Ten HUGE Star Wars Retcons

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Star Wars Episode 9 The Rise Of Skywalker has been drip feeding fans information explaining Emperor Palatine being a clone and Rey's real origin. Retcons in the Star Wars universe date back to the original movies so here''s ten of the best! Actually it's twelve but ten looks better in the title. Consider them a bonus. Thanks for watching.
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  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber4624 жыл бұрын

    You were my brother, Owen! I loved you! *Obi-Wan walks away as Owen is burned alive by Stormtroopers*

  • @the6ig6adwolf

    @the6ig6adwolf

    4 жыл бұрын

    Owen wasn't burned alive by stormtroopers, everyone knows that. C'mon

  • @red_doggo7219

    @red_doggo7219

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haven't you seen troops? It was a total accident.

  • @davids1854

    @davids1854

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gary did it

  • @somebuddyX

    @somebuddyX

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gary accidentally burnt down the Lars homestead when he set the bathroom on fire.

  • @louisowen6502

    @louisowen6502

    4 жыл бұрын

    Harsh 🤣

  • @danielclyde7777
    @danielclyde77774 жыл бұрын

    Please, Disney, make a “Life of Brian” esk comedy with Owen Lars being confused for Obi Wan by the bad guys!

  • @daisyblossomflowerchild9702

    @daisyblossomflowerchild9702

    4 жыл бұрын

    He's not a Jedi! He's a very naughty boy!

  • @Madman-ym8dh

    @Madman-ym8dh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is his mother a virgin?

  • @isleofdead1337

    @isleofdead1337

    4 жыл бұрын

    “I’m not a Jedi!” “He’s a Jedi!”

  • @momo1234567solo

    @momo1234567solo

    4 жыл бұрын

    You would love i belive its the second star wars robot chicken special with garry the stormtrooper

  • @Bioniking

    @Bioniking

    4 жыл бұрын

    Like that will ever happen. We can dream though

  • @Drowzeeking04
    @Drowzeeking044 жыл бұрын

    One retcon I think is cool is that Captain Rex from the Clone Wars series is now in the battle of Endor in Return of the Jedi.

  • @benporter6062

    @benporter6062

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I love that.

  • @Nealrex101

    @Nealrex101

    4 жыл бұрын

    i really love that one

  • @Wednesday131O

    @Wednesday131O

    4 жыл бұрын

    Im pretty sure I heard somewhere that wasn't rex, but it may have been someone who was debating it and chose to say it wasn't and that rex was just doing something else at the battle of endor.

  • @indiana157

    @indiana157

    4 жыл бұрын

    Brendon Ghrist he was a different guy in legends but I think Dave filoni said that it was him tho

  • @jordanthomas2490

    @jordanthomas2490

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@indiana157 If Dave says it, its cannon imo. Dude is basically carrying the franchise on his back rn

  • @marivegas313
    @marivegas3134 жыл бұрын

    At Least They Never Retconned The Greatest Star Wars Line Of All Time: “Maclunkey”

  • @PittsburghSonido

    @PittsburghSonido

    4 жыл бұрын

    Machunky

  • @kankouya

    @kankouya

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tony H Maclunkey

  • @SchulzEricT

    @SchulzEricT

    4 жыл бұрын

    They retconned "not Maclunkey"

  • @MojoChino

    @MojoChino

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maclunkey for life muthah f-¤θ¡¿μ`θ

  • @lucascampelo1973

    @lucascampelo1973

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MojoChino mœþhəřfųčķəř

  • @GrandMarshalGarithos
    @GrandMarshalGarithos4 жыл бұрын

    "Darth" didn't use to be a sith title, just Vader's first name.

  • @ReservoirDolphin

    @ReservoirDolphin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was that actually a retcon or just an assumption? I know Obi-Wan called him, “Darth,” but I always just assumed that was like calling someone, “Captain,” or something.

  • @captainbritain7379

    @captainbritain7379

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matthew Thomason It was definitely intended as a name, because in early drafts a different sort of character had the same name.

  • @impulse5674

    @impulse5674

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matthew Thomason pretty sure it was considering Vader wasn’t Luke’s father originally

  • @AC-gb7do

    @AC-gb7do

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was taken as an apprentice by Palpatine/Sidious, and was given the title "Darth". According to Wookiepedia (not sure how accurate) The character of Darth Vader was not originally planned to be a suited cyborg. In the original scripts for A New Hope, the name "Darth Vader" was given to a normal Imperial general. The concept of a cybernetic Vader was created when the concept artist drew the opening scene where Tantive IV was being boarded. It was initially imagined that Darth Vader would fly through space to enter the ship, necessitating a suit and breathing mask. This suit was later made permanent and incorporated in the story. Vader's usage of an all black uniform, alongside his devotion to Emperor Palpatine, was also intended to be an analogy to the Schutzstaffel (SS) in Nazi Germany. While the commitment to reveal the villainous Darth Vader as Luke's father was officially made in the second draft of The Empire Strikes Back, elements of a Darth-Vader-like character being Luke's father were present in the very first drafts of the first film's screenplay, back when it was going to be called The Star Wars. From the Wookieepedia entry for Kane Starkiller (father of Annikin Starkiller, the character who would later be renamed Luke Skywalker): By the second draft, he becomes known simply as "The Starkiller" and he is the father of Luke Starkiller; he survives to the end of that version and is not a cyborg. In another story synopsis, he is deleted and replaced by a crazy old man encountered on the road. The notion that Luke's father was a cyborg was incorporated into the story of Darth Vader. Coincidentally, Kane's cyborg body had a chest plate on his torso that resembled a similar chest plate on Vader's life-support armor. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kane_Starkiller

  • @kibordpengin

    @kibordpengin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jessejive117 oh yeah, lots of dutch names in star wars, you totally cracked the code.

  • @77163
    @771634 жыл бұрын

    I just realised this show is all about presentation, if I read this list of retcons I'd think, who cares? Boring list. But watching this was highly entertaining and tricked me in to thinking these were fascinating bits of trivia. You got me.

  • @hellojari07

    @hellojari07

    4 жыл бұрын

    yea, I could listen to them talk abt anything

  • @jds123187

    @jds123187

    4 жыл бұрын

    "We got a first timer out here"

  • @BoyanDimitrov

    @BoyanDimitrov

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep it's the power of two possibly drunk Australian guys dicking about.

  • @AvatarCritic

    @AvatarCritic

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's basically this whole channel (and that's not a bad thing)

  • @morkofork
    @morkofork4 жыл бұрын

    Chewie: "We know each other, he's a friend from work!"

  • @christophercrawford2736

    @christophercrawford2736

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mork_of_Ork2001 took me a few seconds to remember this reference

  • @finnpaisal9812

    @finnpaisal9812

    4 жыл бұрын

    66 likes

  • @anthonyh.2957

    @anthonyh.2957

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, Strong Guys & Green Guys just get along really well it seems

  • @r7diego

    @r7diego

    4 жыл бұрын

    I understand that reference !!

  • @Brione30

    @Brione30

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mork_of_Ork2001 Good boy! Here’s a treat!

  • @Grnvolpe
    @Grnvolpe4 жыл бұрын

    Yoda to Chewbacca: We know each other. He's a friend from work

  • @dustinakadustin

    @dustinakadustin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Darth Wheezius no, that's not it at all. Yodas speech pattern is legible and not nonsense.

  • @TheMostUninterestingMan
    @TheMostUninterestingMan4 жыл бұрын

    Just wait until they retcon Luke's death when it's revealed The Sequel Trilogy Luke is actually a clone of Bigger Luke.

  • @Quirderph

    @Quirderph

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait, not even proper Bigger Luke?

  • @rampantrambling8178

    @rampantrambling8178

    4 жыл бұрын

    The luke in the sequel trilogy is the bigger Luke, the real Luke is only 3 feet tall

  • @Ryu1ify

    @Ryu1ify

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rampantrambling8178 Hierarchy of Lukes Biggest Luke Big Boss Luke Bigger Luke Clone Luke Luke Me

  • @rampantrambling8178

    @rampantrambling8178

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ryu1ify I'm at the top

  • @Ryu1ify

    @Ryu1ify

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rampantrambling8178 Ok Bruce Wayne Biggest Luke Big Boss Luke Bigger Luke Clone Luke Me

  • @kevthepoet
    @kevthepoet4 жыл бұрын

    Rogue One is also a retcon from the Death Star having an inexplicable weakness to a deliberate weakness created by its designer.

  • @harrambou9468

    @harrambou9468

    4 жыл бұрын

    KP Kev the Poet I actually think that’s better...plus let’s be honest Rogue One was some of the best they had, give credit where it’s due

  • @kevthepoet

    @kevthepoet

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@harrambou9468 Rogue One is my favourite post originally original trilogy Star Wars movie. I wasn't criticising it, just stating a fact.

  • @harrambou9468

    @harrambou9468

    4 жыл бұрын

    KP Kev the Poet if “post original” includes Revenge of the Sith how was Rogue One better

  • @kevthepoet

    @kevthepoet

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@harrambou9468 I should have said Sequels. Revenge of the Sith is on par. Not sure which is better. Rogue One felt realer and had much better dialogue, the individual story was better BUT no lightsaber duel and didn't have the weight of the drama that Obi Wan Vs Anakin had so they're about even to me.

  • @kevthepoet

    @kevthepoet

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@harrambou9468 or you could look at this GQ article that put Rogue 1 at 3rd best and ROTS at 5th... www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/star-wars-movies-ranked-disney-plus "3. Rogue One (2016) Everyone dies, which is much more in the spirit of “Empire” than “Jedi”. It has great casting, especially Felicity Jones, Diego Luna and Forest Whitaker. The reprogrammed Imperial droid K-2SO is a neat idea and the kind of deftness lacking in both the prequels and the newer films, while the simple and pacy plot provides a really smart link to A New Hope. The sense of inevitable doom gives the audience a serious dosage of angst, which is obviously a good thing. Because it’s so well balanced between the Skywalker films and can live as a standalone story and it feels like proper Star Wars, that makes it pretty much a total success.

  • @terryprentice9657
    @terryprentice96574 жыл бұрын

    The Jedi "uniform" is a retcon, which kinda mentioned in the video. Not only does Uncle Owen wear "Jedi" robes, several people in Mos Eisley are dressed like this. It was just supposed to desert garb until TPM came out, when all of a sudden it's now the standard garb of Jedis. Back in the day, it was kinda assumed that Luke's outfit when he enters Jabba's palace was what a Jedi "uniform" looked like.

  • @justintrujillo8483

    @justintrujillo8483

    2 жыл бұрын

    i’m the rotj the force ghosts are all seen wearing this same outfit, even anikan so why would you assume that this is just a desert outfit when every jedi shown is wearing this sort of thing

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justintrujillo8483 Because in the original Star Wars, that's what it was. ROTJ is where the retcon starts. Rogue One fixes it though, by introducing Jedha, another desert planet as the origin point for the Jedi.

  • @myohmyDesign
    @myohmyDesign4 жыл бұрын

    Weekly Planet retcon: James is a clone… of a BUTT! HA! Got him!

  • @oaf-77

    @oaf-77

    4 жыл бұрын

    Boom. roasted.

  • @da_pikmin_coder8367

    @da_pikmin_coder8367

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good God you destroyed him, there's nothing left but a pile of ash.

  • @ziggy7676

    @ziggy7676

    4 жыл бұрын

    h8 mail but the h has an 8 at the end

  • @myohmyDesign

    @myohmyDesign

    4 жыл бұрын

    Da_Pikmin_Coder a pile of ash... in the shape of a BUTT! 🤣 Ha! Got him again!

  • @myohmyDesign

    @myohmyDesign

    4 жыл бұрын

    Zachary Wilcox my comment can't compete with the most recent H8 Mail feature. That stuff was pretty crazy.

  • @MitchCyan
    @MitchCyan4 жыл бұрын

    The Han that Ben talks to was a clone.

  • @EZ-IZZY1995

    @EZ-IZZY1995

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Clone that the Clone talks to in Clone Wars: The Cloniest Wars is also a Clone.

  • @dheneb587

    @dheneb587

    4 жыл бұрын

    what?

  • @Haiganon

    @Haiganon

    4 жыл бұрын

    JJ Abrams is a failed clone of George Lucas.

  • @TranscendentLion

    @TranscendentLion

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ben was also a clone, but not just any clone - he was a clone of the clone of the original Ben, who might also have been a clone.

  • @yoyo5441
    @yoyo54414 жыл бұрын

    James, pls tell us how to make mcflurrys at home , this is urgent

  • @jasperzeitz6121
    @jasperzeitz61214 жыл бұрын

    "It´s a guy named Jaster Mereel." "That´s a bad name... It´s very close to Jasper." ... I beg your f*cking pardon?

  • @anthonytrashboat

    @anthonytrashboat

    3 жыл бұрын

    AHAHAHA

  • @arc4859
    @arc48594 жыл бұрын

    How did y’all not talk about Ahsoka? Anakin having a padawan is probably one of the biggest retcons there is.

  • @Evan15

    @Evan15

    4 жыл бұрын

    Arc 48 good thing it worked

  • @benjaminklein8379

    @benjaminklein8379

    4 жыл бұрын

    They never said he didn’t so it is not a retcon

  • @arc4859

    @arc4859

    4 жыл бұрын

    Benjamin Klein It was always implied from everything that was shown that he never had one

  • @amazingtaco9797

    @amazingtaco9797

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ahsoka also met chewbacca.

  • @Hot18Shot

    @Hot18Shot

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@arc4859 Which implications though? Anikan was only mentioned in passing like three times throughout the original trilogy, then we see him between Episode 2 (the very start of the Clone Wars) and Episode 3 (the very end of the Clone Wars), not much mentioned in between. So while of course they did give Anakin a Padawan after the fact, I wouldn't say it was a retcon because it was never established the Anakin never had a Padawan, he was just never implied to have one outright in the movies.

  • @zprine
    @zprine4 жыл бұрын

    Chewie a la Elf: “Yoddddddddaaaaaa! I know him! I know him!”

  • @kevinangelsofjustice
    @kevinangelsofjustice4 жыл бұрын

    Actually three kisses. Leia kisses Luke for luck in the first death Star in a New Hope

  • @simonegreco1958

    @simonegreco1958

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was on the cheek

  • @kevinangelsofjustice

    @kevinangelsofjustice

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@simonegreco1958 It still counts

  • @simonegreco1958

    @simonegreco1958

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kevinangelsofjustice true

  • @jerryknuckles736

    @jerryknuckles736

    4 жыл бұрын

    It. Still. Counts.

  • @damianpimpinella977

    @damianpimpinella977

    4 жыл бұрын

    There’s also a deleted scene in empire where Luke and Leia kiss in the infirmary before everyone arrives. There are screen caps of it

  • @FordFourD-aka-Ford4D
    @FordFourD-aka-Ford4D4 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't stop laughing at the part about nobody understanding Chewie and Luke petting him. These kinds of stupid little off-the-cuff interactions between you two is what keeps me coming back again and again for more. (So far my personal favorite is still the one about Bruce Wayne hanging out with mobsters and encouraging them to tell him all about their crimes).

  • @loopdog8710

    @loopdog8710

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which video was that from?

  • @FordFourD-aka-Ford4D

    @FordFourD-aka-Ford4D

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jake Hewig This classic right here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i3-do9eidNzAhNY.html

  • @loopdog8710

    @loopdog8710

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D ah awesome I remember when that video came out

  • @marvelsomething1952

    @marvelsomething1952

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loopdog8710 batman vs Predator comic

  • @TechnicolorGhosts
    @TechnicolorGhosts4 жыл бұрын

    The best Star Wars retcon is the inclusion of Maclunkey in A New Hope.

  • @davidf8365
    @davidf83653 жыл бұрын

    I love to imagine that when Boba Fett goes back to torch the Sarlacc, he slips over and falls back in again...

  • @kossend1
    @kossend14 жыл бұрын

    Surely the biggest cop out retcon was Rey's parents not being nobody, but her father being the Emperor's son.

  • @Jwlar

    @Jwlar

    2 жыл бұрын

    Emperors clone*

  • @eman2863
    @eman28634 жыл бұрын

    Retcon : James was a goat man but now he’s just a man man

  • @spaceslav8954

    @spaceslav8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    James isn't a goat man?! Why?

  • @munohlow

    @munohlow

    4 жыл бұрын

    With a family too! Such bullshit

  • @gm2407

    @gm2407

    3 жыл бұрын

    Manman sounds like a star wars name.

  • @morkofork
    @morkofork4 жыл бұрын

    The real retcon: James & Maso are actually just Greg performing various characters.

  • @thisisfyne

    @thisisfyne

    4 жыл бұрын

    Impossible! I've never heard either of them slam a single door!

  • @Jerome616

    @Jerome616

    4 жыл бұрын

    fun fact:My dad once did a short stint as a radio host back in the 80's and had a bit where their were multiple people in the booth with him (think Howard stern) but all of them were actually just him.

  • @morkofork

    @morkofork

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Jerome616 That is fun

  • @expendableindigo9639

    @expendableindigo9639

    4 жыл бұрын

    Greg? You mean Ben?

  • @morkofork

    @morkofork

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@expendableindigo9639 No, James' wife. Her name is Greg.

  • @terryprentice9657
    @terryprentice96574 жыл бұрын

    The Kessel Run was totally retconned. It used to be a cluster of black holes called The Maw. The less parsecs you took to cross it, the likelier you would sucked into a black hole.

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina4 жыл бұрын

    My favourite retcom is in the book From A Certain Point Of View, they "reveal" that Greedo was drunk when he confronted Han Solo on the cantina and that's how he could miss a shot at such a short distance

  • @Mic1904
    @Mic19044 жыл бұрын

    10/10 for the X-Wing Alliance shot of the 'bacta delivery truck'. What a game.

  • @zcmini000
    @zcmini0004 жыл бұрын

    Initially... it was believed that "Han Solo" was called that because his first name was "Han" and his last name was "Solo". But in the movie "Solo" it was revealed that indeed, his first name was "Han" but some random Imperial Officer gave his the last name "Solo". Powerful stuff. Really adds a lot to the character and the lore.........

  • @errantvice7335
    @errantvice73354 жыл бұрын

    Well the first Death Star plans originally were several pieces of the combined plan assembled to find the weak point of the Death Star. Kyle Katarn only stole part of the plans, another set of the plans were taken from the Death Star itself, by a group of prisoners escaping the cell block, this is a campaign mission in Battlefront 2 (2005).

  • @themythicalguy8975
    @themythicalguy89754 жыл бұрын

    Can we talk about Palpatines first name it's sheeve that's ridiculous

  • @kevinm5940

    @kevinm5940

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always presumed 'Palpatine' was his full name. What kind of name is Sheev? That sounds like a bad rapper.

  • @swedsteve93

    @swedsteve93

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also known as "Creamy" Sheeve

  • @emilyiscool891

    @emilyiscool891

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kevin M he’s from an alien planet hundreds of galaxies away no one has a normal name in Star Wars you fuck

  • @kevinm5940

    @kevinm5940

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@emilyiscool891 the main character is literally called Luke

  • @emilyiscool891

    @emilyiscool891

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kevin M yeah and theres also a character called obi wan Kenobi and an other called jabba the hut

  • @nerdlevelmidnight
    @nerdlevelmidnight4 жыл бұрын

    Another retcon: Originally, nobody could understand R2 units. That's why C-3PO exists. Also, the X-wings would translate the R2 and display text to the pilot. Then in Episode 7, just about everybody understands BB-8.

  • @paolodebonis781
    @paolodebonis7814 жыл бұрын

    For the Legends retcon you mentioned earlier, they were actually "S-Canon" which meant that they could be ignored and for the most part they were ignored. For the A-Wing, it was a Double Retcon! where instead they confirmed it to be an R22 Spearhead instead of the typical A-Wing. Jabba was also an Alien Yak thing in the original comic

  • @bane2988
    @bane29884 жыл бұрын

    Jaster was retconned to be the mentor of Jango Fett, and both Jango and Boba were confirmed to have used Jaster's name as an alias, to save those stories.

  • @bangobuck8722
    @bangobuck87224 жыл бұрын

    The weirdest Star Wars retcon is “Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker”

  • @orbaitv5991

    @orbaitv5991

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not seeing much of it as retcon

  • @spaceslav8954

    @spaceslav8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    9 completely retconned 8. The sequels are a mess.

  • @deadshot5007

    @deadshot5007

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@spaceslav8954 meh at least they are fun to watch

  • @spaceslav8954

    @spaceslav8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@deadshot5007 Not really mate :/

  • @blyzer7373

    @blyzer7373

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@spaceslav8954 I think they are. I love and like episode 7 and 8 and episode 9 kinda fucked it all up by trying to backpadel instead of finishing the story that Episode 8 started. Definitely more enjoyable than the Prequels.

  • @ryanspengler4877
    @ryanspengler48774 жыл бұрын

    The Star Wars collectible card game also mentioned that Owen Lars was Obi-Wan's brother. That shit was weird when I was a kid...

  • @HoracioAmiritoDiaz
    @HoracioAmiritoDiaz4 жыл бұрын

    The person who was hinted at in ESB was originally a new character, Luke's twin sister named Nellith Skywalker. She was going to apparently be a Jedi trained from birth by a bunch of hiding Jedi somehow on the other side of the galaxy.

  • @moonj101
    @moonj1014 жыл бұрын

    Star wars retcon: rules to Sabacc. Original seen in rebels, New version seen in solo star wars story

  • @wyatttyson7737

    @wyatttyson7737

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Original seen in rebels" Boy the original was from so far before that. I don't even know what the original was, but I know the rules were discussed in Path of Destruction.

  • @Quirderph

    @Quirderph

    4 жыл бұрын

    Granted, it's not like different games using the same decks of cards don't exist in our universe...

  • @williamcuttill7919

    @williamcuttill7919

    4 жыл бұрын

    Quirderph true but originally it was a dice game

  • @moonj101

    @moonj101

    4 жыл бұрын

    WyattTyson - I was talking about first time (i saw it anyways) in the disney canon

  • @histguy101

    @histguy101

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is it anything like Fizbin? Because then I might know the rules.

  • @MrWhatdafuBOOM
    @MrWhatdafuBOOM4 жыл бұрын

    Grievous used to be a badass competent Jedi-killer. Now he's a moustache-twirling saturday morning cartoon villain.

  • @laundrybasketgamers

    @laundrybasketgamers

    3 жыл бұрын

    But he said general kenobi so ITS OK

  • @yoyo5441
    @yoyo54414 жыл бұрын

    Self isolation, a bit of weed and Mr Sunday movies, sorted.

  • @RogueBoyScout

    @RogueBoyScout

    4 жыл бұрын

    #GrabDatBong :P

  • @SlashManEXE
    @SlashManEXE4 жыл бұрын

    George Lucas had the general idea for Boba Fett being the sole survivor of a group of “Mandalorians” that were wiped out by the Jedi in the late 70s. It’s the expanded universe that tried to make him an anti hero, which lead to the double-retcon later

  • @ItsTheGuy77
    @ItsTheGuy774 жыл бұрын

    Mr Sunday Movies used to be a Goat man with a Han Solo outfit but now they've retconed him and he's just some random Australian bloke who likes big sandwiches. It's PC GONE MAAAAD! #HanSoloGoatManLivesMatter

  • @steve_en5903
    @steve_en59033 жыл бұрын

    The whole Obi Wan and Owen being brothers gets a lot of attention too as The actor who plays Owens real life brother was the stunt double for Obi Wan in attack of the clones

  • @supermansleftnut
    @supermansleftnut4 жыл бұрын

    Love it guys....please up the amount of videos to get us through the inevitable lockdown! ❤❤❤

  • @TheRossMadness
    @TheRossMadness4 жыл бұрын

    When I was a wee child, the films were first released on VHS and that's how my sister and I saw Star Wars for the first time and fell in love with it. We were gifted "The Official Star Wars Encyclopedia". In it, it said that Boba Fett was one of three brothers. Boba, Jango and a third whose name I've forgotten. I wish I could find more detail about that because clearly that was retconned.

  • @Reece_Hart
    @Reece_Hart4 жыл бұрын

    Deleted scene from Rebels. Maul shows up on Tatooine - "KENOBIII... wait you're not him. But you are wearing his clothes. Explain" Owen - "He's over there" Maul continues to go and get destroyed in lightsaber fight.

  • @des0163
    @des01634 жыл бұрын

    The McFlurry God has been angered. Your dreams will now be haunted by the COVID-19 flavoured McFlurry

  • @aworldreborn881

    @aworldreborn881

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oreo mcflu-rry of course

  • @macmuggo5459

    @macmuggo5459

    4 жыл бұрын

    Never mind the Covid McFlurry machine broke so we’ll just have to use a regular McFlurry

  • @catherinearizmendez1578
    @catherinearizmendez15784 жыл бұрын

    even for having 1 mil subs, this channel is deeply underrated. Its refreshing to see a channel with people who seriously know so much about star wars and films in general, while also being relaxed, funny, off the cuff, and consistent in content.

  • @captainbritain7379
    @captainbritain73794 жыл бұрын

    Loved the editing at the end!

  • @Kelis98
    @Kelis984 жыл бұрын

    Legends is canon, just in its own separate canon.

  • @strife2376

    @strife2376

    4 жыл бұрын

    it's canon. from a certain point of view...

  • @Kekkersboy

    @Kekkersboy

    4 жыл бұрын

    What you are talking about is they're both Canon but in different continuities

  • @oaf-77

    @oaf-77

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everything is canon!

  • @spaceslav8954

    @spaceslav8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nothing is canon

  • @spaceslav8954

    @spaceslav8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh wait. This is canon: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIWfxJt9h6bIips.html

  • @hueowen2786
    @hueowen27864 жыл бұрын

    As I was around back in 1983, I can tell you what actually happened with Owen and Obi-Wan being brothers. The novel was written by James Kahn based upon an early draft of the screenplay. There was an article in Starlog where Lucas was asked about the discrepancy. He explained that he told Kahn to not write the novel yet because the shooting script not been finalized and might have changes. Kahn wrote it anyway and somehow the final script never got to Kahn, so he turned in his original draft to the publisher and that included a scene of Obi-Wan's force ghost telling Luke that he and Owen were brothers. Years later, another story surfaced claiming that this was all intentional as back then, novels often came out before the movies they were based upon and this was intended as a misdirection so that fans who read the novel before seeing the film would not be in the know on everything. I tend to believe the original Starlog story, but who knows.

  • @armanddehorta
    @armanddehorta Жыл бұрын

    3:55 Glad to hear Mason's joke made it to the Kenobi show.

  • @rYaNwInS27
    @rYaNwInS274 жыл бұрын

    Editor Matt's montage after the list finished (when James and Maso were going back and forth) was a masterpiece.

  • @peytone5387
    @peytone53874 жыл бұрын

    Retcon: Bob Iger is not Mason’s dad

  • @blyzer7373

    @blyzer7373

    4 жыл бұрын

    Retcon: Bob Iger was made by Mephisto to pretend to be Mason's dad and once it's revealed, Mason has a mental breakdown while uttering the words "No more grabbing that gem".

  • @lyndsaybrown8471

    @lyndsaybrown8471

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mason is a clone of Bob Iger

  • @morkofork

    @morkofork

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, that's not true! That's impossible!

  • @samuelcooper5169
    @samuelcooper51693 жыл бұрын

    They called the boba reveal

  • @asdgty100
    @asdgty1004 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if it's because I understand all the Aussie references but you guys always leave me in stitches. Quality content always

  • @stevejames7930
    @stevejames79304 жыл бұрын

    I love ur videos man so engaging!!

  • @krusnik94
    @krusnik944 жыл бұрын

    I imagine when James and Mason kiss, it is a kiss of gratitude and acknowledgement of their connection

  • @slantedframes2334
    @slantedframes23344 жыл бұрын

    I have an interesting retcon. In the special editions, more rocks were retconned in front of R2-D2 when he's trying to find Obi-Wan

  • @DoctorBrokenToast
    @DoctorBrokenToast4 жыл бұрын

    The editing on this one was a bit more badass and fluent than usual. Good job Matt!

  • @apsychopuppet7923
    @apsychopuppet79234 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your star wars ones. I always learn something new

  • @MINTY_FN
    @MINTY_FN3 жыл бұрын

    I mean, isn't "I am your father" the ultimate retcon?

  • @burnsfamily8864
    @burnsfamily88644 жыл бұрын

    How could you not mention how Rogue One retconned Phineas and Ferb Star Wars?

  • @etonTEC
    @etonTEC Жыл бұрын

    That maso’s top 5 rebel ships but really encompasses why mr. Sunday movies is my top 1 spot for all comic book and movie news (and trivia).

  • @johnnycalrissian929
    @johnnycalrissian9294 жыл бұрын

    The "shhh" bit got me lol good edit Ben (:

  • @ReservoirDolphin

    @ReservoirDolphin

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was me, Matt but that’s okay and thanks!

  • @amboi7074
    @amboi70744 жыл бұрын

    There definitely needs to be a video based on the illiteracy theory on the starwars universe

  • @darthraver
    @darthraver3 жыл бұрын

    Anakin's name was in Empire Strikes Back, even before the Special Edition. The Emperor says "the offspring of Anakin Skywalker."

  • @mrsundaymovies

    @mrsundaymovies

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think in the original original he says "son of Skywalker" like in this clip: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pH-oxcuLc7nWdqg.html. Appreciate he comment though!

  • @johnd1466

    @johnd1466

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anaakin in the first Star Wars Paperback

  • @GuiOmania

    @GuiOmania

    2 жыл бұрын

    But even Kenner release a Anakin action figure in 1985 and its written Anakin Skywalker on the package lol !!!

  • @videodrome4331

    @videodrome4331

    2 жыл бұрын

    Obi-Wan speaks Anakin's name in 1983's ROTJ.

  • @Boringguy55
    @Boringguy554 жыл бұрын

    After all my time watching these videos and listening to the podcast, I am happy I can pull out these fun facts randomly and half remembered. Makes for great conversation based off of half truths.

  • @wilberforce95
    @wilberforce954 жыл бұрын

    fantastic editing and pulling of clips in this one, chaps.

  • @ReservoirDolphin

    @ReservoirDolphin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much!

  • @TrevortheBatman
    @TrevortheBatman4 жыл бұрын

    “Obi Wan and Owen are brothers because Anakin’s mom married Owen’s Dad...”

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc944 жыл бұрын

    *☼ **2:30** that was called "The Lies Jedi Tell Themselves" in my region.*

  • @thedick009
    @thedick0092 жыл бұрын

    One that always bugged me was the three primary lightsaber colours. In the original trilogy, and this could just be my interpretation, it seemed like Jedi were the only ones who used lightsabers, and all Jedi lightsabers were blue. Vader still used one because he was a former Jedi, and it was red to symbolize his turn to the dark side. The only other Sith we see, the Emperor, never uses a lightsaber and in fact seems to have a distaste for them when he calls is a "Jedi Weapon". Then I always thought Luke's blade in Return of the Jedi was green to sort of represent how he was forging his own new path of what it meant to be a Jedi, distinct from what came before him. Vader's red and Luke's green both felt unique to them as characters, and the blue felt unique to the old school Jedi order. It was a very neat and clever little way to underline those distinctions visually, I thought. Then in the prequels, or possibly some point before then, somebody decided that every single Sith had a red lightsaber, and every single Jedi had either blue or green. A really minor point, ultimately, but just another example of some brilliant little understated detail in the original movies that then got blown out and recycled into something cartoonishly stupid if you actually think about it

  • @iamsorenl
    @iamsorenl4 жыл бұрын

    Actually Palpatine drops the name Anakin Skywalker in Empire Strikes Back (1980). When Vader speaks to the hologram of Palpatine Palp says, “I have no doubt that he is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker”

  • @CWargh63
    @CWargh633 жыл бұрын

    I just had a thought - WHY does anybody have a jetpack that can be activated by a button that the being wearing said jetpack cannot reach? How many times was Boba, and before him, Jango ricocheting around the interior of Slave One after backing into an unfortunately placed control panel corner?

  • @danielbarry4013
    @danielbarry40134 жыл бұрын

    My favorite retcon is when the Knights of Ren were supposed to be good, then they changed that in The Rise of Skywalker.

  • @callumnicol1214
    @callumnicol12144 жыл бұрын

    Love the editor for you videos bois keep it up big man 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @Logos_Ghost
    @Logos_Ghost4 жыл бұрын

    another thing that was kind of retconned is with IG-88. in the novels, they had created 5 IG units in a special lab on Mechinus III(misspelled probably). The IG brothers killed their makers and went out to destroy all humanoids but decided to do bounty hunting to pay the bills or get into places, till Boba Fett wrecked like half of them and one of them died in the Death Star II. The retcon happens with all of the prequels and the Mandalorian showing that there are several IG models made before and after.

  • @bamleith3095
    @bamleith30954 жыл бұрын

    Obviously the most important retcon is maclunky! Also: Dexter Jettster being Rey's dad

  • @PaulDozierZZoMBiE13
    @PaulDozierZZoMBiE134 жыл бұрын

    I have nothing interesting to say or to add to the conversation, just wanting to make it rain "engagement" for your channel. Cheers!

  • @althaz

    @althaz

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think you just accidentally made the word "engagement" a euphemism. I don't know what for, but also, I don't *want* to know.

  • @PaulDozierZZoMBiE13

    @PaulDozierZZoMBiE13

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@althaz 🤣🤣🤣

  • @rook1513
    @rook15134 жыл бұрын

    Well done, gentlemen. This just might be my favorite channel, now. Sit semper vis vobiscum.

  • @RedStarRogue
    @RedStarRogue4 жыл бұрын

    I still remember reading Tales from the Bounty Hunters and wondering why they introduced Fett as Jaster Mereel when the Prequels said differently.

  • @dj__alien
    @dj__alien4 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: Anakin's father is a gonk droid

  • @darkmatter1721

    @darkmatter1721

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine in shimi's room, 9 months before Anakin is born, you hear a loud, low pitched "goooonk"

  • @Goodthrust69
    @Goodthrust694 жыл бұрын

    Star Wars: Revenge of The Last Skywalker was 98% retcons.

  • @RichardAcevedo2814
    @RichardAcevedo28143 жыл бұрын

    lol so where did we land on "Jaster Mereel?"

  • @echothevelociraptor9694
    @echothevelociraptor96944 жыл бұрын

    I love how there is so much personality and are so obviously not scripted

  • @p_nny3416
    @p_nny34164 жыл бұрын

    Now let’s just hope the next Star Wars retcon is that the new trilogy was just a nightmare Luke had after passing out from drinking too much green juice.

  • @oscarmccormack1611
    @oscarmccormack16114 жыл бұрын

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the novelization's of the Star Wars movie's are non-canon, because they're based on a pre-production script?

  • @orbaitv5991

    @orbaitv5991

    4 жыл бұрын

    The new novelizations aren't based on the pre-production script and are kinda canon but I don't know about the prequel or ot novels much

  • @Quirderph

    @Quirderph

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some of them (most notably the one for Revenge of the Sith) made deliberate changes to the dialogue and such. I think we'll have to consider them *adaptations* and not strictly canon compliant.

  • @adettewachet2512

    @adettewachet2512

    4 жыл бұрын

    The trilogie's novelizations was weird, but the prelogie's one was full canon (well legend) and fit perfectly in the EU. Same for the postlogie, but with less EU relation

  • @Unknown-hb3id

    @Unknown-hb3id

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always thought movies took priority over books in terms of contradicting canon.

  • @adettewachet2512

    @adettewachet2512

    4 жыл бұрын

    for the original trilogie, off course for the prelogie (in legend), this is not clear, but the book fit so well for the postlogie, who care, but the book are more coherent.

  • @Mitsuraga
    @Mitsuraga4 жыл бұрын

    Ah, so Maso loves the A-Wing. I, too, am a man of taste and class.

  • @AndrewWright1998
    @AndrewWright19984 жыл бұрын

    5:35 I could hear Mason’s stress filled breath at just the mention of Droids 😂

  • @martinprehn9353
    @martinprehn93534 жыл бұрын

    the Sith were never meant to use lightsabers originally. That's why the emperor says "ahh... A JEDI's weapon - much like your father's" when he first meets Luke in the orig trig (even though Luke's lightsaber really looks nothing like Anakin's). The only reason Vader has one is because he used to be a Jedi, and it amuses Palpatine to twist their image to his own design, mocking them. A true Sith was always meant to use mind manipulation (and the occasional lightning).

  • @hunterkiller1440
    @hunterkiller14404 жыл бұрын

    I want to hear people complaining about these canon being wiped as behemoth as the current legends.

  • @xprophecy1
    @xprophecy1 Жыл бұрын

    Also, in a concept for Star Wars - the original protagonist, Deak Skywalker, had a brother called Annikin, which obviously was then scrapped, and the name was reappropriated for his father later in the franchise development.

  • @Syrinx-Priest
    @Syrinx-Priest4 жыл бұрын

    So glad to know I’m not the only one who remembers reading the tale of Jaster Mereel. Love that name, by the way.

  • @SmokeyLaBear
    @SmokeyLaBear4 жыл бұрын

    10:41 - everybody says Ben Solo shrugs. It ain't a shrug, it's a bow. Watch it again. Ben bows before his mates before slaughtering them.

  • @christostryfonopouls5204

    @christostryfonopouls5204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Smokey La Bear i saw it as a sort of taunt, not a shrug. Like he’s saying “well?”

  • @Solo-Skywalker

    @Solo-Skywalker

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was a bow.

  • @birdmanbob05

    @birdmanbob05

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's definitely a shrug in the sense of his father. It's literally obvious

  • @BackThatSassUp

    @BackThatSassUp

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah no

  • @thegloriouskingkronk8422
    @thegloriouskingkronk84224 жыл бұрын

    Could the fact that Korkie looks like the child of Satine and Obi Wan and is allegedly Satine's nephew be considered a retcon

  • @histguy101

    @histguy101

    4 жыл бұрын

    Luke kinda looks like Obi-Wan too.ehh?

  • @unearnedopinion
    @unearnedopinion4 жыл бұрын

    Great Edit!

  • @helenwaldeck185
    @helenwaldeck1854 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! there are so many clones, unlabelled panels and buttons and levers lol

  • @oaf-77
    @oaf-774 жыл бұрын

    Obi wans robes were never supposed to be a ‘Jedi Uniform’ they were just what people wore in the desert.

  • @Quirderph

    @Quirderph

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think they had become jedi robes by the time they shot that ghost scene.

  • @blyzer7373

    @blyzer7373

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Then George fucked it all up by making them "jedi robes"

  • @WaltOGrams

    @WaltOGrams

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunate side effect of making Obi-Wan look like an absolute moron. Obi-Wan: I'm gonna hide on this sand planet, where no one will know I'm a Jedi. I WILL NOT buy new clothes.

  • @histguy101

    @histguy101

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@blyzer7373 Actually, thats not true. Obi Wan is dressed like a Samurai with a wizard robe and riding boots. He's wearing an elaborate layered tunic with double tabards, he has an "Obi"(sash) around his waste with a belt over it. He wears a hooded cloak over that. Owen is wearing simple peasant garb with a bathrobe over it. They're only similar colors. When we see Luke in Return of the Jedi, he's dressed just like Obi Wan was, or like Obi Wan in the Prequels, but in all black and brown. Then there's Yoda...

  • @ChangedMyNameFinally69

    @ChangedMyNameFinally69

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Quirderph I always say that as just giving Anakin Obi-Wan's outfit so they didn't have to design a new outfit for a five second scene and so him and Obi-Wan would stand together as brothers.

  • @geoscope3399
    @geoscope33994 жыл бұрын

    Looking at it from the future the clones were the bad guys. They’re the ones who killed the Jedi

  • @rorybrendonbarker1893
    @rorybrendonbarker18934 жыл бұрын

    Well done as always gentlemen

  • @ThisFinalHandle
    @ThisFinalHandle4 жыл бұрын

    you 2 are my favorite radio DJs. You better be isolating together for my entertainment.

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