As a Baritone player who has gotten into Trombone lately, that song terrifies me, just imaging trying to play it on a Trombone.

@Wizard_0_0

6 жыл бұрын

Girbot119 it's been done

@calebp.7251

4 жыл бұрын

Orion Lozano it’s crazy lol

@mikesosa1146

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear partner. I also was a baritone horn player who as of a few years ago got in Bb piston valve bass trumpet and tenor trombone. Wow. Would I love to play that song. I think I will achieve it in my dreams.

@LarryShone

3 жыл бұрын

You'd need arms like popeye!

@jaskamattila4481

Жыл бұрын

My trombone teacher had me play it on trombone when I was like 14

Dude I applaud you for being able to play that👏

@torstenlandsson9757

6 жыл бұрын

The alto horn is really easy to play if you play the trumpet or euphonium. You just need a pair of lungs and a basic understanding of how the valves work

@Aurora_Borealis_UK

3 жыл бұрын

I have played tenor horn

@beetong6241

2 жыл бұрын

전 74세 인데 코넷 고음이 너무 힘들어서 알토 혼을 시작했지요 너무 음색이 아름다워요

Well, I purchased a Tenor Horn and love it! It's tonal character is exactly what I was looking for. I've been layering it against trumpets and strings. And it sounds great! Such a nice warm tone!

Amazing explanation and demonstration! This is, by far, one of the best accounts on the music side of KZread. I wish more people were able to see how great this channel is.

@TrentHamilton

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I really appreciate it :)

That was some incredible playing!

You are an absolute beast man! I haven't played in a band since high school, I played the baritone and trombone for over 10 years and quit when I graduated. Keep up the amazing work on your channel

I have only started watching your videos for about a month now, but I do rather enjoy them. thank you for all your info and I want you to know every entertaining to watch. A very talented musician. ~SGT

@TrentHamilton

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@TheStickCollector

6 жыл бұрын

Same but for like 2-3 weeks

Excellent demonstration! Former Tenor horn player reliving the memories of my brass band days here and now making do with a Cornet! Thank you :)

Very educational and interesting video as always Trent! Glad you were able to clear up the differences for me

The alto horn in Mexican Banda music is used for the harmony/precusion parts of the music. The Alto Horn and the Suosaphone also used in this style of music make the the beat or tempo of the songs they're playing.

@casper1374

5 жыл бұрын

Asi es viejon

Love your videos!!! Keep 'em coming!

With all these horns, I'm surprised I've never seen you play the other kind of brass horn -- you know, the *French* kind.

@aidanchristensen1581

4 жыл бұрын

german, actually the french style of horn is only really used in well...... france.

I have no use for a tenor horn, but I want one....

Thanks for the turorial and the demo. Much appreciated.

that was beautiful, well played

The baritone sounds quite a bit different than a trombone to my ears. Less 'brassy.'

@Octovol

7 жыл бұрын

I agree, i can definitely tell the difference. But if you weren't playing especially loud they do have very similar characteristics. The trombone just has a very distinct sounds when you give it a proper blow :)

@johnries5593

7 жыл бұрын

It's supposed to. I find the sound of the baritone to be clearer and more melodic, and that of the slide trombone to be a bit nasal and raucous. They're useful for different things.

@aaronrobinson2121

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know; I've heard too many variants of tone in a trombone myself. My large-bore rose-colored brass-bell trombone sounds warmer than that one to me. I think the size of the bore and conical vs cylindrical both make more of a difference than the number of bends in the pipes.

@nathanbrinkerhoff5886

7 жыл бұрын

JonFrumTheFirst I do have to agree but not by much.

@stephenowens5091

5 жыл бұрын

brass has no defined sound

another good video Trent

This should be a relaxing baritone/tenor horn video and the first part of this song is perfect

Nice video, I'm joining a brass band Monday, so ur vids about the tenor horn have been great. All though I've noticed that everyone I know in America calls it the tenor horn, idk maybe we are the odd ones

Impressive playing!

That carnival of venice sounded amazing!

Great video, thanks

Thanks for the clear explanation Trent. I'm new to the world of brass banding (learning to play trombone) so everything is a mystery to me; I've only just grasped the idea that I always sit in the same place within the band, Doh! Off to watch some more of your vids :-)

Well done good man, well done!

I play b flat baritone love the sound

@thetempest71

6 жыл бұрын

Ikr?

I have an older style tenor horn (tubing over the valves as you showed) and also a baritone. To my untalented lips I find the baritone more suited to baseline "oompah" parts whereas the tenor horn can sound wonderfully round, full, lyrical. I think it will have the ability to be a glorious bridge between the higher register of my cornets and those of the baritone, if only I can re-learn enough technique from nearly 30 years ago. I love them both but, if I had to choose, I think the tenor horn would win my heart.

NICELY PLAYED TRENT.

I've just restored a John Packer 173 baritone horn. The main problem was getting the main slide unstuck. It took a one ton winch in the end. I now find it free blowing and playing well.

Honestly Trent mate! You're amazing! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D You can play all them brass instruments terrifically well! :D :D :D :D :D

Very interesting!

My favorite baritone horn was one with a screw-secured curved bell and a diagonal four valve assembly. If I ever saw this baritone horn on sale, I'd purchase it in a second. This when my embrasure is four decades neglected.

Awesome!

Wow. Awesome.

I played the Tenor Horn for 3 years in the Band of the Island of Jersey had a real good time. I was pretty good at it to, I left the island though and obviously had to stop. I really want to pick it back up though.

Absolutely fabulous demonstration: Let us know something about the Euphonium next time please. Even mentioning the range on these would be appreciated.

Thanks great 👌

I started out in the 2nd/3rd cornet role like most kids do, switched to baritone when I was diagnosed (?) with a need for orthodontic braces, and stayed with the baritone for the rest of my years in that band. I was definitely a quieter sort of person, and played too quietly too. But at the same time, I liked my position in the band because I was comfortable being unseen and largely unheard, even if I was a capable player. I do come from a family of Trombone and Cornet players, completely different personalities than me. I guess I was the odd one out, especially since I too believe that valves do not belong on a Trombone.

thanks dunky!

I had a friend who would play the alto horn; he would switch out one of the tuning slides for an F crook and cover French horn parts. The two of us played horn duets together for fun, (I, transposing on the trombone).

Low brass instruments are freakin' cool. I however am on the opposite side of the spectrum. I play violin, Alto sax, and piccolo trumpet. Props to anything tenor or below though.

I guess I should explain my reason for asking this question. My entire life I have made a living as a violinist. But I also played trumpet for 30 years. I have my own recording studio. I've been tracking horn parts. And since I'm only comfortable playing a valved instrument I've been looking for a instrument that falls into that specific range for recording. I thank you guys so much for your comments and advice.

@christianraduns9700

7 жыл бұрын

George Mason Try the mellophone.

You left out the Melophone, which looks like a French horn, but it has the same range as the alto/tenor eflat horn. the valves are not rotary but look like trumpet push valves, also missing is the double bellel euphonium with either 4 or 5 valves.

Trent, you have some chops!

the Tenorhorn is your instrument. I also listened to the Baritone Euphonium coparision, there you found a better tone on the Euphonium, but i guess you would be also able to find a smoother tone on the baritone if you practice more on it. Very inspiring videos, thank you.

I live in America and we still call the Bb tenor horn the Baritone... They put out such a smooth sound and add so much more depth to the band.

I’ve got a Besson Sovereign Tenor Horn, it was my dads it’s mine but I play cornet/trumpet but mine is a different shape still to the 2 models you demonstrated during the video, is it just ne

Anyone else hear the police car at 3:40?

@TheStickCollector

6 жыл бұрын

Jesse Sugarman-Weir I noticed when I went back thanks

It'd be cool if you could get your hands on a double bell euphonium and do a video on that

Its interesting that your "lower" instruments read treble clef. I played tenor trombone in school and we were taught to read it in bass clef.

@cbfedge5593

4 жыл бұрын

In the UK, orchestral trombone is Bass, marching is treble. I only read bass because I'm a string bass player mainly. What a faff

@TheMankind51

4 жыл бұрын

It’s Brass Band tradition for every instrument except Bass Trombone and Percussion to read transposed treble. Although some Bari/Euphs read Treble in the states when they switch from a different instrument.

@mambojazz1

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMankind51 Regular tenor trombone also reads bass clef.

@freddi27

Жыл бұрын

@@mambojazz1 bit of a late reply but in british brass band, tenor trombone reads treble. However, in military bands and orchestras, they read bass. However if orchestral or military players feel more happy reading treble, they can request it and vice versa.

Since i play baritone once i can play my part i like to mess around with other instruments parts and kind of play everything. I make a point of learning every solo that we have in every piece by memory

can you do a video on the tenor trumpet I can't seem to find a video on it

I've seen another configuration of the Eb tenor horn before. It was particularly unusual; valves were front action, and the bell was curved forward. Kind of like the old Bach baritone horn you sometimes use in your videos. I don't think any manufacturers make tenor horns in that configuration anymore though.

@TrentHamilton

8 жыл бұрын

You'll find them in continental Europe mainly under the name of an Alto Horn

Actually, in the American Tradition, the Eb horn is called an Alto Horn, while the Bb horn is still called a Baritone horn, unlike in the Continental Tradition, where the Eb horn is still the Alto Horn, while the Bb horn is the Tenor Horn.

@Rhakor

7 жыл бұрын

Max Burger-Roy in Germany we say : Es Alt-Horn , Tenorhorn in B and the bigger softer one we call Bariton

@maciekszczech

7 жыл бұрын

And in Poland there is E-flat Alto, B-flat Tenor- with 3 valves and B-flat Baritone with 4 valves Or: Alt Es, Tenor B, Baryton B :D

@TheBandMan

6 жыл бұрын

No love for the Euphonium?

@matthew88mo54

6 жыл бұрын

The Band Man I do.

@joshuagahan6985

6 жыл бұрын

The Eb horn is actually called a 'Tenor Horn' in the British tradition. A Wagnerian Tuba in Bb is also called a 'Tenor Horn', much to everyone's confusion. A Bb horn is known as a 'Baritone'.

I´m curious: sometimes you use the fingertips for playing, sometimes the knuckles: just no difference for you (my teacher pressed me to use the tips. Always.)

Wow they sound so similar to my ears! (I know literally nothing about horns or music theory)

What is the mouthpiece size like on the tenor horn? Compared to trumpet and baritone?

okay, am I crazy, or is the music that's displayed, despite the treble clef on the page , actually in tenor clef? like for instance, I'm following along while he's playing (on the baritone) and he plays an F. and on the music, the note is placed above the top line, like it would be in tenor clef? but... the key is in treble?? and the clef is treble?? but the notes are in Tenor???? I'm from hamburger land (USA) so maybe I'm missing something? I've noticed the same thing on other videos where he plays euphonium/baritone.

I've lost my baritone horn mouthpiece and I need to buy a new. Is there a seperate mouthpiece to baritone and tenor/trombone, or are they the same?

Please play the German Tenorhorn of Bariton from the militarybands .. Love your Videos

i accidentally bought an alto instead of a baritone. do you know where can i buy a mouth for my alto? and how to deal with the clefs?

Great video! But how is it going with your organ?

They call the Baritone a Valve-Trombone? So what would they call the instrument Juan Tizol played?

What about an alto horn? I don't know anything about it, but I've seen scores calling for it. Also, I've seen old photographs of marching bands that have something like euphoniums (euohonia? What is the correct plural?) where the instruments were on the players' shoulders, pointing backwards. I'm guessing to be sure the soldiers matching behind can hear the music? What do you know about that?

ok. so. when I was in high school, my music teacher came in one day all giddy. she had found a small horn, similar in appearance to that e flat horn... but it was in F. I've never seen another one. it's like they don't actually exist.

I have a round stamp besson sovereign tenor horn from the 80s☺️

do they take the same size mouthpiece

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They are both beautiful, melodious horns, they deserve to play the lead more. And that piece was written by a sadist! Looks bloody impossible!

Great video, I'm a primary saxophone player looking to learn a brass instrument, which one would be best for a beginner? If anyone else in the comments could help me, that would be very appreciated

@janell8372

5 жыл бұрын

E flat alto/tenor horn would be in the same key you are use to if you play the e flat saxophone (not that it matters too much) but trumpet/cornet would be easier to get your hands on.

Always love it when you play Carnival :) Also what instrument is that variation originally suppose to be played on?

@PatrickOBrien1999

8 жыл бұрын

Trumpet I think

@ThePobb111

8 жыл бұрын

Cornet actually but similar enough to trumpet

@codyleonard9798

8 жыл бұрын

+Patrick OBrien yes on trumpet

@johnnytrumpet7178

7 жыл бұрын

Coronet, my good sir, is the original instrument

@codyleonard9798

7 жыл бұрын

thank you

Trent, Thanks for the video! I'm currently working on this solo on trumpet for a competition and I was wondering what advice would you give me for working the more technical passages in the piece. Thanks in advance! - Michael R

@ThePobb111

8 жыл бұрын

He has done a video before on working on the carnival of Venice so it may be useful for you to look back at his old videos and watch that

@Miyamotospoop13

8 жыл бұрын

+Bryce Porter thanks. I appreciate the response, but that video was for arbans carnival. I'm currently working on clarkes carnival of Venice. Also in that video he plays trombone, I'm a trumpet/cornet player.

Is this the Tenorhorn that Mahler asked for in his 7th symphony? Or would that Be the Bb Baritone?

You said that the euphonium is ib Bb, an octave below the trumpet: would that put it into the same register as the bass trumpet? How then would the euphonium, tenor trombone, and bass trumpet compare? And then chuck the mellophone into the mix.

@TrentHamilton

Жыл бұрын

Bass trumpet, euphonium, and tenor trombone are all in the same register.

@nathanheyns7135

Жыл бұрын

@@TrentHamilton Thank you!

We Americans call it the baritone horn as well. The Spanish MAY call a baritone horn a tenor horn, though.

I have one of those from around 1915. Don't have a mouthpiece for it, though...

Hey Trent, maybe you can help me. I collect brass instruments for fun. I ordered an inexpensive Alto Horn in Eb from India (as I had a good experience buying a cornet and valve trombone from there before.) The alto horn does indeed resemble the smaller size of your alto horn, but when I played it, it most certainly has Bb as its fundamental and overtone series. I also noticed that the mouthpiece is approximately the same diameter of my valve trombone's mouthpiece (albeit more tapered conically than the trombone's, which is more cup-like.) Even though the vendor claims it is an Eb Alto (and never had any complaints from others before) how can you explain this? The instrument definitely seems smaller than a baritone to me, but seems to be the same pitch as baritone. Would this be like a "pocket" version of the baritone (it does not have any extraordinary wraps, however.) If I am using the wrong mouthpiece, would that give it a lower pitch? Actually I should say, that if I push the tuning slide all the way in it is in C whereas all the way out it is Bb (mid position is B-natural, in fact.)

@TrentHamilton

8 жыл бұрын

Hey, can you send me some photos? TrentHamiltonNZ@gmail.com

WOW!…

Hello Trent! Could you tell me the difference between the tenor horn mouthpiece and the baritone mouthpiece? Thank you

@TrentHamilton

8 жыл бұрын

The baritone mouthpiece is slightly bigger. That's about it.

@feelgoodcharlie3822

3 ай бұрын

@@TrentHamiltonIs the shank on a tenor horn also the same size as a small shank trombone?

Why do you read treble clef on the baritone? I play Euphonium, which is similar, and I read bass clef

@TrentHamilton

8 жыл бұрын

In the brass band all instruments, except for bass trombone, read treble clef.

@BrickLogicStudios

8 жыл бұрын

+Trent Hamilton oh okay thanks

@MrInitialMan

8 жыл бұрын

Even the tuba?

@TrentHamilton

8 жыл бұрын

MrInitialMan Even the tuba.

@MrInitialMan

8 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Here in North America, that's only the case with the G Tuba (AKA Contrabass Bugle). The rest of the tuba music I encountered was in bass clef--though that was in the school band.

In an orchestra, would these horns be interchangeable with a trombone?

Is the tenor horn you have there dented on the bell?

@mal2ksc

8 жыл бұрын

Not dented, creased as if it were set down on its bell and then fell over or got leaned on. I had the same thing happen with a marching French horn, and seeing this makes me want to fix it just like I had to fix the marching horn.

I understand. So, here's a follow up question. I'm looking for something in the "lower than trumpet" range. But I wanted something with a bit more of the French horn tonal character. Any suggestions?

@Octovol

7 жыл бұрын

If you wanted an instrument that performs the closest role of a french horn...probably euphonium. The tone and feeling is also more similar than say a baritone

@MrInitialMan

7 жыл бұрын

Wagner tuba?

@mossmelon

7 жыл бұрын

mellophone?

I'm sorry about your father passing away. May he rest in piece.

Who saw the dent in the bell at 0:18?

Alto horn is one step from French horn though

Can you get an Eb alto (or tenor..) in a "trumpet shape"? I'm not talking about mellophone.

@thetempest71

6 жыл бұрын

Marching band baritone would be the closest to that though it's bigger than a horn.

Man I'm just now realizing that the Eb horn is called a tenor because the Soprano of the British brass band is in Eb I feel dumb

i consider the baritone, and other kinds of valve trombones as training wheels for people who played other kinds of brass instruments who want an easier way to play trombone

I LIVE ACROSS THE POND,USA, AND I CALL IT A TENOR HORN.

Where do you buy your instruments? I'm looking to get a baritone, preferably a marching baritone

Quite the dent in that tenor horn

how much did you pay for your tenor horn? I really want one. I play tenor sax and baritone sax. and I want to get into brass as well. I preferably want something lower with a bigger mouth piece than a trumpet. and i don't want a French horn. and suggestions that I can get used for cheap?

@eirianjones2204

7 жыл бұрын

Snekles you can get a none trigger trombone for cheap but I suppose you would want a valved instrument

@snekles6449

7 жыл бұрын

preferably a valved yeah. but I would be open to a trombone. as long as It doesnt break the bank. ( but is still good quality tho)

@mossmelon

7 жыл бұрын

A good starter would be baritone, euphonium or even trombone as they're sort of in the middle of everything. (ex: middle price range, middle amount of air, middle of the amount of players) or that might just be my inner trombonist speaking

@thetempest71

6 жыл бұрын

Try a horn or a baritone even if it's a hire.

@dottybrown5911

6 жыл бұрын

The top tenor horns are £4000 but they are amazing

lindo som

6:33 You switched to the tenor horn.

alto horns are used instead of french horns in many situations

hey Trent is the bell of the tenor/alto horn bell bent?

@TrentHamilton

8 жыл бұрын

The bell in the video is damaged. In brass bands, however, we don't use the horns with a bell tilted forward.

@codyleonard9798

8 жыл бұрын

+Trent Hamilton ok plus I have a request for you to play the swan on on your contrabass trombone or your Bb bass/tuba please.

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Hey Trent, i love your vids, but i have a question. Would you suggest me getting a Euphonium if i play Trumpet? My mom has been hesitant about getting one but recently has (i think) been a little more loose. My sister made the point that i could march with Trumpet and then play the Euphonium for concert band. What do you think? Thanks, Kuiper

@ethanspradling

8 жыл бұрын

As a fellow euphonium player who switched from trumpet, I would recommend it. I have loved playing the euphonium ever since I switched. It also wondnt hurt to keep playing trumpet even after you switch.

@kuiper921

8 жыл бұрын

Ethan Spradling thanks!

@MasonAtha

8 жыл бұрын

I mainly play bass tuba. I switched after about three years on trumpet. I made the mistake of not practicing trumpet like I should have when I started tuba. If you're planning on playing trumpet at all after you switch to euphonium (which I highly recommend), you need to keep your trumpet chops in shape. This is crucial. Euphonium will be fun for you, and I can't recommend it enough!

@kuiper921

8 жыл бұрын

+Mason Atha thank you!!

@jesusmaquieira3334

8 жыл бұрын

I'm a euphonium player, and I really don't reccomend you that, the embochure change is very big, and you will sound very bad

is a like the difference between a cornet and a flugelhorn yes.

How do you scan the music to put in the corner of the video?