The giveaway is over. I've randomly picked three winners. The winners are: Fran Maric, Michael Benthack and Lap Joint. I've replied to your comments.

@Zaptastic

3 жыл бұрын

#Fraiser Great video, these bits would work great in my router table for box joints, thanks for the spreadsheet. That looks like a lot of work, very much appreciated.

@tommysts1920

3 жыл бұрын

Fraiser bits, nice German name, like mine last 2 letters ending in "er" If I had a CNC machine I would use them to duplicate small projects to give away to friends and family :-) But, they would work great with my router table too! Love all your videos, and your English is wonderful! I wish my German was as good as your English!

Not commenting for the give away, just because your content deserves to be bumped up by the YT algorithm. Thanks!

This was a ton of work and I thank you so much, that you did this and provide the data for us!!! I think I will try the router bits for one of the next projects.

Does anyone else wish they were as focused as Marius? Every video I see of him gives me a little personality crisis...

very good comparative analysis on speed and material consumption. thank you. these are really cool bits. and the cuts looked great.

Ich wünschte ich hätte Platz für eine CNC Maschine. So bleibt mir nur danke zu sagen für deine unglaublich ausführlichen Videos und dir ein gutes und gesundes Jahr 2021 zu wünschen.

Thank you Marius for a very interesting and comprehensive video! Your time is precious, but oh boy do we appreciate it!

Good to have you back. You've been sorely missed . ! We need your ideas and humour. Thks

I do not have a CNC machine but I would never skip through one of your videos. They are full of information for future use and entertainment.. keep it up please.

Thanks for great videos! I have the fraiser flattening bit, and really likes it. Now I can use your cutting data to improve the speed of my cutting I would have use for the spiral bits for my bass guitar builds.

Great video! Enjoyed all of the data review as well. I always look forward to your videos as they have lots of amazing information. Best of luck on the give-a-way!

Thanks so much for the data, Marius, I really appreciate the effort.

Very comprehensive video I have my first CNC on order an axiom AR8 gunner need bits cheers thanks for your efforts.

Amazing video Marius! I can't imagine how much time and effort you put into collecting all that data. I have an MPCNC that I'm still struggling with determining speeds and feeds. My 500W spindle definitely has less power than your machine and the stiffness is orders of magnitude less so I am really limited. I'd love to have a small diameter #Frasier bit for continuing on my journey but I don't know what I could make with it. Thank you for all your hard work and this give away. I like all your videos and really enjoy the ones that include your CNC router.

Frasier could not ask for a better tester. Thumbs up, quality content as always.

Merry Christmas! Thanks for all the videos in 2020! ⭐️😊👍

Thanks for all this very good data. I can definitely use these in my cnc.

Thanks for the video and chart this will get me started on my CNC, just finished building it, and help me adjust where needed. Currently improving a Gerbil wheel for my daughter her Gerbils as they demolished the original one :-)

Wow.. that's a lot of work you put into this video.. I have been looking for a surfacing cutting bit for a long time, and now it seems I have found one :D

Besides the random blue screen, i think that amazon boxes and "Pril" flowers together join different time periods and therefore are the foundation of a new style of art ;-) Thanks for sharing your work :-) Cheers from BG

Wow, talk about money well spent for the bit manufacturer to give you bits and get such great data! I'm definitely going to get some when my stock of bits is depleted... but my CNC spindle only has a ER11 collet so only up to a 6mm shaft diameter bit. Thanks again for the info and inspiration!

As always you have come through with GREAT content that is useful and entertaining. I want to thank you for the speeds and feed spreadsheet. This will be used a lot. I do not have a need to purchase bits at the moment but I am sure it won't be long. I particularly will be looking at the planer or flattening bit. I like this one a lot. Currently I have a Genmitsu 3018 CNC and use it for wooden artwork. I hope to be getting a larger CNC next year some time for creating larger work as well as a set of hold downs, cam clamps, Spoil boards with dog holes and such. I am sure I'll come up with more projects as well. I hope to start a KZread channel as well. You are inspiring with what you do. Keep up the great work. I'd love to try one of those bits out if possible. Thank you very much.

Marius, you certainly have a lot of time on your hands to to do a great test report

Awesome data pack. Awesome bits.

You convinced me, I'll seriously consider to get a few of them :-)

Excellent video. Looking at the scroll bar of the unfiltered spreadsheet that was probably way more work than what you give yourself credit for haha! I'm sure alot of people will appreciate the cutting data, making their lifes a little bit easier, thanks to you!

Thank you so much. I recently bought a cnc router and similar coated Amana bit. I wonder how they compare. Plus, I just got one. A variety would be fantastic. One of the markets I want to enter is accessibility, making things easier for folks that have disabilities. I'll start with things to assist both student and therapists in schools and homes. Then I'm also looking at the bike market. They are so very popular at the moment. I can several things to make. If successful, then i could upgrade to a beefier cnc router, lol. Thanks for the great info - cheers

The 8mm roughing bit is fantastic, I don't have any bits that don't chatter. I did add two liner rails to my CNC Shark, which uses two polished steel rods, I couldn't believe how much flex they had in just a 900mm length rod. It had roughly 5mm of up and down play at the bit and could not be used for anything requiring detail, but not anymore, virtually no play at the bit now.

Merry Christmas to you and your family Marius!

You made something really useful for many people, kudos to you As for 6mm vs 8mm I found the same thing when milling metal on my small-ish mill. For deep cuts, you should use the smallest endmill you can get away with in regard to deflection. My mill will do steel with 4mm and 6mm, 8mm is seriously pushing it and 10mm is completely unusable. I optimistically bought 50mm facemill hoping to use it on aluminum but no joy... it chatters like crazy even in plastic.

Great work on the excel sheet, as for the Bluescreen, "windebug preview" will tell you why, down load it from microsoft store, and load the minidump/debug file, and it should give you a good clue as to what caused the BSOD

Good, now I have a chart for when I come sneak in to use your CNC while you're not home.

Why do I feel unworthy of the tools you demonstrate? Great job, thank you. Merry Christmas,

Very interesting video. Do you happen to know the acceleration rate of your machine? That can effect the cutting speed if the distance being cut is short and you can't get to cutting speed.

Mahalo Marius for your hard work.. I used diamond coated cutters at Boeing but am excited to see them available for home use. Though now I consider 3mm a big cutter. I will see if Fraiser offers them here in the US.

Very new to the CNC game ,very expensive ,don't have very many bits. Would come in very useful. Thanks great demonstration.

I wish you could do a test on coated and non coated bits, to see if they really last 3 times longer? Maybe take some macro shots of the bits before and after. Anyway thank you again for another great video. Really enjoyed that. Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year.

I don't have a CNC so I am not entering for the giveaway but I am thoroughly impressed by all the work that went into this video and I also appreciate all your other videos, Marius! So I am leaving a comment because I feel a thumbs up is just not enough!

I like their ability to plunge cleanly. The quality of cut is excellent, and maybe a bit above the bits and bits I am using now.

Makes sense that the high RPM low feedrate generates more power consumption, because for the same amount of material removed the cutter has to make many more cuts. And breaking up molecular bonds between the fibers of the wood is alot harder than throwing the resulting chips off to the side. Also small chips don't clear as efficiently.

Thanks so much for making this video! Great information and something I've always wanted to do with my bits but never had the time. That roughing bit is epic.... I soooo want one! Is it available in 6mm???

Well done! I know how tedious it can be to collect and collate data!

Very well done. You are very close to a tutorial on how to set your own cutting parameters. Could you please do a video to help us all do our own testing? I have yet to see a tutorial on how to set parameters. Always appreciate your videos!

Thank you. Makes me to want CNC also. That would also need an another man cave :) Have a great Christmas.

Thanks Marius, for Your usefull information.

Thanks will get some off those myself

Marius very well done video for your machine, I am curious if you do the same type of experiment where you ONLY do conventional cutting or climb cutting. I have noticed that where the bit is cutting in the same direction of the rotation of the spindle makes the edge more jagged if your feed is fast, smooth if your feed is rather slow. Chatter, one would expect at climb cut where the cut is going against the direction of the spindle.

I don’t know if it may have already been suggested, but adding some ‘Splicer’ filters to some of the more commonly filtered fields on your excel spreadsheet would make it far faster to select the best configuration. Also, thanks for your efforts and quality content, really enjoy your videos.

The blue screen of death gave me a good laugh.

great video , first time people without experience dont realise the heat has to be in the chip at least with flood coolent you have a chance with light feed rates because of poor spindle HP, there are to many very light duty machines on EBAY that should only be 3D printers, spindle HP and rigiditly are EVERYTHING

Another great video Marius! Those #Fraiser bits look great, I would love to get some for a work clamping system I've been working on, which was inspired by your CNC clamping solution.

Amazing information. Do you have your GCodes hosted anywhere like Github? I am trying to learn EdingCNC.

Very interesting subject. Well explained. I leave the give away for others. Thank you.

For the spindle stiffness I would not look into the mounting, that looks perfectly fine, but in the bearing arrangement. In the 3D model AMB provides, you can see the bearings probably are a set of 6002 type ball bearings, held in place with a circlip on the outside. For the inside I guess the two bearings are compressed with the motor shaft, presumably from the far side. This bearing arrangement has it's limits in precision (play). Angular contact bearings would be great, and they are even available in the same size: search for B7002-C-T-P4S. The trick with angular contact bearings is they come in sets, that pair to have a certain preload. There's a lot to find out if it could work in this situation, but I'm sure it would be a great improvement to the standard 6 euro bearings. Let me know, would be interesting to help. There's another way to improve bearing play and stiffness: shimming. I would suggest to shim in between the inner rings of the two 6002 bearings. Probably a few hundredths of a millimeter is needed. There are shim rings available, or you could cut them from thin sheet metal foil.

this is way too complicated for me, but I appreciate the thought and time you put into it.

#Fraiser I have a slab/cookie that has been drying for quite a while. While I have been working on it with a hand plane to surface the top, it is incredibly hard to get that end-grain cut well. It is also Oak, so my plane has been needing a good resharpening every few minutes. If I had some sort of good surfacing bit, I would be able to make short work of the surfacing and move on to adding legs and finishing this huge table. And for making sure it is level, I plan on using your method of a router sled for surfacing large slabs. If I dont get picked, I will probably still end up getting these Fraiser bits since you were able to give such a detailed table for best results lol. Keep up the great work, Marius! Much Love and Merry Christmas!

It should be possible to construct a chatter detection sensor by measuring the vibrations in the cutting head by some kind of heavy duty microphone. This would have the additional bonus to to be able to detect if the router bit has broken.

ideal bits for my pantorouter

Endlich noch jemand der den C++ Editor fürs NC Code lesen nutzt 👍🏻

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

Mit Farbe ist das einfach VIEL übersichtlicher

@flow0003

3 жыл бұрын

Ich hab mir extra eine eigene Sprache erstellt die genau das markiert was ich haben möchte

I have a lot of CNC projects that could use some Frasier love!

Hi Marius, cool video. It looks like a whole lot of work. But I think the sheet with all this cutting data is worth it. And I'm so thankfully that you share it with us. But how long did it take you to do this test series? And how much material was machined? #Fraiser I built a CNC not to long ago. I'm still improving it and try to find good router bits. And of course these bits are great for plunge router applications. Next Project will be a cabinet with a lot of drawers to organize all of my screws and nails and other parts. Because now they are all in a shelf right now and it's a just a mess. So there will be a lot of grooves and rabbets to be cut for the drawers.

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

The testing was done over several weeks. Material consumtion...maybe half a sheet of plywood

Great video as usual, thanks Marius! and Merry Xmas! #Fraiser next in my to do list is a mudroom bench with shoes boxes.

#Fraser I would use the bit in my upcoming kitchen renovation. Also been looking for good surfacing bit for some oak slabs. Thank You Marius for great video and shearing all that info work!!

As per @Frisco Rose. Great content.

#Fraiser - Best of the season to you Marius!

Do these spiral bits work with hand held routers or router tables too? Seems they can be had with some unusual shaft diameters compared to regular router bits...

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I showed that in the video

Well done.

Thanks for all of your extensive testing of these # Fraiser bits. I will be looking to use them on my new Onefinity CNC machine when it arrives. I sure enjoy your videos. I’ll bet your next one shows you beefing up the router mount on your Hammer! 😆

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of, yes

Hallo Marius, sehr aufwändiges Video und sehr detailliert. Übrigens, ich verwende deine Anleitung zum Bau der Schärfvorrichtung für Drechseleisen und verlinke selbstverständlich auf deinen Kanal ;) Gruß Stefan Benner

I would love to use these on my CNC.I will use the bits to make a new beter and bigger CNC macine.

Cool i was happy with the flattening bit, maby ill get something to make a bowl out of the Mahogani i bought before all the shops closed over here. :D So i would be able to cut this at 395 m/min conventional or should i slow down for this type of wood :P

What tool change system are you using? It looks awesome and super quick 😍

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

Mafell makes that spindel

I’d use the bits to carve wood/resin jewelry

really interesting and cool video

#fraiser wow you can really push those bits, just moved onto downcut/compression bit on my cnc these would make making the childrens signs and toys finish so much better. Great video, thankyou mate.

#Fraiser I am in the middle of designing and building my own diy cnc which I want to use for milling, but also plotting and laser cutting. One unrelated question: what excel feature do you use for the filtering the data? Thanks for the great work!

Time to build an enclosure for your CNC =D

7:22 That means, you cut 0,2mm wide and 35mm deap?

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

0,4mm stepover was also possible (that's in the spreadsheet)

450meter a minute ? should be mm or cm. i probably say something everyone already mentioned though. but great videos and great projects !! superb work !

#Fraiser I would love to try these bits out on my new Onefinity CNC! Learning to do 3D carves and those bits look very impressive! Very thorough video, thanks for taking the time!!

I would need these bits for a future guitar neck project on my youtube channel 😊

#Fraiser Great details. I need more science (not guessing) behind determining my speeds and feeds! I'd love one of these bits for the cutting boards I am making. Love your work - thanks for sharing!

I plan on buying X-Carve, so this giveaway would be great start!

I understand the testing you made, recording max speed without chatter. From steel machining, there is a called "economic" speed that is being used, meaning that overall life of tool insert is bigger with that speed, reducing overall cost. So called economic speed is lower than max speed you are mentioning.

like you for an interesting review of such a beautiful good useful technique

#frage hast du schon mal nach dem Werkzeug spannen eine messuhr auf den Werkzeugschaft angelegt? Geht drum was die spindel an rundlauffehler hat. Habe festgestelt das meine spindel 0,02 mm (2Hundertstel) hat..... Sind die spindel alle so oder schon ausgeschlagen?

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

Ich hab 0,01mm bei 30mm Auslage gemessen

#Frasier makes good bits. I would use them to make carved cabinet doors on my cnc. Great video, my cnc may need different data but your method of generating the date and then filtering it is going to be very useful. Thank You!

#Fraiser is a really cool company. i bought my first bits a few weeks ago and they're suuuuuuper lovely. they shipped insanely quickly and i even got stickers, a pencil and some haribo. bit expensive, but if they have the bit i need they'll be my go-to company. highly recommended. i don't have one of these roughing bits yet but i learned some things here that make it clear how interesting and useful it would be for my next project: a small wiki house. really great video Marius, thank you!

Dude .. you are the best 👍👍👍

14:45 Can you prevent the fraying edges by attaching a thin piece of sacrificial wood on top?

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

That could help, but usuylly is not worth the effort. A down cutting bit works best

Great video good man

Very informative thanks for sharing.

I noticed that all of the cuts were done on plywood. I know plywood is challenging in its own right. However my question is, How do those bits do in hard wood. Harder of the hard woods like purple heart or jatoba. I ask because these are ones that I use. they will wear out a regular bit fast, even good carbides to last as long in these. What are your thoughts? Love your channel by the way.

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't use the max. possible settings from plywood for these hardwoods. I'd try about 75% stepover (compared to max. possible in plywood) and chip load not below 0,05mm

They called crisps in the UK!

#Fraiser I would use it for maiking drawers using a jig on my router. Great video Marius as always, thanks for the efforts you put into that data.

5:55 Does it make a difference, if you go with the rotation of the bit or against it?

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Going against the rotation gives a better finish in most cases. With the rotation is easier on the bits (not really important for wood, only for metals)

As usual, great video with a lot information. Thanks for that. #Fraiser. Some bits to make templates on the CNC for my next project: a bench ;). Have a good Xmas.

Merry Christmas 🎄⛄ ☃️❄ 🎅 2020

Would it not be more time efficient to ignore chatter, except for the finishing cut?

@MariusHornberger

3 жыл бұрын

Chatter is never good. Bits can break because of that and makes for a shorter machine life

Darn good job!