Does the Cybertruck live up to the hype? Tom Moloughney puts it to the test in our 70 MPH Range Test. Read the full article here: insideevs.com/reviews/717680/...
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@kakashi35432 ай бұрын
A reviewer to trust : Tom!
@TheBowerbird2 ай бұрын
People love to hate on these, but the efficiency is really quite good all things considered!
@theflew
2 ай бұрын
Who would have thought you would get a better range if you made a more aerodynamic truck? The question is really towing. The aero will not help when you tow a brick behind it, and the range will suffer disproportionality compared to other "not as aerodynamic" trucks. It's all physics.
@TheBowerbird
2 ай бұрын
@@theflew Almost no one does long distance towing. It's a completely stupid metric that men like to get their dicks out and wank about. What are people going to tow and why would they be dragging it so far behind them? Why would it be an issue if you could just charge up in between?
@yusufcanaktas6929
2 ай бұрын
@@theflewStill, not that far from Rivian R1T
@jonathantaylor1998Ай бұрын
TOM....!! I've genuinely missed seeing you on the channel - it's great to see you back to doing the business, fella... 😎
@randygreen78712 ай бұрын
Over 300 miles at 70 MPH, very impressive! i've charged there a few times, I live in South Jersey. Thanks so much for sharing Tom.
@gone2plaid7722 ай бұрын
Wonder if you would have got close to the 318 miles if it had the wheel covers on 🤔. Nice video Tom
@mishafeydorov750Ай бұрын
Thanks! Great job
@jeffmcclure888Ай бұрын
Great vibes and great video!
@jackgreenstalk7772 ай бұрын
The car runs the last few miles on 0% until it dies to hit epa range. They make it say 0% early to prevent people pushing it and dying in the side of the road. Like how cars arent empty at E, they have a small amount of reserve fuel past empty
@MossMiniАй бұрын
Chevy got it. The 2024 Chevrolet Silverado EV has a range of 450 miles for the WT model with a full charge, and 393 miles for the WT model
@cohenlawgroup
Ай бұрын
The battery on the Chevy is nearly twice as large!
@michaelblue7852
Ай бұрын
@@cohenlawgroup And they are very far from profitable.
@8bajwa8
Ай бұрын
For 20k less than CT. @@cohenlawgroup
@viplav762 ай бұрын
There is really a decreasing case for the range extender, except when towing
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
Or when the temperature drops below 0 C, e.g. winter time.
@wademt
Ай бұрын
The use case for the range extender is towing.
@ch4.hayabusa
Ай бұрын
Or camping in northern Alaska/Yukon
@teslasnekАй бұрын
Did it really fall short though since it didn't have the aero caps on the wheels? 🤔
@LearningFast2 ай бұрын
That isn’t that bad actually. 300 miles is fine for range. I just wish the charging curve was better.
@JohnSmith-ux3tt
2 ай бұрын
300 miles x 40% is 120 miles of Tesla recommended range between charges. Let's see some test drives using that limitation.
@SkepticalCaveman
Ай бұрын
I won't even need to supercharge since I will never drive more than 5-6 hours a day, so even slow charging at 22kW/h is enough for me with a 1h lunch break and 3 shorter breaks.
@RxPharmer
Ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-ux3tt I would never charge up to 50% just to drop to 10% on a road trip. I always run like 75-3 on my cars lol
@summertyme5748
Ай бұрын
@@RxPharmerICE lovers are just on a perpetual cope as electric cars just keep coming, getting better and dominating more and more of the market, while they are still driving cars designed for the Eisenhower era. Notice how they stop complaining about pain at the pump long enough to rage on electric cars - but then immediately go back to whining about gas prices. Lol.
@josded
Ай бұрын
It will get better. Tesla is always cautious with the charge curves of new packs. Also, V4 superchargers are confirmed to be 350kW chargers. A few years ago, Musk said that Cybertruck would be able to charge on megachargers. Not sure if that will ever happen though
@RH-cv1rgАй бұрын
I think the tire pressure is accurate on the car. I've noticed on my car the tires facing the sunny side of the road will be a pound or two higher than those on the shade side.
@PlaidDad2 ай бұрын
Should do 2 testings per vehicle at a minimum. One during winter and one during summer to compare how temperature fluctuations affect the mileage range.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 ай бұрын
I'd love to, but getting access isn't always easy.
@AuralioCabal-nl8gi
Ай бұрын
As they say" Your mileage may vary".Driving styles ,weather , condition of car, terrain, heck I was told Washing exterior of that airplane can affect / give it more range.
@thomasjacques52862 ай бұрын
300+ miles and 4+ hours non-stop driving is far more than our bladders and aging bodies could tolerate. We use SuperChargers for BIO breaks and stop as needed. The car seldom ever needs to charge but one of us needs to stop. It’s a good start for such a large vehicle.
@UsLay1
Ай бұрын
Given your not usually going to arrive at a charger at 0% and probably not fast charging to 100% you probably won't be going 300 miles between stops.
@bearlemley
Ай бұрын
We buy vehicles for their capability. Pickups are an example. We don’t use them all the time for the heavy loads we can place in the bed just as we don’t drive our sports cars at full tilt all the time. I found driving through the Navajo Nation and driving through Thailand one can only drive supercharger to supercharger. If I still had my Ford Everest we wouldn’t be using the near 700km range in between bladder stops but it still did add flexibility. The argument that we just need 300 miles of range is just an excuse for a shitty range. They try desperately to sell you that 500km 300miles is all you need but is just a sales technique. Just like a bland interior is “minimalist” and ‘desirable’ when really it just means featureless. My bride can drive the 218km to our favorite beach hotel, and have 49% left. When I drive the same route, I have 23% left. We have a Model Y performance. If you have to drive on AP and chill mode to go anywhere, why would Tesla EVER make another performance model or a sports car. - it’s because people love to drive.
@WaktuPagiYuk
Ай бұрын
That's false perceptions in all directions. Learn the real world before making worse assumptions. It makes you part of bots (paid account) for propaganda. *Here the truth:* 1. You need to count the reserve 20% charge. 2. You do not charge the battery up to 100%. *100% - 20% - 20% = 60%* 60% of 300+ miles = 180+ miles. That's not including towing. Another real world situation: 1. Your time to charge that varies. 2. How fast the charging station. 3. In line to get your car charge in charging station. 4. Some station charge for parking. 5. Time lost just for charging.
@360degreemachinery
Ай бұрын
Listen if you want a Cybertruck or an EV go ahead with it. I could care less. I am 50, I just drove straight from Southern WI to Eastern, TN 731 miles non-stop. A little over 10 hours. I put a 60 gallon tank on my 2024 3500 and have around 900-1,100 mile range not towing. WHY? Well if you pull 15,000 lbs that number will drop. However we did tandem drive towing straight to Boston which is 950+ miles in a hair over 15 hours and one stop. 300 miles is OK for people staying local. Once you pull something or if you value your time even 500 miles is not enough. For instance why did I drive from WI to TN straight through? I wanted to get home to my family. As being on the road for business is only so much fun.....
@natenatarajan1866
Ай бұрын
Yeah right, the same old tiny bladder comment! Can you sleep 6-8 hours without getting up to pee? If yes, that's your capacity.
@commuterbranchline8132Ай бұрын
Great video!
@IDriveAnAudiАй бұрын
You had me for about 4 words until I heard “beautiful”! Then I laughed and watched a serious review.
@rogerjeck9281Ай бұрын
wow Tom, that is pretty good range all things considered! For the life of me I can't figure out what elon was thinking on the 500+ mile range for the tri-motor? musta thought they could solve for energy density per kilogram and volumetric energy density, and at such a low price point!! Thanks for what you do in the ev world brodda!
@davidr3246Ай бұрын
Great test.
@deyaorenАй бұрын
You are the boss of EV range test
@mannygee005Ай бұрын
it's a truck... on monster tires... on the highway. It did pretty good! (Note there will always be people who complain no matter what - they used to say it's not-- aerodynamic... but then later they'll say it got good range only because it is-- aerodynamic... can't win with those people)
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
Also the need of max range is rare ..
@jpscharged
Ай бұрын
There is zero winning for evs in the REAL WORLD. Anyone that has rented one for a week for a road trip will tell you these are just city toys.
@jeffw8218
Ай бұрын
Most (if not all) of the people who praise EVs either don’t have an EV, or they have an EV and a gas powered car already.
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
@@jeffw8218 do you own an EV ?
@jeffw8218
Ай бұрын
@@sudeeptaghosh Of course not! Do I look stupid to you??😂😂
@bobbyfaison19012 ай бұрын
I wonder how much more range it would get if it had non-off-road + reasonably sized tires/wheels. These 35s are just massive. Good showing on the range test tbh. Idk if Tesla opting to or the EPA forcing them, but the range figures have been getting very accurate lately on all the models. Great work as always Tom.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 ай бұрын
I'd guess about 20-25 with good all-season tires
@bobbyfaison1901
2 ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney has anyone confirmed what the smallest wheel/tire combo can fit on the CT is? All the other trucks have much setups
@danharold3087
Ай бұрын
You may recall a few months ago the EPA modified how the range was determined. Doing what is required. Not like the EPA singled out Tesla.
@jeffw8218
Ай бұрын
Basically the same amount and a small gain. How much do you expect for a truck that weighs 8,000lbs?
@bobbyfaison1901
Ай бұрын
@@jeffw8218 Wheels make huge difference in ranges. You can easily see ~5-10% efficiency improvements with smaller wheels/tire setups in basically any EV
@Scott-sm9nmАй бұрын
8:30 tire pressure -- AFAIK those TPMS sensors go to sleep somewhat fast after inactivity. Tesla did an OTA some time ago to actually tell you how many minutes or hours ago those numbers are from.
@chrissaffel9065Ай бұрын
I’ve got a 2017 P100D which is a blast to drive but is only good for about 170-200 freeway miles which is WAY off the shown 285 miles of range that is shown on the dash when it’s full.
@brandenflaschАй бұрын
I don’t envy a range test without Autopilot
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
It would definitely been easier if it worked.
@Eric-xp1klАй бұрын
Tom, the bad news is I can't find myself able to stick to 70 mph, in my state, you get run over. So, most of the time it's 78 mph which is 13-14% less efficient than 70. We just did another 900-mile trip in our Rivian R1T. At 78 mph, in rain, mid-50 degrees, w/22" wheels we got 276 miles. The best range we have gotten was last summer...it was hot and we took all 2 lane back roads and got close to 390 miles. We stopped at 370 but still had some juice left, thus my guesstimate of 390. 2.5 miles/kwh is very good for the Cybertruck given it's not so great aero.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
Yeah, the average speed varies a lot around the country. It's often difficult for me to even average seventy miles an hour here.
@Eric-xp1kl
Ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Tom, always appreciate your videos. I'm still torn over the Cybertruck. Range and the smallish battery is one of my concerns. In a realistic use case, 75-80 mph you would have been around 256 miles or so...in line with what Kyle C. got. For my use, it's not enough. We do too many road trips and Cybertruck's charging curve is not great either.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
@@Eric-xp1kl I get you. But if you put normal tires on it you'd add 20-25 miles.
@FranklinsoneАй бұрын
That is efficient for a big truck at 70mph. 318miles from Tesla estimate is probably from doing 65mph or a mix of highway and city.
@BlacklistMotorsportsАй бұрын
Can you try it again with regular SUV summer tires instead of the factory all terrain tires? I'm SURE it will affect range
@viplav762 ай бұрын
I some times like tests that are real-trip ones. They tell you what happened with fewer control factors. Model 3 LFP REAL-TRIP TEST after 18,000 miles | Spring Range & Efficiency Check kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJV4xpaReKeah6g.html But always love Tom’s presentation & ways of doing the tests, as well.
@andybak7575Ай бұрын
I wonder what the charge curve will be like with the range extender.
@OnTheSnap1Ай бұрын
Also firmware has improved efficiency since release
@RealRadNekАй бұрын
Reason why you don't have FSD yet on your Cyber Truck is because of the rear wheel steering. The tail path is different than a car and could create incidents. It will get figured out but it was not specified when.
@SpottedSharksАй бұрын
I love the CT. I'd never buy one but I love that it is in the world.
@mikeyc8139Ай бұрын
Tom, your range tests are the best! I sill frown a bit when you say things like "we used 120 kilowatt hour". It's OK (in fact more accepted) to use the plural "kilowatt hours". Otherwise, might as well say "We went 302 mile". 🙂 "120 kilowatt hours" correctly expresses that 120 units of the energy measure (each equivalent to one kilowatt being used for one hour) have been consumed. It's the standard and widely accepted way to express this in scientific and practical contexts.
@TassieEV2 ай бұрын
Question for you Tom, what happens if that central screen fails and goes totallly black and you can't change gear such as putting the car into park? I've seen posts where the central screen has gone black on a Model 3 but at least it still had the stalks to change gears what happens with this new system they have developed you just drive around the block until the car dies having run out of electrons?
@hoffmantnt
2 ай бұрын
There are P R N D buttons above the rearview mirror.
@cryptoico2647
Ай бұрын
Step on brake til car at full stop. Open door, car will auto engage to Park.
@jpmackinАй бұрын
Foundation series, only comes with three motors?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
No. The Foundation Series has both dual and tri-motor setups.
@berthogendoorn21332 ай бұрын
I wonder if that EPS range rating is based on All-Season tires?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 ай бұрын
340
@berthogendoorn21332 ай бұрын
Tom I love you new Cybertruck, always great content, thanks for your efforts!
@boostavАй бұрын
Fair test but as an fyi you left the vehicle outlets on, should have turned them off. Also focused suspension setting consumes less energy as that's the unergized valve position.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I don't think the outlet drain in 4 hours would even cost 1/8 mile - but you're right
@You.may.lack.perspectiveАй бұрын
Awesome 500 mile range for a $60,000 dollar EV, we’ll see how far demand falls, not laying off 14,000 people without reason
@DavidKempАй бұрын
No on ever states the EPA estimate is a COMBINED estimate. As in: its city and highway driving (an estimated amount that an average person would do). All highway is not COMBINED. As you know, EVs get better range when driving in the "city" at slower speeds. Find out what the EPA percentages are for "City" and highway driving is then replicate that to see if actual results match up. If you don't replicate this, the comparison is totally a misrepresentation.
@joshuagreen5820Ай бұрын
My RT be lucky to get that range at 70
@jpmackinАй бұрын
What was the reservation number for this truck please…
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I have no idea, sorry.
@sjvteslaАй бұрын
I'm good with this
@JRP3Ай бұрын
Since the epa range test is done until the vehicle stops moving the truck may very well have done it. Certainly would have been even closer.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it would have stopped at 308-310 miles. It had a little more than 2 kWh left, so it definitely wouldn't have gone more than 310 miles, IMO.
@ZzHasbrozZАй бұрын
If your not getting the range stated your not getting what you paid for.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I don't think you understand how range ratings work.
@ZzHasbrozZ
Ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney if you have to educate the public on range ratings you’ve lost the war.
@matthewhartley5334Ай бұрын
318 miles is for highway and city, not just highway. If you did half highway and half city, it would go way farther than the predicted 318 miles
@JAMESWUERTELEАй бұрын
Yeah tires change pressure due to temperature. Not a huge deal
@PeterWilliamson-nn9etАй бұрын
I would like to see EVs (all brands ) tested in extreme cold, and extreme heat. I watched the whole EV movement stop frozen this past winter in Chicago and it was colder than minus 20, even the charging stations were down, it’s on You Tube titled A LOT FULL OF FROZEN ROBOTS , ,or the other side of the spectrum in Arizona last summer they had a record setting near 30 days of 110F , which destroys lithium batteries, meaning you can’t use your car and you must keep it in an air conditioned garage, or your battery will be ruined, battery technology is advancing so fast that obsolescence, causes massive depreciation, this is undeniable and will be problematic when trying to secure car loans.
@Trk09drАй бұрын
My 2023 Kia will tell you to drive first before giving PSI . Drive a block shows the PSI. My f150 gives PSI soon as I turn on truck. Must be an accuracy thing.
@timothygreen1206Ай бұрын
I think 300mi at 70mph is impressive for a vehicle this size
@TravisONiPhoneАй бұрын
How much was this to rent from turo?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
$485/day
@jay4him1Ай бұрын
its weird how we have become so spoiled by autopilot
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
Not just Autopilot - BlueCruise, SuperCruise, and the others.
@kimchee94112Ай бұрын
Evs better mileage in city driving?
@lenm2857
Ай бұрын
Yes
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
You can go far or you can go fast, but you can't do both. 😄
@michaelblue7852
Ай бұрын
Stop/start is never good. Best conditions are going straight at around 30-40 mph.
@ajjbs7580Ай бұрын
Great impressions! 300 odd miles, 4hrs. of drive, what else does someone want? But pulling into the charging sight: What does the TOYOTA have to do with anything? Tesla, get the FSD running on the trucks! This is BS again, and again is fair to say because why is a customer paying for something that is promised?
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
May be BS but I hope/wish one day automobiles run by AI so that less and less deaths on roads 🙏
@danharold3087Ай бұрын
We now now that Tesla needs to gather new, presume all new, training data for the CT Your helping. This would have been very difficult to without customer trucks on the road.
@TravisONiPhoneАй бұрын
The bigger problem is the 10 miles of range its losing over night because it can’t sleep more then 7 hours
@rsamdАй бұрын
300miles is plenty. btw who cares about the range on an EV? only people who don't own one and the media. 😁
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
Yeah you can charge every night
@petestocksАй бұрын
Wow I’m surprised here, why is everyone else only getting 200-250? They must leave sentry mode on?
@jermainec2462
Ай бұрын
lol everybody else probably doing 75 80 .... like normal ppl 😂
@cryptoico2647
Ай бұрын
They don’t know how to drive 😂
@user-yl9sw4ed2fАй бұрын
Is 50% on the screen really 50% of the range is what I want to know.😊
@user-yl9sw4ed2f
Ай бұрын
Pretty spot on!😂😅😂
@briankleinschmidt3664Ай бұрын
lol. Why are cybertrucks all over youtube and none on the road?
@othoapproto9603Ай бұрын
Will don't come to LA if you want to go a constant 70
@JohnSmith-ux3tt2 ай бұрын
Forget the range test. How about the , use it as truck test, for a week.
@Roddy451Ай бұрын
एल्गोरिदम (Algorithm in Nepali)
@SkepticalCavemanАй бұрын
112 km/h is way to fast for me. I would only drive it at 80 km/h and that would extend the range quite a bit.
@bobbresnahan83972 ай бұрын
Great.
@lesjean8530Ай бұрын
Haha. The cyber truck is an already bad experiment gone wrong. You say cyber truck, sone say oversized freezer on wheels, others say eyesores, I say WTF is that junk.?
@utah710
Ай бұрын
Mini garbage truck
@iueofhoiwef2 ай бұрын
What exit? Go to Costco bring all the tyres down to 30psi then re-inflate to 50 with their free Nitrogen. Should help stabilise the inflation pressure. But ambient temperature will always affect PSI. Yep check PSI after drive…
@sarabeth8050Ай бұрын
Is there an option for a nicer interior? Looks cheap.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
Nope and yes, it looks and feels cheap
@ManuNarangАй бұрын
Imagine how much further it would have gone if the truck was actually designed to be aerodynamically efficient instead of being a rolling monument to one man's ego.
@boostav
Ай бұрын
It still is aerodynamically efficient, a Silverado EV has the same Cd.
@ManuNarang
Ай бұрын
@@boostav it's aerodynamic for a brick, sure, but Tesla usually does way better. Instead of punching down, punch up and compare against the Rivian R1T, which has a significantly better coefficient of drag vs the Cybertruck
@lazerusmfh2 ай бұрын
300 fully charged… 270 at 90%….. 240 after 50k miles at 90% …. It’s a bit low
@amazingcode20322 ай бұрын
Tesla claims 340 miles on their website, not 318
@saltmasterful
Ай бұрын
@ 5:05
@Sal3600
Ай бұрын
Pay attention kid
@SuperErikRossАй бұрын
Do me a favor do a real world test put 3 other people in the car and a bunch of junk in the back and then call me. Four people and some cargo adds up to almost half the rated payload Run the AC let's hear some music Run the speed of traffic like 80 or 90 miles an hour how most people drive on the freeway or the highway. Turn the lights on open a window let's see how far you get then Otherwise it's not a real world test. Don't even try to tow a boat or a car cause I can already tell you you're not gonna get very far.
@8bajwa8Ай бұрын
It is decent efficiency. Nothing to brag about. Truck is way smaller than F150 lighting. Cabin space is much less than Lightning. Half baked vehicle when compared to lightning features and price. Why would you bother to buy one. Or let's put this way would you buy this fiasco if it was not built by Tesla.
@777Outrigger2 ай бұрын
Your range test just shows what a liar Kyle Connor is. 😁
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
You mean the guy from Out Of Spec Reviews? You mean the guy who took 3 other people in the Taycan and drove it about 50 mph on the highway. You mean the guy who achieved over 400 miles in the Taycan and declaring it very efficient when its EPA range was in the low 200 miles? Yeah, Kyle Connor is a big liar.
@777Outrigger
Ай бұрын
@@KP-xi4bj I was joking.
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
@@777Outrigger I wasn't.
@777Outrigger
Ай бұрын
@@KP-xi4bj Just keep digging that hole.
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
@@777Outrigger For you? No problem.
@youtubeaccount9808Ай бұрын
Wow that thing is hideous. I'd be so embarrassed to step out of it.
@dandroid7619 күн бұрын
The second he said “beautiful” I stopped watching. Lol. Can’t be trusted.
@ba177ba18Ай бұрын
This is not exactly beautiful or worth 100k
@markmd9Ай бұрын
Damn, your miles numbers doesn't tell me nothing. When will you migrate to metrics international standard?
@kentbeck5015Ай бұрын
Looks like a cardboard box on wheels. Why would anyone buy such an ugly piece of junk?
@kevinn11582 ай бұрын
oh look it's a Clownmobile.
@itchynackers
2 ай бұрын
get away from the bathroom mirror already.
@kevinn1158
2 ай бұрын
@@itchynackers LOL. Enjoy your joke. It’s the spruce goose of the modern age.
@kevinn1158
Ай бұрын
@@itchynackers So you bought one. LOL.
@2009MigyFl2 ай бұрын
CyberFailure
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
Hate Tesla much?
@tomrybold2 ай бұрын
who cares about your videos Tom cause you first one with the cyberturck your short video and saying what your want to do with that truck so now i saw who cares causse of your first video
@laloajuria46782 ай бұрын
upvote for tom! downvote for ct content...
@canieto1
2 ай бұрын
Upvote this if you like Tom and the cybertruck
@Sal3600
Ай бұрын
What? You down vote cybertruck content?
@juliahello66732 ай бұрын
Stop doing range tests on EVs! Each EV has a different mix of efficiency for the speed, depending on type of motor, aerodynamics, and many other factors. I see so much FUD out there by the anti-EV crowd about EVs or a specific EV not meeting its stated range, and it’s because of videos like this.
@gelu88
2 ай бұрын
People need to know how far various cars go on highways, it's critical information.
@juliahello6673
Ай бұрын
@@gelu88 The EPA does objective tests. People off the streets who don't know how to conduct these tests shouldn't be doing them. Plus, what constitutes going on a highway? Some EVs may be relatively more efficient at highway speeds around 65 and others might be more efficient at highway speeds around 75. Some might do better at inclines than others. Some might do better on weathered pavement. etc.
@gl0cke99Ай бұрын
How can anybody refer to this monstrosity as beautiful?
@InsideEVsUS
Ай бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There's plenty of people who love how it looks.
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A reviewer to trust : Tom!
People love to hate on these, but the efficiency is really quite good all things considered!
@theflew
2 ай бұрын
Who would have thought you would get a better range if you made a more aerodynamic truck? The question is really towing. The aero will not help when you tow a brick behind it, and the range will suffer disproportionality compared to other "not as aerodynamic" trucks. It's all physics.
@TheBowerbird
2 ай бұрын
@@theflew Almost no one does long distance towing. It's a completely stupid metric that men like to get their dicks out and wank about. What are people going to tow and why would they be dragging it so far behind them? Why would it be an issue if you could just charge up in between?
@yusufcanaktas6929
2 ай бұрын
@@theflewStill, not that far from Rivian R1T
TOM....!! I've genuinely missed seeing you on the channel - it's great to see you back to doing the business, fella... 😎
Over 300 miles at 70 MPH, very impressive! i've charged there a few times, I live in South Jersey. Thanks so much for sharing Tom.
Wonder if you would have got close to the 318 miles if it had the wheel covers on 🤔. Nice video Tom
Thanks! Great job
Great vibes and great video!
The car runs the last few miles on 0% until it dies to hit epa range. They make it say 0% early to prevent people pushing it and dying in the side of the road. Like how cars arent empty at E, they have a small amount of reserve fuel past empty
Chevy got it. The 2024 Chevrolet Silverado EV has a range of 450 miles for the WT model with a full charge, and 393 miles for the WT model
@cohenlawgroup
Ай бұрын
The battery on the Chevy is nearly twice as large!
@michaelblue7852
Ай бұрын
@@cohenlawgroup And they are very far from profitable.
@8bajwa8
Ай бұрын
For 20k less than CT. @@cohenlawgroup
There is really a decreasing case for the range extender, except when towing
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
Or when the temperature drops below 0 C, e.g. winter time.
@wademt
Ай бұрын
The use case for the range extender is towing.
@ch4.hayabusa
Ай бұрын
Or camping in northern Alaska/Yukon
Did it really fall short though since it didn't have the aero caps on the wheels? 🤔
That isn’t that bad actually. 300 miles is fine for range. I just wish the charging curve was better.
@JohnSmith-ux3tt
2 ай бұрын
300 miles x 40% is 120 miles of Tesla recommended range between charges. Let's see some test drives using that limitation.
@SkepticalCaveman
Ай бұрын
I won't even need to supercharge since I will never drive more than 5-6 hours a day, so even slow charging at 22kW/h is enough for me with a 1h lunch break and 3 shorter breaks.
@RxPharmer
Ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-ux3tt I would never charge up to 50% just to drop to 10% on a road trip. I always run like 75-3 on my cars lol
@summertyme5748
Ай бұрын
@@RxPharmerICE lovers are just on a perpetual cope as electric cars just keep coming, getting better and dominating more and more of the market, while they are still driving cars designed for the Eisenhower era. Notice how they stop complaining about pain at the pump long enough to rage on electric cars - but then immediately go back to whining about gas prices. Lol.
@josded
Ай бұрын
It will get better. Tesla is always cautious with the charge curves of new packs. Also, V4 superchargers are confirmed to be 350kW chargers. A few years ago, Musk said that Cybertruck would be able to charge on megachargers. Not sure if that will ever happen though
I think the tire pressure is accurate on the car. I've noticed on my car the tires facing the sunny side of the road will be a pound or two higher than those on the shade side.
Should do 2 testings per vehicle at a minimum. One during winter and one during summer to compare how temperature fluctuations affect the mileage range.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 ай бұрын
I'd love to, but getting access isn't always easy.
@AuralioCabal-nl8gi
Ай бұрын
As they say" Your mileage may vary".Driving styles ,weather , condition of car, terrain, heck I was told Washing exterior of that airplane can affect / give it more range.
300+ miles and 4+ hours non-stop driving is far more than our bladders and aging bodies could tolerate. We use SuperChargers for BIO breaks and stop as needed. The car seldom ever needs to charge but one of us needs to stop. It’s a good start for such a large vehicle.
@UsLay1
Ай бұрын
Given your not usually going to arrive at a charger at 0% and probably not fast charging to 100% you probably won't be going 300 miles between stops.
@bearlemley
Ай бұрын
We buy vehicles for their capability. Pickups are an example. We don’t use them all the time for the heavy loads we can place in the bed just as we don’t drive our sports cars at full tilt all the time. I found driving through the Navajo Nation and driving through Thailand one can only drive supercharger to supercharger. If I still had my Ford Everest we wouldn’t be using the near 700km range in between bladder stops but it still did add flexibility. The argument that we just need 300 miles of range is just an excuse for a shitty range. They try desperately to sell you that 500km 300miles is all you need but is just a sales technique. Just like a bland interior is “minimalist” and ‘desirable’ when really it just means featureless. My bride can drive the 218km to our favorite beach hotel, and have 49% left. When I drive the same route, I have 23% left. We have a Model Y performance. If you have to drive on AP and chill mode to go anywhere, why would Tesla EVER make another performance model or a sports car. - it’s because people love to drive.
@WaktuPagiYuk
Ай бұрын
That's false perceptions in all directions. Learn the real world before making worse assumptions. It makes you part of bots (paid account) for propaganda. *Here the truth:* 1. You need to count the reserve 20% charge. 2. You do not charge the battery up to 100%. *100% - 20% - 20% = 60%* 60% of 300+ miles = 180+ miles. That's not including towing. Another real world situation: 1. Your time to charge that varies. 2. How fast the charging station. 3. In line to get your car charge in charging station. 4. Some station charge for parking. 5. Time lost just for charging.
@360degreemachinery
Ай бұрын
Listen if you want a Cybertruck or an EV go ahead with it. I could care less. I am 50, I just drove straight from Southern WI to Eastern, TN 731 miles non-stop. A little over 10 hours. I put a 60 gallon tank on my 2024 3500 and have around 900-1,100 mile range not towing. WHY? Well if you pull 15,000 lbs that number will drop. However we did tandem drive towing straight to Boston which is 950+ miles in a hair over 15 hours and one stop. 300 miles is OK for people staying local. Once you pull something or if you value your time even 500 miles is not enough. For instance why did I drive from WI to TN straight through? I wanted to get home to my family. As being on the road for business is only so much fun.....
@natenatarajan1866
Ай бұрын
Yeah right, the same old tiny bladder comment! Can you sleep 6-8 hours without getting up to pee? If yes, that's your capacity.
Great video!
You had me for about 4 words until I heard “beautiful”! Then I laughed and watched a serious review.
wow Tom, that is pretty good range all things considered! For the life of me I can't figure out what elon was thinking on the 500+ mile range for the tri-motor? musta thought they could solve for energy density per kilogram and volumetric energy density, and at such a low price point!! Thanks for what you do in the ev world brodda!
Great test.
You are the boss of EV range test
it's a truck... on monster tires... on the highway. It did pretty good! (Note there will always be people who complain no matter what - they used to say it's not-- aerodynamic... but then later they'll say it got good range only because it is-- aerodynamic... can't win with those people)
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
Also the need of max range is rare ..
@jpscharged
Ай бұрын
There is zero winning for evs in the REAL WORLD. Anyone that has rented one for a week for a road trip will tell you these are just city toys.
@jeffw8218
Ай бұрын
Most (if not all) of the people who praise EVs either don’t have an EV, or they have an EV and a gas powered car already.
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
@@jeffw8218 do you own an EV ?
@jeffw8218
Ай бұрын
@@sudeeptaghosh Of course not! Do I look stupid to you??😂😂
I wonder how much more range it would get if it had non-off-road + reasonably sized tires/wheels. These 35s are just massive. Good showing on the range test tbh. Idk if Tesla opting to or the EPA forcing them, but the range figures have been getting very accurate lately on all the models. Great work as always Tom.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 ай бұрын
I'd guess about 20-25 with good all-season tires
@bobbyfaison1901
2 ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney has anyone confirmed what the smallest wheel/tire combo can fit on the CT is? All the other trucks have much setups
@danharold3087
Ай бұрын
You may recall a few months ago the EPA modified how the range was determined. Doing what is required. Not like the EPA singled out Tesla.
@jeffw8218
Ай бұрын
Basically the same amount and a small gain. How much do you expect for a truck that weighs 8,000lbs?
@bobbyfaison1901
Ай бұрын
@@jeffw8218 Wheels make huge difference in ranges. You can easily see ~5-10% efficiency improvements with smaller wheels/tire setups in basically any EV
8:30 tire pressure -- AFAIK those TPMS sensors go to sleep somewhat fast after inactivity. Tesla did an OTA some time ago to actually tell you how many minutes or hours ago those numbers are from.
I’ve got a 2017 P100D which is a blast to drive but is only good for about 170-200 freeway miles which is WAY off the shown 285 miles of range that is shown on the dash when it’s full.
I don’t envy a range test without Autopilot
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
It would definitely been easier if it worked.
Tom, the bad news is I can't find myself able to stick to 70 mph, in my state, you get run over. So, most of the time it's 78 mph which is 13-14% less efficient than 70. We just did another 900-mile trip in our Rivian R1T. At 78 mph, in rain, mid-50 degrees, w/22" wheels we got 276 miles. The best range we have gotten was last summer...it was hot and we took all 2 lane back roads and got close to 390 miles. We stopped at 370 but still had some juice left, thus my guesstimate of 390. 2.5 miles/kwh is very good for the Cybertruck given it's not so great aero.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
Yeah, the average speed varies a lot around the country. It's often difficult for me to even average seventy miles an hour here.
@Eric-xp1kl
Ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Tom, always appreciate your videos. I'm still torn over the Cybertruck. Range and the smallish battery is one of my concerns. In a realistic use case, 75-80 mph you would have been around 256 miles or so...in line with what Kyle C. got. For my use, it's not enough. We do too many road trips and Cybertruck's charging curve is not great either.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
@@Eric-xp1kl I get you. But if you put normal tires on it you'd add 20-25 miles.
That is efficient for a big truck at 70mph. 318miles from Tesla estimate is probably from doing 65mph or a mix of highway and city.
Can you try it again with regular SUV summer tires instead of the factory all terrain tires? I'm SURE it will affect range
I some times like tests that are real-trip ones. They tell you what happened with fewer control factors. Model 3 LFP REAL-TRIP TEST after 18,000 miles | Spring Range & Efficiency Check kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJV4xpaReKeah6g.html But always love Tom’s presentation & ways of doing the tests, as well.
I wonder what the charge curve will be like with the range extender.
Also firmware has improved efficiency since release
Reason why you don't have FSD yet on your Cyber Truck is because of the rear wheel steering. The tail path is different than a car and could create incidents. It will get figured out but it was not specified when.
I love the CT. I'd never buy one but I love that it is in the world.
Tom, your range tests are the best! I sill frown a bit when you say things like "we used 120 kilowatt hour". It's OK (in fact more accepted) to use the plural "kilowatt hours". Otherwise, might as well say "We went 302 mile". 🙂 "120 kilowatt hours" correctly expresses that 120 units of the energy measure (each equivalent to one kilowatt being used for one hour) have been consumed. It's the standard and widely accepted way to express this in scientific and practical contexts.
Question for you Tom, what happens if that central screen fails and goes totallly black and you can't change gear such as putting the car into park? I've seen posts where the central screen has gone black on a Model 3 but at least it still had the stalks to change gears what happens with this new system they have developed you just drive around the block until the car dies having run out of electrons?
@hoffmantnt
2 ай бұрын
There are P R N D buttons above the rearview mirror.
@cryptoico2647
Ай бұрын
Step on brake til car at full stop. Open door, car will auto engage to Park.
Foundation series, only comes with three motors?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
No. The Foundation Series has both dual and tri-motor setups.
I wonder if that EPS range rating is based on All-Season tires?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 ай бұрын
340
Tom I love you new Cybertruck, always great content, thanks for your efforts!
Fair test but as an fyi you left the vehicle outlets on, should have turned them off. Also focused suspension setting consumes less energy as that's the unergized valve position.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I don't think the outlet drain in 4 hours would even cost 1/8 mile - but you're right
Awesome 500 mile range for a $60,000 dollar EV, we’ll see how far demand falls, not laying off 14,000 people without reason
No on ever states the EPA estimate is a COMBINED estimate. As in: its city and highway driving (an estimated amount that an average person would do). All highway is not COMBINED. As you know, EVs get better range when driving in the "city" at slower speeds. Find out what the EPA percentages are for "City" and highway driving is then replicate that to see if actual results match up. If you don't replicate this, the comparison is totally a misrepresentation.
My RT be lucky to get that range at 70
What was the reservation number for this truck please…
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I have no idea, sorry.
I'm good with this
Since the epa range test is done until the vehicle stops moving the truck may very well have done it. Certainly would have been even closer.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it would have stopped at 308-310 miles. It had a little more than 2 kWh left, so it definitely wouldn't have gone more than 310 miles, IMO.
If your not getting the range stated your not getting what you paid for.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
I don't think you understand how range ratings work.
@ZzHasbrozZ
Ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney if you have to educate the public on range ratings you’ve lost the war.
318 miles is for highway and city, not just highway. If you did half highway and half city, it would go way farther than the predicted 318 miles
Yeah tires change pressure due to temperature. Not a huge deal
I would like to see EVs (all brands ) tested in extreme cold, and extreme heat. I watched the whole EV movement stop frozen this past winter in Chicago and it was colder than minus 20, even the charging stations were down, it’s on You Tube titled A LOT FULL OF FROZEN ROBOTS , ,or the other side of the spectrum in Arizona last summer they had a record setting near 30 days of 110F , which destroys lithium batteries, meaning you can’t use your car and you must keep it in an air conditioned garage, or your battery will be ruined, battery technology is advancing so fast that obsolescence, causes massive depreciation, this is undeniable and will be problematic when trying to secure car loans.
My 2023 Kia will tell you to drive first before giving PSI . Drive a block shows the PSI. My f150 gives PSI soon as I turn on truck. Must be an accuracy thing.
I think 300mi at 70mph is impressive for a vehicle this size
How much was this to rent from turo?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
$485/day
its weird how we have become so spoiled by autopilot
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
Not just Autopilot - BlueCruise, SuperCruise, and the others.
Evs better mileage in city driving?
@lenm2857
Ай бұрын
Yes
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
You can go far or you can go fast, but you can't do both. 😄
@michaelblue7852
Ай бұрын
Stop/start is never good. Best conditions are going straight at around 30-40 mph.
Great impressions! 300 odd miles, 4hrs. of drive, what else does someone want? But pulling into the charging sight: What does the TOYOTA have to do with anything? Tesla, get the FSD running on the trucks! This is BS again, and again is fair to say because why is a customer paying for something that is promised?
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
May be BS but I hope/wish one day automobiles run by AI so that less and less deaths on roads 🙏
We now now that Tesla needs to gather new, presume all new, training data for the CT Your helping. This would have been very difficult to without customer trucks on the road.
The bigger problem is the 10 miles of range its losing over night because it can’t sleep more then 7 hours
300miles is plenty. btw who cares about the range on an EV? only people who don't own one and the media. 😁
@sudeeptaghosh
Ай бұрын
Yeah you can charge every night
Wow I’m surprised here, why is everyone else only getting 200-250? They must leave sentry mode on?
@jermainec2462
Ай бұрын
lol everybody else probably doing 75 80 .... like normal ppl 😂
@cryptoico2647
Ай бұрын
They don’t know how to drive 😂
Is 50% on the screen really 50% of the range is what I want to know.😊
@user-yl9sw4ed2f
Ай бұрын
Pretty spot on!😂😅😂
lol. Why are cybertrucks all over youtube and none on the road?
Will don't come to LA if you want to go a constant 70
Forget the range test. How about the , use it as truck test, for a week.
एल्गोरिदम (Algorithm in Nepali)
112 km/h is way to fast for me. I would only drive it at 80 km/h and that would extend the range quite a bit.
Great.
Haha. The cyber truck is an already bad experiment gone wrong. You say cyber truck, sone say oversized freezer on wheels, others say eyesores, I say WTF is that junk.?
@utah710
Ай бұрын
Mini garbage truck
What exit? Go to Costco bring all the tyres down to 30psi then re-inflate to 50 with their free Nitrogen. Should help stabilise the inflation pressure. But ambient temperature will always affect PSI. Yep check PSI after drive…
Is there an option for a nicer interior? Looks cheap.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Ай бұрын
Nope and yes, it looks and feels cheap
Imagine how much further it would have gone if the truck was actually designed to be aerodynamically efficient instead of being a rolling monument to one man's ego.
@boostav
Ай бұрын
It still is aerodynamically efficient, a Silverado EV has the same Cd.
@ManuNarang
Ай бұрын
@@boostav it's aerodynamic for a brick, sure, but Tesla usually does way better. Instead of punching down, punch up and compare against the Rivian R1T, which has a significantly better coefficient of drag vs the Cybertruck
300 fully charged… 270 at 90%….. 240 after 50k miles at 90% …. It’s a bit low
Tesla claims 340 miles on their website, not 318
@saltmasterful
Ай бұрын
@ 5:05
@Sal3600
Ай бұрын
Pay attention kid
Do me a favor do a real world test put 3 other people in the car and a bunch of junk in the back and then call me. Four people and some cargo adds up to almost half the rated payload Run the AC let's hear some music Run the speed of traffic like 80 or 90 miles an hour how most people drive on the freeway or the highway. Turn the lights on open a window let's see how far you get then Otherwise it's not a real world test. Don't even try to tow a boat or a car cause I can already tell you you're not gonna get very far.
It is decent efficiency. Nothing to brag about. Truck is way smaller than F150 lighting. Cabin space is much less than Lightning. Half baked vehicle when compared to lightning features and price. Why would you bother to buy one. Or let's put this way would you buy this fiasco if it was not built by Tesla.
Your range test just shows what a liar Kyle Connor is. 😁
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
You mean the guy from Out Of Spec Reviews? You mean the guy who took 3 other people in the Taycan and drove it about 50 mph on the highway. You mean the guy who achieved over 400 miles in the Taycan and declaring it very efficient when its EPA range was in the low 200 miles? Yeah, Kyle Connor is a big liar.
@777Outrigger
Ай бұрын
@@KP-xi4bj I was joking.
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
@@777Outrigger I wasn't.
@777Outrigger
Ай бұрын
@@KP-xi4bj Just keep digging that hole.
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
@@777Outrigger For you? No problem.
Wow that thing is hideous. I'd be so embarrassed to step out of it.
The second he said “beautiful” I stopped watching. Lol. Can’t be trusted.
This is not exactly beautiful or worth 100k
Damn, your miles numbers doesn't tell me nothing. When will you migrate to metrics international standard?
Looks like a cardboard box on wheels. Why would anyone buy such an ugly piece of junk?
oh look it's a Clownmobile.
@itchynackers
2 ай бұрын
get away from the bathroom mirror already.
@kevinn1158
2 ай бұрын
@@itchynackers LOL. Enjoy your joke. It’s the spruce goose of the modern age.
@kevinn1158
Ай бұрын
@@itchynackers So you bought one. LOL.
CyberFailure
@KP-xi4bj
Ай бұрын
Hate Tesla much?
who cares about your videos Tom cause you first one with the cyberturck your short video and saying what your want to do with that truck so now i saw who cares causse of your first video
upvote for tom! downvote for ct content...
@canieto1
2 ай бұрын
Upvote this if you like Tom and the cybertruck
@Sal3600
Ай бұрын
What? You down vote cybertruck content?
Stop doing range tests on EVs! Each EV has a different mix of efficiency for the speed, depending on type of motor, aerodynamics, and many other factors. I see so much FUD out there by the anti-EV crowd about EVs or a specific EV not meeting its stated range, and it’s because of videos like this.
@gelu88
2 ай бұрын
People need to know how far various cars go on highways, it's critical information.
@juliahello6673
Ай бұрын
@@gelu88 The EPA does objective tests. People off the streets who don't know how to conduct these tests shouldn't be doing them. Plus, what constitutes going on a highway? Some EVs may be relatively more efficient at highway speeds around 65 and others might be more efficient at highway speeds around 75. Some might do better at inclines than others. Some might do better on weathered pavement. etc.
How can anybody refer to this monstrosity as beautiful?
@InsideEVsUS
Ай бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There's plenty of people who love how it looks.
Great video!