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I have driven both cars many times, I'd go with the Polestars ride and quality.

@MuitoDaora

2 жыл бұрын

I would too. But I also suspect that the battery degradation will hit hard compared to the Model 3.

@s13dad82

2 жыл бұрын

@@MuitoDaora I am not really worried about the battery as I am only leasing it and I drive less than a 100 miles a day. We have Tesla's here and they break all the time so battery life is of no use.

@bertiewooster3326

2 жыл бұрын

@@s13dad82 I have a diesel it does 70miles mpg it was cheap to buy and cheap to run and is already 5 years old ! Nah no EV for me.

@s13dad82

2 жыл бұрын

@@bertiewooster3326 Hi Bertie, diesel is getting expensive these days, I bought the Polestar 2 because of the free charging and no maintenance cost. I gave up my mercedes diesel bluetec years ago because they are expensive to maintain and very problematic.

@bertiewooster3326

2 жыл бұрын

@@s13dad82 Well your lifestyle is in the slow lane ! I went from Lo don to Bolton to see my aged aunt on Sunday filled tank up drove there and back saw her for 1 hour over 500 mls there and back no need to fill up or hang around waiting for charge still had enough in the tank for a week's commuting EV are not for me they are restrictive and too expensive ,I 'll keep my cheap long range diesel!

Still have the Polestar for everyday driving without a doubt

@minso8164

2 жыл бұрын

I'd miss autopilot and the charging network. And Netflix and games and stuff.

@minso8164

2 жыл бұрын

and range

I bet 100 bucks the guy didn't even set the Ohlins dampers to the Polestar track settings. He probably did this race in the regular driving setting.

@Dot_Dom

Жыл бұрын

The 'guy' is only an ex F1 driver so yeah he probably didn't realise 🤣

Polestar with ohlins in track setting plus Performance upgrade to 476hp smokes M3.

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

Link? The Volvo had the performance/ brake packs and the M3 *LR* smoked it.

@rikh8796

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 the default pack settings are for comfort. So initially only the brakes are better. Having the pack installed means shit until the dampers are properly tuned for the track.

Maybe if I was young again I would value speed over anything else. Polestar 2 overall is the superior car to me.

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

If you're short. I wouldn't fit

For only half a second, i would take the Polestar 2.

@birdyashiro1226

2 жыл бұрын

+1

@evolv.e

2 жыл бұрын

I would buy the Tesla for its vastly superior charging network and how quickly and easily it can be recharged. Ride quality can be upgraded via teslacorsa for a nominal price. Upgrading a charging network or speed of charging on the Volvo is multitudes more expensive.

@stockey

2 жыл бұрын

@@evolv.e Forget Tesla, shitty build quality, hundreds of recalls.

@evolv.e

2 жыл бұрын

@@stockey lol haters gonna hate

@bigboibenz

Жыл бұрын

​@@evolv.eMostly people fed up of being smoked at traffic lights 😂

Did you see Polestar 2 just released OTA power upgrade? This video definitely deserves a "part 2" with the power upgraded!

@knight2386

2 жыл бұрын

Very cool. How much extra power did it get?

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

did you see TESLA announced its CARBON CERAMIC Brake kit for $20,000.

@kittgs

2 жыл бұрын

@@knight2386 67bhp and 20Nm (you currently have to own the car and pay €1k for it though)

@knight2386

2 жыл бұрын

@@kittgs thanks for the reply! If I could get that additional power out of my Tesla for that price, I'd jump right on it

@raydoherty5419

2 жыл бұрын

This is a model 3 long range which also has an acceleration boost option adding about 60hp.

The Polestar looks like a handsome devil compared to the Tesla.

There are moments when I simply fail to understand 5th Gear: they're comparing luxury family EVs by track times and hot hatchbacks by how much ikea carpentry you can shove into their trunk.

@karstenpedersen7749

2 жыл бұрын

See this a lot. Family cars and crossover are rated entirely on how sporty the drive is. Heard of kids? My son will toss the soup immediately with this kind of driving.

@RikHeijmen

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. This is really not helpful. Please decide if you want to be a Top Gear or an informative car channel. At this point, you're neither.

I term of daily drive not racing for speed king on the road, Volvo clearly better utilization.

Polestar have the performance upgrade to 476hp now for 1000$

@larss3903

2 жыл бұрын

And so do tesla

I do get the complaints about this type of review for these types of car, but everyone else has done a practicality comparison. Not every youtube channel has a former F1 pilot and a track to put these around. If you want to see which one has more cupholders, there's about 5 million other reviews to watch.

If you want a Polestar 2 with better performance, don't get the performance pack! ;) The 20" wheels makes it slower. The brakes are better so might gain some there, but if you want performance you can spend the money on the 68hp upgrade instead. Thats about 1000€ and is done via OTA. Of course you can get both the performance pack and the upgrade if you like... :p

Worth mentioning is the power boost available for the polestar bringing it on par with the tesla. Also the brakes and suspension is superior on the polestar. however by the looks of it, the car in the video is not tuned for race track. It seems to be tuned for comfort.

@larss3903

2 жыл бұрын

Until you buy the performance boost for the model 3, which again will make it winner. Or you could buy the performance version of the model 3.

@yarpen9016

2 жыл бұрын

@@larss3903 does the tesla performance boost fix the poor brakes and cheap suspension?

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

@@yarpen9016 You didn't watch the review? "Turns in beautifully" "Super positive in slow speed corners" "Nice to drive" Compared to "In spite of these options (£5k brakes, performance pack😂) it doesn't feel as quick" "A lot of understeer" "It may also corner a bit reluctantly" "Not as nimble, not as agile" "I want to go there...not there!!" ... What do you mean "not tuned for the track"? It had the kits fitted! You seem confused.

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

@@yarpen9016 It took 5 grand to "fix" that on the Volvo.... Still slow.

@rikh8796

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 having the kit fitted doesn’t mean the dampers were tuned for the track. Default settings are for comfort.

Set the dampers up properly and add the OTA update and then re run the test...

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the fact you have to "set the dampers up properly" make a point? 95% will never have that done.

Yeah, but the Polestar much less ugly... Especially the interior.

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares when you even can compete?

@nonconsensualopinion

2 жыл бұрын

Polestar interior is terrible. Looks like a Prius

@shujii_s

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonconsensualopinion and the Tesla interior looks like something an undergraduate computer science class came up with. What's your point?

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

BEAUTY is Subjective and DOES NOT make the car FASTER.

@shujii_s

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 Sure, and whether you care more about a couple hundredths of a second around a track, or aesthetics you find personally pleasing is also a subjective decision.

Polestar is a Volvo so no comparison. I chose quality, safety and luxury.

@jamieburks848

11 ай бұрын

I take it you have not looked at the NCAP score for the Model 3?!

When is Petrol Fifth Gear coming back?

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

oh boy, that ICE thing is going to be a thing of the past

If you really want speed you can spend €1k and get the Polestar2 dual motor an extra 67bhp and 20Nm - all delivered over the air. Off the track sub 5 second 0-60 is plenty fast enough for me. Both great cars.

@richardcorns8553

2 жыл бұрын

Or get performance boost upgrade for Model 3 LR £ 1,500 over the air up date brings 0 to 60 down to 3.7 seconds.

@DPR1985

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardcorns8553 damn straight:P

@richardcorns8553

2 жыл бұрын

@@DPR1985 True 👍

Hmm maybe it's the new updates but I have a Polestar 2 dual motor and I've driven my friend's Model 3 dular motor long range and the Polestar 2 is definitely punchier when you press down on the acceleration

@ConstantGeekery

Жыл бұрын

That’ll be the additional torque - way more important in the real world than BHP.

ride quality would mean more to me but you cant beat Teslas battery and charging network Great to see two very good EV`s

@poplaurentiu4148

2 жыл бұрын

Well Elon mentioned that from next year (2022) he will allow other brands to use the Tesla supercharging network infrastructure (if those vehicles are build to accept the charging socket and cars electronics software & electrical components can accept higher currents).. Now i would like to say that since Polstar did some up-dates for Polstar 2 (which consist in 0-60 in 4,2 and bigger better batteries). So, imo the build quality is far better on Polestar same with the outside look (subjectively at least to me the Tesla 3 looks like a bloated-fish even i-Pace looks better) and also this is a very important aspect since the owning is stressful enough presently without warehouses lots of delays for components, semi-conductors & spare-parts so, i feel like Polstar & Jaguar can fill that gap very easy thru they dealers, Polstar -Volvo & Jaguar that is why i think Polestar 2 or i-Pace are much better overall specially in Europe.. Hopefully the new super-capacitors with aluminum, graphene and Na-sulphur mixtures in the cells cores will be produced sooner for ev's to improve the present battery specs to charge faster, last longer between charges and discharge slower..

@LafemmebearMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Update. Atleast state side you just need an adapter for a non Tesla ev to charge on the super chargers.

@s13dad82

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean you can't beat Tesla's battery? Their battery is worst than all the EV's I have owned. My model S could not even go further than 120 miles.It is worst than a Nissan Leaf.

@roodick85

2 жыл бұрын

Lol in my area there's a ton more regular chargers than Tesla chargers. Even level 2 chargers are filled with Teslas

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

@@poplaurentiu4148 You really have no clue about EVs.

Didn't they just upgrade the HP in the Polestar with an over the air update with more HP?

@mustrumridcully3853

2 жыл бұрын

Did they update the range too? Because it's rubbish otherwise.

I wish the testers would get off the track and go out in the real world to review eg driving in traffic etc Speed is irrelevant due to speed limits

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

even in CITY mode, the TESLA wins hands down in RANGE, EFFICIENCY , Highway PERFORMANCE , and more.

@Poppillon

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 Mark here is a Tesla salesman... I like your cars Mark but I just find them a bit unattractive. Like an inflated puffer fish with a jet engine

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@Poppillon - beauty is ONLY skin deep, TESLA has Superior HANDELING and PERFORMANCE where it counts. In my PLAID , I can even SMOKE the MOST TUNED Durrango HELLCAT. and Reguarlly do 8.9sec , some tracks even BAN me, because i'm too FAST and dont Decelerate enough. (no Parachute, no Roll Cage).

@Poppillon

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 where it counts for you maybe... plenty of people prefer the driving experience of the P2 over the tesla... and then there's the build quality... it'll come down to what people value I guess

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@Poppillon - Actually, since 2020 Raven , TESLA has made a Step change in Build QUALITY in ALL of the Tesla model S/X 2021 models. Improved NVH & Build Quality , Improved Suspension & NOISE Reduction (ACTIVE). REDUCED Factory Defect & Repair Issues. Increced LONGEVITY of Parts.

Eh, that's a Model 3 long range, also your specs for the Model 3 aren't correct, come on fifth gear it's not much to ask for some competence.

@cuprashoe

2 жыл бұрын

I also wouldn't have minded seeing how they both compare on everyday road driving, because I can't really see many people using either on track

nice. what about build quality etc.

TM3 maybe faster on the track. But you will be choosing the P2 to drive home.

On pure looks and interior, the Polestar 2 would be my choice. I still dislike the Model 3's _minimalist, no instrument binnacle_ in front of the driver looks. That aside. I can't afford either 8-((...

Who is better at after sales service.

Did you adjust the Polestar suspension set to track mode?

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

They are waiting for the OTA update.

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

POLESTAR 2 is a SHITTY car from CHINA, thats all you NEED to know.

@danishviking6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 racist!

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@danishviking6254 - NOPE, not an ANALYST. I can also predict the future. VOLVO/Polestar will FAIL as BRAND & as SPAC.

@danishviking6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 racist

Things that should be kept in mind when looking at EV’s, size of charging network where you live and dealer network as well as part availability. I would also go as far as saying financing options should you buy or lease these pieces of tech particularly now when the advancements are coming fast and furious.

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

POLESTAR 2 cant even DC FAST charge at 250 kwh, thats something to THINK about.

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

"dealer network and parts availability"? Stealth FUD? Really? How about doorstep service, plus no "stealership" to tweak the price?

@rikh8796

Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 oh no the horror! Having another 5 minutes to take a piss on my maybe twice a year vacation trip 😱 The fast charging is fine. Faster would be nice, but ‘only’ 150 kWh is not a deal breaker.

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

@@rikh8796 - TESLA is building NEW 325 kw DC fast chargers & upgrading V3 to 325kw as well.

Polestar every time! 🥰

@chichora123

2 жыл бұрын

I don't want a China company

@danishviking6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@chichora123 Geely is one of china’s independent companies just so you know it. NOT CCP. Don’t hate whole populations because that equals racism.

@chichora123

2 жыл бұрын

@@danishviking6254 Are you crazy? This is about our own livelihood. You don't want us to have even a single job. You want China to take over every single job from the rest of the world?

@lex_uss

2 жыл бұрын

@@chichora123 It's not a chinese copy. It's made by volvo...bruh

Ran the Reg, and as suspected this is not even a model three performance. This car definitely doesn’t have the 476 brake horsepower equivalent that the performance does, you would really hope that a channel such as 5th Gear would’ve at least known what car they had!

@karsonmccarthy7274

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. This is the long range car not the performance. I have the exact car that was tested and am glad to know it’s still that fast

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

Long Range has about 440hp, with boost about 498hp

@francom2052

2 жыл бұрын

@@romansenger2322 I’m afraid you’re wrong on that one. The Dual Motor long range in the video comes with 363bhp and 394lb ft on torque. The model 3 performance that was not in this video has 480bhp and 487lb ft of torque. What a shame even Fifth Gear can’t get their facts right. If they had used the actual model three performance and not the long range, it would’ve been a totally different race, the performance would’ve disappeared.

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

@@francom2052 agree as you want - OR go to Tesla website and see yourself. Its written there. Also, some owners did readings straight from OBD comfirming those power figures. Curious which sources you can name for your numbers that will trump Tesla themselves.

@francom2052

2 жыл бұрын

@@romansenger2322 Roman, certainly not looking for an argument. All I am saying is that the car in the video is as a Model 3 Long Range and not a Model 3 Performance. If you’re saying that the Model 3 Long Range makes with boost download makes 498bhp, then I am curious how much power you are suggesting that Model 3 Performance makes? Closer to 600bhp perhaps? What do your sources tell you about the power output of the Model 3 Performance, that is much faster that the Long Range even after the Long Range has had the speed boost download? Tesla quote 480bhp for the Performance but if you’re saying the slower long range has 498bhp I would love to know how much you think the faster performance model makes. Hurry back with a reply please, I can’t wait to hear. ❤️

The reviewer was an F1 driver btw

Surely on cars such as these the more important issues are ride and quality

It’s important to note that the new Model 3 with LFP is slower/ heavier than 2021 models.

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

Its important to note, that Model 3 with LFP has nothing to do with model year per se. Its the go to battery for the Base Model, previously known as Standard Range Plus. Tesla implemented this battery back in late 2020 and is doing so for 2021 and 2022. The shown vehicle was a Long Range and has an NMC Battery.

If this is a track comparison, shouldn’t they evaluate the cars after multiple hot laps? It would be important to know which car is better at managing battery heat on a track day. An overheated battery equals decreased performance and hours of wasted downtime.

Times have changed since this video - this is now the equivalent of the mid-spec Tesla (long range std) v the top spec Polestar 2. In Australia at least like for like (top spec Polestar 2 with all packs) v long range with performance wheels - the Polestar ($103k) is $24k more expensive than the long range dual motor ($79k)which is still quicker, has a much longer range and access to a better charger network. The top spec Polestar is more expensive than a Model 3 performance (which is another step up again 0-62 3.3 sec) which is $96k drive away. It's just not a competitive offer.

So what does a GTI or I30 do around there in comparison for how much less money?

@steveberridge4648

2 жыл бұрын

i30 did 46.8 secs around that track driven by steve sutcliffe

Looked like a model 3 long range… so not even the performance version of the model 3…

@karlfranks35

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely a long range

@garethkavanaghdixon7479

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think the long range has 476bhp either, more like 376

@tamtdc

2 жыл бұрын

@@garethkavanaghdixon7479 it's strange no idea what the real output is, the v5c lists power output of an LR at 361kw. Covert that to bhp gives you 484.. The LR is quick with a fully charged and hot battery, not sure my bum dyno says its 484 though. I suspect that the car itself has the battery and motors to do 484bhp, thus v5c lists it.. I E its the same hardware underneath as the same performance, hower I guess tesla software restricts max motor power to make it slower therefore probably around 370bhp ish. This is also why they can do the performance boost to increase acceleration by just altering the software to allow more power from the motors.

@Yachtzeee

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I was thinking the same thing.

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

Model 3 PERFORMANCE would SMOKE the Polestar 2.

So although you said at the start that the Tesla was £4k more than the Polestar, it actually turns out it's £800 cheaper than the Polestar, later on in the video...

LG vs Samsung washing machine...

if you installed the new Polestar software performance upgrade, I am sure things would be quite different

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

NOPE, the TESLA model 3 PERFORMANCE would still SMOKE it.

@idklol3602

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 duh. The video doesn’t compare against a model 3 performance

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@idklol3602 - I know that, but IF you are comparing similar TRIM levels , then it's ONLY FAIR to compare PERFORMANCE model 3 , to Update Polestar 2 w/ Max package as well. TESLA M3P still wins, on RANGE, SPEED, PERFORMANCE.

@idklol3602

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 apple to oranges

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@idklol3602 - Agree, TESLA mod 3P still OUTCLASSES the Polestar 2 MAX upgrade.

I really hope they put the suspension on the polestar in performance mode since its manually adjustable

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

wont make a DIFFERENCE , Tesla has SUPERIOR Engineering , and RIDE Handling thats BETTER than a BMW M Series.

@Poppillon

2 жыл бұрын

​@@markplott4820 Mark the Tesla sales rep at it again 😂

Still prefer the polestar !

@poplaurentiu4148

2 жыл бұрын

From all full electric cars i really like the full ev cross-overs : Polestar-2 & Jaguar i-Pace, (small hatch ev : Hyundai ioniq 5 and latest KIA EV6).. From American market i like only the full electric SUV & Pick-ups like : Rivian (R1T & R1S) and GMC Hummer EV.. ;0)

All that power means you get to Tesco 3 seconds sooner.

@danishviking6254

2 жыл бұрын

Best comment 👌🏼

@bertiewooster3326

2 жыл бұрын

Or heaven !

Polestar 2 just got an increase of 67 HP via OTA update..

@poplaurentiu4148

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly +the suspension setting for track might help to improve the Polestar 2 time as well.. ;0)

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

Then why not using the performance model 3?

@777Outrigger

2 жыл бұрын

@@xavierStark84 Model 3 Performance is a tough customer. But so is the P2 with the upgrade. And there are other reasons to buy a car than just insane performance. Just great performance is good enough for me. :-)

@poplaurentiu4148

2 жыл бұрын

@@xavierStark84 Because Tesla performance Model 3 (at least in Europe) is jumping higher in overall price closer to 60.000 euro without any benefit or any cut-off in purchasing price, bonus, govern grants reduction.. So, instead of performance model 3 maybe add the underdog: X-Peng P7 performance which is costing for about same ball-park money (~45.000 euro) with the ev models presented in this clip above that also bennefit of small overall cut-off price reduction thru govern grants for getting a new green car (which is valid in Europe not sure if also elsewhere).. ;0)

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

@@poplaurentiu4148 you didn't get the joke? In talking about prices too.

How many laps on a charge?

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

Enough to left behind a Taycan on a REAL RACE.

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@xavierStark84 NO TAYCAN has EVER WON Pikes Peak, 3 Tesla Model 3 competed in 2020. Blake Fuller won in the STOCK Class.

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

since nobody really gave you an answer, here is mine: a Model 3 Performance beeing driven hard on the nurburgring with regen fully on will consume about 30% per lap. On the Hockenheimring you can do a full stint of 30min withouth worrying about charging. The bottleneck will be Thermal Throtteling anyway.

@davidharrison9732

2 жыл бұрын

@@romansenger2322 that’s informative thank you

Polestar is going public. $GGPI. Looking forward to see how Polestar will utilize equity to compete in the market. Hopefully the competition will drive further innovation and reduce costs.

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

GPPI to $0, its BULLSHIT. only TSLA is the next TSLA.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

Not of these brands unless Tesla comes out with a less expensive car. This is Polestar's least expensive car but the one-motor version is the least expensive. The next Polestar coming out, the 3, will start around $75,000 US. Polestar is a premium brand.

1:20 Oops! That little visual effect didn't quite work out. It's not quite matching in terms of colour and light.

Lol oxymoron...Tesla and luxury should not be in the same sentence. It's built like a 2002 Ford Focus

Good ev content

Not gonna debate which one is "faster". However, it's dumb as hell to judge it by going through a lap. There are variables such as driver skills, track advantage and etc...

Well first that was an old US built Model 3 Long range. The Model 3 Performance has 515bhp as dynoed in various videos on KZread. Second, to anyone who is still banging on about build quality, the Chinese Model 3s are up there with anyone, and when the German Gigafactory ramps up this will finally become the old-news it already is. But mainly efficiency. The Tesla has the same or smaller battery and has significantly more range. Because of the vertical integration and the fact all controllers and software run on a single bank of processors, and not a load of disparate modules (anyone else) the Tesla can easily manage 255Wh per mile. Add in over the air updates, and superchargers and the Polestar just becomes adequate.

@thelifeofbatteries2603

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely but the haters like living in the past

"Fresh off the boat from Sweden." Is that in China?

@Kraven83

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@AndreFarrar

2 жыл бұрын

What's this hang up about China? Who cares?

@venti4268

2 жыл бұрын

The Tesla shown is made in china btw

@Kraven83

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreFarrar it's simply a correct statement versus an incorrect one. Truth still matters.

@AndreFarrar

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kraven83 Maybe this particular comment was meant solely to be a corrective statement. But, I see people on Twitter, Reddit, and other KZread videos constantly complaining about how Geely is a Chinese company.

Why not use the model 3 performance for this test?

@SDK2006b

2 жыл бұрын

Probably because it's £13k more expensive than the Polestar being tested

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

@@SDK2006b I'm not sure about that.

@SDK2006b

2 жыл бұрын

@@xavierStark84 - The Tesla M3 Performance costs £60k, the Polestar 2 Long Range Dual Motor is £46k, so that’s £14k more for the Tesla

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@SDK2006b - ONLY IN EUROPE, in the USA and China DOMESTIC its Actually CHEAPER . when GIGABERLIN opens the Model Y PERFORMANCE will be CHEAPER than the MIC model Y.

@cuprashoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 so what? The test is done in Britain

It's the Tesla model 3 his using is the Performance with track mode 🙈.

@jefflee1189

2 жыл бұрын

all teslas have track mode. i guess youre going to say the polestar is better than the tesla because the crapstar doesnt have a track mode? and the 3 isnt the performance series

@vasileioscharisopoulos3147

2 жыл бұрын

@@jefflee1189 Only the performance has track mode ... and unfortunately they are not comparing the performance model here... I can only assume because the price difference would have been massive then (Tesla Model 3 Performance is over £60k)

@cooldudept

2 жыл бұрын

@@jefflee1189 that's incorrect. Only Model 3 Performance has it. Not the Long Range or any other variants. Same hold true for Model X, S and Y - no Track mode on any version of those whatsoever. Source: I have a Tesla Rental car company.

@cooldudept

2 жыл бұрын

@@vasileioscharisopoulos3147 yeah I think their reasoning was price equivalence. They mention it several times and in the end, the "if you have 50k to spend" thing.

@vasileioscharisopoulos3147

2 жыл бұрын

@@cooldudept I agree I have the performance model 3 but was I bought it, it was £49 including the grant. However since then the prices shot up again and again. I do like the polestar 2 however when it comes to charging I cannot concider anything else as there are not enough chargers to use the car as work tool.

Great review, I'm going to buy them both 👍

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

Top man!

Low Nm compared to Hp.

That's just the long range Model 3 you got there and not the performance version that is much faster and comes with track mode and it still beats the top of the line Polestar 2 with performance upgrade. Now I'm wondering how the slowest Model 3 standard range plus with rear wheel drive would do against the top of the line Polestar 2..

@AW-gj4ji

2 жыл бұрын

Only problem with that statement is the Polestar 2 with the "performance pack" gains absolutely nothing in term of performance, it's more of a cosmetic upgrade. Maybe on a long track day but definitely not a 50 secs~ lap.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@AW-gj4ji It's not just a cosmetic upgrade. It comes with Ohlins dampers and better brakes.

@AW-gj4ji

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminsmith2287 Please tell me what does it do on public roads, even if it's for the track I've mentioned 50 secs lap it's not being put into use at all.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@AW-gj4ji A lot of performance cars have performance that isn't useful on public roads. That's why track performance shows more the reviewer throwing the cars around but isn't useful info. The PP on Polestar makes the car feel sharper and gives it more grip on a twisty canyon road vs. the non PP version. I'll admit, most of us don't drive on canyon roads.

@AW-gj4ji

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminsmith2287 alright I will change my statement. The performance pack would improve track time but only if it’s properly tapped into. A casual short run won’t make much of a difference, other than it feel might be better. EV in general aren’t performance cars, they weren’t designed to be ran on the track either. They might be track capable to a certain extend.

Polestar looks WAY better and has more styling

👍Polestar 2

Half a second?

@jefflee1189

2 жыл бұрын

is an entire light year in a race. youre welcome

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

I think if the Polestar was on a dedicated EV platform and had less weight, it would do better. But it's quite good for a car on a hybrid platform.

nice review of the cars. I am the happy owner of a TESLA M3P and have test driven the Polestar 2 P. which is an excellent car. but I do not switch from TESLA

The Polestar is gorgeous but it is a fatty, 2.2 tons is no joke! It’s plenty quick but all that extra weight kills the range

If you got the polestar 2 dual motor performance this would be more evenly matched

Polestar is like a SUV or crossover having 245/40/20 tyres vs 235/40/19 on the model 3

Polestar 2 all the way...

Which part of the model 3 screams luxury as I'm not seeing it..interior is drab and bland

Not sure why people are hating, I think both cars are really great. I also had the tough decision between a Polestar and a Tesla. I think the interior and overall design is better on the P2. However I decided to go with the Model 3 in the end because of the Supercharger network and the overall better efficiency / range. But let’s see what the future holds, I hope Polestar will advance further with their cars and then I’ll definitely take a second look.

@tk6729

2 жыл бұрын

Tesla beats the P2 only in supercharger network and range. P2 beats Tesla in everything else and is a better overall car.

@rogerstarkey5390

2 жыл бұрын

@@tk6729 So apart from Efficiency Range Charging Interior space Performance And judging by this review, Handling..... It's better.... O....... K

@tk6729

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 I drove both you meatball. There is no comparison. P2 is a car. 3 is an appliance that is now being passed by the likes of KIA, Hyundai, VW, BMW, Audi etc.... And Toyota and Honda haven't even entered the conversation yet. Like I said, only charging network (we can remove Teslas over inflated range now, and shit lack of carplay/AA) at this point and that life-sized Elon poster for above your bed, that is what 3 has on any EV. Add to this how Teslas look like a giant balloon Miatas, and you and your fan boys can suck it and suck it good. 🎤 drop.

What Model 3 are you using? the Long Range? The performance has 660nm of torque and 0-60 in 3.1 seconds...also better brakes and slightly stiffer suspension...plus it has a track software package allowing you to customize handling balance (rear vs front) and stability control...it would have crushed the Polestar on the track. And you might be saying well the model 3 performance is more expensive ($8K more USD than the Long Range)...but 1) to get all the options on the Polestar 2 that come standard with the Tesla you have to pay roughly $8K more and 2) the hardware is nearly identical to the Long Range, they just software unlock the more power (so it costs Tesla roughly the same to build it...aka for the same costs they are building a much more capable vehicle than the polestar). Specing out the most comparable polestar 2 to the model 3 performance, in the US at least, gets me to a price of $67,400 for the polestar vs. $59,000 for the model 3 performance. The polestar 2 seems great, it really does...just worse than the model 3 in nearly every way (price, range, power, handling, technology, adas system, infotainment smoothness, and imo looks as well).

At least the Volvo looks like a car, with the instruments in front of the driver, the Tesla looks like a dodgem car with a computer in the middle of it, meaning the driver has to look away to check speeds or anything else for that matter. People aren't going to buy either of these cars for trackwork, so one being slightly faster than the other around a track is not even in the equation.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. This is useless. For driving around town, the Polestar 2 with PP is too firm. The regular Polestar 2 is firmly comfortable and built extremely solid. Overall, the Tesla feels dartier and spritely but nowhere near as solid with more road noise overall. Both of them can merge onto the highway with no problem, take corners with no problems, and overtake most vehicles with no problem.

@mikaeloverby

2 жыл бұрын

Driven most of the ev's out there and there is no different by looking to the right or down to see your speed. Head up display would be the best in both cases. Think there is a reason why tesla dominates the ev sales... and after driving one (or all), I know why.

@thelifeofbatteries2603

2 жыл бұрын

Volvo is for people that wear tartan slippers and think about their viagra supply running low

Polestar is not Swedish. It’s a Chinese company.🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

It's a Swedish company. Geely is a parent company. Just like BMW is the parent company to Rolls Royce. That doesn't automatically make their design, engineering or the team that makes them Chinese. Geely mostly finances Volvo but Volvo/Polestar are creating their cars. The only thing that Geely shares with them are platforms, and a lot of Volvo engineers went into designing the platforms. Geely's SEA platform was designed by an ex-Volvo engineer.

Having 500+ hp cars on the road is asking for trouble. Most people can't even drive 150 hp vehicles responsibly... This is the Gundam of electric sedans. Made a guitar cover video for the Gundam Unicorn opening theme, Star Ring Child.

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

most people driving 150hp wont bother to spend 50k anyway

Fresh off the boat from Sweden is the *Chinese* polestar 2

@theyoutubegeek7493

2 жыл бұрын

tesla is build in china as well, who cares simpleton

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@theyoutubegeek7493 Exactly. What does that prove? To me it shows that Volvo/Geely/Polestar's quality control is a lot better because both cars are made in the same country.

Love the look of Polestar. Much better looking then frogy model 3!

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

So you don't like Porsche frogs. Ok for you.

A real shame you test the Model3 Long Range ... with "the fastest of the Polestar2" ... I can only assume that the Performance is out of the price range being over £60k without any options. The Model 3 Performance with suspension/brakes/wheels and Track Mode would have been much more comparable to the Polestar2 Performance upgrade.

This is an adult film, featuring "alternative lifestyles".

I’d bet my money on the Polestar reaching 150,000 without major problems. The Model 3 has been on sale since 2018 and still has WHOPPING panel gaps on every car!

@danieldagenais7945

2 жыл бұрын

Dont bet too mutch money on Polestar chinese shit lool Tesla is soo mutch more efficient years ahead in the game

It is all about charging, get it right. presenter is not Chris Harris, this one makes it boring.

Great vlog, Tesla also has better technology, they just need to upgrade the braking system on standard models without having to add the rely on an "add on" package. Having said that, I'd still pick Tesla...

@Chris-yr6gu

2 жыл бұрын

only the Plaid version needs better brakes as standard. Not a $20,000 upgrade.

@kimsook3014

2 жыл бұрын

The model 3 uses the same type of motor as the Prius. Basically it's a copy made larger

He should have opgrated the polestar with the extra 70 hp.. polstar performance are op to 476 hp.. bye bye tesla

Polestar 2 all day...I just don't like Tesla's that much

ppl are buying Tesla Y here, so

Fifth Gear - its POSSIBLE to eek out a little MORE PERFORMANCE by taking a STOCK Model 3 PERFORMANCE and taking it to a PROFESSIONAL GARAGE like Unplugged Performance and having them go over the car and add REAL PERFORMANCE parts. once the Model 3P is TUNED it will smoke almost any PRODUCTION Sports Car on the TRACK.

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

dont overexaggerate it. I have a M3P myself and watch about every video available on the net. The unplugged performance tuned M3P did a 7.44min on the ring. Thas quick for an EV but even a Honda Civic Type R is faster, not to mention any supercars. "Smoke any production car" -> thats completly delusional

@spl1011

2 жыл бұрын

@@romansenger2322 Mark has buyers remorse.

0.5 second speed difference but the tesla is mad ugly compared to Polestar 2!!!!

No limits on speed .yet e bikes limited to 15mph , we e-cyclists need at least 40mph -50 mph to keep up with traffic that's capable of such speed

Lovely boring plain interior and cheapo plastic.

Volvo are the masters of understeer.

@vfr492

2 жыл бұрын

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@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

Polestar 2 is made in CHINA by GEELY.

@kogikashakunin4683

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 All the best shit is now made in China. Who cares?

@markplott4820

2 жыл бұрын

@@kogikashakunin4683 - NOPE, not even close. the AUSTIN and BERLIN Tesla model Y PERFORMANCE will be Simply the BEST CAR you can ever buy, and HUNDREDS of lbs LIGHTER than everyone else.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 Grow up. You sound childish. Tesla's aren't above reproach and they aren't the best cars in the world. Neither are Volvos. Both of these vehicles have their strengths and weaknesses. The Model Y's market share will go down. It's in a highly competitive segment and now electric vehicles on dedicated platforms are coming to compete in that space.

90% of people don’t buy ev’s to track them, i only once in my life seen a tesla accelerated hard in the real world. So bad comparison, focus more on space and quality.

@romansenger2322

2 жыл бұрын

I will bet even 99% dont track their car. And if they do they go for the Model 3 performance anyway.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

Most people driving Teslas seem to be cruising that I've seen. I see far more people accelerating hard in BMW, Mercedes and Hondas than I see Teslas. Only people on youtube seem to be obsessed with the car's speed. Most owners want an EV and Tesla is one of the few choices out there.

@mikaeloverby

2 жыл бұрын

Never been to Norway I guess.. always small races in the traffic

Number one reason to get the Polestar? It's not a Tesla.

@ZesPak

2 жыл бұрын

I don't'get it?

The Polestar is a massively superior machine to live with. Cabin design and comfort, build quality and insulation. Who gives a monkeys if its half second slower over a timed lap, these are road cars for daily use in all conditions on roads with speed limits. Which one would you want to be stuck in Traffic in? Not the unreliable American heap anyway....

@poplaurentiu4148

2 жыл бұрын

@@dougbhorne Polestar 2 just got an increase of 67 HP via OTA update +the fact that on Polstar 2 performance the brakes work really awesome as we see in the clip and the Ohlins suspension-dampers fitted have a setting for track that might help to improve the Polestar 2 time as well that this journalist didn't knew about obviously.. ;0)

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

@@poplaurentiu4148 who needs more CV when you can update your 0-60 with 1'3 seconds less.

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

That's why they sell more than the 3....

@DuckHunterGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I've been in a Polestar and it feels like it's 5 years behind the tesla.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@DuckHunterGaming Depends on your criteria. In terms of build quality and the types of materials used in the cabin, it's ahead of the Tesla. Not everything about cars is the tech. There's other aspects to consider.

Model 3. Built like a Lada with a eco box interior. All for the price of a top end BMW 3 series. Ugh.

@andylangleynz

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously never been near one

@kevinn1158

2 жыл бұрын

@@andylangleynz I’ve driven 2 different Model 3s. My in laws have a Model Y. All of them were cheap and poorly built.

@andylangleynz

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinn1158 "poorly built", please explain what was the issue

Model Y which is coing is even better. Tesla goes longer with the same amount of electricity

Fresh off the boat from China... not Sweden....

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

Who designed this car? Who engineered it? I don't care where it is built. That's almost irrelevant. Future Polestar 2s will be built in Ghent, Belgium where some Volvos are built .Doesn't make Volvo or Polestar Belgian. btw, the British get Chinese built Teslas. And most say they are way better built in terms of fit and finish than the ones coming out of California.

@sketchpro12

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminsmith2287 I was simply correcting the announcer, Geely owns and builds Polestar, is all. Yes it (was) a spin-off of Volvo at one point. Yes some of the Teslas in the EU right now are from the Shanghai factory, but it's correctly stated as an American car, as they are designed, engineered and HQ'd in the US and soon all those will come from the Berlin Factory.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@sketchpro12 Who will "build" the Polestars that will be made in the USA? A lot of American and European products are off the boat from China as well. Or off the boat from another country.

tesla has alot of really useful autopilot tech as standard.

You can't compare an SUV with a saloon? Pointless test. (Imo)

I thought some cheap Chinese EV was outselling Tesla 3 now..

@peteramey9385

2 жыл бұрын

The Wuling EV beats Tesla sales in China as its a very very cheap supermini with tiny range and no safety kit at all. It can't legally be sold in the majority of other markets because of the lack of safety kit. Aside from that nothing beats Tesla sales anywhere.

@jasper5097

2 жыл бұрын

@@peteramey9385 I wouldn't truthfully consider that vehicle a car. I would classify it as a quadracycle, given it has no safety equipment at all and a low top speed and drivable range.

@peteramey9385

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasper5097 True

@xavierStark84

2 жыл бұрын

That's not a car it's a microcar.

Well I just put my lease order in for a 2 litre petrol turbo……..4 more years !! And that will be the daily to sit next to my 5 cylinder petrol turbo. I’d rather queue at the pumps than wait for the grid to be switched on during the next energy crisis/bank holiday traffic jam.

@richardcorns8553

2 жыл бұрын

Petrol pumps need electricity to pump petrol. You're stuffed either way.

@ajwest3081

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardcorns8553 yes but at least we only have to wait 2 minutes per person per pump (assuming our eco friends haven’t crashed the grid as you correctly assert!!)

@richardcorns8553

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajwest3081 I don't wait at all. Just plug in by my front door 🙈

@ajwest3081

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardcorns8553 which is fine when you are less than 150 miles from home - on a temperate day

@ajwest3081

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardcorns8553 I can see a whole new side hustle starting up of domestic households selling electricity to stranded motorists - maybe time to start buying houses with parking next to main roads - I’m guessing the pub groups are already thinking about this

polestar2 is much more handsome but that is all