That picture of the thumbs up made me very happy for some reason. I feel very appriciated. Awesome guide my friend

Superb guide there bro , very helpful . This is the best guide there if you want to learn advance mishimas techniques . Keep this kind of content coming so that we can learn more from it ! Thank you for the efforts for Tekken FGC community !

There's a typo at the notation of ewgf combo #7 (13:47), there's no 2 jab at the end of the combo! Sorry about that. Edit #1: You can also do an ewgf with f, d, df+2 (see the second version of otgf and pewgf) with ALL the Mishimas! But this version of ewgf is 13 frames ONLY for Kazuya. With the rest (Devil Jin, Heihachi, Jin) it's 14 frames despite skipping neutral. This is because with the others d lasts for 2 frames, while in Kazuya's case it lasts for 1 frame. Edit #2: About the tip about Kazuya's right arm regarding df2 pewgf, take it with a grain of salt. The timing varies depending on the input lag. Input lag can be caused by the monitor you're playing on or by online lag. In the first case, you can learn the timing on your monitor and realize it doesn't work on your friend's monitor. So you might have to change your timing depending on the setup you're playing on.

@aaron.biketrials

4 жыл бұрын

Accident's happen, awesome tutorial otherwise. I learned a lot, thank you!

Nice guides man its great to see your channel improving

Dude thanks a lot your explanation is soo clear and detailed ❤️

Epic guide dude!😄 This helped alot!😊

It's nice that you included the fact you should practise those moves in combos, so people get used to the fact that you won't do an omen or ewgf while having your fingers /wrist places perfectly, since those moves most likely will come out after alot of movement, moves or back stepping for whiff punish. Quite common mistake for new players spam moves like that on a dummy.

Well, here's the tip I used to get consistent OTGF and EWGF. EWGF : f,n,d,df+2 The technique is performing 2 during d so the game thinks it's d,df+2. OTGF, practice df+1 input. I personally do 1~df which gives me df+1. Then do OTGF just like EWGF's technique; by doing 1 earlier than df to get the just-frame df1 input

Very nice guide the first detailed with a Pad thanks a lot....

Finally some good guide on theese mishimas

Suddenly after watch your video I learned the otgf and pewgf thanks

added this to my help list, thank you PO!

@Claweddigger09

4 жыл бұрын

Filipino ba sya?

Thanks man. I’ll practice!

Honestly, when I first saw EWGF and Omen, I thought it was impossible. The way I learned was EWGF is just a shoryuken input. But it’s not necessarily about speed. Slowing down a but improved consistency for me.

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

Consistency is a priority, but it and speed are equally important in the long run.

@KILLzone_565

4 жыл бұрын

Project omen gr for sure. Once I got the input down, I implemented speed. I’m still in the process of getting Omen fast and consistent.

@umerxdd7522

2 жыл бұрын

@@KILLzone_565 omg I thought I was the only one who learned pewgf by a shoryulen input

I had no idea you could do omen like a pewgf. This changes a lot. Thank you!

@35oo

4 жыл бұрын

I would say in the dpad i developed different motions or muscle memories for both sort of speaking , but on the arcade stick which I'm still learning on i feel like that they are very similar , i even think that if you can't do one you wouldn't be consistent with other , but thankfully i think i already stabilized them on the stick after two weeks .

@aaron.biketrials

4 жыл бұрын

@@35oo I'm saving for pc and stick atm. Electrics come easy after 6 months on and of in practice mode. I will get omens down! Just not sure which stick to get?

@35oo

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaron.biketrials there is a misconception about the stick being easier than the d-pad , i would say for certain aspects it is and then there things which supposed to be easy and turn out to be hard , whatever you use if you are going to put the effort into it you are going to sucssed , and due to the misconception people tend to put their efforts into learning the stick rather than the d-pad , i would say the stick is smoother nonetheless , i was always been able to get the best results with the d-pad but couldn't prevent injuries , but when i used the stick i felt like everything is smooth and no signs of any injuries, at least until now , and overall I'm enjoying it more , put my number one priority is to either prevent or minimise damages.

@aaron.biketrials

4 жыл бұрын

@@35oo I started in the arcades back in the 90's playing street fighter, only started gaming again in the past year or so on consol. I find stick easier because theirs more to move, if that makes sense? I find I miss in put a lot when side step ewgf or when back dashing on pad.

@35oo

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaron.biketrials i do understand and that the tiring part for me right now its more fun but it takes a lot of energy , where the d-pad wouldn't but would feel kind of stale.

That was an awesome video. Even though it won't help me cuz i am scrub, i will for sure use your tips :P

Nice tutorial

Dude you're insane with otgf i can do it like 1/10

@thisisbaxter1354

4 жыл бұрын

1/10 after endless trying...

@Jovane2707

3 жыл бұрын

Practice my guy, try p2 side, eventually I learnt how wavedash cancel with a ff input then do the omen immediately or sidestep by by pressing up or down to reset to neutral. It’s just commitment and. Practise anyone can do it 🤠

Never fails to impress.... I needed the pewgf to ch df2.... So basically u mean I need to watch out kazuya's hand

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

That's what helped me. Look at the df2 pewgf in the video and then the slowed down clip. Look for whatever helps you (the opponent, Kazuya's hand, Kazuya's leg, whatever).

Amazing.

Great. I love how you show which areas of the thumb you use to press the directions, nobody else explains this stuff. Love the devil may cry music too, good memories :D

Thank you very much for this Sir, as a pad player i'm really grateful to see this type of content, kudos to you. Hope to see a KBD guide 😂😂

Me: i think Heihachi is difficult to use.. Heihachi: OHH YEAHH~!!! Great tutorial! Keep up the content 🤟🤟🤟

Nice

Im good (goes back to Katarina) lmao

Hey, have you ever thought of making a Heihachi guide? I’m starting to get really interested in this character more and more, and I would love to learn how to utilize his tools more effectively.

does the second version of the omen input like not work anymore?? my inpurs are exactly the same (➡️⬇️↘️1) but it wont omen

Mishima blood runs through your veins

Personally i think the speed aspect is way harder... I checked with frame overlay and got the f input frameperfect way more than the quarter circle motion. thanks alot

Nice Vid man it really helps since im a Mishia and Armor king player..... can you do How to wave dash in pad?

Dope thumb nail

This is helpful but how do you do kazuyas f df2 ewgf from dash? all i get is regular df2 when i do it from a dash

@darkR1der1312

3 жыл бұрын

You can't. It's like otgf. You can't do it from a dash unless you cancel it first.

@Hisokablack29

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkR1der1312 oof thats gonna be tricky im still trinna get the timing down for a regular one

Help whenever I try to perform the otgf it always result in demon upper cut or df1 and please provide the link of this bgm mode

How do you connect the b21 after the second ewhf? Combo #5. I can't seem to connect it for some reason

@mac8009

4 жыл бұрын

dash, a tiny one

I keep practicing kazuyas pewgf, and still, I can't seem to launch my opponent, eventhough I always do fddf 2. :'(

I just keep getting 2 Dfs during the OTGF idk wtf to change

The OTGF is so hard to do on pad for me I can wavedash and ewgf but not otgf I don't get it

Please create a guide on how to do it smoother on stick please thank you

Df2 Pewgf is the only thing i cant do, but i can do pewgf?

i shall practice 😭 it's really hard to keep going after an 30 mins

@lmyoursonTekken

3 жыл бұрын

Keep going! It works

Awesome guide as always! Can u do a wavedash guide too?

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

If enough people are interested I guess I could do that.

@richigirinarami276

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkR1der1312 i am

@DrBaduba

4 жыл бұрын

Me too!

I thought there was supposed to be no neutral in pewgf? The first one you did was f n df2 though right?

brother please give a back dash video demo on ps4 controller

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

If enough people are interested I will.

@notoriousgodfist

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkR1der1312 yes, make a video on kbd on d-pad. I can do normal back dash, but when i try kbd there are a lot of miss inputs. Please make a video on kbd on d-pad.

@elpepe8285

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkR1der1312 Yeah basically the position of the thumb is the difficult part. And even worse if you switch to your non main side

Watched countless guides and have been trying to play Hei for over a year now. I give up

how to remove the neutral input on pad?

@darkR1der1312

Жыл бұрын

You press the next button immediately after letting go of the previous button. Easier said than done, but that's how it is.

What stick do you use?

does a neutral input mean you dont press anything for a short bit?

@darkR1der1312

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Alternatively, it means you let go of any button you're pressing for a short bit.

Anybody here using normal keyboard? I can do just frame skyrocket, ewgf and otgf fine..but I haven’t done pewgf even once using normal keyboard...should I give up keyboard and convert to pad/stick?

@elpepe8285

4 жыл бұрын

Wag pre. Sadyang mahirap lang talaga pewgf pero practice lang.

@hida_berserker

4 жыл бұрын

@@elpepe8285 oo pre di ko magive up rgb keyboard eh haha

@elpepe8285

4 жыл бұрын

@@hida_berserker Sayang ibang functions ng keyboard haha pero depende naman sayo kung may spare keyboard ka naman. Parang feel mo din kasi na pro ka pag naka stick e haha

Knee is the best Korea 1st

this mans really did omen into dash ewgf then into another omen. I'm done.

Hey bro can I join ur ps party and maybe u can show me on shareplay I really need help

I can kazuya and heihachi (P) EWGF without fail 10/10 but when it comes to jin both of em is really freaking hard I can't even execute 5/10 more like 3 - 4 time in out of 10

Playing mishimas with a pad reduces the pad's lifetime by a lot. The arrows stop working correctly and after 1 year you end up buying another one. Maybe it's just me.

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

My ps2/ps3 pads are still working after 10+ years of usage. My ps4 pad was working for 2 years until the membrane under the arrow buttons was torn, just recently. Which is the most common problem with pad users who play Tekken. You don't have to buy a whole new controller, there are ps4 membranes on the internet you can get (or membranes for whatever controller you're using) for like 10% of the controller's price, maybe less. Then you have to open up your pad and replace the torn one.

@Elivanse

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkR1der1312 Good to know, I was thinking of switching to stick for that.

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, sticks can take the abuse, whereas pads... not so much lol

ewgf=HUM! mist ewgf=DORYA!

Now how to control mishima hell sweep hei gives me L

@xnaif9934

4 жыл бұрын

practice mode buddy

Those who use analog stick instead d pad any tip on that

@Phoenix-pb4sm

4 жыл бұрын

You have to switch. There's a reason the vast majority of controller players use the dpad. It's because it's far more precise and consistent.

sure its cool and all but after i sidestep that, oooooh.....who knows what might happen

i can't input quickly like you so i will never get F,D without a space .......... I dropped this game when i understood that ( what a sad way to end )

@xnaif9934

4 жыл бұрын

lol relatable that was me when I realized that my reactions are too slow n I can't block or avoid shit but keep trying I regret dropping it now

Gaaaa

I had to pause on the part where you use the part of your thump to press df. No seriously I did pause cuz I was dying lmao

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'll give you that

And I can't even wavedash on pad :(

You like DMC

Hardest part of all of this is wavedashing on pad lol.

@atulcanhandle

4 жыл бұрын

not really, wavedashing is much harder on stick... I use both.

@mrkruzjr

4 жыл бұрын

@@atulcanhandle Same here, and I was also referring to myself. I can do it on stick but not pad. And ive been using pad longer

U do all that with just gamepad

@darkR1der1312

4 жыл бұрын

Yep.

i tink practicing electrics is very expensive for a beginner or intermediate becu you will ruin your controller for sure its a fast movement the dpad is worth 60 euros its way to expensive the cheapest way to olay mishsimas is playing on keyboard or arcade stick

just get a mix box problem solved lol

to master electrics u need to give it a time no gf or wife ir any distraction even work if u want to be pefect at tekken it should be a job not ahoby becus it comnsumes u