►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: kzread.info ►Compare the VW ID4 GTX: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6WlypmggZzXh7w.html ►Compare the Audi Q4 e-tron: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6aKxsFymtGshLg.html ►Compare the Skoda Enyaq: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKF9ltGvppnSXbw.html ►Compare the Ford Mustang Mach-E: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqaiwZuIp7nee6Q.html ►Compare the BMW iX3: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3WMtKOKfK_gZso.html 00:00 How good is the Tesla Model Y ? 00:36 Length, styling and chassis technology 01:53 Rear design & acceleration figures 02:30 Light details 02:40 Build quality / panel gaps 03:01 Standard equipment! 03:33 Battery and recharging 03:45 Interior 05:11 Seating position 05:37 Cockpit overview 06:34 Infotainment system and range 09:23 Rear seats 10:28 Interior build quality / panel gaps 10:43 Trunk / boot 13:11 Frunk 13:21 German Autobahn / motorway driving with acceleration and top speed vmax 22:48 Countryside driving / normal roads 29:46 Agile driving up the hill #Tesla #TeslaModelY Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

@livolas

2 жыл бұрын

I always wondered why you advocate for animal free materials. Isn't leather a byproduct of the meat industry? As long as meat demand far overweighs leather demand and cows get killed anyway, why should so many leather pelts go to waste instead of being used?

@ilin76bb

2 жыл бұрын

08:05 die unterschiedle Lichttemperatur hat einen Grund. Nämlich die Autopilot Software :) Wenn du dir den AI Day von Tesla ansiehst - da erwähnen die das soweit ich mich erinneren kann.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oISTpdiFnMSsnKw.html In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse? The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pp-epaOmoZTFaKg.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette. And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p21ou7qDZ5W7hKQ.html Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.

@jamc666

2 жыл бұрын

@@autogefuehl ... Hi there. Interesting review since i'm considering buying a Tesla. Got 2-3 questions : in your video you said you wouldnt recommend the 'performance' version. Why is that ? and as far as suspension is concerned, is it too stiff ? not enough ? ... and one last point, you mentioned something about 'ambient light' in the tunnel. What do you mean by that, i.e. what were you missing ?. Cheers.

Model Y finally met my favorite reviewer and autobahn.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

In my Performance Model 3, I set my mirrors once. Saved the setting to my profile and never changed it for a year an a half. My wife is 1,64 m and I’m 1,95 m. We only have to change profiles and outside mirrors and seat are adjusted automatically. One of the best features.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s indeed very nice!

@ar-2-r

2 жыл бұрын

That’s how it works in Tesla. Very practical solution which me and my wife use a lot in model S.

@MrQwerty3000

2 жыл бұрын

Surprises me that some reviewers complain about the lack of buttons to control things like wing mirrors when they get used once and after that you may as well tear them out of the car and throw them away 🤣

@Chris.Davies

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's such a nightmare having to adjust a seat and wing mirrors when you get in a car. People really struggle with that shit.

@philorgneopolotin8762

2 жыл бұрын

Yep that’s why I was confused why he didn’t like the placement of the mirrors and steering wheel adjustments. You just set it to whatever you want, and then save the profile and BAM it’s immediately saved forever. Saves your seating position, steering wheel placement, mirror settings, and automatically adjusts it back to wherever you want with 1 click. And can save multiple profiles for multiple people. This seemed like a non-issue to me since you only ever set it once and it’s saved forever

You know it's serious when Thomas whips out his new dual ruler. He brought his A-game with this one. 😅

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

😁

@TheAegisClaw

2 жыл бұрын

I still find it odd that Germans don't use tape measures.

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

@@autogefuehl Thomas the big bins at the sides of the trunk is the best place for the charging cables, etc. Then you have the under floor and the frunk empty. Also lift the floor behind the seats. Useful storage there well.

@ksmith660

2 жыл бұрын

But Born's got a laser measure for even more accuracy!

@TheAegisClaw

2 жыл бұрын

@@ksmith660 a fricken laser!

I test drove the Model Y with the same 20-inch wheels, the slightly rough ride really is the only weakness of this car. The space and comfort in the rear seats is superb

@Londonistan_Calling

2 жыл бұрын

What about the widely reported super-aggresive regen?

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Londonistan_Calling More about this in my review in the driving part. You could adjust it in the infotainment in older models, not available anymore though.

@thorsev6960

2 жыл бұрын

Actually feel the rear seating comfort is not that great, compared to for example ID.4 or Enyaq. The seats are pretty flat and as a tall person I would prefer the bench being higher from the floor. Knees in a awkward position.

@duncanaronstein7462

2 жыл бұрын

@@Londonistan_Calling You learn how to press the pedal so that it never feels aggressive. It's only aggressive when you let off the pedal entirely.

@Tom_Mroz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Londonistan_Calling As Duncan mentioned you learn to adjust your feel of acceleration pedal, then it becomes very smooth. The good thing is eventually you don't need to use brake pedal, except emergency situation. Car comes to complete stop very gently. If you manoeuvre up or down the hill you never need to worry that car will roll unexpectedly.

Volvo, Lynk Co and this Tesla Model Y have proved that there is nothing different on Chinese labour on building quality. The only problem with the Chinese product is their company's management.

@Deveonn

2 жыл бұрын

Apple has proven that for a decade..

@victorc.979

2 жыл бұрын

And bmw

@eddiexiang3606

2 жыл бұрын

You get what you pay for. Low price = cheap quality most of the time. Doesn’t matter if it is made in China/US/UK or whatever.

@aidanlee2871

2 жыл бұрын

still...Model Y and 3 SRs use batteries from a Chinese company...as Jackie Chan said before "中國的會爆炸" I would buy the LRs and the performance versions, even though the car itself is still made in China, the batteries are made by LG

@acde9355

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidanlee2871 Oh, I know that joke "中國的會爆炸". But I have to say it has been an old joke and it was not used on describing a battery. I thought he was talking about the television.

We got one last week and we can honestly say, it is the only car you will ever need

@daz3022

2 жыл бұрын

How do you find the suspension? Is it as bad as reviewers make out or actually OK?

Can’t wait for the Berlin Y!

@stephenstevens5746

2 жыл бұрын

IF the MIC model y handles like that with him saying amazing sooo many times and comparing it to a gt3. I can't wait for him to test the german one and give his thoughts.

@globalimpactinstitute

2 жыл бұрын

Esp since very likely the MYs from Berlin will come with 4680 batteries which means most likely a drop in consumption due to lighter weight and a hefty increase in range - like 20%. Plus most likely in additional cool colours because of the brand new paint shop and - rumour has it - maybe even air suspension... plus it should be cheaper because import tax will disappear.

@Wotan2900

2 жыл бұрын

Order in already! Just have to convince the wife :-S ;-)

@daz3022

2 жыл бұрын

@@globalimpactinstitute I'm hearing that possibly only the performance model will come with 4680s otherwise they'd really upset all the early buyers of the MIC long range.

Here in Greece the Audi Q5 etron with the same equipment of a tesla which is also slower and with less range cost around 6.000 euros more. I think Tesla is a bargain.

The way the glovebox control is implemented allows you to secure the glovebox with a PIN.

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

And, normally by voice control. "Open glove box"

@richcuddy4989

2 жыл бұрын

Incase your wife is on the prowl for you mistresses panties

Tesla camera parameters are actually optimized for the neural net and image processing. The exception is rear camera which primarily serves humans for backing up the car. The side camera views that are shown on screen can be considered as an add-ons. Glove box physical control is not given, so that you can set a pin for your car and stop the valets or thieves from getting to the glove box.

@FizzBhaal

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Except the S/X have a physical button which is just electric, so you can still set a PIN. Pressing the button will then pop up the PIN display. I think it is a question of design, in the SX they could hide the button next to the screen. In the 3Y there is nowhere to hide it, so they removed it

@Moebelmannn

2 жыл бұрын

Not really an explanation on the cameras. They could adjust image temperature settings for just the driver view in the car, that would have no effect on the camera parameters as utilized by their neural net.

The most comprehensive & unbiased review I've seen on the Model Y. Thank you!

Finally some good entertainment before I go to sleep. Well done on the review once again Tom and Autogefühl.

I rode in a model 3 a week ago. One thing no reviewer mentions is the enormous amount of floor space for the passenger. I had another person sitting behind me with plenty of room and I could fully straighten my legs under the glovebox. I also got to drive it a bit. You basically never use the brake pedal at all because the motor regen will bring the car to a complete stop. It's weird at first but easy to get used to. I feel like once you have used one pedal driving for a while it would be annoying to go back to a normal car.

@philorgneopolotin8762

2 жыл бұрын

One pedal driving is so nice. You end up only ever touching the brakes like 1-2 times during a normal drive and only ever in emergency or hard breaking situations. It really is just a better system overall

@albertross-ndt

2 жыл бұрын

Was it Robin?

@azir64

Жыл бұрын

Yes but due to the high floor you feel like you're squatting instead of sitting :(

We have our Y since May, recommend it to anyone who think about EV. Was thinking about one of the Chinese front displays but after driving it for a while totally don't miss it. (we also have 2016 Model S) Great review by the waY!

It took me a week to adjust to look slightly to the right to see the speedometer. It isn’t an issue. What initially is weird is the totally black space above the steering wheel, because there isn’t a instrument cluster. After a while it actually is great, because easier on the eye when driving a night. I do not agree with the need of the instrument cluster. It is just what your use too. Within a week maybe two you won’t miss it.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your extensive Feedback ☺️

@archigoel

2 жыл бұрын

True, with new Model S Yoke...people who try it for a day "complain"....people who try it for a week love it and don't want to go back. Some tesla features have a little learning curve.

@wachoindeed6848

2 жыл бұрын

Heads up display would be the icing on the cake. Augmented reality would be amazing, road signs etc beamed onto the screen

Glove box is unlocked on screen to allow users to add a pin to prevent valet or anyone from opening it since there is to key to lock it like other cars and as Elon says “the best part is no part”

@martinsvensson6884

2 жыл бұрын

Except this is going to make glove boxes now suddenly unreliable. Something noone on earth has ever had a problem with the last 100 years. You could lock these with a simple reagular lock that never ever fails.. without any electronics whatsoever. That we know will fail sooner or later.

@FizzBhaal

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinsvensson6884 Not sure that is really a problem. The car doors are already electric (in all cars with frameless windows), and you operate them a lot more than the glovebox. And they are a lot more critical. I think removing the button was mostly a question of design. In the S/X they found a place on the dash next to the screen to hide the button (and it is still electric, so can be blocked by pin). On the 3/Y there was no good spot, so design trumped utility because most people use the glovebox very seldom.

@FizzBhaal

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinsvensson6884 Not sure that is really a problem. The car doors are already electric (in all cars with frameless windows), and you operate them a lot more than the glovebox. And they are a lot more critical. I think removing the button was mostly a question of design. In the S/X they found a place on the dash next to the screen to hide the button (and it is still electric, so can be blocked by pin). On the 3/Y there was no good spot, so design trumped utility because most people use the glovebox very seldom.

@acefighterpilot

2 жыл бұрын

It's not that there isn't a part, it's just that a) you can't see it b) it is more complicated and expensive than a simple latch and key

@joetz1

2 жыл бұрын

It can also be unlocked with the voice recognition software Just say “open glove compartment” and it pops right open. Much more convenient than using the screen

Great review. Test drove a LR Model Y with 20” wheels and it was impressive. My initial concerns were lack of heads up display/dash display but I quickly adapted. Acceleration was impressive and the suspension felt good, knowing it was 20” wheels. Very strong contender for next vehicle purchase.

This is the one I’ve been waiting for. Great review from the friendliest car reviewer on YT. Thanks, Thomas!

Definitely one of the best reviews I've seen. Nice job. I subscribed and Look forward to watcing more quality reviews.

In the 18 months I have my TM3P I only had to switch summer tires to winter tires vice versa and top up the wiper fluid.

Thanks a lot ! Now I want a model Y as I wait for my Tri-Motor Cybertruck ! I love the Shanghai made model Y, the updated interior (door panel wood) and overall build quality is super encouraging. Thanks for the awesome review Thomas :-)

The rear camera is not used for autopilot, it has green filters (RGGB) complementing human perception. The side cameras are for autopilot, they don't have green filters (RCCB, C means clear), in order to improve night vision. Think about the green images in those military night vision goggles, green is key under low light.

@mondotv4216

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but why not give them a simple temperature adjustment circuit? My guess is that it’s just a cost thing.

@zerosugarmatcha7348

2 жыл бұрын

@@mondotv4216 Yes they can process the stream before sending to the display, my guess is they prioritize other tasks for the precious computing and power cap, the users rarely turn those video on anyway. Besides, there will be some people want to see what the car actually sees.

@ev.c6

2 жыл бұрын

Cool technical explanation. Thanks.

@rud

2 жыл бұрын

@@mondotv4216 they could in the Y. But in the 3 it was a feature they came up with in software after having designed the hardware. But I guess they could do it in a hardware refresh or update.

Thank you for your excellent video. I especially liked your “stress tests” of the Tesla driving to high light the short comings in suspension, power consumption, and road noise. I learned a lot about the screen diagnostics features you used. I wholeheartedly agree that an instrument cluster is needed to improve the driving experience. It is awkward to always depend on selecting a feature on the video screen while driving! You made this very clear. Keep up the excellent work!

Thank you for highlighting the fact that many functions such as temperature can be changed using voice commands while keeping both hands on the steering wheel. Most reviewers complain that it’s dangerous not having buttons or knobs because everything *must* be controlled via the touch screen.

Thank you, Thomas, for a great review. I rented one just like this (LR, 20" wheels) earlier this year and really, really enjoyed it. I'm wondering if they tuned the suspension a bit differently for Europe? I noticed that it was a bit rough around the city but it was quite good on the American Interstate. I found it very relaxing to drive long distances and the Supercharging was excellent. I grew to love the simple interface and with the phone-as-a-key feature I never had to think about entering or exiting the car. It felt like an automotive extension of myself.

Absolutely love your reviews!!! Can't wait for you to test the German-made one next and talk more about the progress Tesla is making!

Thanks for such honest and professional review. I always enjoy your review! A friend from the great white north 🇨🇦 !

I've had my 3 on mountain switchbacks and it was great fun. Regen makes it so easy to drive. My favorite features are one peddle driving, navigation, sound system, motor torque and overall quietness. The Tesla Y may be an improvement but at speeds other than Autobahn speeds, my 3 handles perfectly fine. The simplicity actually grows on you over time but still, a HUD would enhance driving pleasure quite a bit.

In the US the Model Y was granted a 5.4 out of 5 for safety by NSHTA. The safest production car you can buy. Curtain airbags aren’t an option. They are standard. In my previous Audi A4 Avant they where an option. With Tesla safety isn’t an option. It is standard.

@RustyHeartsTOV

2 жыл бұрын

lol how old was that A4? At least in germany curtain airbags are standard in all cars in the last 10 years.

8:43 switching to dark mode at sunset time and mirrors dimming also based on time (some time after sunset) is not the best user experience. They should use ambient light sensor.

@ericy.2108

2 жыл бұрын

@@EtherOne yes, I think they could implement better auto dim behavior just by using the existing cameras. Hope to see that in an update sometime.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it should change according to current light and not gps based

@andrasbiro3007

2 жыл бұрын

I've been driving a Model S for almost 3 years and didn't notice this. Using the cameras for this would be a simple software update, no light sensor needed.

@Tom_Mroz

2 жыл бұрын

I keep dark mode all day.

@daz3022

2 жыл бұрын

I did 600 miles in a rented Model 3 and manually set the display in night mode. It's just like having an iPhone in dark mode and I think actually works better in most scenarios.

EXTREMLY DETAILED REVIEW! Just subscribed! Great Job!

I always look forward to Autogefuhl reviews. Love from the UK

The Model Y is gonna crush it in Europe!

@oliverbleicher8382

2 жыл бұрын

not with that suspension

As always Thomas nailing it again. I have my own Model 3 and find a lot of similarities with the suspension part. Overall the Model Y is a good buy if you need the extra space and have the budget.

Loved the autobahn portions, and when the commentary is delivered with the German accent it just makes it much more convincing! ;-) Liked and Subscribed.

Another fantastic review from the world’s best reviewer, Thomas. I downloaded the acceleration boost for my Model 3. You must try that Thomas!

Great review as always! Two things I'd love to see in your overviews 1. Measure the height from the seats that are laying down to the ceiling for SUVs. This is important for pet owners with large dogs :) 2. Find a relatively inexpensive DB tester to use while at highway speeds. It would be interesting to see how some models compare to others for sound tests.

@jerrypolverino6025

2 жыл бұрын

I have a Db measurement on my Apple Watch. However when you pay so much for a watch you can’t afford a Tesla.

Thank you very much for al these awesome reviews. I look forward for your Model S Plaid review, and of course, an autobahn test of it :D

@autogefuehl

Жыл бұрын

Tesla Model S plaid review: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d5qapJZueba1abA.html Tesla Model X plaid review: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKZhs9yeesjKcsY.html

Always enjoy your videos, including this one.

Great review, Thomas. Thanks

As a new (and first time) owner of a Model 3, you are spot on with the SMOOTH accelerating and braking! If you stab at the pedals like you are used to with an ICE vehicle, you will make your passengers sick. I almost found out the hard way with my daughter...it was a close call!

Seat comfort/cushioning in the Y is impressive. I’ve experienced many German vehicles and the seat comfort in the Tesla is my favorite. You don’t need some expensive, rare nappa leather for it to be comfortable. The seat cushioning is perfect. Agree with Thomas about the suspension I would pay to upgrade to an air suspension if offered. I also would like a ventilated seat choice as well. I don’t really miss ambient lighting it’s not so much a premium feature anymore as every brand has it and I find the simple lighting in the Tesla’s to be a calmer experience. The UI and software experience is another level and has yet to be approached by traditional makes. Anyone else offer in vehicle entertainment and gaming? It will be interesting to see if someone like Nintendo partners with a car company to enhance in vehicle gaming. Anyone considering etron or German makes I spoke with a service advisor and they still are going to hit you with scheduled maintenance the only thing you won’t do is oil changes, so if you enjoy visiting your dealer and spending money don’t worry their EV’s will still offer that experience. Personally I like the way Tesla does it recommending some things but service “as needed”.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@ilcomendante

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, that’s some convoluted BS you’re spreading here. Teslas don’t need scheduled service? They don’t even have a proper service network for starters. Don’t be a blind fanboy not cute..

@archigoel

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilcomendante They actually do, however it varies from region to region. This is not 2018..tesla has been expanding like crazy. How many service delay complaints you still hear -- compared to situation 3 years ago.

Great review as always. The only neutral review. And the only reviewer talking about manufacturing Innovations like mega casting. 👍 Great Video

Dude, you remind of my friends long time ago bitching about "real buttons" on the iPhone 😂

Will be interesting to compare against the new Hyundai and Kia EVs.

Thanks for the most informative review of the Tesla Y I have yet seen. I love the fact you don’t resort to histrionics especially when describing performance numbers. It seems it has amazing room inside, which means everything to a family. Zero -60 performance is great, however the vast majority of owners will be more concerned about distance between charging, comfort, and how much it carries.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

Highly appreciated! Also tune in to our winter episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jH-KvKaqdNy_npc.html

Absolutely agree with the the harsh release of the throttle. My son tends to do that, which is quite uncomfortable.

Brilliant review, quality as always!

Great review, however no mention about how this compares with the BMW iX3?

8:08 the camera's don't have different color temperatures actually. Since the side camera's are mostly used for AI they have different camera sensors that instead of RGB (red green blue) have RCCB (red clear clear blue) pixels, that's why it looks different.

@tcfs

2 жыл бұрын

Some kind of "software color correction" would be nice to normalize the color temperature for the entire screen.

@wpte

2 жыл бұрын

@@tcfs the point is that there's no green channel, you can take the clear channel perhaps but it will always look off. Perhaps they already apply the colour correction lut the manufacturer of the cameras has made.

Very detailed and thorough review ! Ausgeseichnet I think you're spot on with the suspension...but perhaps it will be mellowed out later....one can always hope !

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

👌

Thanks Thomas for a great review. Would you say the Volvo XC40 P8 has better ride and handling?

Hey Thomas! - that's not an "old S Class" - that's my current daily driver here in the US! - a 1990 420SEL. For the last 5 years or so, the German cars have been VERY harsh - sport suspensions, run flat low profile rubberband tires and 21" wheels are the trifecta for kidney damage. MBZ and BMW are just as guilty of bad rides.

No casting in the front... yet... 😉

Thank you Thomas, you just reconfirmed I made a good decision ordering my model Y, it's scheduled for January delivery (USA). Great video!

I've been watching tons of Tesla videos and this is definitely the best one I've seen! Good work! And i have to also say that I've been driving a Tesla Model Y for few days and have to say that it's a wonderful car except suspension specially you can notice it when you are facing a speed bump or driving in a not so good roads. Hopefully in the future Tesla will fix that problem.

From 30:00 I watched it twice , phenomenal excitement now for my MY that’s due in February 2022. ( Portugal)

Hey Thomas, your reviews are always informative and engaging. I just pre-ordered the Rivian R1S after a year of obsessive research. I can't wait for you to review/compare the R1S with other similarly priced ICE SUVs (e.g. Range Rover) or premium EV SUVs.

Though AutoPilot isn’t up to snuff yet, the current functionality is already so much better than other and make boring drives on the highway much more convenient and relaxing. NYou won’t accidentally swerve out of your lane. The car will only change lanes when it is save, when you turn one the blinkers. The car will brake automatically when car in front of you slow down, even to a complete stop. Fantastic. If you haven’t noticed; I’m a fan. When you’re open to the idea to drive electric and you drive a Tesla you will become one too.

Great channel, and Thomas seems like such a genuine guy. However, I think you should have : made a comparison to the model 3 talked about autopilot features

Very good review (again)! I like it you pay a lot attention to the details and the quality of the car(s) I recognize a lot of things about my own (shorter) testdrive of the Model Y. Great car. I'm also missing the (colourful) ambient lightening in the interior. And a HUD would be nice indeed. But I also have to say that the central display will be normal in a small period of time. Hopefully Tesla will add air suspension to the Y. Then it will be more comfortable and perhaps even more efficient because of the option to lowering the car on the highway. Personally I'm waiting for the German model Y with the new battery :-)

Great detailed review. Would love to hear your thoughts on the performance model

@veed71

2 жыл бұрын

Same but faster;)

Great review and demo!

Compelling accuracy… I trust your channel. Shortly swapping my 2019 X5 for a MY LR….. I hope I don’t regret it

As far as the suspension is concerned, km77 tested the Model Y in the moose test. It tied for the highest successful entry speed at 83 km/h, way higher than Taycan, Porsche 911, and the EV competitors. The ID.4 was actually dangerous with unexpected oversteer on recovery. It would be a great upgrade of Tesla could have better dual rate springs by default to allow more cushioned feel while retaining the emergency maneuvering capability.

@UnseenSpirit

Жыл бұрын

Moose test is one thing, but real world feel is another

@garrylong2993

9 ай бұрын

There’s a big if though, the regen on the tesla is a lot stronger and can’t be turned off. The speeds at the end of the test were a lot lower on the tesla than the taycan

After 2 years with my Model 3, the glove box is not a problem. 2 taps or voice command. As for mirror and steering wheel adjustments, we just create profiles once for different drivers and situation (charging for example). The car also knows who is driver and adjusts accordingly as you get in. Brilliant!

Great video my man. I really appreciated your unbiased approach to this vehicle. It's difficult to find reviews that aren't extremely biased for/against Teslas.

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

Highly appreciated!

Hi great review thanks. I was wondering how do you like the interior compared to the Hyundai Ioniq 5? More or less crammed? Quality diffs?

Thanks Thomas, it is what I always say, there is no perfect car on the market yet.

Sandy Munro, when comparing the Mach-E to the Y, noted the Tesla suspension was similar in design to a BMW. If a Y doesn't handle like a BMW, it's likely more of a weight issue.

@martinsvensson6884

2 жыл бұрын

No. German cars with that weight dont have sub par suspension.

@rkan2

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinsvensson6884 Did you even read what he said? Tesla has wishbone/multilink only Audi afaik has true multilink.

@davidradtke160

2 жыл бұрын

@@rkan2 I think it’s probably more tuning of the suspension with the tires and weight taken into account etc, not just so much the suspension set up itself that makes the difference.

@acefighterpilot

2 жыл бұрын

That is not how suspension systems work. There are only a few different common designs, but it's the specific geometry and tuning that makes every vehicle unique, in particular the specification of the shocks and springs.

First class review thank you very much and your command of English is really superb by the way.

Thomas, thank you so much. It’s the first time I’ve seen one of your reviews and you’re wonderful! I’m a Tesla nut - we have three 3s, as in Australia that’s all we can get at the moment. Looking forward to being allowed to buy a Y. 😎

Comparing Tesla and ICE emissions, don't forget to include all the emissions to generate the energy needed to drill for, transport, refine and transport again your full tank of gasoline...

@bjonkofficial

Жыл бұрын

According to Fully Charged, ICE need more electricity per mile than EVs!

@olifilipe

Жыл бұрын

Yes, because supplies to build either come from heaven.

@josephquinto5812

11 ай бұрын

Cars are the easy sector to achieve clean emissions. The production chain is being addressed, and it is quite obvious a difficult task. It will be years before we can produce rare earth metals cleanly, but the day will come. We shouldn’t sit and twiddle our thumbs because every single sector isn’t completely clean yet; humans need to innovate in order to ensure our survival, even after the earth is no longer here.

Great review, look forward to reviewing the German made Model Y!

I test drove model Y as well. Superb car! Biggest nags were a bit rough ride and tire noise.

超详细的驾驶评测，很不错！

You say the suspension is bad, but it’s the best moose test. It’s sporty. Not for everyone, but not bad, it’s safe in dangerous situations.

The color of the side cameras will never be accurate because those are not RGB (Red, Green, Blue) cameras, but RCCB (Red, Clear, Clear, Blue). These are similar to the Bayer sensor except the green pixels are clear, providing more low-light sensitivity and less noise, which are critical for the autopilot and similar features.

@dmitri7456

2 жыл бұрын

White balance is a very simple thing to solve in post-processing, which Tesla did not choose to do. Every smartphone in the world does it. In fact, I would not be surprised if they release a software update which will fix this.

@lmmo77

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmitri7456 no. The cameras just capture two colours. You would need a third color in order to properly reconstruct the color with good accuracy.

@dmitri7456

2 жыл бұрын

@@lmmo77 I don't think you understand much at all about post-processing. The camera could be black and white and the post-processed image could be color, as long as you have a reference image, which you do in this case. But nvm, not going to bother arguing this on KZread.

@lmmo77

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmitri7456 good that you know more than everyone else (Tesla engineers included). A pity that you don't want to share your knowledge. If you can guide me to some information about color spaces with just 2 dimensions that have a good color reproduction, I would appreciate. Thanks!

@jonathanmelhuish4530

2 жыл бұрын

Might look more natural if they displayed them in black and white.

I have driven a Model Y for over a year now in US. I agree with you on all the strong points and the weak ones. I don't mind not having a heads-up display or a front instrument panel, so it's not such a negative to me. The suspension, however, can certainly be built/tuned better. Honestly though, I don't notice much about the suspension jolts anymore after months with the car. It's still super fun to drive every single time. The acceleration thrills when the pedal is pressed never get old! I also found the standard (aggressive) regen braking works well for me. In fact, it's a huge plus! The convenience of one-pedal driving and the regen braking that comes with it mean efficiency. I'm sure other drivers can adapt to Tesla's regen behaviors after a short while. The brake pedal is still needed in urgent situations; it's just not used that often. Naturally the brake pads will wear out a lot slower in an EV.

Only reviewer I trust for an unbiased opinion. Well, except for on seat upholstery choice and door sound. : )

Got my performance y yesterday. Here in Canada Tesla delivers all cars with 45 psi tire pressure. Lovering that to 38 psi made huge difference in ride quality even on my 21 inch rims and tires. Try that and you will love it. Excellent review as always Tomas. Big hello from Canada !

@martinsvensson6884

2 жыл бұрын

Should never use other tire pressure than what the manufacturer has stated. Can upset the car in unexpected ways during emergancy. Also it will increase consumtion significantly.

@TheGOF

2 жыл бұрын

Elon agrees, “Highly recommend dropping tire pressure 10% below max to ~39 psi for comfort. Only affects range by ~2%” - from his twitter post. Toyo is good about posting the Load and Inflation Tables from The Tire and Rim Association (US standards publication). Find that and you can confirm that lower pressures are safe.

Model Y and Ioniq 5 are my two favorite crossover EVs

@lars667

2 жыл бұрын

IONIQ5 is a fantastic and comfortable car. Much nicer ride than the Y. But the Y is way more practical for hauling stuff. Just not load it too heavy 😨

@ZekeMagnum

2 жыл бұрын

@@lars667 ioniq displays look like 2 ipads from 2010 with those big ass ugly borders

@wolfejar

2 жыл бұрын

I have both on reservation and can’t seem to decide. It’s very difficult to pick a clear winner 🥇 here. Each have their pros/cons.

Very detailed video. Perfect

Best review of MY LR out of a million reviews on YT. 👍😀

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

Highly appreciated ✌️

What a refreshing and insightful review. I'm an EV fan in general and I am especially impressed with Tesla in particular. However reviews in the US tend to be biased for or against Tesla. Your comments such as regarding the suspension, choosing the LR over the performance model, and about the lack of heads-up display all seemed insightful -- things Tesla might even use as feedback for future models. Regarding the suspension, you said that the Germans are better. I wonder is that comparing mid-level spec vehicles between Tesla and the other manufacturers? I wonder how Tesla's performance model compares against the German competitors. The prices are changing all the time, but the performance model isn't so much more than the long range version. Great review, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your content.

@acefighterpilot

2 жыл бұрын

@@passing_bye5991 Elon is not the messiah - his 'release' of those patents was just a page on Tesla's website claiming they would not sue for patent infringement if the company using the patent agreed to never sue anybody for infringing on its own patents. You can see how such an arrangement is useful to a startup that doesn't really know how to build a car properly.

@harsimranbansal5355

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, here in North America we don’t have many EVs, at least not good ones, and there’s basically no where to charge unless you got a tesla. That’s why 8 out of 10 EVs sold here at teslas! I drove the model Y and didn’t find the suspension too stiff, i think it’s mostly just the high tire pressure, of like 44psi. Lower it to just 35 gets the ride that is really smooth.

@idlstrade3738

2 жыл бұрын

Ive driven a lot of Audi/Mercedes/BMW and I don't like Mercedes suspension except for the sport versions for example. I think the tesla suspension is very, very good... Even better than the standard suspension on the BMW 3-4 series.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

Try a VW. Very good suspensions, overall.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@harsimranbansal5355 Makes for too much vertical movement at that low a psi over wavy and dippy roads.

I'm with you Thomas! I want the white interior color with the wood trim from the black interior. I think I would order the white interior and then order the would trim pieces to replace at extra cost....

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

👌

Excellent review

Great and informative video! What reference have you used on the Model Y having a aluminum chassis?

The glove box control on the screen is for security. They moved the usb dock from the middle console to the glovebox and provided the option to passcode protect it so it wouldn’t get stolen. Very practical to me.

@FizzBhaal

2 жыл бұрын

Model S/X does the same, but still provides a button integrated in the design. It’s an electric button, and will pop up the PIN on the screen if enabled

Hey Thomas, great video! This is not made with the new giga castings and 4680 cells. Only the rear is 1 piece. The battery and front giga casting will be ready when Giga Berlin opens later this year.

I have never seen you going so much into details about a car. To me it says everything: you were so impressed you worked really hard to find something to “complain” about and not piss off your German friends at VW/BMW/MB 😉

Excellent review! The build quality for MIC Tesla’s are very good. Will be great once giga Berlin and Texas factory’s are up and running.

@cargueone1971

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about the Texas factory, but the rest of the world will be great. The Fremont built ones are horrible. I don’t see the Texas ones built any better. The Americans that buy Teslas have a cult like mentality, and will accept any quality Tesla gives them.

@JAM_2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@cargueone1971 I disagree. The Fremont facility is very old and outdated now. I think eventually only low volume cars such as S X and roadster will be produced in Fremont. All car companies have fanatical fans it’s not limited to Tesla. And they have had no issues putting up with the garbage unreliable over engineered ICE crap as well.

@cargueone1971

2 жыл бұрын

@@JAM_2024 Toyota’s Mississippi plant is one of Toyota’s newest plants and assembly quality is horrible on Corollas, compared the the Corolla built in Japan. It’s very noticeable. Also Fremont may be old, but not the equipment. The assembly workers are also the most experienced on assembling Teslas. With cheaper labor and inexperienced Texas workers, I don’t see the quality any better than Fremont. In this current era, talented workers in the trade tend to open their own businesses and for for themselves rather to work in a factory for a corporation. The current American work pool is very limited on skilled trades people, compared to the rest of the world, and our country has become more service oriented trained in our workforce.

@fluitfluiten

2 жыл бұрын

@@cargueone1971 Elon excplained already that the quality will go up tremendously once the new factories open. Right now they just can't shut down the production lines at Fremont for a complete overhaul because they need the cashflow.

I feel its possibly the best exterior look of any Tesla so far, still not for me. Thomas, I saw Ryan Douthit on Driving Sports TV drive the new Lexus UX, are you going to drive it soon too?

Very honest review. I test drove one today and the suspension was a clear weakness

Thomas, great review.

@autogefühl another fantastic review by Tomas. Brilliant to see Tesla improvements but no HUD is crazy. When are you hoping to complete a review on the BMW i4 M50 and also the Kia EV6? Thanks, my favourite car channel by far! Ps Tomas Blue is also my favourite, San Marino blue in BMW 😍

@koruki

2 жыл бұрын

The i4 is embarrassing slow for it’s price

@autogefuehl

2 жыл бұрын

Our Kia EV6 review is now here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6aktZVqYcjTcbQ.html

So I certainly agree with your oversight comments about Tesla models 3 & Y suspensions & I think having the controls located on the one screen throws a lot of people when they first get the car, but I was able to quickly adapt to the one screen being located in the center of the dash as it gives it that minimalist balanced look, but it’s not a major thing to overcome! So the suspension was my issue as well & I certainly hope that in the future they offer a different suspension than what’s currently standard on the model 3 & Y & I think overall if an individual is making a decision as to whether he or she is going to buy a Tesla or some other brand, they should take into consideration the overall cost of ownership, as well as the fact that I don’t know of another vehicle that can actually do what Tesla cars can do in terms of driver assist features, even while we have criticism coming from some detractors of Tesla & also from the US government agencies investigating Tesla’s use of these features, but Tesla is a head of all the other car brands in terms of achieving a fully autonomous driving car! So unlike the other car manufacturers Tesla has imagined a future where no one drives a motor vehicle on the highway any place in the world & they are well on their way in my opinion of achieving it & the other thing to consider is their network of DC fast chargers, as Tesla has more of these DC fast charges than anyone & they’re continuing to build out their network of these DC fast chargers! So I’d say that overall Tesla is simply the better value for the money! So thank you for posting this video & I gave you 2👍🏾👍🏾 up for content & quality & look forward to seeing you in your next posting! Cheers!

Excellent review, one of the best on KZread. I agree that Tesla needs to work on the suspension, it's the only real problem that needs to be sorted.

great review!