Check out how the Model X stacks up against other EVs here on our website where we've logged data from all of our tests! outofspecstudios.com/10-challenge

@bernhardleopold6702

4 ай бұрын

Love the format of this test. You should definitely test more cars, especially missing is the new Model S (non plaid 19") and the legacy Model 3 LR RWD with the Panasonic battery. These might give the Taycan and the Lucid a run for their money (considering the price of the Model 3 at least).

@jon1913

4 ай бұрын

This 10% is great, I just wish you guys had started it sooner. I would love to see how different years of the model X compare.

I have a Silverado EV, do you need one for the range test? It's amazing. 4WT

@davidmenasco5743

4 ай бұрын

Nice. It's nice to hear from someone who has it. It'll be interesting to see how it does on all the standard measures.

Is the poor guy ever gonna get his Model X back?

@Harrythehun

4 ай бұрын

Haha maybe Dave is busy driving around with the hybrids all over the east coast?

@John-209

4 ай бұрын

It seems like Dave is either having a great time or is the nicest guy in the world or possibly both 🤙

@Nate-vf2js

4 ай бұрын

To what sell it

@johndavis7257

4 ай бұрын

Last I heard Dave said he had too many cars now to take it back 😂

@therealbettyswollocks

4 ай бұрын

Not sure I’d label Dave ‘poor’ if he has a X-Plaid as his occasional ride.

I have the same screen bug when i charge my ‘23 Model S. Glad to see i’m not alone. Super weird.

@InternetDude

4 ай бұрын

It’s a Tesla, no surprise

I've been waiting for this video! Thanks Kyle !

My exact car has no rattles or squeaks after 6,000 miles. My build quality is very good.

Seems that the sound proofing isn’t that great as the road noise on the motorway joints are so obvious throughout the video?

Alyssa is quite the trooper. She looks bored probably doesn’t really care about KWs.

@DoubleCTech

4 ай бұрын

She acts like my sisters when I point out an EV on the road or while talking nerdy about EV specs. 😂

@tdpiersonavoca

4 ай бұрын

Her camera work is uninspired too.

@DoubleCTech

4 ай бұрын

@@tdpiersonavoca Her camera work is good. It’s a vlog style video so what do you expect?

@egs2169

4 ай бұрын

She must be hoping to date Kyle again

this is real world test data, love it, man can't wait till i get my ev and experience this, dad's has an nice car

@_nosikeuzoma1456

4 ай бұрын

Yeah why don’t you get one for yourself what’s holding you back?

Loving the TMX content team OoS

For those who haven’t been to Colorado, it’s about half mountains and half Kansas-flat.

I just did a trip of over 3000 miles in my Model X Plaid. Ave was 360 watt hours per mile or about 275 miles per full charge. This was through a mix of cold, rain, high winds and speeds nearing 80 mph most times, mixed with nice conditions as well. Had I not looked at the watt hour usage, I'd have had no clue or care how much energy was used, because the car felt great, felt safe and was SO easy to drive with auto-steer. How many people in big SUV gas hogs actually look at their gas mileage? Very few. Super chargers were super fast by the way.

Do you notice vibrations under heavy accel with this car? They seem to still have the same halfshaft issues they did back in 2015, with no fix.

Thanks for the Model X test. Quick question: have we had a Walter update?

69 degrees! Dang, a hell of a lot warmer up in Northern colorado than down here in Southern Colorado.

Best real world test! Keep them coming!

Would be nice with a comparising sheet to see how it does compared to others, like Bjørn has on the 1.000 km test.

Thank you for the review! I'm about to embark on a trip to Boca Chica for Starship take off that's around 1,200 miles one way, for most long trips I've always used my '22 MS LR and it's truly a joy using FSD but for this trip I have to use my '23 MX since I'll be camping with my little dog. You've convinced me to use MX and load up with camping stuff. Driving around in town or going down to Jacksonville, FL. using I-95, with MX I manage to use average energy 265Wh/mi at 70mph unlike MS LR AE 231Wh/mi.

Anybody have any idea about how much that charging session would have cost?

@Phoen1x883

4 ай бұрын

It varies from charger to charger, based on whatever the local utility company charges. I don't supercharge much, but around $15-$20 for 150 is normal here in the Midwest.

you shoud do a kia niro ev and a leaf plus just so it on record since those will be in the lower side of affordablity range in used evs.

Kyle - has super charger in hand - talking I - PLUG THE CAR IN, KYLE

@pauldesi

4 ай бұрын

He often times will ramble a bit.

@mujjuman

4 ай бұрын

he rambles a LOT @@pauldesi

Is there the same test on a long range?

Seems very loud inside the car.

@Valencia_Media

4 ай бұрын

It's the mic they using... or lack of actually. But even then the X isn't as quiet as I wish it was

How does Model S compare on this test you were saying the X is better road tripper. Love you and your dad’s channels.

I saw that charcuterie and it made me crave some sausage and cheese🤣.

race to vegas when?

Would love to see the results of a MY2024 Volvo XC40 Recharge Twin

Need to do a Model S LR!

Use Scan My Tesla instead of service mode to get SoC, like Bjorn does...

I’m hopeful that on April 1st you’ll upload either the Smart Fortwo or the Chevy Bolt 10% challenge.

@KyleConner

4 ай бұрын

Twizy 10% challenge haha

@Mike.T.

4 ай бұрын

People actually own those cars, not everyone can afford a $100,000 vehicle. I own a Bolt and I love it.

@williamalford5286

4 ай бұрын

@@Mike.T.I own one too and love it, but we all know it’s charging limitations which would make a great April Fools’ Day video.

@Mike.T.

4 ай бұрын

@williamalford5286 I think that it would actually for a very interesting video. That would be an actual real world test. Testing a car that real people can afford.

@sonnyonny4900

4 ай бұрын

​@@Mike.T.Folks with more money are real people. Just more resources.

How much farther would it go at 72 miles per hour?

@lemongavine

4 ай бұрын

Probably a lot. Speed, especially 80MPH has a huge affect on range/efficiency.

@Aztasu

4 ай бұрын

Just check the 70mph range test video for the consumption figure at true 70mph highway speeds and take the amount of kWh recharged from this video and you can estimate the range. At constant 70mph the Model X Plaid took 334Wh/mi. It recharged around 45.6kWh in 15min. If we assume a minimal increase of energy consumption at 72mph to 338Wh/mi (the 80mph consumption is 364Wh/mi btw), then your range should be a max 135 miles. Not that great actually

I think a Model S LR with the 19" tempest wheels would probably be pretty close to the Taycan.

Does this Plaid have the same vibration as my Model S Plaid? Shudder between 30-40mph

@brianackland4813

4 ай бұрын

I have the same high frequency vibrations in my 23 MSP. The service center keeps telling me software updates will fix but it doesn’t. Frustrating but glad to see this is a common issue not just isolated to me. Doesn’t help, but make me realize I’m getting gas lit by Tesla.

@benzo5799

4 ай бұрын

@@brianackland4813my dads model S Plaid has the same issues. We tested a little and it turns out the vibrations only happen in the first couple of minutes especially on low speed drives at the said 40-60 mph. My best guess is a too high viscosity drivetrain lubricant coupled with some resonance in the gearbox-housing that just happens to be at these speeds. That would explain why its getting less and less while driving 😄

@brianackland4813

4 ай бұрын

@@benzo5799 thank you very much for this reply. What you’re experiencing is EXACTLY the same thing and yes improves after a little bit of driving. If you discover a solution or fix please let me know.

@shadowmite_0xC0FFEDAD

4 ай бұрын

I feel the same in my 23 MXP between 40 and 50. Only near the start of a drive.

@BobMarley-te4dx

4 ай бұрын

Yup, mine is at the start of drives too. Basically cold start. Super annoying

I was looking for a warm weather X Plaid range test; So you covered 120 miles with 48% of the battery. Isn't that kind of a weak result, 250 miles on a charge in summer at 80? I mean at 70, the X Plaid went 286 miles in 42 degree weather

@SpottedSharks

3 күн бұрын

They drove 80 mph, not 70. Speed makes a huge difference.

When are the owners of MX’s going to file a class action lawsuit against Tesla for terrible front-end suspension design & a lifetime warranty on suspension? I’ve spent thousands of dollars on out-of-warranty suspension work.

A winter race to Vegas would have been awesome to watch.

Any plans to do the 10% challenge with the Model S? Either standard or plaid.

On it's face this seems like a reasonable research design except for the variability of charge sessions... Am I wrong about this?

How's the sprinter van doing Kyle?.

I have a 2023 X and have never had an issue with auto doors or falcon wings around town. You might want to get the falcon sensors checked out. Quite a slam on the X around town driving.

Appreciate this video, thank you. It’ll hopefully help a ton as I just received my red ‘24 Model X (not Plaid) that included the $7500 tax rebate :). Again, thank you.

29:19 While I don't personally travel in this way in an EV (I prefer fewer but longer, more productive stops, and no more than 3 to 4 stops in a 500 to 700 mile drive), I would say that my baseline acceptability would be 1 hour to 1.5 hours of driving between stops. I'm rarely on roads that allow 80 mph, though, so for me, that's about 120 to 130 miles minimum between stops.

How did you come up with 80 mph? Almost half of the states have a 70mph limit? Only 4 or 5 states are 80mph.

@BigBen621

4 ай бұрын

But most people drive 80 MPH when the speed limit is 70 MPH, so 80 MPH represents real world highway cruising conditions.

@riceball777

4 ай бұрын

the vast majority of cars road tripping cruz at at least 80mph even at 80mph i'm getting passed like crazy and run off the road when i go from los angeles to las vegas. Realistically traffic more at like 85mph when road tripping in the middle of no where.

At 12:07 you said you are using J3400 NACs, but you aren’t. You are just using the typical Tesla charging standard with its CAN communications. People incorrectly are calling the Tesla Standard as NACs (J3400). Tesla’s At Superchargers still use the old protocol even at V3 or V4 superchargers. Heck even if you use a Magic Dock with a CCS adapter you will still use the old Tesla CAN Protocol. It would be great if you addressed this in a podcast. J3400/NACs is more and different from just the connector.

Please test BMW i4 40 in this test. Thanks.

Still torn between this or an R1S

I'd like to see some towing plumbers normally loaded there trucks up with all there stuff which normally weighs around 1400 lbs so could a plumber toe a box trailer with your dad's Tesla and what would that be say if thay did an average of 100 miles a day

When does dad get his car back? I have told your dad I am very interested in buying the volt. But I think he is waiting to get his car back.

I completely agree with your take on the X. There's just something about the X that I don't love. I've driven the S, 3, X, and I own a Y. I prefer the Y out of all of them. If I had to rank them in order of how much I like the cars, I'd say Y, 3, S, X, in that order.

That was pretty noisy on the way back. I would have thought the X would be quieter than that by now.

Great review Kyle and Alyssa

Just asking: Why do you assume that drivers violate the speed limit to this degree? Do you have hard survey data to back that? Now, I understand that there are states with higher speed limits (think Kansas toll roads). That's different. Just asking.

@steinwaymodelb

4 ай бұрын

80 is the speed limit on many western highways, 75 is a widespread speed limit, not just in the west, and 5 over is an extremely common 'safe margin' almost everywhere. If you're in California you're not really 'speeding' until you're pushing 90 on some highways.

@terrymattingly6843

4 ай бұрын

@@steinwaymodelb Yes. I drive in the West to visit family and I said that. But I live in 70 mph region, so I asked.

@bdtang

4 ай бұрын

It’s 80mph on the Ohio toll way.

@terrymattingly6843

4 ай бұрын

@@bdtang You saw my reference to Kansas and the West?

@riceball777

4 ай бұрын

Here in CA the speed limit for road trip when out of the city area is 70mph. the vast majority of cars road tripping cruz at at least 80mph even at 80mph i'm getting passed like crazy and run off the road when i go from los angeles to las vegas. Realistically traffic more at like 85mph when road tripping in the middle of no where.

You keep saying it is a typical road trip set up but is it typical to drive 15mph over the legal limit? How would driving the legal speed affect the range?

@danvarughese

6 күн бұрын

slower speed = greater efficiency = more range

@SpottedSharks

3 күн бұрын

I usually drive 5-10 mph over to a max of 85. 70 mph is absurdly slow.

You really should try and get your hands the new NIO ET7 150kwh in Europe. I bet all of us would love to know if it is true or false. Pull some strings!!!

Could you provide kilometer conversions in future Videos?

@KyleConner

4 ай бұрын

When I have time I’ll make sure I do!

Alyssa is so bored she's probably planning a road trip in her mind while Kyle talks KWs!

It’s interesting that all Teslas (except ones with 4680 battery) charge to about the same percent in this test, regardless of model, battery size, and battery chemistry. Model Y Long Range, Model 3 RWD LFP, and now Model X Plaid all got to 58-60% after 15 minutes. That can’t be coincidence, right? Seems like Tesla must have a design goal of adding 50% in 15 minutes, and they adjust the curve of each to hit that goal. But I guess they weren’t able to do it with 4680 batteries in CyberTruck.

Waiting for model x trip videos

Kyle’s dad seems well pissed off he can’t get his car back !

"Dude, Where's My Car?" - Out of Spec Dave :) LOL you've had his car for a long long long time - POOR DAVE :(

Do you get a vibration at light throttle 40 to 52mph i have the same car same color its driving me nuts. Tesla has been unhelpful

My TX Dec 14th Model Y has zero rattles... *shrug* ... I guess it's hit or miss

@GraysonCarr

4 ай бұрын

Better knock on wood. Mine didn’t have any rattles at first either. I think most modern Teslas don’t have any at first, but they start to come after 6 months to a year, unless you’re lucky.

@Radium3D

4 ай бұрын

@@GraysonCarr I mean my 3 did but it was a 2019, I am a pro at tearing off panels lol. Felt tape is our friend

Afternoon

Kyle, it's time to give dad his car back!

sounds like a concrete road at the beginning.

The vids are always informative but I really like the banter...

Started test with AC at 70, ended at 68. Need better consistency Kyle.

It looks like I - 10 in Arizona lol

My wife and I have done five trips, each over 5k miles out west in our Xs, along with six, 1500 mile trips to Florida. Greatest road trip car in history! Add in FSD, and I will never road trip in any other car.

@frank888882001

4 ай бұрын

We did a 1500-mile road trip from Dallas TX to Long Beach CA last summer with a 2023 Model X plaid full of people and luggage. 0 issue and no range anxiety. Grate Tesla product!

@jon1913

4 ай бұрын

What year is your X? I want a used 2022+ but they are $20k more than 2020s. I feel like the 2020s are overall 85% as good as the 22+ but that 15% improvement is enticing. Do you think the increased efficiency, heat pump, display, rear display, sound isolation etc. is with the added cost?

@andyfeimsternfei8408

4 ай бұрын

@jon1913 I had a 2018 P100D, but it was totaled in 2021. I replaced it with a 2022 Plaid. Overall, it is better, but I hate the 6 seat configuration. I would love to have a 5 seater again. I would rather have the long range, but I ordered the Plaid because I thought I would get it faster, but the opposite turned out to be true. Regardless, I love any X!

Kum and Go! To funny

Kyle, any chance we can get a 10% challenge with an F-150 Lightning Extended Range? Ford has that unique "boost" charging curve and I'm curious to see how it would do.

Shoutout the only supercharger in Brighton!!! LOL

We all knew that, but most of us can't afford it!

Love our X Plaid (in blue). The falcon wing doors are great for kiddo and dogs.

Thanks, Kyle. It's a good thing you don't prefer the X. With how much you drive, you'd be buying a new set of tires every week. I kid, I kid... Or do I? 😀

21:18 ❤🤍💙

I am so interested to see new Macan 4 in this test!!

I haven't seen anyone address dirty cameras and Tesla performance. I live out in the country and drive on a lot of dirt roads. What happens when your Tesla cameras get covered in dust. My truck backup camera hardly ever has a clear view because it's covered in dust. I wouldn't want to have to clean multiple cameras multiple times a day for the car to work properly.

@SpottedSharks

4 ай бұрын

Check out the Dirty Tesla channel. He lives on a dirt road in Michigan. His cars are usually filthy in his vides.

I have 37k miles on my Plaid and it has no rattles.

Now that the latest update takes care of the doors issue constantly complained about in any video with Alyssa or Brandon with the yoke, now why wouldn’t the X be a good choice? The X is just the best Tesla overall hands down all things considered.

My best ever in my 2022 MXP on my 260 mile round trip commute to and from work was 268 wh/mile with no wind, 65 mph, and 70F. Typical, though, was 285 to 295 in the summer at 70 mph and 310 wh/mile in the winter when it's 35 to 50F. The 375ish wh/mile for the drive you did tells me that the alignment really needs to be checked. It should do much better than that.

@Williamxmr

4 ай бұрын

65 and 70 wayy different than 80

This is the test I've been waiting for. Next, please do one with the Model S.

I wonder if a true version 4 Supercharger will give the X a better charging curve, something to look for!

Alyssa is the cool one.... Ty for the video guys.

Did you know you can only go 7mph in service mode? Ask me how I know. LOL

Just remember this is a comparison test for cars at your elevation. At your elevation the car should have significantly more range than at sea level. Great test BTW it is impressive that the X has similar Wh/mi to the Y. My 2018 Model 3P has similar lifetime Wh/mi to my wife's 2020 MY.

@SpottedSharks

4 ай бұрын

I did the same test with an X last August in Florida and got 119 miles. I'm sure the 5000' difference in elevation makes a difference, but I don't think I'd call it a significant difference.

@jamesbruce1183

4 ай бұрын

That's unexpected and surprising to me.

@SpottedSharks

4 ай бұрын

@@jamesbruce1183 My run was about 25 degrees F warmer than Kyle's. Maybe the less dense warmer air offset the elevation difference.

can someone TLDW this?

using telsa to travel long distance is not that hard....Kyle should test it with his rivian.... more test on that please

Didn’t one of your staff crash your Plaid Kyle? Maybe caused the unwanted noises.

I'm going from a Model S to an X. I want the more room and comfort. The Model S while a fun car to drive is low to the ground and more cramp inside. I'm older than you, and it's a lot easier to get into an X than S. I'm looking forward to being more comfortable on my long road trips.

@InternetDude

4 ай бұрын

Good luck at the service department LOL

@lesalbro8880

4 ай бұрын

@@InternetDude They already have a Tesla though. Would this involve a different service department or something?

@xwpfan2

4 ай бұрын

@@InternetDude Never had an issue with the Service department. Good luck your service department...wait...I don't care. Have a good life.

@InternetDude

4 ай бұрын

the X will have a lot more problems than your S, this is well known@@xwpfan2

@InternetDude

4 ай бұрын

The X doors are much more problematic than S@@lesalbro8880

Until the tires wear out in 15k miles and cost thousands😃

@SpottedSharks

4 ай бұрын

Mine are at 15k now with lots of wear left.

Did electric cars just figure a nice way to say some passengers are overweight!?!?😂

80mph is more realistic? That's a GUARANTEED $400 ticket in California. Just finished a 340mile road trip and 68mph was very comfortable and fantastic on the range.

@gelu88

4 ай бұрын

In the northeast 75 is a average speed, so this is a good worst case scenario to be aware of

@ChuiStrong

4 ай бұрын

80mph is doable in CA so long as traffic is going that speed. If you're going 80mph while everyone is doing 65 or 70, well, that's a ticket for sure.

@loriallen67

4 ай бұрын

In Texas, the speed limit is 80.

@jon1913

4 ай бұрын

I'm in Illinois and the doors limit is 70 so a lot of people go 80+. That said, when I road trip in my Bolt I cruise at 65 in the right lane... unless I'm in Chicago where it's unsafe to drive that slow.

@riceball777

4 ай бұрын

Here in CA the speed limit out side of the busy cities is 70mph the vast majority of cars road tripping cruz at at least 80mph even at 80mph i'm getting passed like crazy and run off the road when i go from los angeles to las vegas. Realistically traffic on road trips moves at like 85mph when road tripping in the middle of no where.

Love this vid, and Plaid is gorgeous but that wheel is lame trash.

Love this test, the 1860 batteries still kick ass. We are 71 and when we travel I set our speed off-set to "5 OVER" posted as my MAX highway speed. On our 2022 MYP if I get much past 300 whm I start freaking out. My lifetime average at 16K miles with 6 LONG road trips equalling half of my miles is 276 wh/mi. But we did dump the 21" UT for some 18" from TSportLine. They made a HUGE difference in efficiency and ride comfort

I could have used this in October when I was deciding between MYP and MX. I ordered an X but ended up going with the MYP for almost the exact reasons you stated. Didn’t want to mess with the doors, and a majority of the time it’s just me in this vehicle and the MYP is just easier as a daily driver. I just wish it had the same charging curve as the X. On road trips I would love the bigger battery and better charging, but 90% of driving the MYP was the correct choice. This video would have made my decision easier, but at least I came to the right conclusion. Thanks for all the great content!

Bathroom stop test .

Ambient temperature makes such a huge difference for these tests even with a heat pump. Would love to get winter/summer numbers for the 10% challenge.

His dad has already sold it.... 😉

Tesla needs to worry more about quality and less about gimmicks and gadgets.