Hi Sam ! Your content is great value, thank you for this. Just technically the sound isn't loud enough, so that we have to turn the volume almost all the way up to get the best out of it, which is not optimal.

Model 3 was unveiled in 2017, Model Y 2019. Highland released in 2023 so Juniper in 2025 sounds about right

@videorecreators

2 ай бұрын

Highland didn't start sales until 2024 from what I remember

@nshon7

2 ай бұрын

@@videorecreators First deliveries in China was Nov’23

For me, I want the Juniper version. Buying the existing version would need additional price reduction. I was anticipating the Model Y purchase during the northern hemisphere summer 2024. However, adding an adjustable air suspension (like Model X) as an extra cost option would make the deal now. We need more ground clearance for some primitive roads in Mexico.

@iManiac7

4 ай бұрын

There wont be air suspension on model Y, but suspension overall will be much better! I have MYP 2023 and drove my friends M3 Highland, suspension so much better, car is more comfortable and quieter!

@Harrythehun

4 ай бұрын

Buy a cybertruck, rivian or a Ford F-150 Lightning.?

@Uberkeko.

4 ай бұрын

The ground clearance is ridiculous low. You can't even handle some underground parkings in europe

Osbourne effect in full swing.

If I was Tesla, I would flood the market with anonymous rumors of a late 2025 launch for the US to clear out inventory of the current model Y. My bed is there terrified of being stuck with massive quantities of model Y due to the Osborne effect

@TamasVarga-VatartPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Yes. I agree

@jesusginard

5 ай бұрын

Yep. I think the Juniper comes this summer and they want to clear out the current stock before the new version hits.

@matronix1977

5 ай бұрын

Yes and it started in Canada with 5000$ rebates ! Now 53 000 $

@Harrythehun

4 ай бұрын

I see problems with Tesla lying to consumers. Maybe you like lies and corruption, but I consider honor and integrity is something to aspire for.

Thanks for all the info. We're going to wait for the Juniper version with the CATL LFP battery!!

Why would you buy now? The current MY will lose so much value once the Juniper is out. And then you're either stuck with the old version or (maybe even worse) you will sell the old MY and lose a lot of money. Either way: At the moment it will cost you a fortune just to drive the current MY for 1 year. And Imo the car is too outdated and not exciting enought to justify that.

@Vanilla2165

3 ай бұрын

Personally I recently leased a Model Y for two years, as a company car. I get to enjoy the Tesla experience, learn my way around the car and then hand it back after two years where I will hopefully then pick up a Juniper model Y. It made sense for me, rather than wait...

If Model Y here in the U.S. gets the updates China Model Y has gotten, I'd be ordering it already.

I recently bought a model Y in Belgium (Germany version) De standard edition RWD and it has the LFPbattery. So just go for this one, it is plenty fast.

I think they should make some interior changes in the US like they have in China but don't worry about the battery changes outside of china. I think they will probably end up doing that and not announce it as it would be only a minor update which will allow them to make the production lines more efficient.

They are not delaying Juniper, they are saying they are so their best selling car does not hit Osbourne effect, if anything they want to make it as fast as possible. A model Y sales bump will show massively in income and delivery numbers.

@TamasVarga-VatartPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely and the competition from China is getting stronger and cheaper, Tesla needs to keep its technology advantage

Got the 2020 M3 and ill be keeping that one. My second car will be the long range Juniper variant. I live in the Netherlands so i expect to be one of the first here just like the highland

If no juniper till 2025, can we hope for V2G?

Then except for a better battery, they need to do all the other upgrades to it and release it ASAP! 300-350mi range is absolutely fine. I want the new head- and taillights, cooled front seats, dashboard, etc. Tesla, you need to do it this year with a Q2 release! You can do it.

@TamasVarga-VatartPhoto

5 ай бұрын

I agree. Tesla has been famous for NOT WANTING for traditional product refresh cycles but releasing updates bit by bit on the fly, on a very agile way. Y would they wait to release all the advancements all at once. Ventilated seats, back screen, zero impact on the structure of the car. They can be added any time without much testing..

Do you think they are waiting because they are making major changes like 4 wheel and drive by wire steering?

5000$ rebate in Canada, the strategy is on to sell all the inventory. Exactly the same price for a model 3. 53 000 $

I never thought we’d see Juniper in 2024. I predict the schedule will be the same as the new Model 3. China in the fall, Europe in the winter and the US in the Spring.

I’m hoping to get model Y juniper as well. But i need to order this year. Would be frustrated if in jan new model comes out.

The new catl battery is a game changer, Tesla needs to be ready to launch it globally at the same time otherwise people will wait for it and the sales would stop

@robertfonovic3551

5 ай бұрын

Yet another " Game Changer "😅😅

@jefflittle8913

5 ай бұрын

@@robertfonovic3551 Hasn't the game changed?

@robertfonovic3551

5 ай бұрын

@@jefflittle8913 you mean, HAS the game changed ? FYI I stopped playing games when I was 10 yrs old.

@Marcotra

5 ай бұрын

@@robertfonovic3551 10-80% in 15 minutes is next level now is 30 minutes in model 3/Y. The older models are going to depreciate quite a lot when this new battery will come out

@Trust_but_Verify

5 ай бұрын

Is CATL battery not going to qualify for $7,500 EV credit?

Not sure if in Europe the New Model 3 highland is selling so well. We have a lot of turnabouts and narrow streets or parking spaces. The lack of commodos and parking sensors is criticized a lot. Personally it’s a no brainer, if the new Y juniper comes without stalks I will not even consider it.

@Fomites

4 ай бұрын

What's "commodos"?

@gabriel_8801

3 ай бұрын

@@Fomites sorry that was the French word for stalks

@Fomites

3 ай бұрын

@@gabriel_8801 Thanks 🙂

THANKS SAM,🤗 FOR EXPLAINING,THIS MAKES SENSE 🧐, I AM PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH MY M Y LONG RANGE AWD I GOT IN JUNE 🤗❤️💚💚💚

Well the Highland is a new car with the old battery tech so I don't know why Tesla just make the Juniper changes now and then later just change the battery when its available as all those changes will make the Y a better car and more attractive and it should get a longer range with those changes.

Tesla's usually late because they're setting too ambitious goals. But usually do get there - prod FSD excepted. But delaying Juniper so as not to upset mainly the US/NA market - their biggest seller by far the Y - is such a mistake. For a few more sales due to the US grants on home grown EVs&batteries, the majority will consider delaying knowing with the Highland what the Model Y will soon be - i.e. much better.

I'm very reluctant to even consider waiting till next year for a Y-Juniper. Having to wait because US customers might get their noses out of joint is just foolish. Does it really matter who gets the Y-J first?

I’ve driven the new Model 3 and old Model Y back to back. Conclusion, wait for the new one… Suspension is better, it’s quieter, importantly the seats are way better IMO. Steering wheel button based indicators took a single use to get used to. Also. We need to see these prices in the UK.

@Trust_but_Verify

5 ай бұрын

Can't they upgrade each item (suspension, dual pane rear window, seats) individually without having to change the body? The refresh would be new body + new wheel + backseat screen + strip light. I think suspension change and double pane window alone would make people go for it.

@John-FourteenSix

5 ай бұрын

@@Trust_but_Verify The body gives it 5% additional range because of a CoD around 0.21 (ish) that’s very very low. Very slippery shape!

@davejohnson6144

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I wish there was a way of buying suspension components to make it ride like the Highland. The current aftermarket comfort suspension for the Y still sucks

"You cannot say EVs are expensive anymore." 35k$ isn't exactly cheap, still 10-15 k$ more expensive than budget-oriented ICEVs.

I understood it to only be the US market much similar to the M3 which came to Europe and China first. It's quite another story if postponement to 2025 is indeed globally. What can then be said of the next gen vehicle in late 2025??

Tesla moving at a snails pace compared to BYD. Could be good for patient investors tho if buying monthly and Tesla start growing again one day.

I’m already driving a Tesla, and I’m waiting for the Model 3 Performance. Or I’ll consider Model Y Juniper Performance.

Morning mate

Hello Viking, we are writing to you from Spain, with these delays we are going to decide to buy another brand like Byd or Polestar. The Model and it looks dated. greetings

I am very happy with my 2022 LR Y. I love driving it. Its the best time of my day really.

The refreshed model will come out when Tesla is good and ready,Only Tesla knows when and what changes they will make.No rumours needed

Hopefully the 'old' Model Y prices will come down accordingly prior to the Juniper version coming out.

@stevemann6110

5 ай бұрын

I suspect the highland is already geared for V2G. Makes no sense Tesla rolling out V2G in 2025 12 months after launching the new M3. I suspect a software update will enable this!

@TamasVarga-VatartPhoto

5 ай бұрын

@@stevemann6110good point. I hope so. If true, KZread channels who de-assemble the car, don’t you think they would find evidence of V2L components?

@stevemann6110

5 ай бұрын

@@TamasVarga-VatartPhoto I’m not sure if they’ve stripped a highland fully down yet but I know the old model 3s the only thing preventing V2L,V2G etc was a circuit board in the charger which had diodes fitted to the battery side of the board to prevent current flowing backwards. Swap these out for some transistors and a tweak on the software and this would allow V2G etc there was a video online somewhere. I’ll try and link it here. It would make sense for Tesla to do this to future proof the cars, like they have been all along. Found it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/noyjzax-qrvdkaw.htmlsi=Cge7qmudwzJtiMAw

if the standard range would have similar range as the current long range, and same price as current standard (maybe an increase of 2-3%) it would become an even better buy for everyone that really wants a crossover in the C-D segment. But what I am really curious, is what will happen with the sales of the model y, when the "next gen" smaller crossover will come out. Because from what I gathered from all over the internet (as believable rumors) it will be a car around the size of the vw id3 (somewhat taller and with a little bit more space in the boot and on the inside) and the price tag of a fully loaded vw polo. So...how in the world would they keep up with demand, if this is true, I don't know

Tesla did not delay the Highland Model 3, it was release in Europe and China half a year before the US. So why should they delay the Model Y?

Maybe when it come out the share price will have gone up enough to buy one.

The design of model Y already looks outdated to me!

@bullshitbingo2259

5 ай бұрын

The car is totally outdated on the inside and outside

All I really want is cooled seats.

There is no point in introducing a revised Model Y that doesn't have a) 800V charging and b) fast charging in excess of a 400 kW (peak) charging rate. Introducing anything less would just be introducing an obsolete product. Vehicles being introduced in China right now already have those features, e.g. the Zeekr 007, and specs like that will soon be the norm.

@bullshitbingo2259

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, the thing is, Tesla is far behind in technology adaptation. Anither point is the infrasteucture. They do not even have 800V chargers, so there is no point for Tesla to change their mass produced vehicles over to 800V. Tesla's infrastructure is holding it back - comical.

@chris27gea58

5 ай бұрын

@@bullshitbingo2259 The limiting factor is Tesla's EV motors and electrical architecture. The v4 Supercharger has a peak voltage of a bit under 1000V and peak power of 615 kW. That charger will support 6C - 8C charging for EV batteries of average size making 10 minute recharges very impactful (even if a full 0% - 100% recharge takes a bit longer than that). Additionally, Tesla needs to do the chemistry and cell science to make the cells for such fast charging batteries. Currently, Tesla isn't even close.

j'aurai aimé en savoir un peu plus sur cette nouvelle batterie

They are delaying it so that the current Model Y will be sold as plan if not many orders will be changed to refreshed one and that will be a lot of money waste and cost for Tesla. I do think Tesla will not allow producing/selling Model Y refresh before most of the ordered current modell Y are sold

You can wait all your life for newer versions - there will always be newer versions planned at the time you want to buy a current latest model.

@bullshitbingo2259

5 ай бұрын

Fortune cookie wisdom

Aren’t they continuously updating the Y anyways? I don’t know why the ‘refresh’ would be such a big change unless it was more body design.

@robertfonovic3551

5 ай бұрын

It's just marketing spin. Why waste money on upgrades when it may not equate to increased sales ? Ev sales have tanked, just like Tesla's share price.

@Ertn1

5 ай бұрын

Better range, sharper and more modern look, improved interior, improved rims…

@markthomas7279

5 ай бұрын

This is the toughest year for Tesla as they are between waves. If marketing is the only lever then pull the lever. The extending of Model Y is central.

@Paul-ow9dd

5 ай бұрын

Design changes will be a big part of the update, similar to the 2024 M3. They won't change those without relaunching the vehicle as they did for the M3. Suspension tweaks and a few more cabin changes - including removing the stalks and adding a rear LCD screen.

@michaelgoble8200

5 ай бұрын

I got the impression that the upgrade would include much better batteries. That would be a very significant improvement.

I would really like to see the new version

All new CATL batteries, even if they are being produced now, are in very limited quantities. They are enough to assemble 100-200 cars per month. And it will be like this for another 5 years. And only then, when the volumes grow, Tesla will start installing them.

Not surprise at all.every time they do such things the share price react badly. Better to wait the right time otherwise backlash again

Model Y should get magnetic suspention like the mach E. If it got drive by wire like the cyber truck and, 48V maybe it could be cheaper to make.

I got a new model Y in December and have no regrets at all. My best car ever. You can’t spend your life waiting for a new model. If you want a model Y now, get the existing model, you will not regret. BTW the suspension is noticeably better than earlier model Y, I think Tesla’s have already improved that aspect

@Poederman3

5 ай бұрын

Not agree, Model Y Juniper in the pipeline, wait if you like technology and improved energy efficiency ( and in case you already have a 100% EV right now) 😊

@bullshitbingo2259

5 ай бұрын

Who tf buys the outdated Model Y crap EV at this point? The range is abysmal small, the interior is worse than any chinese car

Don't care how long they delay the juniper version, Osborne effect already set in. Won't even consider ordering this current version of the Model Y.

I hope that one day they reduce the turning radius. Its ridiculous

reports all over the news in the U.S. about the cybertruck rusting , can't wait to hear the real story.

@oldbloke204

5 ай бұрын

Do you expect it to all be lies or something? No surprise given that stainless steel doesn't act in the way that so many fanboys think it does in this regard.

@larryc1616

5 ай бұрын

Stainless steel doesn't rust. Fake news from loser haters! ⚡️🇺🇸

@bfree6197

5 ай бұрын

It's all over the internet if you search cyber truck rusting. Their are many different types of stainless steel. If you choose the wrong type... yes, it can rust!!!

@ronin4580

5 ай бұрын

@@larryc1616 Like fun it doesn't. It depends on many factors, but it does rust.

@oldbloke204

5 ай бұрын

@@larryc1616 Look into it a bit more and try coping less hard dude. I guess I must be a loser hater but I can afford to go and buy one for cash unlike most of the fanboys.

They decided to intergrate the new 48v system in the Model Y refresh.

Tesla model Y Juniper 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I was so happy when rumors said there it was going to be a new car mid year… I’m waiting to buy it and I don’t wanna buy the last “old” model y and maybe after 4-6 months the new one gets out.. 😭😭😭😭

@domenkuzma

4 ай бұрын

Yes, I feel the same way.

Tesla Fanboys dont want to hear it, but this bla bla is standard for Tesla. Same like the $25k EV since 2018, or 2020, or 2022, or 2024, or 2026 . . . Or their $50k Cybertruck, that wasn't $50k, or $60k, or $70k, but will start at $80k. Lots of talk, no walk.

Model Y is 20k cheaper than last year. Is clear that Tesla prices were a rip off for the quality they had like many said. Now they are well priced. And they have improved many aspect of the cars. They are an intelligent buy now.

Does this mean that we may now see the new CATL 2nd gen LFP battery debut for Tesla this year in the M3 rather than in MY Juinper?

@barygol

5 ай бұрын

I don't think so. I think MY will be the first Tesla with the golden battery from CATL. I'll wait for it

Waiting for the anti-China/CATL LFP hysteria to calm down, and see where the market/regulations are next year. No use rushing into possible another economic storm when 'everything' is uncertain. What is certain is that Juniper is already on the books regarding design/production, b-b-but I'm also thinking that Juniper could do 48V/drive-by-wire🧐👍Yeah, there could be some hesitation to buy now, but the US market is soft anyway, so let things stand until EV sentiment improves. Not like this will make 2024 inventory numbers skyrocket, which only means a possible price cut to maintain present production/price/performance which is still going to be leading GM/Ford EV delays. Of course Hyundai/KIA and Volvo are not waiting, and could pick up market share. Also waiting for Tesla lithium/battery production to come online in late 2025. Not like there's nothing-to-do or sell, with Cybertruck/Semi/Optimus ramping, and so many other things going on at Tesla.

Must launch soon. Y lr awd.

when model y delivery numbers tumble and stocks too ( cause there will not be a model 2 or decent cybertruck numbers) then juniper will see the light faster than a falcon 9

Free FSD swap and 7500 tax credit. I ordered a model y. Selling my OG model 3. No brainer for me.

I watched the video with english subtitles. I wonder what that 'Juni perversion' is all about...😳

I believe the report is targeting all the prospective buyers who after the New Juniper Model Y as Tesla China just released the new HW4 updated Model Y! Many car influencers told Chinese buyers to Hold and wait for Juniper😂

No one wants to be screwed by a big upgrade on model y

this is going to cost tesla many many sales.

@ktms1188

5 ай бұрын

What car are you gonna buy instead? Yeah, there’s a lot of options but none of them will be the new model Y in my humble opinion.

@yggdrasil9039

5 ай бұрын

@@ktms1188 Plenty of electric SUVs on the market now. A lot of them are cheaper than the Y, eg Volvo EX30, and some considerably so, like BYD Atto 3 and Seal U.

@jasiaci1

5 ай бұрын

true@@ktms1188

@Aztasu

5 ай бұрын

@@ktms1188 lol Model Y is crazy outdated. Every single SUV on the market has better specs today, even the ID.4 Pro has. Wtf is 260miles of range in 2024. The interior of the Model y looks 20 years old because it is bland and cheap - just slapping a touchsreen in the middle is not a design and not quality. Only NPCs are buying Teslas at this point.

@barygol

5 ай бұрын

Byd Sea Lion, Byd Song L, Polestar 4, etc... there's plenty of options at the moment. They should release it this year

There is a surplus of model y that they can’t sell.

Model Y was introduced much later than the 3 therefore it makes sense that the release of the new model will be later.

I don't understand how Tesla is going to be producing CATL batteries. How does that work, under licence or something? Is this confirmed or just speculation? It sounds unlikely.

@larryevans6739

5 ай бұрын

If CATL licenses battery tech, i would not expect it to be their latest and greatest. They are likely to keep their best tech in house. More likely the previous generation tech. BYD is also licensing LFP tech to LG, but it is their older 4680 model, not the more advanced blade batteries.

I’m waiting for an updated Y. It’s outdated currently

I've waited for it like I waited for phones. First once never the best. But second learned from the past but still could be better 3th integrated and remodeled with more love and integrity. So I'm waiting Tesla until it comes out. I've waited sins it came and won't fall for the car trap.

I test drove the model Y and too much road noises I can wait

Probably a good thing. The longer Tesla delay going stalkless on its most popular model the better.

It doesn't seem cheaper here in Australia Sam! I've been waiting to buy the model y for years and years but now I'm going to look seriously at the Volvo offering

@xJI00

5 ай бұрын

Equates to $54,000 Australian. Would hardly call it cheap. That’s definitely luxury vehicle territory, which is the case for all EV’s despite them being cheaper to build. On top of that, you’re committing to limited range and massive insurance costs.

@sun-man

5 ай бұрын

@@xJI00 Talk to the hand, troll. I'm totally committed to buying an EV.

@oldbloke204

5 ай бұрын

@@sun-man Why? Seems strange that you are committed to just one drivetrain without looking at all the options? Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them a troll. I've looked long and hard at all of this and still can't make a great argument for an EV at this point.

@brandonvernet

5 ай бұрын

@@oldbloke204that’s coz ur old and don’t understand new tech

@oldbloke204

5 ай бұрын

@@brandonvernet Don't I? Wow. So they're more expensive, don't go as far, devalue quicker and have other compromises as well but it's about the tech you say? I work on total cost of ownership with vehicles which is part of the reason we could easily afford one but choose not to.

Tesla Will loose market to zeekr because of the Old model y is not a good car anymore…. Only in price

My problem is that in the time I wait for the Juniper version next year, I will have read quite a few more of Elon Musk's tweets which push me further and further away from having anything to do with Tesla and Musk.

@larryevans6739

5 ай бұрын

Especially with the election coming up.

EV's still expensive in UK. Viking needs to qualify his statements when he says EV's are no longer expensive / same cost as ICE etc. The starting price for a Model Y long range in the UK is a few pounds short of £53,000. At todays exchange rate, that is equivalent to $66,500 - & private buyers in the UK do not get any $7,500 federal tax benefit. The Viking has repeatedly stated that the price of the batteries are dropping & as the batteries are such a large percentage of the cost of producing an EV, therefore the cost of EV's will come down. Therefore I feel it is reasonable to assume tht any one deciding to wait for a Juniper Model Y, if it comes in say a years time, should not end up paying significantly more than the price today, & in theory, should end up paying less given the battery cost argument heard hear repeatedly. The only caveat to this is in territories, like the US, where there is a good tax incentive program for EV's, & this could potentially be withdrawn by a government at any time in the next year, then, you might end up paying more.

To milk new Model 3 sales to their maximum potential of course, I bet soon they will change their plans again because lets be honest nobody loves sedans anymore.

@Paul-ow9dd

5 ай бұрын

Yep, another speak for yourself. We have a BYD Atto 3 mid-size SUV. Don't need another, so ordered a 2024 M3 LR.

If this is true, its reallt strange. Why must Tesla reliased Juniper in Europe, US and China at the same time?????? I think tTesla can lose sales on this!

I’m disappointed. A whole day has gone past without the Viking announcing a “revolutionary” new battery that will be a “game changer”. Come on Sam, pick up your game.😅

Hey Sam, you are wrong. Here is why: - Tesla will not update tooling at the same time US/EU/China cause that is stupid and expensive (dry ouf of cars) - Tesla only said that updated Y is comming later 2025 in the US (no one said something about EU/China) - Tesla also did the same with the Model 3 why change strategy now? - Tesla sales are well in the US much better that EU/China so no need to rush in the US - Tesla sales in EU/China for new Model 3 are not that great so they need update Y asap - Tesla for now use 0% finance / lease to get rid of "old" Y's but this can't be hold to next year.

@pauld3327

5 ай бұрын

If Tesla remove the stalks on Model Y, the sales will not increase in Europe.

@testingtime7780

5 ай бұрын

@@pauld3327 It may kick out some coustomers, but I think if they will luch the new model Y there will be a lot of customer who will buy. For me its more important that parking works great, for now without the sensors it'S only "okish". I personally wait for the new LMFP batterie I have they feeling this will increased range a lot.

I wonder if it is possible that you made the most damage in these rumors? At least me, I heard that info "don't buy the old model Y, the new one is on its way and it's much better car!" So far only from you. Who knows. You try to promote Tesla, and end up as a factor helping to throw a stick into their gears...

Not good

@robertfonovic3551

5 ай бұрын

Yes. Good. 😊

@oldbloke204

5 ай бұрын

@@robertfonovic3551 Maybe they're not releasing it as they're spending all their time polishing the cybertrucks after they've been outside in the weather or a bird crapped on them?

BYD just licensed Blade Battery to Ford and GM suppliers. 8 year license. When will you actually realise the Blade Battery is the best bar none

@larryevans6739

5 ай бұрын

It is a license just to build the pack. BYD will still supply the structural blade cells.

@bydman5320

5 ай бұрын

@@larryevans6739i know

Evening mate

@robertfonovic3551

5 ай бұрын

Nigh nigh.

If this is true, Tesla will lose sales to the competition.

@mikafiltenborg7572

5 ай бұрын

Tesla's competition is coming All over them self 😂

@mikafiltenborg7572

5 ай бұрын

Tesla can sell every EV they produce ‼️

❤Tesla ⚡️🇺🇸

I believe the delay is not just directly related to getting LFP batteries in high volume domestically. But also related to moving to 48 volt and its supply chain. The Model Y if it gets the new LFP batteries and 48 volt will be better is every area; ie range, speed of charge and weight reduction.

The Model Y even before the update is better than anything else out there.

Vaporware selling, is getting old .

You can wait, it will be way better, but be prepared to pay 2022 prices for this new version. Prices will jump at least $15,000 for the juniper. Also, tesla needs to put this LFP battery into the cybertruck too!

Sold my M3 to buy the Updated MY, hmmm now its not coming, i wont wait, sale lost by Tesla !!

@hogarthpaul

5 ай бұрын

I think you may have jumped the gun there. Hard to blames Tesla for your poor judgment.

@Paul-ow9dd

5 ай бұрын

Sold your M3! When were you expecting the "Juniper" Y to arrive... next week? Was always going to be late this year. Now, even later. Anyway, I feel better as I was wondering whether to get the 2024 M3 OR wait for the new Y. Glad I ordered the M3 LR.

BYD Song L wins...

Osborn efferct from Model Y towards model 3. I want a model Y but the new version. Tels would have to drop model 3 prices a lot if Juniper comes out now.

Tesla have to avoid the "Osborne" effect - an expectation of a newer model depriving cashflow while customers wait for that me model. Sell what you currently make to finance your next model (in secret).

@robertfonovic3551

5 ай бұрын

Nope. EV market is going backwards. So why spend the money now? Simple.

@connclissmann6514

5 ай бұрын

@@robertfonovic3551 And yet the Model Y is best selling car (not just EV) in Europe in 2023. Hardly going backwards, then?

@Paul-ow9dd

5 ай бұрын

Secrets in the automotive industry are hard (impossible) to keep. And yes, most buyers will wait for the new(er) model. I did, waiting for the Highland before ordering, even though Tesla tried to offer some lame incentives on the outgoing model. But there's ALWAYS a new model just around the corner.😄

They should introduce the China-version worldwide for the same reason as the Juniper-version.

@robertfonovic3551

5 ай бұрын

In a shrinking EV market, it would make no sense to do what you suggest.

Tesla over promises and under (make that fails) to deliver on all. The Y was going to be the last vehicle I’d ever buy. Now options are starting to show up. My patience is done…….and no I don’t want the current Y. M3 sedan, no thanks.

@Paul-ow9dd

5 ай бұрын

Maybe your next car will now be the second last car you will ever buy? 😂

@bullshitbingo2259

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. They become a bunch of failed loudmouths and end up delivering average quality and specs for a premium price - A big disappointment!

Good! The fewer EVS the better!!

Their will always be a better version of everything. It’s how manufacturers keeps sales going year after year.

The Rivian R2 and R3 are much more attractive. And you aren't supporting the nut job Elon.

I already got my 2024 model y 48 hours after ordering it this month, February. I did not customize it. I think that is what is causing the delay for people and the state they live in. If you want 2025 model Y, then you gonna have to wait till next year or in July if you are a Tesla VVIP member. But it will be an early beta version, So it's better to wait.