Maybe we should differentiate between "bands I don't like" and "bands that are overrated".

@rwm4738

26 күн бұрын

Yeah, pretty much.

@BBlooger

26 күн бұрын

Exactly this. It's usually just a bunch of tiresome people who want to snipe at bands they don't like. Poor dears, having to endure music they dislike, must lead hard lives.

@jongilbertson2106

26 күн бұрын

For me to really dislike a band it not only has to have bad music, but it has to be popular enough that I keep hearing its bad music, thereby causing me to really hate them. I have seen bands at bars whom I did not like, but I only heard them once, and I do not even remember their names. I can’t really hate them or say they are overrated.

@hughjass1044

26 күн бұрын

The two are all too often used interchangeably.... and incorrectly... as are their opposites. I've long said that underrated is the most over used and misused word in music. How many times have we heard - ">insert-name-here In nearly all cases, if you played 5 random musicians for them playing unfamiliar music, they couldn't pick out the one who they claim is the greatest.

@AbbeyRoadkill1

26 күн бұрын

There is no way to differentiate because music is all subjective.

Basically a people’s list of ‘ I don’t like/ understand them, so it must be crap ‘

Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple often hated by people born in the 80s erm wtf are they talking about.

@pkmcburroughs

26 күн бұрын

My daughter was born in 1989 and she loves Led Zeppelin.

@BBlooger

26 күн бұрын

A lot of that comes from trashy NME writers of the time.

@747jono

26 күн бұрын

​@pkmcburroughs Mozart was born in 1727 Beethoven same century, does that mean because they were born before myself I shouldn't like them which I do. Hate these people that discover a band new release from a classic band example Uriah Heep then say oh I haven't got time to go back to the rest of the bands catalogue Wtf. Thats the idea isn't it. You find a band and say have they any other good albums. Hats off to your daughter

@dohanddonuts5716

26 күн бұрын

The reason why I got into Led Zeppelin? Beavis and Butthead.

@AntonXul

26 күн бұрын

I was born in the ‘80s and the vast majority of my Spotify playlist I compiled that’s over 1200 songs and counting are overwhelmingly ‘70s era rock. I love that era of music. It’s easily the best era for music.

If The Beatles had stuck to their early 3 minute pop songs then they would have been overrated. BUT, when you consider how they developed (Abbey Road, Revolver, St Peppers) in such a short space of time to describe them as overrated is ridiculous.

@canalesworks1247

26 күн бұрын

By Hard Day's Night they were already showing signs of real growth. They had a very short early period. In fact their entire run of original material is at best 8 years.

@scottanthonyweidner8692

25 күн бұрын

@@canalesworks1247 See, one of my personal central musical criticism tropes is that if The Beatles died in a plane crash after A Hard Day’s Night, they’d still be the band that completely revolutionized pop/rock music. “She Loves You” is the rarely-acknowledged most impactful single of all time.

@canalesworks1247

25 күн бұрын

@@scottanthonyweidner8692 Agreed.

@elvisleeboy

25 күн бұрын

​​​@@scottanthonyweidner8692You're completely on the mark, not least because A Hard Day's Night was completely self-composed, which was unprecedented at the time. That album is the reason that artists who don't write their own material are now maligned, when in fact it was the norm before that. Even brilliant originals like Buddy Holly and Roy Orbison padded their albums out with covers.

@Littlebigbot

23 күн бұрын

Rubber Soul

The Beatles being the most overrated is a claim by people who do not understand music or history.

@atlasking6110

26 күн бұрын

The world's first Boy Band is something...I guess.

@QuoPaperPlane

26 күн бұрын

Some of us only know what we like. We don't need to understand why we don't like The Beatles and history isn't going to make us spin their vinyls. Bland is bland, insipid is insipid is Beatles to many.

@zuni1919

26 күн бұрын

@@atlasking6110 I will assume that was supposed to be a slight. Good job...I guess.

@zuni1919

26 күн бұрын

@@QuoPaperPlane You do not have to like classical music to understand the influence and ramifications that continue to reverberate in modern music today. History is supposed to teach us, which should be objective. If you believe the Beatles are insipid, that is subjective. Understand that and become a bit more understanding of the original question.

@PevsnerOG

26 күн бұрын

I think it's fine to say "I don't like The Beatles" , we all have our own tastes obviously. If, however, you just say "The Beatles were rubbish" then I think music isn't for you, try stamp collecting.

After reading a couple hundred very entertaining comments, I wonder if the label "overrated" is being confused with "overplayed" or "oversaturated?" At 68, I'm old enough to pretty much remember it all when it was shiny and new, but there are certain bands that are on perpetual rotation on classic rock stations. For example, I am sick to death of Stairway To Heaven, but I also struggle to think of a better crafted rock song (as opposed to rock n' roll). There is a reason why Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and the Beatles are oversaturated, at least for those of us who heard these songs at least 100,000 times. But overrated? Not at all. For me, it is about genres. The Velvet Underground is overrated to me because they seemed to be more a New York City thing than a national band, and the Cool Kids listened to something edgy and different than the usual stuff on the radio. I never was into punk or grunge, either. My tastes tend to run towards musicianship, which is why I love prog and mainstream hard rock. But everyone has different tastes.

@tombeithemist5255

26 күн бұрын

Have to agree on Stairway....can't stand it!

@markkumanninen6524

25 күн бұрын

You're my man, pal. Don't need to write an entry - you did it.

@sgw8903

24 күн бұрын

Interesting take. I am also 68 years old and think between us we may epitomise the dichotomy. I enjoy musicianship as much as anyone but if it doesn't have a genuine edge of rebellion against the MOR and the insane society we all inhabit, it's just not rock and roll.

@HieronymousCheese

24 күн бұрын

Since I've Been Loving You, live version. Nothing displays Jimmy Page's superb musicianship more than this track in my opinion (and there's a lot of competition). He's not playing his guitar, his soul is howling into the night.

@retromom5421

24 күн бұрын

Bingo! You left off Free Bird as another song- not band in the heard 100,000+ times.

People need to know the difference between Popular and overrated. Some bands, like Zeppelin, the Beatles and Beach Boys are popular for a reason

@boogerbrains138

25 күн бұрын

Like the majority of mainstream artist?

@georgestein8211

24 күн бұрын

Spot on.

@sgw8903

24 күн бұрын

Yes, promotion of "the star system" has been an extremely effective sales tool since the very early days of Hollywood.

@jasonjames6383

23 күн бұрын

Beach Boys are overrated. Beatles & Led Zep no. But these are all subjective opinions.

@Pumper_of_Maws

23 күн бұрын

@@jasonjames6383 The Beach Boys are overrated to people who have never listened to them. If you know the beach boys as the Pendleton wearing surf rock band, yeah they suck, if you know them as the genre defying, boundary shattering, mind altering band of the mid 60s and mid 70s no. Brian Wilson is among the greatest composers of all time, anyone who isn’t musically illiterate will tell you that and with confidence.

Even if the Beatles are not your favorite band, which may be very probable, I can't take anyone seriously if they say the Beatles are overrated. I just can't.

@briangray00

25 күн бұрын

We had breakfast bowls in my house (in 1966/7) with four Beatles faces. You may present that to the overrated camp, as an example of everyone else being wrong.

@frankmachin5438

25 күн бұрын

I hear ya…

@asdfzxcv3617

24 күн бұрын

They are too acclaim, they are not so good as most of the '70's band.

@jj-pi9cu

24 күн бұрын

And it was thanks to them that we had The Rutles

@andrewwrench1959

23 күн бұрын

The Beatles music has no swing, it is soulless. Has anyone ever danced to a Beatles song bar 1 or 2 songs? It all sounds incredibly dated too. Compare the catchy and admittedly danceable Lady Madonna from 1968 to the quite similar I'm Waiting For The Man from 1967 which has a layered groove. Personally I'm not one for ranking music, people should just listen to what they like, and in the proportion that maximises their own enjoyment. In that regard more or less every band, album and song is over rated because terms like "essential listening", are bandied around. They are just another band that can be happily absent from a record collection of hundreds of albums and the owner wouldn't miss them one bit. In my opinion there are only two things related to the type of music this channel discusses where one should not use the over rated label, the albums Dark Side Of The Moon and Rumours. These have been purchased in large numbers in multiple countries continuously since their release over 50 years and almost 50 years ago respectively. In contrast Sgt Pepper relies on 10 multiple anniversary years and that publicity to get sales. The much more recent Thriller, widely documented as the biggest seller has dropped off considerably in the last decade and thus maybe much more of its time; it is outside the scope of this topic but a good reference point. When it comes to streaming the only classic rock artist that makes an impression is Queen, so there is an argument to be made they get a pass too as they are clearly reaching across multiple generations.

Rush ? Floyd ? The damn Beatles ? Man, is nothing sacred

@johncalvo1743

25 күн бұрын

No. No it isn't!

@docpangasinan

24 күн бұрын

@@robtyman4281 No one agrees. They already made great stuff before Stairway to heaven even came out. The three albums prior to it are all classics. And after the 4th album, there was still more than many other famous bands can boast.

@Sanks247

24 күн бұрын

@@robtyman4281no! Looks like you’re on your own. Black Dog, Rock n Roll, Ramble On, Ozone baby…and 100’s others. Probably the greatest rock band ever.

@THE_bchat

24 күн бұрын

​@@Sanks247 Counting only their studio albums, Zeppelin did not release 100 songs. I understand loving a band, but being factually accurate matters.

@Sanctified57

24 күн бұрын

Not to mention the greatest Rock band of all time, Led Zeppelin. Laughable poll

It would have been good if those slagging off Rush, Floyd etc told us what they thought were great bands. I suspect it would give us a good laugh.

@MultiCappie

18 күн бұрын

New Kids on the Block.

@63mckenzie

17 күн бұрын

@@MultiCappie 🤣🤣

Completely agree with defence of Rush, but just when were Rush actually appreciated to the level to be over rated? If anything they are under rated. I just think people are so used to living in the internet these days we get a skewed idea on what general opinions are. Most people I know wouldnt even know who Rush were!

@AbbeyRoadkill1

26 күн бұрын

Totally agree w/your comment about people who live inside the internet having skewed views about what's actually popular in the real world. I'm not saying Rush isn't popular, but on the grand scheme of things, they're nowhere near Zeppelin, Floyd, or The Beatles in popularity.

Neil Tennant recently recalled sitting with Bowie at the Brits where they were performing Hello Spaceboy. They watched Oasis rehearsing. At the end, Bowie leaned over and said one word to Tennant. “Parochial” and walked out. 😂😂

@mori1bund

26 күн бұрын

And as always Bowie was right. ^^

@heavymetal6910

26 күн бұрын

@@mori1bund right up his own arse, but right in thinking oasis stank

@samanthab1923

26 күн бұрын

Love that 😂

@Lloyd1885

26 күн бұрын

And l would have said to Bowie.... 'Er, whats that mean son?'

@garyizzard839

26 күн бұрын

@@Lloyd1885 😆

When someone tells me they don’t like the Beatles or think they’re over rated, I immediately know that the reason is simply because they’ve never bothered to listen to them.

@stevenweint7893

26 күн бұрын

I am a big fan of the Beatles. The Beatles were truly great and influential, but they are also overrated. For me, The Lads hit their zenith with Revolver. The later albums were not nearly as important and good. In an interview, John Lennon said that the last four Beatles albums weren’t necessary at all, and all four members had better solo albums, compared to the last four Beatles albums. Lennon particularly disliked The White Album. He also said the Abby Road medley was lazy and rubbish. Great band, but overrated.

@bonesjackson81

26 күн бұрын

I don't hate them and appreciate their contributions but I just do not like their music. I like While My Guitar Gently Weeps. But could just be the Clapton solo.

@tobbex7372

26 күн бұрын

Eleanor Rigby. Thats it. The rest is crap.

@robertglisson6319

26 күн бұрын

@@stevenweint7893, interesting coming from Lennon, who released some Godawful albums. One could make a single album of top songs from all four of their members' first albums, and it wouldn't touch anything the Beatles made collectively after Revolver. Given that John and Paul were the songwriters of 80% or more of the albums, which ones from McCartney and Plastic Ono Band (I won't bother mentioning Two Virgins) would fill an album? George would have two great songs from All Things Must Pass, Ringo has nothing from Beaucoups of Blues, Paul has very little solid material from his debut, which leaves John with...what? Mother, God and Working Class Hero? Even Let It Be and Magical Mystery Tour was stronger. Indeed, make a double album from them, with appropriate contributions, and while much stronger than the mythical single album, it wouldn't compare to Sergeant Pepper, The White Album or Abbey Road...

@dj71162

26 күн бұрын

I've listened to all of their albums and I think they are overrated. It is okay to criticise something, particularly something that is by its very nature subjective.

So how many bands do you think formed after The Beatles first Ed Sullivan appearance? You might not understand their importance unless you were there. The music world basically revolved around them and what they were doing from 1964 to 1970. I was lucky enough to see that show and get on the ride. Not everything was great but a lot of what they did were "firsts". What we have now does not exist without them. And may I add they were no slouches when it came to their instruments.

Music is subjective and we all like different things. I love ELP and Yes but, can appreciate why people dislike them. I dislike The Clash, Pulp and Madness but, they must have all had something as so many people loved those bands. Let’s just appreciate all forms of music/genres and the joy it gives us all. Music is the ultimate pleasure in life.

@666troymcclure

26 күн бұрын

Yeah, what he said. My criteria is if the music makes me dance in my head, feet or heart, then I like it. To quote JayZ, "if you don't like my music you can hit fast forward."

@handebarlas6248

23 күн бұрын

Yes but saying The Beatles even Zepp are overrated is simply being ignorant. Clearly they do not really listen!!! oh well, such opinions do not count anyway..

@marklockey4434

23 күн бұрын

@@handebarlas6248The contributions that The Beatles and Led Zep made to music should never be underestimated.

@rolandowagner7775

9 күн бұрын

Oh man, Madness is one of the most UNDER-rated bands of all time, especially in the states where most only know them by one or two songs. Madness had 17 top 10 and 31 top 40 hits on the UK charts. Most only know them by their "nutty ska" sound but they had a SLEW of perfect pop songs after that first album. They had a lot of different styles, so of course some you may not like. Listen to Sun and the Rain, One Better Day, Grey Day, Tomorrows Just Another Day, Never Knew Your Name, Rain, Ironshirt, Forever Young, Africa, You'll Lose a Good Thing (remake) for those interested in discovering this band.

I remember a quote from someone saying " Never trust somebody who dislikes animals and the Beatles"

@mhitson7483

11 күн бұрын

Well I love animals …

@martinklein4651

10 күн бұрын

@@mhitson7483 Never mind 50% ain't bad.

@marksomething

Күн бұрын

Tell me whyyyyyy

@martinklein4651

Күн бұрын

@@marksomething Tell me why. Great Beatles song. I think the quote is self explanatory.

@marksomething

Күн бұрын

@@martinklein4651 I meant where you probably heard the quote

Sigh. The Beatles are hands down the most influential band in rock history, and their chart success speaks for itself. You can't say they're overrated unless you're just being contrarian. I have time for all the others on the list, although Rush fans will be mad since they all identify as underrated band lovers.

@modernrelic7092

26 күн бұрын

Agreed. Some people think it's edgy to bag on the Beatles. You don't have to like them, but you can't deny their importance. Don't like the Beatles? That's fine, but I bet the members of your favorite bands do.

@bdc1117

26 күн бұрын

@@modernrelic7092 I'm not sure I've ever heard a famous musician disrespect the Beatles. When you're admired by everyone from ABBA to Ozzy, you've done well

Ah, youth. These bands are only overrated for those who weren’t around when their influence became felt in music. It’s only “overrated” now because you grew up knowing about them, and music has continued to move in new and different directions. But the fact that we still talk about them and listen to their music today tells you something: It was influential then, is influential now…and is damn good music.

@colinswain6945

16 күн бұрын

Music has continued to move in new and different directions because bands, especially the Beatles, laid down the original format, to so many musical genres. Saying they are overrated shows, they just don't get it.

Someone said The Beatles saved music from being boring. So true so true.

@stevenweint7893

26 күн бұрын

Nonsense.

@tuskact4overheaven873

26 күн бұрын

That quote fits the velvet underground better 😁

@michaeladkins6

26 күн бұрын

@@stevenweint7893 You look at the landscape before and after the Beatles.

@Habsta71

26 күн бұрын

beatles are not rock.. next!!

@FuturePast2019

26 күн бұрын

Saved Rock and Roll too. With very innocent lyrics like She loves You, PS, I love you, I want to hold your hand. PS But overrated too. Come on.

The Beatles and The Beach Boys were one of the most important bands, ever. There experimentation with different types of music, instrumentation and themes changed how music can be made. In the mid to late 60s they competed with each other on who can make the better album.

@malthuswasright

26 күн бұрын

The Beatles and the Beach Boys are two bands, not one.

@dohanddonuts5716

26 күн бұрын

@malthuswasright You feel better typing that? I clearly, and I'm sure most people who read my post and actually knows music that they are two bands. Don't be that person.

@sgw8903

24 күн бұрын

Who TOLD you that? ;)

@dohanddonuts5716

24 күн бұрын

@@sgw8903 Told me what?

@malthuswasright

24 күн бұрын

@@dohanddonuts5716 Yes I do thanks. And I see the original comment is now corrected, so it obviously had an impact! Accuracy costs nothing.

Foo Fighters more relevant than Nirvana? FF is only relevant because it is all that is left of Nirvana. And because Dave Grohl loves getting in front of a camera.

@junk_rig_sailor1698

26 күн бұрын

Yeah nah. Foo Fighters are pretty much rubbish in my opinion, but can't blame Dave Grohl for doing what he did post Nirvana

@rodbelding9523

26 күн бұрын

Exactly. Unpopular opinion, but Dave Grohl isn't funny or cool, he's cringe.

@SLAYERSWINE1

26 күн бұрын

I will take Foo Fighters over Nirvana any day. Just my IMO

@matthewche

25 күн бұрын

@@rodbelding9523I think that opinion might be gaining traction. Grohl, has become the voice and face of ‘dad rock’ and just overexposes himself to the point of being annoying.

Surprised not to see The Rolling Stones mentioned. 50 years passed their sell by date. At least the Beatles know when to stop. I'd proffer the theory that almost no band has a shelf life of more than 10 years quality output.

@craigbalcom

26 күн бұрын

true. I keep saying this to Tull fans.

@Lloyd1885

26 күн бұрын

*past....your welcome,👍🏽

@robertglisson6319

26 күн бұрын

I'd say most great bands have a 5-6 album run followed by a decline, either rapid or gradual. For the Stones, I'd say it was the Mick Taylor era, and not all of those were masterpieces.

@someguy7424

26 күн бұрын

What about bands whose peak quality didn’t start until well into their careers? For example, the Flaming Lips have one of my favorite three album runs, and the first of those albums was released 13 years after their debut.

@dansmithwave

26 күн бұрын

It's about being overrated though. I suspect the Stones are underrated really. Written off as old granddads for decades, but still more Rock'n'Roll than anything from the last 25 years at least. I'd suggest Queen for the overrated list.

I’m really sick and tired of people saying one band is better than another. I don’t really care what anyone thinks about the Beatles or any other band. Not everyone is going to like everything. I grew up listening to my brother saying the Stones were much better than the Beatles. That was his opinion. If it was left up to the Stones, no other British band would have made it here, because at the time, they were a cover band, and basically a bar band. Whether you like it or not, the Beatles were trailblazers, and they brought rock and roll music to maturity. In their era, they inspired others to push the musical envelope, making other bands try to top them. Unlike most of the bands from the ‘70s on, they were not satisfied repeating the same formula over and over just to sell records. If you don’t like them, fine. Everyone has different tastes. But overrated, NO.

Lists like this... Reasons to highly rate a band. 1. You are a musician and appreciate the skill of the musicians and song writing. 2. The music is a touchstone in your life, and those touchstones are myriad. 3. It was the music of your people, your youth, your crew, your family, your whatever. Reasons bands get overblown 1. Radio 2. Media 3. Sales driven push $$ To see past the curtain of Oz, one must recognize them in context of time. For the Iconic bands on the list you must have perspective. If an individual would take the time to listen to the music of the other bands of the era and what music they were producing and also what came before them, then and only then can you see/hear why some of these bands are so highly regarded at the time. Over time they become legend for breaking ground. I would never expect my teenage grand-kids to listen to the Beatles at my house and it become a life changing experience for him or her. They have no context or point of reference. I fell in love with 1950s Doo-Wop at 13 years old after seeing American Graffiti in 1973. As soon as that music was put in context the lights came on and I wanted more doo-wop, a Ducks Ass haircut and a hotrod. Carry on Cuz!!

I would replace The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Rush with Coldplay, Radiohead and Korn.

@markkumanninen6524

25 күн бұрын

Would suit me fine!

@morrisanderson3180

25 күн бұрын

blackmore is right Townshend IS overrated, reason he hates zeppelin is because page is a far better guitar player.

@sgw8903

24 күн бұрын

@@morrisanderson3180 Perhaps as a musiciann I couldn't judge myself as I am no musician at all . But the Who were a far more exiting live band than Deep Purple ever were. And as with rebelliousness, No excitement = no rock and roll. Better or worse? depends what you are judging on. I enjoy both btw.

@Sanctified57

24 күн бұрын

Ditto

@Sanctified57

24 күн бұрын

The Doors surprisingly slipped under the radar of this nonsensical subjective overrated poll

I suspect a lot of the votes for the Beatles comes from folks who mainly associate or recall their early Beatlemania times. I’m not sure if there are many bands who have evolved as much as the Beatles during their (relatively) short career. Also the disparity between songs solely or primarily penned by McCartney can be polarising. Rock fans tend to graduate to Lennon tracks. As you say what can’t be disputed is the enormous significance they had not just on music in the 60s’ and beyond. You may not like their music but they will always be remembered as one of the most progressive, innovative and influential bands of all times. Overrated , I don’t think so.

This is such a silly concept. I couldn’t even make it through a third of the list. It’s really just subjective nonsense. And the term overrated is so generalized as to be meaningless. Just another stupid top 10 list. No thanks.

I've found if someone says the Beatles are overrated and you ask them what music they like it's usually something like Black Metal 🤔

@humphreygruntwhistle3946

5 күн бұрын

I immediately think of high school kids streaming sterile, Auto-Tuned dreck.

Rock'n Roll Hall Of Fame: The Beatles, Beach Boys, Grateful Dead, Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Rush, Pink Floyd...could the hall of fame be a hall of overrated, or dear me, a hall of crap ?

@Luciddreamer007

26 күн бұрын

Hall of Crap ! That’s hilarious 😅

@garyizzard839

26 күн бұрын

@@Luciddreamer007 It's the alternative like the Golden Raspberry Awards. 'Welcome my Son...to the hall of crap'.

@Luciddreamer007

26 күн бұрын

@@garyizzard839 it’s kinda smelly in The Hall of Crap! 💩

@matthewche

25 күн бұрын

Corporate Hall

In reality, Queen should be #1 on this list.

A lot of 70s glam was far more influential than Led Zeppelin. An inconvenient fact that generally is swept under the rug. If you look at a lot of music in the 70s, 80s and 90s, a lot of it was rehashing 70s glam.

@wylierichardson-tu6zs

11 күн бұрын

Nothing about glam rock is 'swept under the rug' - except maybe for some revelations about Gary Glitter having a penchant for the young ones. The music of the 80s that sounded most like 'glam' was the 'hair metal' genre - i.e. Def Leppard, Poison, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi. But the more mainstream artists - think U2, Prince, Springsteen, Madonna, Tears for Fears, Nirvana - had far less 'glam' influence in their music.

@spencerwilliams461

11 күн бұрын

@@wylierichardson-tu6zs Nirvana were influenced by 70s glam and even covered some songs of that ilk. With that said, Nirvanas music was garbage. So yes the statement that 70s glam and its influence is downplayed is true.

@wylierichardson-tu6zs

11 күн бұрын

@@spencerwilliams461 Nirvana was actually one of the better bands of the 90s. I recall them doing a cover of Bowie's The Man Who Sold the World, but that alone doesnt make them a 'glam-influenced' band per se. Quiet Riot did two covers of well-known Slade songs, but they (Quiet Riot) were clearly more 'metal' than 'glam'. Pearl Jam - the other big ''grunge' band of the 90s - worshipped The Who and Neil Young, neither of whom could be classified as 'glam'.

@spencerwilliams461

11 күн бұрын

@@wylierichardson-tu6zs Im not telling you what to like. Nirvana were influenced by the 70s glam of England and 70s American Glam. Though most 70s American Glam were ripping off The Nice, Bowie, Mott The Hopple, The Beatles and Slade. The Beatles aren't seen as 70s Glam but they had a profound influence on it. Rolling Stones too. Obvious a lot of that also goes back to American Rock n Roll as a direct influence... Pearl Jam weren't really Grunge, they were more of a faux Springsteen type of outfit.

Anyone who doesn’t like The Beatles has absolutely zero to say to me about music taste, opinion, and commentary. The Beatles are absolutely impossible to overrate.

@classicalbum

26 күн бұрын

I agree

@Luciddreamer007

26 күн бұрын

To me … people who don’t like the Beatles is kind of like not liking water or food or air !

@Darth_Wafer

26 күн бұрын

At the end of the day, all music is subjective. It's kind of weird to think that everyone should like a certain artist, even if it's The Beatles

@mikedonoghues4018

26 күн бұрын

“There’s The Beatles, and then there’s everyone else.” (Tom Petty)

@QuoPaperPlane

26 күн бұрын

I and many I know including family, don't own a single Beatles record!

Slagging off Oasis has become such a predictable cliché that arguably they've gone over from overrated into slightly underrated

I'm not a miserable bastard! I'm the exact opposite of miserable. Outside of KZread and its endless stream of panty wetting cheerleaders, The Beatles should be nowhere near this list. KZread oversaturation is at the heart of their inclusion here, but it should not be used as a evidence against them.

@stevenweint7893

26 күн бұрын

No, the Beatles are overrated.

God Only Knows is The Beach Boys' greatest song and one of the greatest songs of all time.

@QuoPaperPlane

26 күн бұрын

Candy floss and bubblegum together can only be tolerated once.

@garyizzard839

26 күн бұрын

@@QuoPaperPlane who is that by?

Got to say Pourtnoy is one of the best drummers ever can play anything❤

I've always had a hard time with the term ''overrated'', it's people who don't like a band that's popular and that piss them off. It's not because you don't like a band that he's overrated. We see that alot with prog snobs in particular.

@AbbeyRoadkill1

26 күн бұрын

The core of it is jealousy- resentment of the fact that some band you don't like is more famous/celebrated than a band you worship.

A little ironic that, in Primus' Year of the Parrot, we get the lyric, "Take a Zeppelin riff And you alter it a bit And make lots of money It's called plagiarism." I love Zeppelin, but they could never get away with that stuff now.

Barry it comes down to so many YT channels who don't want to be embarrassed by only liking one style of music. Whoever said you can't like Death Metal Heavy Metal and not like Yes,Floyd,Genesis etc

@donaldkennedy9573

26 күн бұрын

Lemmy's favorite band of all-time??? The Beatles.

@SpaceCattttt

26 күн бұрын

If you can't and you don't like any of these bands, then you don't like them... 🙄

@michaeladkins6

26 күн бұрын

Genesis became Phil Collins back up band.

@SpaceCattttt

26 күн бұрын

@@michaeladkins6 That's the stupidest comment I've read this month.

@gutfeeling3440

25 күн бұрын

​@@michaeladkins6 🤦🏼🙄

Atom Heart Mother an Meddle are the underlying foundations paving their way for DSOTM-that two year period is of a major significance-an Obscured By Clouds should not be overlooked either Guid on you Baz!!

Lol. The irony of wearing a Grateful Dead shirt while conducting this video 😂 That's awesome, sir.

Only just started watching and jolted into a comment due to Nirvana being at 9. If anything, they are under-rated by the muso snobs who didn't give Nevermind anything other than lukewarm reviews, yet which became the biggest album on the planet for a good five years. It's hard for those brought up on "traditional" hard rock to understand the blood curdling rage us (then) young men felt at the time, that Kurt Cobain filled in the late 80's and early 90's with his brand of melody grunge pop filled lyric and slow fast slow thunderclap noise of wonderfully joyous arrangements and yet awfully dark.... 'Polly' ; 'Something in the way', through to "In bloom" 'et all - that was also radio friendly. Plus the dude was a good looking lad that coulda had any lady he wanted, but ended up with The Hole lady...we know how that all turned out before he joined the 27 club. Nirvana's influence is still felt today, especially by any bands that want to try to become the antidote to this current Taylor Swift era of toilet paper music - i.e, yes sh - it.

@dohanddonuts5716

26 күн бұрын

I was always more of a Soundgarden fan. I, in my opinion, think they are a better band. I think Nirvana are a bit overrated. But they are not underrated. About the reviews? Ever heard of Robert Christgau? Well he is known as the "The Dean of American Rock Critics," a nickname which he gave to himself actually 🙄. He gave Nevermind an A. He gave Superunkown an A-. But his reviews on certain genres are the most biased opinions in music. He constantly puts down heavy metal and prog. Loves almost anything punk or rap. He gave a record an A without really listening to it. What is great now is you can now listen to albums before you buy them. However, I do respect your opinion. Now about Taylor Swift. I think she is very talented musician and business woman. However, I find her song writing to be extremely childish, boring and uninspiring. She writes songs about love, people who have done her wrong and ex's. She calls that karma, I call it pettiness and uninspiring. Blues and country music have been singing and writing songs about how that no good man/woman broke their heart. There is no growth. I sure do miss good music. Oh, got to go. Wrote something disparagingly about Taylor Swift and there are Swifties at my door with fire and pitchforks. Cheers 😅

@davidcolin6519

26 күн бұрын

@@dohanddonuts5716 "Blues and country music have been singing and writing songs about how that no good man/woman broke their heart. There is no growth." I am no fan whatsoever of country music (bar Steve Earle), but you do the blues a huge injustice, because there is huge variety topics in the Blues, with everything from your list through tales of Gangsters (Willie The Wimp), Insects (Dragonfly) and a long list of etceteras. In fact the whole panoply of rock rests on the granite of Blues.

@dohanddonuts5716

26 күн бұрын

@@davidcolin6519 Woe. I think you are not understanding what I meant. I just saying that blues and country (which I'm not a fan of) have been writing about heartache for along time before she started. Taylor's music has no growth. I'm also quite aware the influences of both country and the blues made what rock and roll today. I grew up listening to it with my parents. Taylor's music isn't written for us. We are not her demographic. Where is Beavis and Butthead to say, "This sucks. Change It."

@paulcollins5586

26 күн бұрын

Smashing pumpkins i am one is way better than any nirvana song.

@davidcolin6519

25 күн бұрын

@@paulcollins5586 repeat after me "This is only my opinion". My opinion is that you're wrong, and that I find that the music produced by the Smashing Pumpkins is emjminently forgettable. But that is MY opinion, and I would be surprised, and disappointed if everybody agreed.

What a wonderful, intelligent and informatative blog. It's refreshing to hear someone speak so eloquently about music. Not patronising, condescending or rude. I agree totally with you about certain bands. I have tried to 'like' The Grateful Dead but have found it impossible. Maybe their shambolic acid drenched hippy 'free form' music just doesn't connect to music lovers in the UK. The best thing about them is probably their album covers/t-shirts. The wearing of them in the UK would display a degree of irony...much like Johnny Rotten wearing a Pink Floyd t-shirt did at the time.

I never realized just how genius The Beatles were until I watched the movie YESTERDAY a few years ago.

@FVD

15 күн бұрын

Playing The Beatles Rock Band made me realise their genius - especially Ringo!

Blackmore said stuff that was taken as deliberate when he was just saying it for the sake of it. As with Townshend, he once stated that since Clapton only used a plectrum instead of plectrum and a picking finger it meant he couldn't play guitar 😁 not to be taken too seriously!

@BunnEFartz

26 күн бұрын

@gab99 Anybody who knows Blackmore knows that you don't take what he says seriously. He never did.

@nationaltrevor255

26 күн бұрын

@@BunnEFartzI don’t take what he plays seriously either.

Man, if I were to list band I thought were overrated, the top three would have to be U2, R.E.M., and Guns N Roses.

@bdc1117

26 күн бұрын

and here I thought everyone had forgotten about REM

@capri2673

5 күн бұрын

REM are brilliant. Have you not heard The Great Beyond or Leaving New York? U2 and Guns and Roses, I cannot stand.

As someone who was in my early 20s when Oasis broke through, I totally didn't get the hype around them - I didn't get it at the time and nothing's changed since. Sure, they have some decent songs, even some classic songs, but they're not - and never were in my opinion - a particularly great band. A lot of the bands mentioned here have stood the test of time, and will continue to do so - in fifty years people will still know who Floyd and Zep and The Beatles are, no question about it. But my prediction is that Oasis won't endure in the same way, and that over time they'll become increasingly forgotten.

@mattodonoghue9191

26 күн бұрын

What absolute rubbish

@davegold

26 күн бұрын

Who were overrated more, Blur or Oasis? Oasis were a good pop band with plenty of good songs, which is fine, but can't see why anyone would rate them for more than that.

@user-kt9xf2sm9z

26 күн бұрын

......Both.....!!!

@yinoveryang4246

26 күн бұрын

As players they were terrible. Just a bunch of guys, with musicianship far under minimum standard, plodding along. When the Gallagher’s decided to fire their rhythm section, the new guys had the unenviable task of just mimicking the more terrible older musicians. And not causing a fight. So as not to show up the fact neither Noel or Liam could really play anything.

@seanhickin9959

26 күн бұрын

yeah that doesn't make them overrated does it because clearly a lot of people loved them and they reignited the fire into what had become a very stale very boring music scene in the early 90s, they didn't need to artsy or exceptional musicians they just said what we all needed to hear the attitude we all wanted and many bands today will count Oasis as a major influence so no they're not going away easily

I was wondering if you suggest the top ten rock bands based on musical quality. Every time I ask someone the best rock bands from a musical perspective I don't get any clear answer. Usually I hear that the Beatles were commercially successful, however from a musical perspective they are not so great. Thank you.

@itnow

11 күн бұрын

rock is not about musical quality but about impact, energy.

Very nice job on this my friend. People voting The Beatles is pure idiocy. The invented pop, psychedelic and hard rock music. I agree that I have a niggling feeling that Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are a bit overrated in comparison to what else was happening in their salad days. I will defend Nirvana to an extent in that our poor lost soul Kurt was not the most musically gifted but his voice had an emotional/fragile tenor that really spoke to a generation that really sparked an awareness of vunerability that no one else in mainstream rock music did. I think that the current "woke" culture as well as the impending bed-wetting nu metal culture owes a lot to him. He was the CCR/John Fogerty of his generation.

I’ve never understood the whole Grateful Dead thing. I am fully across all forms of classic rock being 62 years old and a dedicated music lover. I’d struggle to name a single song

@bobbyshizz2138

9 күн бұрын

I'm right there with you. Truckin' is the only song of theirs I can think of, and I had to Google to make sure it was them.

Love your channel! For future reference, Jansch is pronounced with a hard J. Found that out recently from the man himself (via the medium of documentary on youtube)

Aerosmith, Metalica,Bon Jovi and Guns & Roses are just a few I would add.

@hannosolo

26 күн бұрын

Bonjela

@samanthab1923

26 күн бұрын

Jon Bon Jersey 😂

@stevenweint7893

26 күн бұрын

👍👍

@colgrey438

26 күн бұрын

Perfect list. Early Aerosmith and Metallica were interesting for a few albums, last 90% of their career absolutely mediocre and forgettable. Guns and roses have a great debut album they have lived off for almost 40 years. Bon Jovi are not even worth talking about.

@mblair5327

26 күн бұрын

@@colgrey438 Nobody is using the mediocre and forgettable stuff to prop them up. I personally don't hold bad albums against a band if they have enough good stuff to make me a fan. Also Guns and Roses' Use Your Illusion albums were huge. Their career was short but they accomplished more with a few albums than many bands with long careers. I won't mention Jovi they aren't worth it 😉

Most online criticism of Nirvana often comes across as elitist and snobbish. What Nirvana did was so basic, so derivative and so lacking in depth that you'd think critics would manage to do something better at some point in their lives. There seems be an attitude among some that music is either as complex as jazz-fusion or prog rock at its most experimental or it's 'mainstream' garbage. I'm not saying that anyone has to like Nirvana. But I don't think writing hits is a crime especially hits that define an entire generation and epoch. Nor is it a fair to act like just because Kurt Cobain wasn't Tom Scholz or Frank Zappa that his contribution and creativity deserves no respect.

@bdc1117

26 күн бұрын

I seem to remember Nirvana drowning in elite critical praise when they were current, so this is a baffling comment to me

@AbbeyRoadkill1

26 күн бұрын

Someone else on this thread said that Nirvana is an example of how great songwriting beats great musicianship every time. They're right.

@asdfzxcv3617

24 күн бұрын

They have not very good songs at all.

You consistently produce some of the best music-focused videos out here. Your slapping around of Dream Theater is fully grounded and merited - and I'm a fan. Give me "Images and Words", "Live Scenes From New York" and "SCORE" and I could use the rest for target practice. I have a love/hate relationship with Labrie's DT (screeching) vocals as well as (which you so aptly pointed out) with the band's mindless exhibitionist tendencies. "We get it, guys - your technique is incredible....now how do we escape this 8 min long train crash of a song?" Thank you. Ignore the spoons and keep up the good work.

Yes, the Beatles are one of the greatest bands, but they are also one of the most overrated. Prog would have happened without them because of the Moody Blues. Heavy metal and punk would have happened because of The Who. So yes they were hugely influential, but not indispensable, as many people think. My other nine would be The Smiths, ELP, Rush, Yes, King Crimson, the Sex Pistols, Nirvana, Joy Division and Metallica, with Tool, Brand X, Dream Theatre and the Ramones as honourable mentions. As an addendum, I won't mention Oasis, as I don't know anyone who rates them that highly.

@asdfzxcv3617

24 күн бұрын

Rush, Yes and King Crimson are great bands, and not so rated.

Saying The Beatles are overrated is the equivalent of saying music is overrated.

@trevcar

25 күн бұрын

​@@johneeeemarry34I wanna hold your hand is just one great song out of all the other songs they wrote.. no bad songs on every album

@spencerwilliams461

24 күн бұрын

True

Dream Theater is my favorite band. It’s hard to call them overrated. It’s rare to see such melody combined with crazy musical structures. I listened to a lot of prog metal, but I haven’t found anything better yet. There are a lot of worthy bands, but I haven’t heard anything like them.

@simpleman5688

26 күн бұрын

I can’t handle the singer except for “Pull Me Under”.

@tdrvknstin

26 күн бұрын

​@@simpleman5688Once upon a time, I also couldn’t accept LaBrie’s vocals. But over time, I realized that he was well suited for DT. It’s a pity that now he’s too much of a substitute. He can’t handle the material well live.

@stevenweint7893

26 күн бұрын

Dream Theatre is overrated.

@robertglisson6319

26 күн бұрын

@@tdrvknstin, yes. I think the same about Geddy Lee's vocals with Rush. Horrible, but I cannot imagine anyone else singing them. The overrated aspect of Rush to me is the adulation poured onto them about their virtuosity, as though no other band could touch them. While very talented, they are no more talented than many other rock or jazz fusion bands, including Dream Theater. When one thinks about Cream, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Yes, Zeppelin, or any number of bands, Rush is considered another talented band. Let's not even mention Mahavishnu Orchestra...

@johncalvo1743

26 күн бұрын

@@robertglisson6319 Geddy's singing improved vastly after Hemispheres. He was great until Father Time took his voice. Dream Theatre can't write great songs. Sure, they have one here and there, but Rush did it for a long time and were more consistent. This is what sets apart Rush from the rest of the bands mentioned---their longevity. And don't talk to me about Yes because they constantly had a revolving door of musicians. Rush's last album was one of their best. Can you say the same about Led Zep or the Stones?

What a great list and the reasononing is dead on. I think the problem with most of these bands, is that they started believing their own press! They mostly have 'some' great songs or even albums. But to faun over these people for getting out of bed and gracing us with their presence seems to go too far. And for that reason, I own a ton of music from most if these bands, (my MP3 and MP4 list is almost 60 hours long) but damned few FULL albums from any of them. I loved this video. Keep at it.

This is great. I love your deadpan delivery, even-handedness and range of knowledge. Good catch on the Bert Jansch episode, but see also Davey Graham (White Summer and Over the Hills both cop his version of She Moved through the fair). The Dead weren't particularly ill-disciplined when they played with Bob Bylan, by the way. It's only with the VE that I disagree with any of the choices here. If nothing else, it gave us Lou Reed. Do you really think the Beatles were that good. Borrowed from Bob Dylan? Well, yes, but more. By the time Sgt Pepper came out Bob had already released Bringing it all back home, Highway 61 revisited and Blonde on Blonde (first rock double album - beats Zappa's double by a week and Sgt Pepper by just under a year (Highway 61 kills it by about 18 months)!). So whos driving the album culture now? Obviously you do credit Dylan, but don't dismiss this as a Dylan Fan Rant. I should point out that even very good bands can be over-rated, and some of the ones on your list (not Nirvana, not Oasis, by the way) are very good, but still over-rated. Cheers.

i love 'emotional denouement' to RUSH! i think that's exactly why i love them, & i'm the one who hates anything 'agit-pop' or deconstructivist-seeming. i don't like long instrumental solos, or that 'magician singer songwriter' vibe either but what can i say, their music's absolutely TONAL, they're able to pull it off . . .

Pet Sounds is very good music weighed down by mopey puerile lyrics. I'll make an exception for God Only Knows, which is transcendently beautiful, and for Sloop John B., which is a folk song tarted up.

This is a list of bands some people don’t like instead of overrated

Saying Rush are overrated because they have no soul is just that one person’s opinion, a preference which doesn’t make them overrated. I’ve always based overrated artists on their technique/skill or lack of. Factors like Influence I’ve never taken into account because it’s too loose a term, it’s a preference again as every band has influence to a certain degree.

@AbbeyRoadkill1

26 күн бұрын

The older I get, the less impressed I am by technical skill and the more impressed I am by well-crafted songs that leave a lasting emotional impact.

@asdfzxcv3617

24 күн бұрын

​@@AbbeyRoadkill1Rush have both of them.

No mention of The Rolling Stones?

I find it's less confrontational to call them successful/influential bands that I never personally 'got' . But where would the fun be in that! 😊

agree with most of that, Pink Floyd the Syd Barrett days they was magnificent, after Syd they suffered a bit from head up their arses syndrome in a big way, as for Blackmores take on Pete Townshend, Petes guitar work is limited to suit his songwriting also playing with Keith Moon and John Entwistle restricted him, however since Keith and John passed Pete Townshends guitar work has flourished given his new found freedom to express himself more live on stage......big Who fan here, also dont rate Blackmores bash at Folk, but he could never compete with the great Richard Thompson, Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span etc etc.....a lot of the Beatles stuff was Tosh, but a lot of their stuff was truly wonderful....Love Music Love Life, could say that about Beer as well...haha.

Much of this says more about the people who voted than it does about the bands themselves. Some people don't have the emotional or mental acuity to appreciate the music in its time. It is the old trope about I don't know about art but I know what I like.

I'll take any of these bands on their worst day over today's so called "artists" on their best.

Oasis regenerated guitar music in the UK. Thousands of kids were buying guitars and having a crack with their mates....especially the working class kids. Back to basics rock n roll to those of us emerging from the dance music era. It was just what the country needed...it was what the industry needed. So to all the middle class graduates of the music press...'the critics'...that just didn't get it.... Thank you Oasis.

@kenny1057

24 күн бұрын

Well said mate people forget how dire the music scene was before oasis 🎸🇬🇧

Whether or not you care for The Beatles (they never moved me the way Yes, Rush, old Genesis, or even Iron Maiden do) there's "before the Beatles" and "after the Beatles" in non-classical music. Especially their later work was ground-breaking in so many ways.

It never ceases to amaze me ,that just because someone does not like an Album/group/singer they say there overrated . Some of the names on this list have sold millions of albums wide world ,so how can they be overrated when so many people like their records.Its an over used term which means nothing, if you like or don't like an Album/group/singer it does not mean they are over or under rated, its a nonsense saying. Thank you ,you made good comments to the list

People who call the Beach Boys overrated probably have never listened to anything past Pet Sounds. Like you said, Surfs Up, Sunflower, Holland and even Wild Honey are amazing. I do agree though about their 80's output.

@AbbeyRoadkill1

26 күн бұрын

I can understand the point of view that *as a band* The Beach Boys are overrated because during their peak years, they hardly ever played on their own records. Most of the playing was done by The Wrecking Crew. But is the *music* that Brian Wilson wrote overrated? Hell no! It surpasses the Beatles in some ways, and Paul McCartney himself would admit as much.

@liamoneill4706

26 күн бұрын

Ive always thought of those post pet sounds albums as frustratingly patchy as the songwriting lacked an overall direction due to Brian checking out somewhat but if you put the best 12-13 tracks together from those albums its very very good indeed

...great and highly entertaining review, Barry...of course lists of the very best, overrated, underrated and worst bands... are overall: overrated! 😎 But when you are there for the fun of it, then the 'overrated-ness' becomes possibly even 'underrated-ness' (still following me?) I can live with all kinds of judgement about any band... every single one of this low-10 has many fans, who rate them as the best band, ever gracing this planet... ...but: the Beatles, and I'm very (not) sorry, are indeed the wonder, that they are looked at... they had a few 'misses', but you can almost count those with your fingers... as much as this provokes riots among the rebellious, I put it down to 'not knowing enough about them' to be able to comprehend, what they've done... ⭐🔥💖

Great vid, please do a "10 Rush Songs I Don't Want to Hear Again". My list (in no particular order): - Time Stand Still - Dog Years - Lakeside Park - Passage to Bangkok - Spirit of the Radio - Limelight - Vital Signs - Working Man - Mission - The Garden

Morning Barry. There is lot of over rated videos about at the moment. We all have different ears. There are no over rated bands. We all like different styles and music. My favourite band of all times are Rush. Very very few of my muso friends like them and my Mrs abhors them. She attended one of my favourite gigs and she hated it. I’ve never rated ELP (I know, sacrilege)! But appreciate how good they were and would never consider them over rated. I did see the Andy Edwards video and just thought it was pretentious tosh. Hey ho.

I love Zeppelin and since they captured my imagination at age 13 (I’m 47 now) I’ve collected and loved a fair amount of their work (not all of it), but are they overrated?? Absolutely yes. Objectively speaking, what is so good about overly looong droning songs with repetitive riffs, with a singer whose vocals you can barely make out, and who had their fair share of filler? D’yer Make’er?? Hot Dog?? Living Loving Maid??? Absolute shit!

@cjsm1006

2 күн бұрын

Well, I agree Zep are overrated, but I like Living Loving Maid. I think it's a great song. But I've noticed that, even with the Beatles. May songs I think are among their worst many people consider among their best, and there are a few songs I consider among their best, that many people think are among their worst.

Grateful Dead? Wake of the Flood and Workingman’s Dead and Skeletons albums? And all the hits. Wow, did not see that one coming

@samanthab1923

26 күн бұрын

I know! What’s with the tee?

@rubbabubba6489

26 күн бұрын

People who view the Dead as nothing more than psychedelic noodling and drugs never listened to the Dead.

Enjoyed your video, thank you.. people forgot to list Foo Fighters, besides 2 decent first albums, a lot of safe, middle of the road, dull ones.. People think everything's overrated if you see this list.

Like Caitlin Moran said: "The Beatles is a grid from which I understand everything ... the way you can progress as an artist or human, I understand it throught the first you'll be in Hamburg and do your ten thousand hours, (---) and then you'll go through you know your punky urgent phase, then you'll go through your imperial phase, then you go through your experimental phase, then it all go heroin bad".

@stevenweint7893

26 күн бұрын

Nonsense. The Beatles are overrated.

@Man-From-Another-Place

26 күн бұрын

I once got into an argument with Caitlin Moran on twitter. Horrendous woman. Just thought I'd put that out there.

@steakmediumrare

26 күн бұрын

@@Man-From-Another-Place Thank you for mentioning that. I like the subject "meeting famous people in reality". 👍

@Man-From-Another-Place

25 күн бұрын

@@steakmediumrare To be fair, it was years ago, and I don't even remember what it was about. She might be OK.

Big Zeppelin fan in 1969 after hearing the first album. Saw them live just before they released their Vol. II album and was so disappointed with them that although I bought Vol. II and even Vol. III I just lost interest in them. Borrowed subsequent albums and thought they were all crap. Totally overrated in my opinion.

@warrior9085

26 күн бұрын

Watching them live during the 70's was like throwing a dice,if they played clean you were in for a great gig,but if they were off their tits oh boy I've seen better pub bands.

@jockkardashian.9407

26 күн бұрын

I liked the first two albums and after that I thought there were some great songs, but poor albums.

@johncalvo1743

26 күн бұрын

C'mon now! Zep IV was one of the best albums in history.

@JoyDivision88

24 күн бұрын

@@johncalvo1743 Sorry kidda but I just did not like it. For example cannot stand Stairway to Heaven. I find it total drivel. I know millions love it but it leaves me cold I am afraid.

@SteveChoateMusic

22 күн бұрын

I too was a big fan of the first album and also saw them live at that time. It went slowly downhill for me after that. Saw them live in the mid 70s and left at mid show due to poor performance.

Cmon. I understand that someone doesnt love a band or has even stronger dislike. But Beatles! Floyd! Zeppelin!? Led zeppelin overrated? Countless musicians said that there is no rock band not influenced by Jimmy Page and rest of the band. Some people…

@classicalbum

26 күн бұрын

I don't think Led Zep are overrated

@stefano.b65stef77

26 күн бұрын

Eagles, U2 and Queen are overrated, kinks are underrated

@asdfzxcv3617

24 күн бұрын

Influence is not quality at all. They are fir sure overrated because they are too rated.

@nebojsatomicevic6800

24 күн бұрын

​@@asdfzxcv3617 The moment I saw that you are questioning Led Zeppelin's quality, I stopped reading.

@user-qb1sm3rk9r

11 күн бұрын

Led Zeppelin is pretty overrated. Yeah yeah, I know they were directly and indirectly very influential and prior to them hard rock was a fairly amorphous genre. They managed to distil the essence of it and make it more punchy. I spent most of my late teen years trying to appreciate them, and I've heard all their records many times. But Page is a sloppy guitarist, Plant lost his voice halfway through their career.His vocal style isn't even all that original, guys like Steve Marriot and Terry Reid were doing similar styles a few years before him. Not to mention that female vocalists like Janice Joplin. Bonham is a powerful drummer but I don't listen to a band for drums. Like most people drum solos on live albums are to be skipped, not played. But it's the *plagiarism* that really is the sore point. I'd estimate about 70% of the debut is either based on other people's songs (like Dazed or Confused) or they're blatant rip offs, like Black Mountain Side. The plagiarism continues on and off for most of their career. Even the riff to Whole Lotta Love appears in Hey Joe covered by Hendrix two years earlier. And really I can't understand why anyone would want to listen to a muddy sounding stodgy blues rip off like The Lemon Song in today's age. I wouldn't care so much but all my life I've had people say that Led Zeppelin are the greatest rock band of all time, or the greatest band of all time. Such excessive praise seems unjustified when they relied so much on other people's music for their success. I refuse to bow down before them as musical gods. That's objectively why I think they're overrated. I don't really like them for some subjective reasons. The guitar tone- it's thin, scratchy and cold sounding. For a supposedly heavy rock band I find the guitar unsatisfying. I much preferred Black Sabbath and even earlier bands like Cream and Hendrix I find have a heavier, beefier guitar tone. I just hate those hippy-ish acoustic folk songs they did. And the fans are really annoying. Like the ones getting butthurt at this comment.

Albums like "Surfs Up" and "Holland" have always made me think The Beach Boys are underrated. The Beatles aren't overrated because they are the most influential band of all time.

The meat puppets out there bellyaching about Led Zeppelin stole this or that is just people who need something to complain about. They have always talked extensively about their influences and especially the Delta blues sound. When Zep is playing a variation of an Delta blues guitarist riff and making it into a song, it's not stealing, they are honoring it. Also, do you ever hear the members of Zep suing anyone for "borrowing" their sound. When the levee breaks drumbeat is probably most copied drum sound in this planet's history, but their not dragging people into court over it.

i really like the Beach Boys output during the 1970s, amongst the wack throwaway fillers there are some great elegiac pieces, and 'Lady Lynda' from 1979 was their last great highpoint imo.

@simondavies9315

7 күн бұрын

I have to agree about LL even though it's pretty cheesy. Love You is another favourite of mine but it is forever getting slagged off as the BBs worst album. When I listen to music I don't always need it to be a masterpiece.

Thanks for the list. I would remove Oasis and throw Steely Dan on it

@classicalbum

26 күн бұрын

Fair enough!

@AbbeyRoadkill1

26 күн бұрын

Utterly insane.

@jessicamorgan3073

14 күн бұрын

😱😱

@capri2673

5 күн бұрын

Someone recommended a "classic" Steely Dan album to me. I listened to it and it was terrible.

On The Beach Boys, I’m with Brian Wilson in terms of their best song, Barry. “Darlin’ “ is just sublime. Better than “Good Vibrations” and “God Only Knows”. Great vid as usual.

I don't agree with at least half that list. I think people who were not old enough to listen to these bands when they were releasing albums or were maybe too old to understand their influence on contemporary music when they came out would say they are overrated. Led Zeppelin was a huge influence. Yes, they stole other people's music like the Rolling Stones seemed to do in the early days. To me, some of the most overrated bands are Kiss and Guns n Roses. They were neither good nor unique but have a heavy following from mostly young boys at the time who grew up thinking they were the best bands in the world. Two artists I find to be overrated because of the bands they used to be in are Alice Cooper and Ozzy Osborne. Neither one is anywhere as good asbthe bands they left. I also think Peter Gabriel's solo career produced inferior music to Genesis. To me, it was a letdown. There are a lot of bands and musicians releasing music these days who are overrated because of how many hits they get from streaming sources. Musical contestant shows and streaming have produced a lot of bland, similar sounding artists who seem to be very popular now. By the way, how is the Grateful Dead overrated. You either like them or you don't. They did not have a lot of hit songs. People who follow them mostly like their live music, so if you didn't follow them, you would have no idea what the band is all about. Lots of people might say the Allman Brothers were a great jam band, but I would argue that the Dead were better. Sadly, most people who would say Pink Floyd is overrated probably haven't listened to their entire catalog. They made a lot of music, and it isn't just The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon. People are entitled to their opinions, but I am surprised by the bands that were called out on this list and by the ones that are missing.

@spencerwilliams461

24 күн бұрын

Most bands and musicians name check Led Zeppelin because they were a big industry plant at the time. There music was poor, even with plagiarisms and most of what they were doing was done better by other bands who don't get enough credit. Every music nerd and dullard musician name checks them because they know it will get them talked about if they pretend to like them. Plenty of people hated that band for not being very good and having poor songwriting.

As for hating The Velvet Underground, there are a lot of people who hate their influence. If one makes a rule of not listening to anything influenced by them, that eliminates about half of the music made in the ‘70s, and anything remotely edgy that isn’t metal or hip hop from the ‘80s onward.

@independenceltd.

26 күн бұрын

🤡

@scottanthonyweidner8692

26 күн бұрын

@@independenceltd. Saying I'm a clown, or they're clowns?

@robertglisson6319

26 күн бұрын

Sounds good to me. I like music, not edginess. Much preferred Lou Reed's solo stuff.

@tuskact4overheaven873

26 күн бұрын

​@@robertglisson6319the velvet underground weren't edgy tho

@scottanthonyweidner8692

26 күн бұрын

@@tuskact4overheaven873 Yeah, that’s a completely ludicrous opinion. It was whatever not-edgy-enough-for-you edginess they had that is, objectively and observably, where the music I mentioned got its edginess.

3:52 anthem of the sun for the win. Totally agree!

It’s funny because most people I’ve talked to who have said the Beatles are overrated are people who like hard rock, which basically doesn’t change anything. It’s just basically noise. I like some hard rock too, but the same three or four chords and loud guitars gets boring real quick. Talk about wallpaper paste! 😂

Some folks confuses overexposed with overrated. Often because those folks feel a need for defining themselves as original individuals, visionary people with an eye for what many others can’t see as brilliant. Hence such folks despises things that are a bit too popular or widely acknowledged... The Beatles are surely such a overexposed band. And it’s their own fault. Even after all these years hardly a year goes by without a “new” Beatles release in some form. That doesn’t make The Beatles a less groundbreaking band though. They were clearly a musical revolution back in their day. And it’s hard to imagine how music would have developed if they hadn’t been there. Hence The Beatles can hardly be defined as overrated. In my eyes exposion and sales figures has nothing to do with whether a band is overrated or not.

The thing about Nirvana (especially for those of us who grew up in the punk/ indie music scene of that era) is that there were so many better ot more deserving bands out there who had actually created the changes you speak of. Nirvana was the safe, radio friendly version the record industry foisted upon us. Kurt knew this and I think it gave him a Catcher in the Rye complex

@finneogan

26 күн бұрын

Exactly. Next up in line are the Pixies. Brilliant as they were, they really only broke into the outskirts of the mainstream, with Nirvana taking that last step into MTV and heavy radio rotation. The band that actually did first (and best) what the Pixies and Nirvana reaped was Hüsker Dü.

@macheesmo3

26 күн бұрын

@@finneogan The Melvins, The Jesus Lizard, Kyuss, Mule, Big Black...etc all had a,hand

Queen, no question. Partly generated by Freddie's tragic death, also the relentless TV documentaries, and the weird mythologising of the Live Aid performance. I read recently in The Times that this was "the greatest ever live concert". Seriously? Greatest ever? They were a decent band but that's about it, imho.

@ma-shina

26 күн бұрын

I´m really big Queen fan, but I have to agree with you.

@mori1bund

26 күн бұрын

The problem with Queen is, that most people people who have a (positive or negative) opinion of the band, know exactly just the songs from the first Greatest Hits or the usual handful of songs that are played on the radio, but they think they've totally figured out that band. ^^

@garyinspain

26 күн бұрын

i agree. i live in spain and its amazing how many people regard queen as the best band ever. maybe they had 3 or 4 decent songs. who could think radio ga ga is anything but awful?

@robertglisson6319

26 күн бұрын

@@mori1bund, truer words never spoken. I wonder if any band had as many great songs that never made the airwaves as Queen, while having so many rather mediocre songs selected as hits? I could listen to the REST of Night At The Opera without EVER playing Bohemian Rhapsody, but that is the song everyone hears. News Of The World is filled with great music, but all most hear are We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions. I also think that the Mystique of Mercury overshadowed the band. The movie was basically a biopic of Freddie, whose personality was really over the top, the Jim Morrison of his day without the self-destruction.

@bdc1117

26 күн бұрын

Queen were a great band, wall to wall talent. I wouldn't put them in the top 5 all time or anything. But according to Wiki they're one of only seven acts to sell more than 250 million records, which is pretty impressive. The others are the Beatles, Elvis, MJ, Elton, Madonna, and Zep.

Nice. Wonder what that poll would be like 20 years ago? The Beatles? We really have to start teaching music again in grade school. Kinda explains the brilliant music of today. 😢

I will honestly say that I never got into the Beatles and couldn't understand the fuss but then watched the recent documentary on the Sgnt Pepper Album - mind blown! Perhaps The Beatles now lay claim to one of the most underated bands of all time by those not around at the time??

Beatles will always be #1 ! Are there some songs I don’t like? Heck yeahhhhh Maxwell’s Silver Hammer! Hate hate hate that song!

@canalesworks1247

26 күн бұрын

That one gets way too much hate. I hate Bungalow Bill way more.

@cherriberri7161

26 күн бұрын

@@canalesworks1247 just as bad lol , McCarthy wrote some beautiful songs, I have no idea what he was thinking with these two. Could be worse though…..Like if he asked Yoko to guest sing on one of his songs! 💀💀💀 God knows what Lennon was thinking or taking

@glumonion1454

25 күн бұрын

I wonder if you would have hated Maxwells Silver Hammer if it was on Pepper or the White Album? Neither their greatest or worst song, but just feels out of place on Abbey Road.

@cherriberri7161

25 күн бұрын

@@glumonion1454 I’m trying give a honest answer I’ll say YES I wouldn’t like it no matter what album and since I’m being honest I’m not a fan of I’m A Walrus from MMT

@glumonion1454

25 күн бұрын

@@cherriberri7161 yeah , it’s all down to taste, Maxwells Hammer is a bit cheesy and I don’t like Come together. Love Walrus though

You terrified me with the opening comment about Townshend. Mercifully, the Who (greatest live act in rock) were not on the list. That said, the Beatles? Really? I agree with Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd, Grateful Dead and some others being on the list. I don't get the enthusiasm for them.

@bdc1117

26 күн бұрын

haha the Who definitely overrated as a live act. Townshend being a nonstop spaz isn't live greatness

@johnt1877

26 күн бұрын

I must have missed something. I have a lot of live Who and a lot of live Dead. The Who cannot touch the Dead when it comes to playing live. Yes, some of the Who's music is definitely good when played live, but the Who did not improvise like the Dead did. Maybe you just don't know the Dead, but that does not make them overrated.

@lib556

25 күн бұрын

@@johnt1877 Different strokes for different folks. My comment was spawned by the hint that someone might think the Who is overrated. More egregious is the actual placement of Zep and the Beatles on that list. Again, just my opinion.

@capri2673

5 күн бұрын

U2 should have been #1 on that list.

"Overrated" is such a vague term. I would agree that some of the material from these bands has not aged very well and they may have been overplayed. But we can't deny the influence that most of them have had, in many cases setting new directions for pop / rock music. Interesting discussion, thanks!

There's a lot to unpack from this list and the opinions surrounding it so I'll try to keep it short, and yes, I'm speaking to the man behind the channel and all of you as well. I look at overrated bands as being in the right place at the right time in terms of the music and more importantly, the commercial viability. Every single one of the bands mentioned had the right music and the right advertising. Oasis would never have survived the Brit Pop era if it weren't for the marketing and their forced rivalry with Blur. Nirvana came onto the scene when grunge was healthy and growing at the very tail end of the 80's going into the 90's. It can absolutely be said that Alice in Chains is better than Nirvana but the latter was more commercially viable in the end and still is because of Nevermind and Kurt's suicide at 27, thus being immortalized by his fans and put on the "great artists who died at 27" list. When it comes to the likes of Zeppelin, The Floyd, and the Beatles, the marketing behind them catapulted them into stardom when the time and music was right as well. I tend to joke with people that I'm too much of a Floyd fan to listen to Zeppelin so I simply won't attempt to try and analyze them. Your opinions of the Floyd very much mirror my own and your analysis of AHM gave me a new appreciation for the album I never considered. When it comes to The Beatles, loving their music has been a lifelong journey and I can't say it's all good but the right stuff tickles my music bone with glee and gloom. Imagine falling in love with Accross the Universe while simultaneously the woman I loved and her daughter who called me Dad just up and left me. Had to put that song on the backburner and is still there. As an amateur historian of music, I also cannot stress enough to people the importance of how bands like The Floyd, Beatles and Beach Boys created new techniques for recording and mixing sounds into extraordinary works of art and that modern music could and would never be the same. Thanks as always for your words of wisdom and maybe try this for a poll: The most overrated bands most people have never heard of. (Until I went to college, I had no idea who the likes of King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and Gentle Giant were, and punk that wasn't the Ramones)

Andy Edwards did this, both of you very interesting and both provocative 😂

@finneogan

26 күн бұрын

Each with their unique style and personality, but with a lot in common. Passionate yet analytical, mastering the art of differentiation between their own tastes and a well-grounded sense of musical history, able to navigate controversy and turn it into fruitful discussion, strong and likeable voices ... long list. A good thing too that one's more of a progger, the other more of a rocker, so we get different perspectives and emphases.