Tesla FSD BETA obstacle testing #2
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This is a stress test and a half. Terrific work, great editing. You the only one who can make a car driving video entertaining for everyone.
The perfect amount of love for Carol
@tcfs
Жыл бұрын
But not too much! He is watching us...🤣
@donaldowensiii7478
Жыл бұрын
Read this just as he said it😂
@wizzyno1566
Жыл бұрын
The perfect amount for you or for him?
Thank you to carol for being the behind the scenes glue that brought this together! 😊
Thanks from Germany. We have a really old FSD-Version here (and it didnt updated like yours) and i like to see how it "grow" over time in the US, hopefully it will come fast to us in europe.
@happyjohn1656
Жыл бұрын
FSD beta in Germany?... 🤨🤯 9:09 PM 3/23/2023
@pop_3310
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure FSD isn't available in Europe yet.
@Muskar2
Жыл бұрын
@@pop_3310 Seems like their English isn't so great so that's probably what they meant. FSD, the software feature option you can buy, is available in Europe. But the FSD Beta program is not.
@madhououinkyoma
Жыл бұрын
@@pop_3310 It is. But not FSD Beta. And it hasn't been updated in so long because of EU regulations.
@timepstein274
Жыл бұрын
I am in Italy and purchased FSD with my Tesla. I can confirm that it doesn't exist yet. Both the highway and city driving are only Adaptive cruise + autosteer (same stack as on highway with FSD prior to v11)
Glad it chose the box over Carol in your backroad trolley dilemma. That’s actually pretty sophisticated
I am continuously amazed by your ability to keep pushing your videos. This one had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, absolutely terrified by what you were gonna attempt next. An absolute emotional rollercoaster, but also quite educational.
Another stellar video and thank you Carol for helping!! Looks like some great improvements. I love that you attempted to approach this with some scientific rigor 😊
Not too much love, but also love the channel
What a throwback to times when FSD folded the mirrors at each corner! It didn't even know it still has this move in its options. Thanks for the video.
Just the right amount of love! 🙂
Wow you are brave!! And Carol is very patient! What a good sport. Thanks for sharing all the data from your experiments. It’s nice to see the progress. Now if only I would get v11! My wife got it last Sunday!
This is both funny and enlightening! And your wife is brave... and put a lot of trust in you.
@gonzaloenrique8741
Жыл бұрын
What trust is needed for this? There's no conflict of interest going on here.
Can't wait for 3rd test when FSD 12 comes out
Thank you, Carol! You aren't just helping your awesome husband, but also 80,000 or so other Tesla drivers around the world.
The Inst 360 cams are freaking awesome! I really like how you incorporate the 3rd person view in your videos and your editing in general.
Nice work. You two are hilarious!! I can't wait for the next iteration of this... and for FSDbeta to catch up with hopes and expectations.
Carol is a Trooper! Looks to be having lots of fun with her hubby. Happy4Uboth and all who are around you!
Awesome video. Thanks AIDRVR and Carol for all of your hard work. We truly appreciate the great content. We all learn from your tests and get entertained at the same time. :)
It’s not even my car and my butthole clenches when your car gets close. Love these torture tests. Seeing the new visualizations for gates auto opening and closing made me realize the car really can detect objects in the way and the road, but still has difficulty making a decision on how to behave
@mobiuscoreindustries
Жыл бұрын
This is the reason why Tesla is pushing for the decision and planning system to also use neural networks in their core instead of only partially. Because as much as we think the road is logical, it is anything but that. You can't simulate a driver with if-else statements. You can make a lane following algorithm with it, you can make an auto park with it, and you can make emergency breaking assists with it. But you cannot make a unconstrained level 3-5 system with simple statements. With a neural network you can train it to account for nuance and probable outcomes (as opposed to definitive ones) but if item detection already needed and extensive dataset, actually making a planning AI for the entirety of the road's situations will require a level of data never before seen.
This type of testing is where you see the real capabilities. Definite improvements. Love it, keep up the great work!
Amazing work as always!! Can't wait to watch V11 evolve!! 🤯
This was really great. When it comes to oncoming car turning into your lane, I wonder if turn signals (on the oncoming car) would have made a difference.
@rogergeyer9851
Жыл бұрын
Peter Gazdik: That's an interesting question. Clearly, humans (decent drivers anyway) would try to gauge intent and whether the other driver is clueless or not. The Tesla is still pretty OBLIVIOUS even when it's of actual concern, like the other driver being over the center line. And it doesn't help if a bad driver has a turn signal on and runs into you.
@peter.g6
Жыл бұрын
@@rogergeyer9851 Yes, I've also seen this behavior in previous videos on regular streets. If a colliding vehicle was moving slowly enough, FSD seemed to have considered it a stationary object and completely ignored it. IMO next visualization improvement could be an indicator of where or not FSD thinks a vehicle is moving.
@madhououinkyoma
Жыл бұрын
I think it's just a combination of speed of motion depending on the object and being significantly in the way. Cars likely will stop if heading into your lane so they are more so ignored but a pedestrian would never be.
I've been watching al your videos since my last comment like 10 videos ago, and im glad that you have managed to deal with your stress. al videos are top notch and are so enjoying to watch!! 😊
Thank you for doing these tests, I do not know of anyone else who does it and I think it is a fantastic way to get some insight into what's going on "under the hood". But like you, I have no idea what FSD is thinking in some of these situations. Looking forward to the next ones!
You are great, and Carol is an awesome wife and partner in crime in these amazing videos. You are helping all of us really feel the evolution of FSD, and I'm sure Tesla is watching since you are doing things that are way outside the norm, but crucial to the allowing the Beta to become more reliable for the real world. Many thanks.
Your videos never fail to amaze me, and this one was no exception! The production value and attention to detail were truly incredible, and it's clear that your content is always improving. I'm eagerly looking forward to the upcoming updates and can't wait to see what you have in store for us. Keep up the great work!
@AIDRIVR
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words Bernardo!
Scary stuff! Thanks to you and to Carol for another outstanding test of FSD Beta.
It's amazing to see so much progress over so little time.
I’m using 11 too. Yesterday, I noticed it recognised speed bumps with painted chevrons on the 25 mph street. It didn’t slow quite as much as I would have but it dropped 10-12 mph - reasonably comfortable. I don’t know if it recognises unmarked speed bumps… Thank you for the video and the time and effort you give!
@robertwhite3503
Жыл бұрын
KZread shows me, it seems to think 17 mph is right for speed humps that it recognises.
Great video! Thanks for continuing to provide high quality content.
These are great, very thorough test cases that are incredibly insightful. Thank you.
Awesome work! I can't believe how advanced this is! Absolutely incredible. Great testing!
So if anyone is unimpressed by this version of FSD beta, I would like to know what they’re smoking or drinking, because this is terrific stuff here, and before I go further, my hats off to you and your wife for doing these videos, because it really shows the progress that Tesla continues to make, and this demonstrates FSD beta’s capability. So what will it be capable of in the very near future, because I don’t think most people truly understand any of this stuff and as you said, I don’t understand it myself, but I do know this, no other car manufacturer that has this level of capability without all of that external apparatus that you see some of these other so called self driving car companies like, CRUISE, LYFT, WAYMO, Uber and others who have equipped their leased vehicles, none of which they manufactures with, LiDAR, extra cameras, Geo fenced routes, and all that kind of stuff, which adds an additional amount of expense to the vehicle’s cost, so when Tesla make this work, just think of the advantage that they will have, because no one wants to buy a car that looks like some kind of weird looking Frankenstein monster. So it just doesn’t look like something that I would wanna buy, and so let them do their thing and Tesla will certainly continue to pursue their version of FSD beta to perfection, because they understand just how valuable this technology truly is, and I think the other guys know it too. So when I think about the fact that the AI is thinking and figuring things out, that’s what AI is about, and so I think too many people don’t truly appreciate just how incredible this stuff is. So I don’t have the update yet, and can’t wait to get it, but I can say this though, it would not surprise me that by the end of this year, FSD beta will be fully capable of driving itself. Cheers 🥂
Props to you for going through such a hassle to test this for all of us
OMG he owns an ICE truck! 😲 How impure. 😄 Nice tests that almost no one else is doing for YT. I'm upset you'd risk a Model S like this, I mean wives are replaceable but...
Great video! Thank you to Carol for making the challenges possible.
I love these obstacle tests, and damn do i respect you for putting *both* your cars at risk for them. Thanks AIDriver, and (respectfully) thanks Carol!😉
You are the real star of this show! Extremely useful information that I am very grateful for. I am 75 and feel like eventually my wife and I will need all the driving help we can get, hence the Tesla MY purchase. I haven’t subscribed to FSD Beta yet, waiting for the V11 stack plus $200/month is a lot for us that needs to be justified by increased safety. My big question now is how well FSD with HW3 will perform at speed, say 35-70 mph.
@haz226
Жыл бұрын
You probably shouldn’t. It is kind of more dangerous than driving yourself IF you aren’t paying attention. In your case, this can give you a false sens of confidence that is more dangerous. You should pay as much attention with FSB than without it. It’s far from perfect, and multiple models got recalled in the last couple of month. It is not safer, for the moment it is more of a gadget. Please drive safe! ❤
"not too much love" killed me hahahah. Sending you just the right amount of love Carol. ✌
Love it! I was waiting for this!
Thanks so much for doing these tests!
Not having any idea why it's making decisions it does is an inherent feature to how AI/neural networks currently work. Not even the people who develop them really have a good idea of why it makes certain decisions. This is also why self-driving cars are still terrifying, even though on average they're extremely safe
@w0ttheh3ll
Жыл бұрын
People generally don't have a good idea of why they made certain decisions. Does that mean that humans driving are terrifying for this reason?
@rogergeyer9851
Жыл бұрын
Benjamin: Yes. It's like we're literally growing "alien intelligence" when advanced AI work results in things like Alpha-Go or Alpha-Star, etc. This is a significant issue even for games of skill. Imagining it for something as complex and serious as a general driving solution is just mind boggling.
@rogergeyer9851
Жыл бұрын
@@w0ttheh3ll: But we do have a good general concept for the way human minds work, and we're adding to that all the time. We might have no real idea AT ALL of the way AI works, given lots of parameters. It's something VERY different, IMO.
@benjaminsandeen9241
Жыл бұрын
@@w0ttheh3ll I don't think so, because I think the premise flawed. People might not understand why they make certain decisions in life, but the basic goals of driving are usually pretty straightforward: Arrive at your destination, and do so safely and on time. The rules of the road are vastly simpler than the rules of life. Additionally, I think you're conflating the meta-knowledge I'm referring to. Generally, we can assume that any drivers that see a pedestrian on a road will come to the determination that they are in fact a pedestrian. Since we don't understand how an AI system "thinks", we have no way to intuit how likely that system is to identify that same pedestrian correctly. Humans typically have a huge portion of their cognitive abilities dedicated to understanding and predicting the behaviors of their fellow humans. We have built that up over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. We have no corresponding facilities for understand an AI's behavior, and what's more, we will be very unlikely to develop such abilities as long as AI remains an inscrutable black box. All that being said, please note that I deliberately talked about whether human drivers who *see* a pedestrian come to determine that it's a human; an AI system is much more likely to perceive a pedestrian than a human driver, which is certainly a massive point in its favor. On the other hand, if the AI system makes an incorrect decision about how to react to the pedestrian, it may well decide to speed up, for some unknowable reason due to its AI. It's incredibly unlikely that a human driver would react in the same way; the risks with a human driver almost exclusively lie with the lack of perception. So, when I say it's terrifying, I suppose I'm saying that I'm scared about the changing risk structure of existing around multi-ton missiles that are controlled by robots, the decisions of which I have a reduced risk of predicting as I attempt to navigate myself around them.
I enjoy your tests, cheers from Germany.
Love your channel. I hope you continue to challenge the beta.
Folding the mirrors squeeze through that truck was very smart and pretty cute.
Your videos are light years ahead of everyone else. I’m watching the future unfold before my very eyes. I will now be waiting for the next one…
Superb video AGAIN! Loving your pushing! 😊
You and Carol are amazing for doing these tests. It's so cool to see how FSD reacts and I was pleasantly surprised how it did. I almost wonder if the other vehicle needs to be perpendicular (or nearly) to be considered. You'd expect how much they're in your lane to matter. Hopefully with the next major version.
Still the best FSD Beta youtuber! Love the dramatic opening.
Great test Chris!👍👍🇸🇪
Thank You, Carol!!!
I actually thought that it was very impressive that beta caught the wheel in the road, particularly when it was in the shade through so much of the testing. It would have been easier to detect had it been in the sun, making a higher contrast image.
Thank you Carol.
With just a bit too much twinkle in my eye - Thanks Carol !
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Thanks, Carol! I’m glad you could help to make this video possible!
Excellent stress test and good editing. Kudos to the wife. I appreciate you weren't kicking the can down the road!
These are the best videos you make! Thank you!! Any chance you could try a baby stroller next time?
Love these so much. If you can think of some crazy obstacles for a double trouble video I’ll drive out to ya 😎
Great work! Thanks as always 👍
I love the progressively more beat-up Starlink box.
I like how it did in the first oncoming test, her car never crossed into your lane, so it makes sense why it didn’t slow, only steer away
HOLY CRAP that first test with the truck made me yell out loud.I was terrified how close your car was. I do not have the cohones for that, more power to you!
New sub! Love your videos man, especially ones like these!!
woah, insane tests, great job, please stay safe!!!
Loved the stress tests
@AIDRIVR
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Truly appreciated :]
Strong Work, Carol!!
Fun to watch! Thanks :)
Another awesome video and love to Carol(as much as you’ll allow it)😂
Great job! Important improvements! Invisible stick works great-I always wondered how you did it!
I find the turn in test fascinating because in my experience with the beta, anytime another car even hints at entering the road, or hell is even just sitting in the media pointing at the road, FSD Beta for me loves to slam on the brakes.
Wow, shout out to the pretty scary risks you took in this video. Very entertaining and interesting :)
IMO, if you're going to have someone roll/push an obstacle onto the road, they need to be HIDING behind something because with FSD detecting the person, it's going to default to the best way to avoid hitting the human.
Can you test branches similar to fallen trees? It would be interesting to see how well the occupancy network performed in that scenario
@bradstewart7007
Жыл бұрын
Literal branch prediction.
@thesadboxman
Жыл бұрын
@@bradstewart7007 😂
@rogergeyer9851
Жыл бұрын
Jonathan Mui: Yes, because with Chuck Cook in recent months on the no-lines road he tests on, it repeatedly ignores branches in the road (even significant ones) that are hanging from trees. Lots and lots of cases to work on.
Nice work Carol!
production value continues to impress
Thanks Carol for showing up again, you are the love of my life 😛
@robertwhite3503
Жыл бұрын
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Great work! Very interesting test results! On the truck turning towards your lane test, actually I'm kind of okay with that change. I actually think in my experience the current v10 build freaks out and slows down *too* easily IMO. Like if someone is coming up to turn out of a parking lot or driveway, the car will slow down quite a bit when it really shouldn't. The default assumption appears to be (and should be) that even if it's moving towards your lane in that moment, they're not just going to go straight into your lane like a crazy person. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I think waiting until it actually enters your path is appropriate and more natural IMO.
@rogergeyer9851
Жыл бұрын
Andrew: Yes. It's difficult. If it is too cautious, then you get a bad passenger experience. I suspect the "lots of data" and TIME is going to really matter for things like this. (Or I hope so, because having to hard code solutions is somewhere between bad and risky). Maybe the full blown occupancy network, coupled with training and Dojo can really make a difference for issues like this.
@JohnVanderbeck
Жыл бұрын
Unfortuntely in my experience v11 is just like v10 in this respect. I don't know why it acted like this in the video but in actual driving for me it still freaks out and damn near slams the b rakes whenever a car even thinks about entering my lane.
Obstacle testing #2. By the way, I have difficulty communicating because I had a stroke in Broca’s area, the part of the brain that controls speech. 2/8/2021 but I lived again. (My wife helped me compose this.)
@AIDRIVR
Жыл бұрын
Wow, glad you are still here and okay! And thank you for watching my videos, truly means a lot
Fantastic video and keep them coming. Really appreciate your narration and use cases showcased during your videos too. Very informative. + It’s time to take wide out to a nice dinner for her support. 😊💪☕️🤠🚀🚀
@1519Spring
Жыл бұрын
*wife, or Carol, but not "wide." Oof.
Your wife is incredible for literally putting her self in harms way for this test! ❤
Carol, you are a trooper!
Thanks guys brilliant as usual
The truck tests are interesting. It would be really easy to train FSD just for a car turning into your lane , but what makes it hard is that in vast majority of cases cars don’t do that. Driving is crazy, everyone is going 50MPH in opposite directions with like 1-2 feet space in-between. We all accept this and expect oncoming traffic to behave. It’s not acceptable for a Tesla to suddenly slam its breaks because an oncomer decide to swerve a little in their own lane. So to a human this seems easy… but it’s actually extremely difficult. You have to have essentially 0 false positives, and 0 false negatives. (where a positive is where it thinks there’s a car coming into your lane, a false positive is where it thinks a car is coming into your lane but it actually isn’t) Right now it is virtually 0 false positives and a few false negatives. Since normal case is that a car doesn’t suddenly turn into your lane, it makes sense Tesla is approaching getting the 0:0 false ratio from the direction of 0 false positives.
Awesome video. Thanks!
Thanks for testing
Thanks Carol!
Thank you Carol
Peeped the Valentine One. Good taste 👌🏻
Wow! I will be too scared to do what you did. Thank you, thank you! BTW, I really like your steering wheel cover that covers the steering wheel pretty completely making the steering wheel a bit fatter. Please tell me where you get it from. Since my fingers are suffering from arthritis, I can’t really wrap my fingers around the steering wheel on my Model Y.
Carol knows what we want. 👍👍👍 Carol! And you, for your courage! I don't understand people who say "FSD will be sooo safe". I have avoided a couple of times really tiny* objects on the road, that were maybe only 2 inches high but very dangerous like metal rods or sheet metal parts or nails on parking lots. Avoiding quite small but extremly deep pot holes also prevented a lot of damage to my undercarriage. And if not dangerous I go around even very small animals like toads, squirrels or small cats. Who am I that I could decide that small animals are worth nothing? I safed my life also once by avoiding a very, very unexpected object falling from very high in front of me, I could because I saw it starting to roll. That all needs understanding the whole situations and what these objects really are and what they will do seconds later. FSD will never calculate how a small animal typically will behave or if construction objects can start rolling or not, FSD will not be able to distiguishe between the behaviour of a tractor or digger etc. etc.
@mattesrocket
Жыл бұрын
an example: the second biker predicts something, FSD would not be able to predict it because it has no clue what a straw bale is. This situation at high speed and a much bigger trailer happened to me on a country road and the bale came from very high where FSD anyway ignores all objects (except traffic lights). kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3Zn1NSvltnMYto.html
Great stress test, amazing how much decisions it's making, even harder for humans. I have to say, it decided the way I would do...and path planner is thinking like humans, left or right better and then final decision. We just don't see our mind decision path
Thanks for all the testing. I believe the software is set to recognize the blue truck icon once it goes across to the wrong side of the road/street. Also, you probably haven’t tried to test the head on ability while driving both vehicles at a similar speed towards each other.
The daylight running lights on the S are so fucking sexy. Like literally.
Insta360 is sponsoring you because your use of their camera is off the charts great. I would not be surprised to your video clips in their sales material.
Thanks for effort ❤️
9:45 I think there must be some sort of inflection point involved… Like it allows the other driver to mess about within their own lane, under the assumption that the other driver will typically choose to self-correct and/or not leave their lane. But as soon as they cross over the Tesla is ready to react
Great testing. The Sissys complaining about the wife testing in the prior video didn't take into account your multi-factor safety features. You not only wore a full helmet, but you also took out life insurance on her.
You rock Carol! 😊
Great work!