Ten years of Tokamak Energy: the rapid progress of a private fusion company
Ғылым және технология
The end of 2019 marked the tenth birthday of Tokamak Energy. The years have flown by for us, but there has been a lot going on as a private company in pursuit of fusion energy!
Come back with us through the years as we talk to founders Dr David Kingham and Dr Mikhail Gryaznevich about the early aims and ambitions of the company, the progress that has been made over the last ten years, and what they hope for the future.
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I'm not sure how this company is still below most people's radar - you're literally designing/building the future of energy. The next 10 years will be very exciting.
@henrytjernlund
4 жыл бұрын
As far as the public goes, SpaceX has raised the bar for what people expect from a pushing-the-envelope company going from start up to it's first version of its commercial system in just under 10 years. But, they aren't doing as much in the way of new physics. But this is what the public is now expecting.
@dudeskidaddy
4 жыл бұрын
Read ‘sun in a bottle’ and you’ll know why.
@henrytjernlund
4 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin McCann What is so great about what SpaceX is doing is that they are doing it out in the open. There are updates from one source or another nearly every day. We, the public, don't get barely a glimpse of SLS.
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
They promised this 50 years ago bud^^.....wake up dude. Look up the Safire Project...the Sun is an Electric Plasma not a Fusion Reactor. #Electricuniverse
@dreamdiction
4 жыл бұрын
Investors will buy control of this project - and bury it. Small scale energy independence does not fit with the environmental pretext of the globalist plan for a borderless world controlled by a one world government.
I'm almost 64 years old and the promise of fusion has always been just "around the corner" but it looks this time it might really be. Keep up the great work and maybe I'll get to see it in my lifetime.
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
Don't be an idiot. Look up the Safire Project.....the Sun is an Electric Plasma not a Fusion reactor. #Electricuniverse
@ronusa1976
4 жыл бұрын
www.aureon.ca/ How does our Sun work should be the question.
@SerBallister
4 жыл бұрын
I think the "around the corner" thing exists because the idea of fusion needs selling to investors. You cannot guarantee this technology would work, but you can't tell investors that either. I'm not saying making energy from fusion is impossible, but we can't say it is 100% possible with today's best technology either.
As a 2nd year applied physics student this makes me so excited! What a beautiful device.
@ronsmith1364
4 жыл бұрын
future employment prospect tokamak safety engineer bol
@mudkip_btw
4 жыл бұрын
@@ronsmith1364 I saw they have a spot open for PhD plasma control engineer, that sounds like a dream job to me! Hopefully tokamaks and similar fusion capable devices become the future.
World needs your success :) That is as exciting as new space era and space launches to me.
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
Idiot. A productive [and cheaper] experiment is the Safire Project #Electricuniverse ...btw the way there is far more Space in your head than out there.
@patrickthepure
4 жыл бұрын
@@blaze1148 Who hurt you?
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickthepure ....nobody hurt me^^.....i'm just trying to wake people up to the Truth.
@Dosun424
4 жыл бұрын
imagine researching stuff like this on a moon base or something
@Mallchad
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine insulting somebody for speaking positively and being generally excited about somebody. I'm pretty exstatic that we're finally getting close to feasible fusion energy.
Someone will do it and when it happens, everyone will do it. I'm watching closely for the winner to cross the line and change the world in a moment of time.
Well done. I'm looking forward to see you progress into successful power generation in the near future.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
@@tokamakenergy6400 We have had it for about 100 years - but Governments have suppressed Teslas papers and tech [apart for high level military ofc] Fusion is a huge waste of time, money and effort. The Safire Project has a far better future [potentially if not suppressed ofc]. The Sun is an Electric Plasma not a Fusion Reactor. #Electricuniverse
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
@Pool Bal exactly - they are chasing Unicorns and Rocking Horse poo.
@fuzzywzhe
4 жыл бұрын
@@blaze1148 *"The Sun is an Electric Plasma not a Fusion Reactor."* FFS - what in tarnation is an "electric plasma reactor"? Fusion is when two atoms combine to make a heavier atom. Basically, 2 hydrogen atoms = 1 helium, well if they are both deuterium anyhow. WTF would be an electric plasma reaction?
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzywzhe ....let me help you a little.... kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZ6tpLqao8-_idY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHZ90MqJdqm8n8o.html ....there....hope it wasn't too painful.
I just love to watch those videos of yours showing the progress that's been made. And I'm looking forward to see all the steps in the way for commercial fusion.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
:-) Thanks. We'll keep them coming!
Good luck! At this rate we'll have fusion power in as little as 30 years!
@bannor99
4 жыл бұрын
I'll sure it'll take them a few years less than 28 years, give or take a decade.
@memespeech
4 жыл бұрын
good meme
@NathansHVAC
4 жыл бұрын
30 years away forever.
@AvNotasian
3 жыл бұрын
@@NathansHVAC ITER got tired of this meme, so they are going after the walnut with a sledge hammer.
Great! Theoretically according to MIT researchers , with a magnetic field of over 14 T will be possible to achieve Q>1 net energy gain , the higher the better, based on their data and knowkedge. I hope it will be with ST F1 ! Great work!
@zapper7776
4 жыл бұрын
Which researchers?
@KrustyKlown
4 жыл бұрын
achievable in just 30 years!!
@mauroscimone8584
4 жыл бұрын
BigCooter.com no
@SuperDave-vj9en
4 жыл бұрын
@Zapper777 The researchers!
@gameresearch9535
4 жыл бұрын
Check this out. Google search "Graphene as a high field magnet", look at all the articles on the first page results. And then ask them if they are using Graphene as their high field magnets. Go to my channel, find Technology Research, go there. Go to the playlists area on my other channel. Find a playlist called "Graphene Twistronics". After that, find a playlist called "Videos with important info to get around my channel". And then "Graphene playlist". Check all the playlists on the channel after that, don't forget to check each playlist description for more. And check the video info under each video that I upload.
Brilliant recap of the first 10 years. I hope that this gets picked up by some of the clean energy channels on KZread and beyond! Looking forward to more videos on ST40, STF1 and all aspects of making fusion a standard part of our energy generation mix.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you for making this video available. The public needs to see what is being done here.
The whole world is cheering you on and hoping for success 🙌
Great! It's so necessary to find new ways of technique and of organization. Here both is achieved. Congratulations! 👍❗
God bless you all and thank you for all your hard work .....
Amazing and super exiting to be living in a time like this where talking about fusion energy is not just science fiction but an approaching reality. Keep it up and thank you for your work!
@AvNotasian
3 жыл бұрын
The really interesting part is the potential to use fusion energy for propulsion in space, having a fuel with incredibly high energy density allows for constant thrust navigation. Effectively would mean travel times to distant locations would be below linear. ie a place twice as far may take only 1.6 times as long to get to. I hope I live long enough for the tech to be used this way, I would donate my lifes savings to it.
Congratulations, another 30 years to go!
It's incredible to imagine all the adjustments that are made between a prototype and its final iteration.
My uncle would have been proud of your achievements and dedication.
Amazing work! Looking forward to the near future.
Love watching these tokamak innovation and faster progress of fusion energy.
@MrZoomZone
4 жыл бұрын
yeah - great comedy.
Spectacular progress from your special team. I wish you all significant success with your spherical sun. More details regarding the means of power extraction would be most welcome. It has been terribly gratifying to watch the proverbial 50 year time horizon shrink to 10, which brings ultimate success inside my own possible lifespan.
Had it been 10yrs already?? Wow! Keep up great work and content.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
I know! Can you believe it?!
amazing! i always wondered if the tokamaks built by other researchers had to be so gigantic. evidently not!!! i look forward to hearing about your power generation successes.
In ten years from now, it is certain that fusion energy will be practical. Go back 10, 20, 30 years or more and you will see that it always has been and always will be. When I was in high school in the early 60's fusion energy was "just around the corner" and it "would solve all our energy needs." I, for one, learned a long, long, long time ago not to hold my breath for such things. The only fusion energy machine that we can ever tap into is the furnace within our own sun and it has powered life on the earth for over 4,000 million years.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
All the energy man will ever need is right overhead! 🤭🤭🤭🤭
Very well presented history of your company... congratulations on your 10 years mark and best wishes for future. Looking forward to hear about more achievements.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
Congratulations! Best luck in the future.
I love the vision and expansive thinking of the Slavs.
@eiliannoyes5212
3 жыл бұрын
Expand, please?
Dude, that multi reel super conductor tape winder thing at 16:03 that could be a whole video. What a beautiful machine.
Thx a lot. Keep going !! We need you !!
Congratulations on your acheivements thus far, and best wishes for the future. Your story is an inspiration to those of us who work in STEM.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
Great brains, great people, great company.
So happy to see science brain power at work! Good luck guys! Happy plasma cycles!! ;)
Fantastic progress TE. Loving the videos.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Beautiful story. This is making something of your career.
Great work! Good luck to you all in the future.
Hearing the stock jazz drums..... Today in the BA test kitchen, Claire recreates nuclear fusion using gourmet ingredients!
@Joiner113
3 жыл бұрын
"Sohla, can you help me with my molecular beam epitaxy..."
Great work and really exciting for the future
Beautiful! Please start filming your experiments and publishing them - you'll get more investors interested. It's awful that I only now found out about you. Kids in high/elementary schools need to hear about this.
@tokamakenergy6400
3 жыл бұрын
We're glad you found us :-)
Exciting stuff. 15 million degrees wow.
incredible. i love it!!
Team, Your efforts are deeply appreciated and you all are clearly the rock on which the future of all humanity shall stand. Be that on Earth, in orbit, the Moon, or that of the site of the first Martian colonies, our collective successes will all be a direct result of these most incredible achievments leading to the luxuries "over unity" will obviously afford all of mankind from this generation forward. I look upon your work in awe and and with the eagerness of child-like anticipation of that day, which now seems rapidly approaching, when our collective future will have become more secure than ever before in history. All as a direct result of your obvious drive, will, and desire to snatch from the depths of science fiction ethos and deliver unto mankind its greatest, long-term chance to see the wonderments of what the Universe has in store for us. Though woefully lacking by comparison to the monumental accomplishment of that which it is offered, I speak for the rest of us in offering each of you our deepest of thanks. SIncerely and without hesitation, Max Laing CEO / Project Development ActionCore, Inc.
24T! That really is good enough to make power in a sensible-sized machine. It really is looking very good for proving this can actually work. Then we get to the really interesting questions for whether this is going to contribute significantly to the world's energy supply: what's the LCOE cost, and what are the practical issues of running a plant (like what does irradiating the tokamak lining for months on end do to it?) Anyway, top work all. I wish you further success at this impressive rate.
@chrisparkin6894
4 жыл бұрын
Check out MITs ARC reactor, they have a lot of ideas on this including FLiBe to both shield the equipment and act as a tritium source.
i like the idea of a plywood fusion reactor you get put in the back of your car. eat that ITER
@Microbex
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I see what you are doing. ;D It was so last WW out of fashion.
@MrZoomZone
4 жыл бұрын
It just about sums up the truth of where they are with this dead-end BS.
Bril work guys have that ambition! if it looks viable at the end of the day get in there and make that magic, from what I can see here it looks bob-on. While it makes me wonder how awesome my e-bike would be with these rare earth magnets :-o I bet I could time travel on these! Keep up the stunning work! Small stuff rules!
I'm gonna build my own version of a tokamak. I've got some plywood and with the right team. We will conquer this tech.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
I'd say you have an equal chance! 😈
I'm an Entreprenur, its impressive you can get funding for 10+ years and ongoing...
Always keep pushing on ! For the human race. Best safe wishes from a Delft University of Technology Engineer!
With all the depressing news at the moment, it's heartening to see people working on something which could be a technological game-changer, with potentially huge benefits for the whole of humanity. The very best of luck to you!
@blaze1148
4 жыл бұрын
Don't be an idiot. .....they promised Fusion Energy 50 years ago....it is dead end Science. Look up the Safire Project.....the Sun is an Electric Plasma not a Fusion reactor. #Electricuniverse
@kayakMike1000
Жыл бұрын
@@blaze1148yes, but solar neutrinos are observed. Electric plasmas don't make neutrinos, fusion does.
Just 20 more years :)
Congratulations to this teams on this globe how will solved the problem of energy for the hole world. And achieve a more greatest milestone in the future of human beings.
Very cool, save the world!
As I'm watching this it brings to mind some of the work that David Adair has built and supposedly is working on.
@MrZoomZone
4 жыл бұрын
yeah - it is like a giant perpetual motion scam - except the numbers are bigger, the hype is bigger.
@1Earl100
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrZoomZone and I can't help but believe it's real:) ? At 68 years old and all the stuff I've seen in person and experienced whether it was real or not it seems like it to me. I'm curious to think the fact that you made that comment you're aware of something more than most people.
That is why ITER takes time to build and get it up and running.
¡¡Great Video!! Congratulations
Energy in the grid in the next ten years! God speed, and thank you for all your work.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
At the rates the infrastructure is collapsing it won't matter! .🤬
Fusion is determined by pressure and temperature. Temperature is determined by velocity of the ions. Velocity is determined by magnetic field and the scale of the tokamak, which means the smaller the scale, the stronger the field has to be to keep the ions in their curved path. And there is a limit to the strength of the field a certain superconductor can stand before it looses its superconductivity. So the bigger the tokamak the higher the temperature that is achievable with currently available materials. So how can a small machine outperform a bigger one? - Would be my question. My second question is how high the pressure is in this machine.
Exciting times 👍🏼
YOU GUYS ROCK
There is so much innovative potential in GB. Hope that the financial sector does not suck up so much talent
SADLY , as an Engineer in another field ... I have always thought that only so much efficiency can ever be achieved at a given scale. Good luck is the best I can offer.
@Shoshun2
4 жыл бұрын
Well that was a bit gloomy....
Just think for a moment and I am glad you're excited about 'fusion'. If the energy expended was on Thorium then we would be ridding the world of our nuclear waste stockpiles, slowly to be sure but without making any more fissionable material. Not nearly as sexy are fusion but we would cut the use of petroleum to about a tenth of what it is now. The reactors could be small and decentralized as well. Anyhow, seems to be a pipe dream to pick up from the work done in the 50's where it was scrapped because it would not produce a bomb. Good luck you guys.
@zazethe6553
4 жыл бұрын
yeah, it is extremely sad this isn't being implemented in large scale. All the stored nuclear waste is just free fuel to be converted into less radioactive waste.
@magnushem5130
4 жыл бұрын
I thought they did have a running thorium reactor at some point? But it was cancelled. I don't remember the details but I don't think it has only to do with politics
@phi9249
4 жыл бұрын
@@magnushem5130 There are difficulties to overcome with molten salt but these are hardly as difficult at reproducing the Sun in your basement.
Man, that sounds like fun.
good luck with your project !
Godspeed.
I too would fall in the category of people who instinctively thought fusion was something that needed scale to be efficient. But after this video I think I'm starting to believe in the fact that having an uniform high T field will be easier to achieve in smaller tokamaks. Not yet sure where stellarators fall in this spectrum of fusion energy. Maybe those designs will be greatly helped by the high T magnets Tokamak Energy has developed?
Hope they can make this work
Fusion is the future !!
Go go go go!
Keep pushing the importance to "build the team", and your future is assured; you have future proofed your concepts as a result. Well done.
Amazing
Best of luck to you guys in your physics and engineering R&D. You seem to have a grounded way of not over-promising to have a commercial reactor in 5 years but to take a realistic first principles approach and finding investors who are in it for the long game.
@tokamakenergy6400
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, we're serious about this.
What a shame there wasn't better communications ... I was that Senior Production Engineer for over 10 years at a Kiwi company that builds bespoke HTS systems... on the day I left I was winding HTS coil number #1000. Our speciality was cryogen-free 20K systems... typical in the 5 Tesla range. The first turn-key HTS 5T system I built in 2006 is still running today in a lab in Germany.
This is the best of UK PLC
propulsion dynamics will be interesting to see how it plays out.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
Only a hundred years till the Epstine drive! (TheExpanse) 🤭🤭🤭
great results. such a wonderful inspiration for young people. we'll need these power plants for interstellar space travel.
Tok a mak! Tok tok a mak! 30 more years to go"
What an exciting times we're living in, witnessing scientific revolutions in practically every science field. Keep on the great stuff!
@smallbluemachine
4 жыл бұрын
The String theorists look at each other distraught.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
???
That story is kinda incredible. Noice one boii's. :)
Is this "spherical tokamak" the same design as the "spheromak" found at LLNL in Livermore, California? If different, how does it differ?
@dandelobo9284
2 жыл бұрын
I think it comes rather from the original ones: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak
To me its the relatively small size that makes the most sense. Better for iterative performance increases and fine tuning. The much larger projects might be how the process needs to be to work at scale and maintain efficiencies, but to me when things are at the just getting it to work stage they seem more rigid in design and it either works or fail large with little opportunity to rework the concept.
Exciting video. Please tell us more about STF1: date, technology, comparison with other net-gain projects like ITER? Thanks!
It's always 10 years until controlled fusion energy, by the way.
@EugenethePhilostopher
4 жыл бұрын
@@panaccoman no, it's still 10 years until they get controlled fusion.
@420frankp
4 жыл бұрын
@@panaccoman we have fusion. Just cant get the same amount of energy out as they put in.
@Phelan666
4 жыл бұрын
lppfusion is the most sober and cheap approach, but it gets little funding because it's very simple and not "sexy" or viscerally impressive.
@quakfrosch2298
4 жыл бұрын
@@420frankp Wow, Frank, how exceptionally useful. We can sink in a ton of energy and get molecules to fuse. Great achievement, well done. Except nobody cares except scientists because what we actually need is a reactor that can produce vast amounts of energy extremely reliably, safely and cheap.
@420frankp
4 жыл бұрын
@@quakfrosch2298 are you on drugs buddy? Wtf is your deal?
Graphene can be used as high field magnets if you google search "graphene as a high field magnet". Also Graphene as a super conductor, check my other channel for more info in this link. Go to my channel, find Technology Research, go there and find a playlist called "Videos with important info to get around my channel". ------------------ Q. Can Graphene be produced fast enough in large scale amounts and cheap enough? A. Yes, check my other channel in the playlist from the steps above in this comment, and the rest of my other channel. ------------------ Please check my other channel on Graphene and Quantum Technologies, and literally all of my other channel. They should be using Graphene and Quantum Computers, and so much more. You will see why on my other channel.
Is the plasma stability affected by vibration at all? Are portable tokamak reactors currently feasible in that regard even if dampened? (e.g. a flying or sailing craft)
Excellent work! I have a question- Is there a theoretical limit to how small a spherical tokomak can be and still “break even”? Small enough to fit into a gas turbine, ramjet or scramjet? If so the implications would be huge.
Im here from 1970, has it been 10 years yet?
Let's just sit back and watch "Ten Years" turn into "Twenty Years", and "Thirty Years" and on, and on. We just need MOAR TAXPAYER MONEY!!!
@joellewis6086
4 жыл бұрын
What about 'privately financed' do you not understand?
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
Like Elon Musk!
Sun in a bottle. I think that was a book title. Decades later we are still waiting for results.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
Which will never come, stars are electric, not nuclear, #ElectricUniverse
@TheGamingg33k
4 жыл бұрын
@@richardscathouse Dont know who gave you your physics degree. But most of the reactions that happen in the sun are nuclear. Sure I can say electric when electrons are involved. But the most important thing that helps these chain reactions happen is the force of gravity.
I had an old friend who worked at Harwell on tokamaks in the early 80s. I asked him then how long before these things start producing more energy than they consume. He reckoned about 2010, at the latest.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe 2020...... 😈🤭🤭🤭
@tennislite
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardscathouse , Maybe 2030
That's what real job satisfaction looks like.
Thank you for all your amazing work keep it up! Can I come to visit sometime love to talk about farms of the future and applications?
didn't expect to hear Latvia mentioned nice
❤️
Any use of applying liquid surfaces for plasma facing components for you guys? Or is it not a problem when magnetic field is strong enough?
Impressive. I wish I could invest
Blimey you never know they might be powering the world in ten to twenty years.
This is awesome and very exciting as an up and coming physics graduate! Do you have links With Birmingham University?
Keep Going, ...
You have a good sense of direction with this much needed form of power, i wish you all the greatest successes. Not to mention how this will help the environment.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
Cheaper, easier, safer just put up orbital solar power stations! At 20,000+ miles the sun never sets! 🤭🤭🤭
@11:45 .. when people say things like: "hotter than the center of the sun" .. or: "more than the number of atoms in the universe" - I lose interest, because: we have no instruments to test such claims, it's exaggeration at best .. but well done to you-guys for achieving what you did; it's inspiring.
@richardscathouse
4 жыл бұрын
Stars are not fusion, they are electric, #ElectricUniverse why fusion doesn't work, it's a bad theory! 🤭🤭🤭
@gameresearch9535
4 жыл бұрын
I know you said that you lose interest when people mention "hotter than the center of the sun", please check the Parker Solar Probe, Nasa is very close with it and can collect the data for the sun, the Parker Solar Probe is protected from a lot of heat and radiation. The Parker Solar Probe can go 450,000 miles per hour, and it's already done amazing readings near the sun, there's also another probe from Nasa on the way to the sun that's even better supposedly. Go to my channel, find Technology Research, go there. Find the playlists area on my other channel for all the playlists. Watch all videos from top to bottom in that order. Check for a playlist called "Nasa's idea for the moon, the fastest we've ever gone in space, space propulsion and technologies so far". ------------------------------------------------------------------ Also about the mention of "more than the number of atoms in the universe", I thought this might be interesting to watch, please watch the videos from top to bottom. After you watch all videos, be sure to check out the info, articles and other links in each playlist description on my other channel. This video doesn't seem to allow me to send links, I will give steps. Find a playlist on my other channel called "Videos with important info to get around my channel". Find my other channel's Quantum Computing playlist. This will talk about the number of atoms in the universe, but I do feel you should learn from this. After that, check these other playlists in this order, Quantum Teleportation, The Quantum Internet, Photonic Computing, Spintronics, Quantum Sensors, Archer Materials working with IBM on Graphene with Quantum Computers for accelerating to room temperature, playlist. Also check the Graphene computers for home and starships, playlist. And the Graphene Twistronics playlist.
@gameresearch9535
4 жыл бұрын
Something else to check out, do a youtube search for the Voyager 1 and 2 probes, supposedly they are outside our solar system and in interstellar space, "the space between solar systems in a Galaxy".