road Warrior! Lol
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
AUSTRALIA is our favorite place to visit in the N. American winters. Going down to AU during your summer is wonderful! Love the Matt squared vlogging channels. Can't wait for the test results to be in.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
So cool!
Should have brought Winder Matt's F350 and gotten it stuck! :)
@wb5mgr
4 жыл бұрын
The only issue would it have ever gotten out of the valley 😂
Good stuff. I really liked the hill climb at the end, you made it like a champ.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
You and me both!
Been looking forward to this one, you definitely snatched harder with rope. The rope is way better, he also said 250 recoverys which is probably more like 1000 pulls.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning toward rope for a kinetic recovery
@mikekuczynski1552
3 жыл бұрын
The key here is the strap is rated closer for the two vehicles weight the ropes is rated higher so with it you could poll a Land Cruiser or an F-250 out no problem with the rope . With the strap it would be sketchy it does not have the same weight rating , could it do it ? Probably . Would it be safe ? Probably not .
That’s why they call him mad Matt. 😂 Awesome video. Can’t wait for the next episode. Keep up the good work Matt.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
That was interesting. In my line of work we use a rope for heavy recoveries. Our ropes are custom made for us by a guy in our area, so I don't know the ratings on them, but ours are a twisted strand rope instead of being braided and I think they are at least double the thickness of the rope in your video. Interesting comparison. Thank you
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Glad I can help
I watched the previous video and this one. Am shopping for a recovery rope/strap of some kind for my 4,600lb vehicle. Unlikely to ever be used as we aren't doing any heavy offroading. I was set on a recovery rope until I learned from the snatch strap...now just for space availability I'm leaning towards the snatch strap. Great video, thanks for doing this!
Quite nice to see each of you having a nice meet up, even if airline trip was exhausting and then some.
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
The fights not too bad.
Need to bury a motor home towing a ski boat.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@bobcriss600
4 жыл бұрын
Matt has Yakum roped out a couple different motorhomes before! Stuck to the axels in sand and mud!
@michaelvanos1423
3 жыл бұрын
Matt has yanked out 1 ton diesel trucks with their travel trailers hooked up out of the sand. Buses, motorhomes, you name it he has probably yanked it out
You guys summed up my thoughts perfectly. The tug boat rope Matt uses is heavier than needed for most passenger vehicle use. Matt needs it for what he does, but the average user would better off with the smaller rope to take advantage of the kinetic energy.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
:)
i look forward to more comparison videos. i like the rope my self. all i have is clay mud around me
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Will do!
The next morning we pulled out my car and went with Shawn to recover his Vanagon that was buried up to the roof in a snow bank. A full size plow truck was needed to pull it out. I remember using our climbing rope to attach to the truck. The truck drove forward with momentum, but was pulled back by the elastic rope and embedded van. On the second attempt it pulled the van free. Today extreme off-road recoveries utilize a similar dynamic rope to retrieve stuck vehicles. We were on to something back then more than 30 +years ago.
On the second pulls where Matt noticed a slight difference, I also noticed there was a bit more engine rev as well which might account for the little stronger feel Matt noticed.
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
It certainly wasn't as precise a test as we wanted.
It took me a while to notice that this is mad matts channel and not yellow banana's. Because I watch both 😊
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Luv ya work. :)
Fantastic collaboration! Cheers from Texas!
Thats my party spot!!! Stay out of my backyard!!! Lol good video!!! That hill has dissapointed many folk that thought they had a good offroad rig! But with the right launch in the stock XJ you can get er done! Its the spot after the sharp left turn that can get ya
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
LOL. I'll be back :)
Really interesting & surprising findings. Looking forward to the next video. A quick question though, why does Matt use a chain bridle? Take care Matt, regards Non Stick Nick
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
In his opinion it's faster and allows him to hook to chassis of cars. Personally I would do it differently.
Keep the Yakum,, The pulls looked a lot smoother,,,
I love seeing Matt in the beginning of his internet fame. He was so awkward in comparison to the 2024 Matt. It’s just cool to see the growth
In a way, Matt (from Matts Offroad Recovery) is representing America here. I am proud to have him as my representative on this.
Recovery rope by nature of its braiding, material use and core design have a higher coefficient of expansion, hence the term kinetic energy rope. These types of ropes are better suited for sudden type of force applications. Their elastic expansion acts as a buffer to the sudden force applied, thus "storing" this energy in the cord's elongation instead of the sudden force being applied to the load, which can "rip/tear" things apart. The stored energy in the rope is then transfered to load as an additional pulling force as the rope contracts and the kinetic energy is released. This "additional" force helps pull the load as if you had applied a greater force than you did; but this is only an "instantaneous" force. It might however be enough to get the stuck vehicle free and then apply normal towing forces. Soft slings have lower coefficent of expansions and are thus better suited for gradual force application and precise movement, such as a crane lifting an object. In conclusion, recovery ropes are better for "Recovery" and sligs are better for lifting.
Idea for a repeatable test: If you took both vehicles to a gently sloping Dirt road. Have the rear vehicle lock up its brakes and the front vehicle roll forward a set distance On gravity alone. You would get a real feel for the jerk force to each vehicle plus you could measure the skid mark from the rear vehicle to see how much kinetic energy was transferred.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting idea
Great video and lots of knowledge. Hopefully this will help educate people, keep em safe and we all get to go home at night.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
I hope so too
@badgerpa9
4 жыл бұрын
Need to have the Recovery jeep hold the brake with the strap on and really bury your white jeep down, I volunteer to do the bury job. I hope you and your family are staying safe Casey.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
the white jeep was as bogged as possible for this location
I'm a Matt's Towing FAN.....and new subscriber here✌🏼️....
Nice test!! May be the angle of the recovery helped absorbing energy (you can see the stress on white jeep´s suspension), thats why you can´t feel a difference.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this didn't really work out how we had hoped.
@wirebrush
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well. With the Jeep at such an angle the front suspension is compressing and soaking up a lot of the hit.
Ive has the ARB for years. Easily over 25 "hits" on it. Obviously not all as hard as what Matt is doing with the Yellow Banana. But, it still functions just fine and basically looks brand new. You just need to take care of your recovery gear. Plain and simple.
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
Good comment
The kenetic energy snatch strap is my preference due to the space it takes up and the cost. Plus I haven't heard of them needing to be scaped after 10 pulls, rested I have heard.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for some of the videos I have coming
Good stuff guys. Thanks!
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
Pleasure
I have the ultimate recovery tool sitting down beside the shed, it's called a D6 :)
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
A snatch strap for your weekend warrior, a kinetic rope for a hard-core enthusiast. That way you have a strap when you need it in case a problem ever comes up, it’s cheap enough and small enough you can put it in your rig and forget about it/always have it, but in the situation where you are using it all the time, the kinetic rope will pay for it self in no time And be more useful.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting thoughts
@DriveCarToBar
4 жыл бұрын
It also seems that Matt from Winder uses those ropes as tow ropes after he's recovered the vehicle. I wouldn't do that with a snatch strap.
@stevenelson8560
3 жыл бұрын
I think you have a good point there, and if you find yourself needing it more you can always upgrade to the rope.
@BikingVikingHH
3 жыл бұрын
Mike McKeen Well realistically speaking they are kinetic tow ropes, in some other video I heard that they aren’t manufactured specifically for off-road use, but actually re-purposed tugboat ropes, so they are made to toe heavy weights with constant tugging motions like waves etc.
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
@@BikingVikingHH Correct they are from the marine game as mooring and tow lines.
Great video thank you!
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
glad to see yall got some radios
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@machine7767
4 жыл бұрын
What brand of radios are they
When I bought my rope I wanted to see what it was like so I hooked it to my 99 f350 “immovable object” and to my 95 xj. I gave it heck and jerked on the truck knowing it wasn’t going to move. There wasn’t any hard jerking stops. That would be a good test
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
interesting
This was super useful! I've broken many recovery straps over the years. And I've always wondered what niche those big ol ropes fit in. I'll still stick with the straps for the space constraints but, I envy those ropes now.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@nunyabidniss
2 жыл бұрын
Yes SUPER useful
Rope looks to pull better and smoother great vid guys as looking to do offroad recovery soon in the uk just as a hobby
Good to see the collaboration.
@MadMatt4WD
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
What I take from this is, if you're a serious off reader and need a long term recovery system, spend the money and buy the tug em rope. If you need something for an emergency, and easy to store, get a cheaper snatch strap. Both are good systems, just one is more disposable.
@cody_janssen831
4 жыл бұрын
KJ I really want a Yankum Rope but I can’t really justify it all I got is I’ll take better care of it if it cost more
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
KJ I think that's a reasonable summery
Would be good to see American Matt in Australia.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
he has the invite
@michaelharris1455
4 жыл бұрын
only if he can take the banana with him!😉
The big advantage of the rope is its additional length as well. Most straps I run across are only 20’ whereas the ropes come in longer versions and can be joined together to create a very long rope if you can’t get close to the bogged vehicle.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
They're both the same length and straps can be joined.
Great recovery rope testing
Challenge accepted! You went up that hill like I would have. "Drive it like you stole it!"
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
LOL I more or less did steal it. I wasn't going to leave anything on the table.
Hey to Ed!
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Ed's cool
@jameslidgey3161
4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMatt4WD Yes Ed is cool! We want him to know folks care about him and to Stay Safe.
Hi Matt Thanks for the videos learned a lot
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
Good info. I have been considering a kinetic rope like Matt uses but for my four wheeling needs the cheaper strap might be better. I avoid getting stuck. I do not go looking for difficulty. It is just for insurance if I encounter unavoidable terrain or weather.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
That's fair
Subscribing to your channel now (credit Matt’s Off Road Recovery for bumping into your channel 😝)
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
😂. Thanks.
@haroldphipps3457
4 жыл бұрын
Same here!
I don't like the chain involved in the recovery.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I would prefer a bridle
This is one of the best you tube video ever I used a Mazda3 and pulled out a monta Carlo, my car is half the weight lol
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
glad you liked it
@mattruston2685
4 жыл бұрын
MadMatt 4WD was outta snow but I pretty steep ditch lol
@mattruston2685
4 жыл бұрын
And it’s a Mazda 3 Gt
Glad to see you got past some of that concern you had with Kinetic ropes. You are still missing some of the benefits though for low traction settings. Nice video.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Great point!
What’s with the chains. Dangerous situation. The spreader chain is dangerous.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer a bridal but this how Matt roles for his work.
@clivehorridge
4 жыл бұрын
Dan Trucker When I posted this, there were five comments criticizing the use of a chain bridle, but not one of them explains why. “It’s dangerous” isn’t quite enough without more explanation. I don’t mean chains for pulling, I mean the use of chain between the strap/rope and the vehicle. I think a more detailed explanation would be more beneficial to viewers. Thanks. 👍🏻🇷🇴🇬🇧
@northernfarmer3689
4 жыл бұрын
Matt always connects 2 ropes with a D ring shackle and used a tow ball as a recovery point. Both are a bad idea.
@dantrucker7623
4 жыл бұрын
Northern farmer I have watched his videos and what looks like a tow ball is actually a pintle hitch. It’s stronger than a tow ball, stronger than the hitch receiver that we use here in Australia meaning the hitch receiver with the d shackle. A pintle hook has a shock load of 42 tonne and a towing load of over 150tonne. The way he does the recovery with the pintle hook I think is by far safer than any other recovery hitch on the market today. However the chain he uses is not shock rated and is the most dangerous way of recovery. We use chains to secure 200tonne machines on semi and over size trailers here in Australia and as a truckie I’ve snapped chains on loads. We need an explanation on his chain use and mad Matt has the right ideas for recovery situations. You have the right idea northern and please don’t take my comment wrong but the hitch he uses is by far the heaviest shock load hitch on the world market today. Having used a hitch like that to tow a truck behind my old work truck I know the shock and load rating of that hitch. It’s massively strong and capable of way more than the videos here show.
@northernfarmer3689
4 жыл бұрын
@@dantrucker7623 He uses a pintle hitch correct but only on his jeep, he uses a 3 ball tow hitch on the customers vehicles.
This guy sound just like Matt. Only Australian
@Seune205
4 жыл бұрын
Akhil Ghosh its his brother.. from another mother 😂
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
😆
BTW glad you meet you with Matt... I'm now a subscriber..,.like Matt's comment: I film with an I phone you real camera's... From Matt's video...LoL 🤣😂😜👍...
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that cracked me up
@marvindebot3264
3 жыл бұрын
@@MadMatt4WD LOL, Even Ado/Blokesworld have an Osmo and a DSLR for filming, Matt does it the hard way but it works, somehow.
You were also pulling down into the front springs from that angle the white jeep was on, that did more cushioning instead of pulling in line with the frame. Good video, hope you come back.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Good point!
Hi Matt couple of concerns 1 are you guys using chain to attach to the vehicle and 2 no dampener on either rope is used .
@HKG36Kc
4 жыл бұрын
Matt addresses the use of chain in one of his videos.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Matt uses Chain I personally would not but we had his gear. Matt has no dampers either.
You only have 2 more hits on that snatch strap. You have hundreds of hits on the Yankem.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Starts making the rope look cheaper ay
Awesome footage and Review thank you Both 👍 🇺🇲 Happy wheeling too all 😎 The Vermonter
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
Pleasure and thanks
I will have one of these ropes one day. Using a strap now and it works. Both are a lot better than using a chain for recovery.
@MadMatt4WD
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
No filling like coming to the end of a 30 foot chain
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
No way
@richarda996
4 жыл бұрын
Chains will break, either themselves or vehicle bumpers bolts . Plus snap your neck and possibly a window
This test was pretty weak. Without pulling like y'all did could have been a tension pull no hits.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah as we said we weren't that happy with the result. I have some more stuff coming.
I have used both straps and ropes since the mid 80's, never a Yankem. The differences I have found have come down to the weave and the amount of nylon in the cross section. More nylon is stiffer, straight it stiffer, woven is softer.
30 years ago I used to use a chain but with a bicycle tire tube tired to it so its still got the elastic pull with no jerking
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
No dampening blanket? @Madmatt with chains too?! Yikes no thanks.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would prefer a bridal
Great comparison video. I have to admit I am a big fan of Matts Off Road Recovery. I don't know much of you Mad Matt as I found this video linked with Matts Off Road Recovery videos. My experience helping people I came across back in the day involved using a 3/8 log chain to pull vehicles out, you want to talk about violent shock when you reach the end of the chain, things evolve, then along came recovery straps and further evolution has brought us to the Yankum Rope that Matt uses. No question In my opinion I think the recovery rope is the way to go.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Chain is horrendous ay. I hope you enjoy your time on my channel.
In my experience the recovery rope / kinetic yanker really shines in deep mud and soft sand when the vehicle doing the recovery does not have the best traction, because in that case the recovery is all about kinetic energy. A faster running start combined with the additional stretch that enables the recovery vehicle to keep moving forward on the initial pull until it suddenly gets yanked backwards (from the rubber band effect) all create an environment that helps prevent the recovery vehicle from getting bogged down itself and allows for multiple tries until success. My thought on why the recovery rope pull seemed more harsh is primarily because of the chains, and the slack that was in them, combined with the faster running start... if you're going to try it again and require a chain-like device to connect to the stuck vehicle I would recommend a tree saver strap or similar. I would assume most people watching this have recovery points so the chain and its hooks shouldn't be necessary. Great channel - new subscriber here!
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
12:42 that's how it's done. some great driving there.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
LOL Up it son
Enjoyed the series. Never been off-roading. Yet
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and it's probably time :)
I noticed a difference in the slack of the chain to the stuck vehicle for the last two pull-outs. In the next to last one, the rope and chain were pulled a little further out, suspending the chain a little more from white vehicle. This resulted in less chain whip before the strap started to stretch. For the last pull, the rope and chain was more slack to the white vehicle, which resulted in MORE chain whip, contributing to more "jolt" before the rope started to stretch. Certainly not a controlled test, but these little variances (other than the rope/strap) can sure make a difference in the "feel."
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah we weren't really happy with the results.
On Mad Matts second test with the recovery Rope he definitely had more throttle causing a harsher jerk or pull sensation than he did with the strap. A lot harsher stuck condition would be a better test as Matt mentions. All in all good info, like anything else it can come down to personal preference.
@MadMatt4WD
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this didn’t go to plan.
I have both in my ute , the rope for heavy car's and the strap for the little car's. However I like the rope best of the two . Great stuff guys , since this comment I now have a 10T winch extension rope and a 8T kinetic rope . They take up less room and are lightweight
I've used straps for years but I believe I've been converted to the rope now. I can see the difference for sure.nThanks fellow's.
@MadMatt4WD
Жыл бұрын
Cheers. Rope is much better in my opinion.
Liking the content and after seeing you one of matts videos last week I have watched a few of your videos and like the channel 👍🏻. But i do think that this wasn't a fair comparison. Hands down the tug rope is a better option and should be a smoother jolt
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah we weren't overly excited by the results.
Good video mate!!
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
Subscribed immediately after seeing you give that hill hell👍
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
LOL He said I had one go
Yea a little dry,but calm and rough at the same time,love it.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
:)
As soon as I saw Casey's Jeep backed into the river I recognized the location, and thought you might have problems getting out up the long and steep sandy access road. American Matt has done several recoveries from that location, and a couple have been touch and go as to whether even Matt was getting back up the hill, yet alone pulling up the client's vehicle. Well, I should never have doubted you. I don't think I have seen anyone climb that hill that quickly before.
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
LOL, Matt put the wind up me about how tough it can be so I thought I'll pull all stops out for the first go. But it had rained the day before so the sand was firm. I've watched some of his other videos and it's one nasty hill when it's dry.
AWESOME video Subscribed
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
Great videos!👍
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
The main advantage to the strap is that it's easy to store in a small space. But they both work well in my experience.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
good point
Cheers Matt !
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
pleasure
I been using Yankum And Rhino Ropes for years Never used a Arb Snatch Strap but they Seem similar might have to grab a few Snatch straps from arb to give them a try thanks for the video and testing Guys 6:30
Watching this vid when I received your reply to my last comment LoL. BTW, I just prefer a winch but I keep a Bubba rope with me always for the simple pulls.
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the winch. So much more controlled.
I’ve never used a recovery rope, and I have only a little experience with a recovery strap. That limited experience didn’t require it to be used as a snatch strap, just as a tow strap. I carry a 25’ 20,000# recovery strap in my Class B motorhome (weighs about 8500 lbs), which I’ve never used. My reasoning for the size recovery strap I have is that if I were to ever stick the camper, I wanted to have something that wouldn’t break, no matter what recovery vehicle was used. My reasoning for a strap rather than a rope was two-fold-initial price and compact storage definitely favor the strap.
@MadMatt4WD
2 жыл бұрын
That’s sound reasoning also in your situation it’s unlikely you would perform a kinetic recovery as the load involved can be too high so a tow recovery would be the go.
Haven’t used recovery rope yet. Have broke a few straps though.
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the strap has a fuse and once they become a bit less stretchy they will blow.
Awesome video! Lots of information! What length or kinetic rope would you recommend a 20ft or the 30ft?
@MadMatt4WD
3 жыл бұрын
20 would be fine
Looks to me like the retrieve was smoother in action with rope than the strap. I own the strap but am impressed with the rope hands down
@MadMatt4WD
4 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning towards the rope for sure.