Ted Dibiase - How Vince McMahon Turned WWF into Smut (1999)

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Ted Dibiase discusses how Vince McMahon turned the World Wrestling Federation into a smut product in the 90s. Stream the Full Shoot Interview 📺 TitleMatchNetwork.com
Former WWF/WCW star and WWE Hall of Famer Ted Dibiase talks about how Vince McMahon treated him better than any promoter and paid him better as well. At the same time, Ted says Vince turned pro wrestling into something disgraceful as the 90s went on.
McMahon was competing not only with WCW and ECW Wrestling but also with mainstream shows like Jerry Springer and others.
Originally produced by RF Video Inc in 1999. Licensed for distribution on Title Match Network.
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  • @TitleMatchWrestling
    @TitleMatchWrestlingАй бұрын

    Enjoy the Full Ted Dibiase Shoot Interview (1999) ➡TitleMatchNetwork.com

  • @celestialscripture
    @celestialscripture15 күн бұрын

    This interview was a quarter of a century ago, and could just as well have been conducted today. Just goes to show, the truth is beyond the constraints of time and space.

  • @stillhuman4662

    @stillhuman4662

    7 күн бұрын

    True that. The words hold even more weight now 👍

  • @joearmstrong3866

    @joearmstrong3866

    5 күн бұрын

    Yep, take it back to when he was getting his break from Vince they said similar things said then. More things change more things stay the same.

  • @boocackeedquackhead8454

    @boocackeedquackhead8454

    4 күн бұрын

    It was an idiotic interview of a man essentially blaming violent videogames on real world tragedies. This narrative has been disproven time and time again, and the era he was complaining about blew his own era out of the water. The "anti hero" he was too scared to name is still the most profitable pro wrestler of all time.

  • @AskAdam28
    @AskAdam28Ай бұрын

    I met Ted twice. He's amazing. I have a few personal stories about Ted that I'd rather not share here, but during a dark time, my best friend got in touch with Ted and he sent me a personal message that I added in the introduction to one of my poetry books. My friend still keeps in touch with him.

  • @mikethomas926

    @mikethomas926

    25 күн бұрын

    I had no clue he was so lovable, intelligent and reasonable.

  • @BotchoBadness

    @BotchoBadness

    19 күн бұрын

    @@mikethomas926 ​ What he wrote for him was just "Everybody's got a price! HAHAHAHAHAHA!"

  • @TheCaptainSlappy

    @TheCaptainSlappy

    14 күн бұрын

    @@BotchoBadness Or- "Indictments don't mean nothin'!"

  • @IDontBuyIt50

    @IDontBuyIt50

    3 күн бұрын

    @@mikethomas926 are you guys aware that he is a part of the Brett Favre stolen welfare money as well? Real lovable guy to steal from the poor.

  • @billybank2012
    @billybank2012Ай бұрын

    the emotion on his face....you can feel it .... shows how much he cares for the wrestling...and he is right ...

  • @WatchingTrainsGoBy-PassingTime

    @WatchingTrainsGoBy-PassingTime

    26 күн бұрын

    Still a mark for him. Good for you lol

  • @emir0324

    @emir0324

    12 күн бұрын

    What if he’s acting he did that well for a living

  • @boocackeedquackhead8454

    @boocackeedquackhead8454

    4 күн бұрын

    He is not right. Wrestling has never been responsible for school shootings and the whacky overall narrative he was trying to make.

  • @ikjb8561
    @ikjb8561Ай бұрын

    Well said. The wrestling of today is unrecognizable.

  • @skygun5013

    @skygun5013

    Ай бұрын

    This is a 1999 recording. He's not talking about the wrestling today.

  • @laoch5658

    @laoch5658

    Ай бұрын

    its better today than 1999

  • @shingoku999999

    @shingoku999999

    17 күн бұрын

    @@laoch5658 Better today than attitude era? LOL

  • @boocackeedquackhead8454

    @boocackeedquackhead8454

    4 күн бұрын

    The wrestling today, at least in wwe, is more like the snoozefest he praised. Boring 30 minute matches, I suppose they are much less believable though.

  • @pawlpoche8736
    @pawlpoche8736Ай бұрын

    I meant Ted at a target or a Walmart one day in San Diego in 91. I was in the navy. Me and a friend were buying a football 🏈 to throw in a park. He was buying a duffel bag I asked very nervously “do yo have a 🖊 pen to sign an autograph? Of course he didn’t And Why would he He said hi and left And I remember say to myself damn his head and body is sooo big 😂 Love ya Ted 😂 Love the Bible!!!!❤

  • @wh5027

    @wh5027

    20 күн бұрын

    He was very strong for his size. I remember him power slamming huge dudes.

  • @MikeDerucki0

    @MikeDerucki0

    17 сағат бұрын

    It would be even funnier if it was a basketball and he smacked it away after telling you to dribble it

  • @joeharm8141
    @joeharm8141Ай бұрын

    He is exactly right & one of the main reasons why I quit watching wrestling..:it’s junk anymore

  • @steveanders3086

    @steveanders3086

    Ай бұрын

    It was always fake junk

  • @bluwng

    @bluwng

    Ай бұрын

    @@steveanders3086idiot with an idiots opinion who doesn’t pay attention to detail.

  • @nhdjoseywales
    @nhdjoseywales9 күн бұрын

    He is right and when Vince turned away from those morality plays and turned everyone into bad gimmicks i checked out. Ted is a smart guy, I gotta find more interviews with him.

  • @KingRandor82
    @KingRandor82Ай бұрын

    I actually very much enjoyed the WWF lead-up *to* the Attitude Era, but not so much the actual Era itself. I checked out around 2005. Stuff from the 80s/early-mid 90s was the real gold.

  • @ColorsBright

    @ColorsBright

    Ай бұрын

    The 96/97 years of WWF are my favorite.. the morphing into the Attitude Era was great.

  • @kaminator515

    @kaminator515

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @KingRandor82

    @KingRandor82

    29 күн бұрын

    @@ColorsBright "Triple H" bored me; Hunter Hearst-Helmsley *didn't*

  • @depletable

    @depletable

    15 күн бұрын

    It should’ve been an arc to have villains win for a while, but then lose per usual. But that’s when I stopped watching.

  • @StarBoyyX

    @StarBoyyX

    9 күн бұрын

    Checked out also in the pg era 04/05 WM18 - attitude era was the best , early 90s to 05 , liked wcw aswell late 90s

  • @JohnCrawford1979
    @JohnCrawford1979Ай бұрын

    No pun intended, but Ted Dibiase was on the money with this one.

  • @WinstonWolfe21

    @WinstonWolfe21

    27 күн бұрын

    He’s perfectly aligned with Bret Hart here

  • @MIKEJ788

    @MIKEJ788

    15 күн бұрын

    ​​@@WinstonWolfe21 VERY TRUE! 💯

  • @jaklumen

    @jaklumen

    8 күн бұрын

    ​​@@WinstonWolfe21I dunno. I suspect Brett took "the deal" and Vinny took revenge for Brett insisting he give him an uppercut punch. Yeah, I think that was put into the whole Faustian bargain that the Screwjob was. Respond however you like; I don't especially care too much if it's negative

  • @carlchavis4714
    @carlchavis4714Ай бұрын

    Ty so much for what you do, and i never looked at the Owen heart situation like that. RIP owen and thank you for the word

  • @rodneywoodcock8235
    @rodneywoodcock8235Ай бұрын

    I miss the golden era of Wrestling in the 1980's with Hogan, Savage, Piper, Andre, Flair, Road Warriors and so many others. Like Ted says, it was just simply wrestling and a play on good and evil. There will never be another era quite like it.

  • @KingRandor82

    @KingRandor82

    Ай бұрын

    Even Brutus Beefcake stated a few years ago that the industry is now dying.

  • @leroyberry2181

    @leroyberry2181

    Ай бұрын

    The golden Era was the fifties and sixties not the eighties Vince Mc machons and Paul's spin on things is incredible

  • @Rick-si1re

    @Rick-si1re

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, this is the best era of the WWF imho at least

  • @pwx13

    @pwx13

    Ай бұрын

    The talent doesn't exist anymore

  • @exclamationpointman3852

    @exclamationpointman3852

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly man IT TICK ME OFF THAT VINCE MESSED THAT UP!!!!!!! HE HAD PEOPLE HAVING SEX IN FRONT OF KIDS AND REPEATEDLY ASKED PEOPLE TO STRIP IN FRONT OF AUDIENCES - ALL THIS LEGAL STUFF HE INVOLVED WITH NOW IS OWN HIS OWN HE: THE PERSON WHO REALLY SHOULD HAVE TOLD VINCE "NO" WAS VINCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @georgehenry76
    @georgehenry76Ай бұрын

    Loved Virgil. Met him on the sports betting floor at the MGM in 97. Super nice guy.

  • @grandeofrenzo3112
    @grandeofrenzo3112Ай бұрын

    I like when the old guys say WW F

  • @crazyvoice12
    @crazyvoice1214 сағат бұрын

    This is completely on point and even more true today. I'm thankful for KZread where I can reference the wrestling I grew up on.

  • @anthonylively9264
    @anthonylively9264Ай бұрын

    God bless you Ted ..... thank you 4 speaking the Truth !

  • @Rumble225-qe7fy
    @Rumble225-qe7fyАй бұрын

    They were pulling in more adults back then. Even people who didn’t even like pro wrestling initially started tuning in. At end of day it worked and remains most popular time that even today most fans want that back.

  • @JohnMacintyre-cl5nu

    @JohnMacintyre-cl5nu

    Ай бұрын

    I LEFT AFTER THE ATTITUDE ERA AN WAS MORE A MMA FAN MY DAUGHTER GREW UP WATCHING MMA BUT WE STARTED WATCHING OLD WRESTLING MATCHES LIKE HOGAN AN THE ROCK TORONTO!!, AN I TOLD HER "" DONT LOOK AT THIS AS A FAKE FIGHT LOOK AT IT AS YOUR WATCHING A BROADWAY PLAY WITH STUNT MEN/WOMEN" SHE INSTANTLY GOT IT! GBYAA!!!!!!!!!!

  • @heinrichvonwicker168

    @heinrichvonwicker168

    Ай бұрын

    It wasn't the most popular, I'm not sure where you get that... Saturday Night Main Events had between 30 and 40 MILLION people watching, attitude era didn't come close to that...

  • @Rumble225-qe7fy

    @Rumble225-qe7fy

    Ай бұрын

    WWE highest grossing years were 1998 and 1999 back to back. Stone Cold was the highest selling superstar in merch not even Jon Cena got anywhere close to that mark.

  • @chozahfearless7524

    @chozahfearless7524

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@heinrichvonwicker168 they were not pulling attitude Era numbers in the 80s not weekly at least. Not only that wwf and WCW were pulling huge numbers! No offense but your seeing the 80s through rose colored answered.

  • @heinrichvonwicker168

    @heinrichvonwicker168

    Ай бұрын

    @@chozahfearless7524 Wasn't even alive in the 80s, these are verifiable facts. Not sure why you can't accept it...

  • @adm712
    @adm712Ай бұрын

    Think about how much the WWF changed from 1990 (when Ted was part of it) to 1999 (this interview)? It's amazing when you think about it.

  • @zaryalace7475

    @zaryalace7475

    Ай бұрын

    It is amazing how out of all the mediums, professional wrestling is probably the one that best captures and showcases the transition of fads in society and culture. It's the perfect time capsule.

  • @adm712

    @adm712

    Ай бұрын

    @@zaryalace7475 1990-"Train, say your prayers and eat your vitamins". 1999-"I've got two words for ya, suck it!!!".

  • @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520

    @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520

    Ай бұрын

    It's incredible really. It became a different world. It really felt like a soap opera by 1998, the presentation was very much a TV show over a sport product.

  • @artesliberalis2390
    @artesliberalis2390Ай бұрын

    Great interview. I agree with Ted Dibiase .

  • @millcityflexxx4770
    @millcityflexxx477020 күн бұрын

    From 85 till 92 was the best era ,,, golden era

  • @TheCaptainSlappy

    @TheCaptainSlappy

    19 күн бұрын

    Guess what all the "experts" of the failed WCW/WWE era want to try again, so it can collapse the industry just one more time like Vinny Mac, Russo, Cornette & Bischoff did all those years ago? If you said Jerry Springer degenerate garbage...you were right. None of those "experts" are even in the industry anymore. From the high of a 11.6 rating during the Golden Hogan Era, to now less than the population of Jamaica (2.8 million). Now barely busting 0.24% of the entire American population in relevancy. Floated totally by investors from hedge funds running degenerate gambling ponzi scams. "Never doing better!" are the "wrestling expert" chants..."Business is great!" their marks claim...all while the industry is DOA, with no new customers outside advertisers needing tax dodging and money laundering schemes, with nothing to show for it but their customer & talent victims scattered around the coliseum floor (the FBI is currently cleaning up the mess as you might know).

  • @uuuultra

    @uuuultra

    14 күн бұрын

    nah man Attitude

  • @keithbrundage827

    @keithbrundage827

    2 күн бұрын

    So true!!!!

  • @user-eu1rf3vm7h
    @user-eu1rf3vm7hАй бұрын

    You are spot on MR. Dibiase.THANKYOU for speaking truth.

  • @ebatts29
    @ebatts29Ай бұрын

    Big Truth…wresting is in no way the same as the good old days

  • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw

    @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw

    Ай бұрын

    that scatological demon Vince imposed his sick mind on it. then people used to take their kids to see that sick BS. with half naked women running around.

  • @skygun5013

    @skygun5013

    Ай бұрын

    What do you consider the good old days?

  • @ebatts29

    @ebatts29

    Ай бұрын

    @@skygun5013 the 80s

  • @StarBoyyX
    @StarBoyyX9 күн бұрын

    Speaking facts , I grew up on the attitude era and loved it , we still had morals and values but I feel they have faded away in todays society , the last 15 or so years

  • @Exist2Inspire87

    @Exist2Inspire87

    2 күн бұрын

    lol he IS talking about the Attitude Era this interview is from 1999.

  • @keithalcorn7050
    @keithalcorn7050Ай бұрын

    Well said, Ted.

  • @Biscuitdough

    @Biscuitdough

    Ай бұрын

    Not really bro

  • @keithalcorn7050

    @keithalcorn7050

    Ай бұрын

    @@Biscuitdough Why not really, bro?

  • @exclamationpointman3852

    @exclamationpointman3852

    Ай бұрын

    Very well!!!

  • @realcane9908

    @realcane9908

    11 күн бұрын

    @@keithalcorn7050 @Biscuitdough is a shallow thinker

  • @boocackeedquackhead8454

    @boocackeedquackhead8454

    4 күн бұрын

    Poorly said. He was doing the wrestling equivilent of videogames causing violence.

  • @rolliemosley
    @rolliemosleyАй бұрын

    I think it's a difference between the Golden Era and Attuide era fans. I hated the Attuide era as a Southern fan when i was young. I hated the short regins and short matches. Consistent Interviews. But now, 20 years later, boy, we all wish it was back! Once it grew on me. With the Monday night wars, what i time to be alive!

  • @ArcadeOfKaos
    @ArcadeOfKaos21 күн бұрын

    That's because Ted DiBiase was the one pushing the limits of the line at the time

  • @Unpopular_Duality.
    @Unpopular_Duality.Ай бұрын

    I'm so glad an old school veteran of wrestling is saying this. I've been saying the very same thing for years. Ted just articulated my thoughts into words vastly better than I could. I imagine modern wrestling can still be appealing for the modern wrestling fans while still having the basic foundations on what it was built from. There is a place for the fan loved heels, antiheroes, excessive violence when used sparingly, and light application of smut to sell tickets and get people invested but I believe the core of wrestling should and forever be how Ted described it. That is the wrestling I fell in love with as a kid and wanted to see modernized and grow to be better than it was in the past. It's sad that now everyone hates babyfaces like they're the heels and want them beaten up by the heels while cheering them like they're the babyfaces. Good is boring nowadays and being bad is cool and hyped to the moon.

  • @theboombody
    @theboombody15 күн бұрын

    The smut didn't draw me into the WWF. Goldberg's push drew me AWAY from WCW. But I was the exception rather than the rule.

  • @GeoffNelson
    @GeoffNelsonАй бұрын

    So well put!

  • @banksta3
    @banksta3Ай бұрын

    I was born in 82, so I was about 8 when 1st dipped my toes into wrestling. Hulk Hogan was still hanging on to his "Take your vitamins and say your prayers" stuff. Macho Man was still doing his Madness thing. The Million Dollar Man was the biggest jerk on TV, but I still liked him. The Undertaker was maybe just starting, which is kinda the beginning of the Anti-hero stuff. But it wasn't till probably 93 that I started really watching it. It was still kinda pure, with Yokozuna was that classic ethnic monster heel. A couple of years later, when Sunny became a sex symbol, things started turning into smut.

  • @artistryspectrum512
    @artistryspectrum512Ай бұрын

    The 90's era was amazing, it slowly shifted and everyone slowly moved away from it. UFC and mma became the successor.

  • @g.needler2292
    @g.needler2292Ай бұрын

    One thing is for certain, most heels are cheered today and they seem to win most of the time.

  • @northernbohemianrealist1412
    @northernbohemianrealist1412Ай бұрын

    I stopped buying tickets when the AWA fell apart. I couldn't take the looney-cartooney WWF, which was geared toward five year-olds.

  • @michaelpalermo354

    @michaelpalermo354

    Ай бұрын

    You used to see the AWA live?

  • @InTheKnow2011

    @InTheKnow2011

    Ай бұрын

    AWA sucked ass anyway lol

  • @northernbohemianrealist1412

    @northernbohemianrealist1412

    Ай бұрын

    @@InTheKnow2011 No. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

  • @northernbohemianrealist1412

    @northernbohemianrealist1412

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelpalermo354 Yes, of course. I was at the Hogan-Ventura match at UWEC when Jesse had his jaw dislocated.

  • @richardstetson8221

    @richardstetson8221

    Ай бұрын

    I could see that happening luckily for me when they were doing that cartoony stuff I was in elementary school

  • @outlawgt3045
    @outlawgt3045Ай бұрын

    Wow, I read the headline and agree with Million Dollar Man. Wrestling is not the same as it was back in the day

  • @cavemantero
    @cavemantero5 күн бұрын

    Ted was the greatest Heel manager imo. Million $ manned up!

  • @AnDy_ToM22
    @AnDy_ToM22Ай бұрын

    Best wrestling interview I’ve heard to date

  • @larryfloyd4993
    @larryfloyd4993Ай бұрын

    TED... I don't know if you'll read this but! ..! i saw your father mike wrestle several time's.. and he was a real wrestler.. and i met you and had a beer at at a sam mucknick award show.. ox baker mike routada.. al costello.. bob backlund lou thesz..al snow.. killer klowalski...

  • @PAPAJOHANNESPATRIOT
    @PAPAJOHANNESPATRIOTАй бұрын

    For a brief moment, my mind wandered into my fantasy zone, where you created a federation that could involve the old style, wholesome entertainment, something the size of WWE. There had been a group of former wrestlers who . had matches on a smaller than WWE scale, but my memory isn't what it used to be, and trying to remember who was involved might give me a headache. I was a freshman at IBC when Hal Santos was a senior. Big happy guy with an afro. married his college sweetheart and then he started pastoring, and they're still going strong., making use of Facebook for some outreach. I almost met you at the Myriad in OKC a number of years ago. No conversation. I just stood there as you interacted with 2 fans. At that time a barricade of sorts in the hallway kept the fans from getting backstage. Several large plywood boxes painted black, perhaps 4 feet tall, and I guess 8 feet long. Long time ago Cowboy. Bill Watts brought wrestlers from the Tulsa area to OKC every other week. On alternating weekends, there were matches in the Tulsa area. Matches were taped and then shown on tv Friday or Saturday. I learned to get front row seats instead of settling for simple ringside as fans would jump up when there was special excitement and stayed standing, blocking my view. After the first incident, I made it a practice of getting to the Myriad early and getting a ticket for the next event. Sometimes watching the fans was nearly exciting as some matches. I remember a match where Kamala was wrestling, and a fan simply jumped into the ring for whatever reason. A karate chop to his head quickly knocked the idiot out.

  • @ChuckThunder1111
    @ChuckThunder1111Ай бұрын

    Love ya man. Thanks for saying all this!

  • @nintendad1166
    @nintendad116611 күн бұрын

    It's 25 years later, and he's 100% right.

  • @jaerockchalk3216
    @jaerockchalk32165 күн бұрын

    wow this is incredible stuff . Big props to Ted 🙌

  • @festushaggen2563
    @festushaggen2563Ай бұрын

    Great points here. Ted is a class act. I was an 80’s kid and now I’m showing my son the wrestling I grew up with and he loves it. But I have to stop before it gets to the attitude era with lingerie girls and middle fingers. It used to be fun for the whole family and it’s clearly not anymore.

  • @TojuRacing-ry4cf
    @TojuRacing-ry4cfАй бұрын

    Great wisdom from Ted. He is such a great talent!

  • @rta6969
    @rta6969Ай бұрын

    Great shoot interview. I totally agree with him all the way. I don't watch wrestling anymore for the reasons he's saying.

  • @AAAA-lt9hq
    @AAAA-lt9hqАй бұрын

    I remember in the late 90s how far the WWF had seemed to have fallen from its 80s heyday in terms of respectability. It seemed to be little more than trash TV. I couldn't believe Vince McMahon the face announcer was the same Mr. McMahon the heel boss. It was as if someone had stopped collecting comic books in 1993 only to pick them up again in 1997-2001 and find all their favorite characters were gone or changed for reasons one didn't understand. I always preferred the more grounded realism and lower production quality of late Crockett/early WCW from the mid 80s to early 90s. I could suspend my disbelief as Ted puts it more easily with Surfer Sting, Lex, Steiners, and Road Warriors era WCW than I could with WWF's cartoonish style. I stayed with WCW on and off until the end and remain a big Cornette fan in my opinions of how the business should be run. I did go to a WWF house show in Memphis in 92 or 93 at the Pyramid (now a Bass Pro Shop). I was around 13 and was beginning to age out of being a childhood fan. I think it was Hulk Hogan and Macho Man vs. Ric Flair and Roddy Piper during Flair's brief early 90s run with WWF. I wish I could remember more from seeing all those legends at once live. I just remember thinking the ring is smaller in person than how it looks on TV. I took a cheap plastic and foam kiddie merch championship belt home from the show that I've long since lost. WWF at that time was still fairly wholesome but was declining in quality with Brett Hart and Yokozuna being pushed a year or so later. Then there was the steroid trial. A lot of 80s WWF stars would leave for WCW. I mostly got out of wrestling during The New Generation era and then only started to notice it again when I was in high school. The Monday Night Wars were fully on and the Attitude Era was fully intended to appeal to people in my age group. I remained more of a WCW guy, but how the WWF had changed from when I was 13 shocked me. At the time, I remember late 90s WWF seeming more like The Jerry Springer Show. Long technical and submission hold matches like the Steiners used to have were gone. Matches were short brawls. There was still the occasional squash match but no regular Brooklyn Brawler type jobbers. It was less about the wrestling now and more about the controversial angles, many of them pre-recorded. A lot of the sex oriented stuff seemed crass and tasteless. That said, a lot of weekly matches on Raw and Smackdown were in terms of star power what would have been saved for PPVs in earlier days. There were no filler matches with enhancement talent. Everyone in every match, upper, mid, and even low card, was a star or a promising gimmick on the rise. Now many of us look back on this "smut" period fondly and wish for it to come back in some way. WWE watered itself down during Ruthless Aggression and yet further still in the PG era. PG in the 2010s wasn't the same as PG in the 1980s because kayfabe was dead and the business had been overexposed since the 1994 steroid trial. In Cena era terms, you couldn't send Hulk Hogan cards to kids anymore after his "injury" from Earthquake without some smart mark telling you Hulk wasn't injured and was really filming "Suburban Commando." When the smart marks took over, the emphasis shifted from simply enjoying the product to fans trying to correctly predict and influence popular angles. In my opinion, this entitled, condescending attitude among fans ruined all wrestling regardless of promotion. You can't have believable kayfabe with smart mark snark mentality in an Internet connected social media filled world. I initially had Ted's reaction to WWF product in the late 90s. I thought they were getting desperate with sensational angles because they could no longer depend upon their iconic 80s roster for viewers. That 80s roster seemed iconic because we didn't see them develop in the 1970s unless we followed territory promotions or the AWA. By the late 90s the business was exposed warts and all and fans were impatient with struggling wrestlers' attempts with unsuccessful gimmicks. But, I later grew to miss the Attitude Era compared to today's product. In the late 90s, I wanted WWF to go back to PG then but don't want it to be PG now. PG is great with kayfabe but terrible without it. But if they start doing crazy stuff again I want it to be intelligently done and not just for shock value. A lot of Attitude Era stuff seems like crazy nonsense just to be crazy (but fun) nonsense. Any time they tried to get crazy in the PG era they would roll out a CM Punk or Bray Wyatt, the appeal of whose gimmicks I could never fully understand. It was edgy, but not edgy enough. Also, if the WWF/E was ethical, then unethical, then ethical again in its shifting storytelling, Ted's life is no different. He was one of the greatest "unethical" heels in an era of "ethical" family friendly wrestling. He distanced himself from his character when he became a minister. He seemed to be one of the happier retired wrestlers from the 1984-1993 WWF golden age. ...but then he destroys his credibility and becomes more like his in ring persona by getting implicated in a welfare fraud scam in Mississippi. It's life imitating art imitating life imitating art...

  • @AAAA-lt9hq

    @AAAA-lt9hq

    Ай бұрын

    Also, the WWF becoming smut during the Attitude Era will be even more ironic if Vince McMahon is found guilty of what he is accused of by Janel Grant.

  • @Its.true1
    @Its.true1Ай бұрын

    I love the honesty of Ted he is still the "The Million Dollar Man" 👍👍👍👍and i wish i looked like him as we are both the same age and yes i know this was recorded back in 1999 but i have seen pictures and video`s of him 2024 and i still think he is the "The Million Dollar Man".

  • @machoman9283
    @machoman9283Ай бұрын

    Glad to see this dated back in 1999. Im sure today he wished he never did this interview due to his accusations.

  • @Manchild331

    @Manchild331

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly!!!! Today he loves Vince’s draws, outside of Vince’s accusations as well.

  • @Jahn_Pah_Jonz

    @Jahn_Pah_Jonz

    Ай бұрын

    "I don't think so, Tim". - Al Borland

  • @Coltavena

    @Coltavena

    22 күн бұрын

    FINALLY!!! 💯 only comment I've seen even mention that so far

  • @robertlee2791
    @robertlee279129 күн бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant character nothing comes close to Ted and that laugh is simply brilliant love ya Ted

  • @jaesea323
    @jaesea323Ай бұрын

    Stone Cold was a better hero than most of those so-called heroes back in the day. Stone Cold connected with the common man that worked a job and had a boss that they hated. He allowed those people to live vicariously through him when he gave Vince the middle finger. Sure there was other stuff that was smut, but let's not pretend that's all it was.

  • @GHMYahooka

    @GHMYahooka

    Ай бұрын

    best comment

  • Ай бұрын

    Well Stone Cold was basically a better looking Rated R version of Dusty Rhodes. There's nothing completely new in wrestling.

  • @Paugose

    @Paugose

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, Austin was not an Anti Hero, Austin was a "common man", a "John Henry" type of character fighting against The Machine that was the McMahon empire. There are heroes like John Wayne, but there are alos heroes like Conan, Austin is Conan, he walks to the beat of his drums, but if he sees you're not living up to your "benevolent king" standards, he's gonna knock some sense into you. (By the way, same Austin who gets crucified, just like Conan gets crucified for opposing an Evil corrupted King)

  • @samtotheg

    @samtotheg

    6 күн бұрын

    dibiase a bigot he longs for days to root for ethnic villians etc

  • @bxbomber85
    @bxbomber85Ай бұрын

    Its funny to kick back and see people assume this message is about today's wrestling when this is from 1999. You can tell they only listened to the parts that validated their biases.

  • @jaklumen

    @jaklumen

    8 күн бұрын

    I've always been a very casual wrestling fan, still tend to regard it as a guilty pleasure. But I have taken some notes on what happened from the Attitude to the PG eras, so, yeah, I think your statement is valid and some folks are cherry picking

  • @ferdonandebull

    @ferdonandebull

    6 күн бұрын

    It is about today’s wrestling.. he was talking about a trend.. trends can go decades…

  • @bxbomber85

    @bxbomber85

    6 күн бұрын

    So today's wrestling is smut, Fernando? How many bra and panties matches and swimsuit competitions have run in the past year compared to the late 90s?

  • @boocackeedquackhead8454

    @boocackeedquackhead8454

    4 күн бұрын

    His narrative is very dumb. He brought up school shooters, and the usual "think of the children" stuff and back when they were not targeting children. It was definitely the usual bible bashing, and this was the 90s version of the "woke" people of today except they had less say (thankfully). With the exception of some of the over the top angles, the wrestlers themselves were much more "real" in the attitude era than the superman era prior. There's a reason Austin was and still is so huge.

  • @bxbomber85

    @bxbomber85

    4 күн бұрын

    @boocackeedquackhead8454 Agreed. I see where he's coming from but wrestling had evolved to a point where tweeners and anti-heroes were more relatable.

  • @anotherperson6460
    @anotherperson6460Ай бұрын

    I started watching wrestling in the early to mid 80s.. Of course i was a huge hogan fan...but also liked mr wonderfull( rip) also liked how iron shiek and nikoli (also rip) teamed up and had the heat from fans...and yes i liked your angle on everyone has a price

  • @shogunmadness
    @shogunmadnessАй бұрын

    Wasn't Athens the world's first democracy 🤔

  • @D4NK1

    @D4NK1

    Ай бұрын

    He said the first "great" democracy

  • @georgesouthwick7000
    @georgesouthwick7000Ай бұрын

    Vince was running a business. The purpose of any business is to make money. If the fans hadn’t wanted “smut” it wouldn’t have happened. Vince was simply doing what any successful businessperson would do, he was giving people what they wanted.

  • Ай бұрын

    The fans didn't ask for smut, they didn't even know it was an option. Ted Turner couldn't and wouldn't go down that path at least not nearly as far as the WWF. This was Vinces one great advantage in winning the ratings war.

  • @malcorub

    @malcorub

    Ай бұрын

    And us kids from the 80s/early 90s who tuned wrestling out during during the mid 90s ate that smut up as older teenagers/young adults in the late 90s

  • @nhdjoseywales

    @nhdjoseywales

    9 күн бұрын

    That’s kind of the same argument a crack dealer makes. It’s true but it doesn’t make you a decent person

  • @StarBoyyX

    @StarBoyyX

    9 күн бұрын

    96- 04/05 the best

  • @TheSinlessAssassin
    @TheSinlessAssassin22 күн бұрын

    Would love to see what he thinks of wrestling now 25 years later

  • @stevecorino1
    @stevecorino1Ай бұрын

    Funny how he’s talking about wrestlers saying no, he knows “everyone has their price”.

  • @johnwilburn

    @johnwilburn

    Ай бұрын

    Including him. Look at the years after this.

  • @wa2k99

    @wa2k99

    Ай бұрын

    You should only do as much good for people as ted has. God is the judge, not you

  • @gullyblanchard5750

    @gullyblanchard5750

    Ай бұрын

    @@wa2k99maybe you’ve been living under a rock but Ted is under investigation from stealing millions from his church.

  • @jaklumen

    @jaklumen

    8 күн бұрын

    ​​@@wa2k99Peace to you, brother. They aren't wrong and I think you might be taking it a little too personal. I think Ted has seen the contrast of the two extremes and talking about his observations at the time. I don't honestly know what Ted thinks now as everything I've watched with him is about around this time, turn of the new century, almost 25 years ago. We'll all get a heart to heart, one-on-one interview with Master Jesus, of that I am certain. I don't expect you to guess how it will go for me, any more or less how I could guess how it will go for you. But I reckon we all will live our lives and figure out what to do when that time comes.

  • @Criticalthinker0515
    @Criticalthinker051529 күн бұрын

    WOW that was the best thing I have heard about wrestling and the way things are going thank you Ted.

  • @StarBoyyX

    @StarBoyyX

    9 күн бұрын

    This was in 1999 , things have collapsed since then 😂, now women can have penis

  • @NoName-cq7gy
    @NoName-cq7gy4 күн бұрын

    What an excellent gimmick he had. Back when I was a kid and loved wrestling.

  • @New_LoJack
    @New_LoJack19 күн бұрын

    I’ve read the Bible front to back and back to front and for the life of me, I can’t remember when Jesus talked about stealing welfare money for the church.

  • @hookdaddy507

    @hookdaddy507

    6 күн бұрын

    Wasn't that his son?

  • @ImActuallyDanBell

    @ImActuallyDanBell

    34 минут бұрын

    It's not the church, he's a protestant minister, Protestants are heretics which of the over 25,000 protestant churches is the true Church of Christ?

  • @Yougotadollar
    @YougotadollarАй бұрын

    Well said.

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler20 күн бұрын

    This is why I stopped watching WWF(WWE) back in the mid-nineties and watch WCW for about five years I haven't watched any new wrestling since about 2000 then KZread came out and I could watch even earlier stuff from the 70's and 80's when I was a child.

  • @Yeeesssiirrr
    @YeeesssiirrrАй бұрын

    Regardless of what people are saying about him in the comments, he does have a point. America has turned into Rome and the fall is coming fast

  • @E.C.2

    @E.C.2

    Ай бұрын

    America was fallen Rome 30 plus yrs ago,the fall is coming fast,brother.

  • @Yeeesssiirrr

    @Yeeesssiirrr

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@E.C.2 Andrew Jackson officialized it, everyone after continued the destruction.

  • @RaulieAbreu-xs4kb
    @RaulieAbreu-xs4kbАй бұрын

    Vince was a bastard of a person he screwed over so many talented wrestlers. The worst was what he did to poor Owen Hart then to Bret and later he also screwed over the great Sting in WrestleMania and after that too. Please people don't be like Vince.

  • @GoldenGateNum9
    @GoldenGateNum9Ай бұрын

    Very intelligent man, agreed with everything he said ♥️♥️

  • @mrs.witchyperfect9846
    @mrs.witchyperfect9846Ай бұрын

    As a chick who lived through the Attitude era I agree with Ted on most of what he says. The only "good" wrestling angle of that era was Austin vs. McMahon. Say what you want about the Austin character swearing, drinking beer etc it is what made the WWF better and sold our arenas. It drew.

  • @albalog2449

    @albalog2449

    Ай бұрын

    In the Attitude Era, I watched WWF Shotgun because of the colorful midcard, and it was the more wrestling-focused show. I started out as an AJPW and pre-NWO WCW fan in early 1994.

  • @poolee77

    @poolee77

    Ай бұрын

    Undertaker, Mandkind, Kane? No? Really?

  • @Geraldo-ro9rc
    @Geraldo-ro9rcАй бұрын

    Attitude era was the most entertaining era but i do get what hes saying. They definitely did too much all at once. De-sensitized alot of viewers. We definitely do need edginess back in wrestling tho after more than 10 years of the product being PG and boring. Or at least bring back gimmicks and characters like you had in the 80s, early 90s. All promotions have become watered down.

  • Ай бұрын

    Most Entertaining is debatable. If we're talking strictly money then yes absolutely. If we're talking actual wrestling no way.

  • @petersmith5915
    @petersmith5915Ай бұрын

    Ted was a major part of what made wwf special when i first started watching, im glad to see him back in 1999 saying about it going downhill cos i thought the same, even tho numbers n revenue was going up it was going downhill, a shitter product just became more available n cheaper to watch on mainstream tv channels but was far better when u needed sky tv which alot of people didnt have in the late 80s early 90s imo.

  • @selvinlinton
    @selvinlintonАй бұрын

    Truly intelligent guy ✅

  • @The_Zeitheist
    @The_ZeitheistАй бұрын

    “Wrestling now is about celebrating the anti-hero… now it’s about glorifying thugs and pimps… you’re selling brutality, hardcore brutality.” Yep, this is what happened second half of the 90s. Good interview.

  • @Rick-si1re

    @Rick-si1re

    Ай бұрын

    This started with "Stone Cold Steve Austin" who I still feel to this day is and was overrated, he was a good wrestler yes but his claim to fame was swearing and drinking beer and being anti authority and people cheered him for it and Vince went with it trying to please the audience, which is where the problem lies. I could go very deep with that but I won't, most people don't read my comments as it is probably. We as a society rather cheer the "cool" anti hero then to cheer the real "hero", thus good vs evil gets all turned around and well you see where the business is today but Vince goes with the times and we as a society has changed, it's sad.

  • @willcardona7712

    @willcardona7712

    Ай бұрын

    @@Rick-si1re The irony is that when Steve Austin turned heel and allied himself with McMahon, the WWE lost half their audience.

  • @Paugose

    @Paugose

    Ай бұрын

    @@Rick-si1re Except Austin was clearly a heroic character, who was opposing a corrupt authority that went so far as to aline himself with "The Devil" (for all intese and purposes), in that case the Undertaker (Ministry Era).

  • @Rick-si1re

    @Rick-si1re

    Ай бұрын

    @@willcardona7712 Yeah that was Wrestlemania 17 when he allied himself with McMahon as you said. However the character of "Stone Cold Steve Austin" was meant to be a heel through and through and Bret's so called "whining and crying" was more like truth. However it's people getting more and more depraved and wanting anti authority and wrestlers like Bret and Hogan and other so called "heroes" were becoming dull and boring and a thing of a past, of course I speak of the majority of wrestling fans, Nah, give me Bret and Hogan over someone like Austin any day.

  • @willcardona7712

    @willcardona7712

    Ай бұрын

    @@Rick-si1re I think an anti-authority character could work if he was fighting against a corrupt authority figure. Being pro authority isn't always a good thing. And being anti authority isn't always a bad thing.

  • @Itsadarkworld34
    @Itsadarkworld34Ай бұрын

    Interesting, I've never viewed it as that, i wasn't a die-hard fan of professional wrestling and was more into the characters from the 80s and early 90s. I'd say that by this time, Triple H, Goldberg, Austin, Lesnar, Nash, Hall, and The Big Show were all taking over. I stopped watching a lot by the time i graduated high school in 2002

  • @CiceroSolo
    @CiceroSolo4 күн бұрын

    It was a tragic accident that was enabled by incredible wilful negligence on the part of the wwf and the company they contracted to

  • @superwild
    @superwildАй бұрын

    Agree completely with all Ted's comments (other than that the Roman Empire was a democracy -- which would've been news to that long succession of Emperors, who were pretty sure they were in charge).

  • @mikeg2491

    @mikeg2491

    Ай бұрын

    He’s partially right, Rome started as a Republic and became a dictatorship with Caesar hence his comments how they degenerated to throwing people to the lions.

  • @gregledbetter5942
    @gregledbetter594221 күн бұрын

    Pretty solid message many of us have agreed with for a long time

  • @albalog2449
    @albalog2449Ай бұрын

    1:44 Great point, and an ethnic heel gimmick I've long had since childhood was called "Scourge", who was essentially a grunge/shock rock descendant of Attila The Hun, dressed with skull boots & arcane chest tattoos with a shaman robe/mask in his special entrances. Scourge was a bully who was arrogant, goofy, yet intimidating like a 1980's movie villain (much like Jack Nicolson Joker). Scourge would be the type that casual fans, families, kids, etc. would love to boo if I fought Flair or Savage, while metalheads, goths, edgelords, etc. would cheer me. This character I've been told by various veterans would've worked well in the territory days or pre-NWO WCW, and especially Japan, but in any era after the WWF Attitude Era main event, it would not have succeeded. My gimmick was specifically designed for a morality play type of wrestling. I can imagine Scourge peaking in say 1994 WCW, but by 1999 WWF he'd be lingering in the midcard on Heat & Shotgun.

  • @user-ux5nv9sz9f
    @user-ux5nv9sz9fАй бұрын

    Iv watched wrestling since the early 80s and i still love it it's the best soap opera on the planet. Sit back and enjoy..

  • @JTH-hm8ew

    @JTH-hm8ew

    Ай бұрын

    I have watched since roughly the early 1980s myself. My favorite promotion was the NWA Jim Crockett promotions in the mid 1980s plus the mini era when WCW was defeating the WWE in the ratings for about a year and a half. I lost interest in wrestling when the WWE around the start of the 2010s started to feel overproduced and too scripted. Add to that that matches now look like ballerina performances and too many flips and high flying moves has made me lose interest.

  • @NoName-ky6ze
    @NoName-ky6ze17 күн бұрын

    Wrestling evolves through times. Just like music. Kids used to listen to The Beatles in the 60s, Limp Bizkit in the 90s and EDM in 2024. You couldn't do that "say your prairs and eat your vitamins" in the late 90s and you can't do it now. Just like kids ain't going crazy for The Beatles either.

  • @Rainbow_in_the_dark75
    @Rainbow_in_the_dark75Ай бұрын

    I agree with him 100 percent. Sad thing is it's gotten much worse since this interview. As far as im concerned the 1980s was the greatest decade for professional wrestling

  • @johnnietorch1598
    @johnnietorch1598Ай бұрын

    Ted was right. I was a fan as a kid in the Hulkamania years. When it got to the 90s, I just felt like the magic was gone. I bowed out shortly before the real smutty stuff started. But as a Christian myself, I couldn't condone watching. Fortunately, all things come around in time, and though it took a while, I can watch wrestling again today.

  • @gone.golfing

    @gone.golfing

    Ай бұрын

    You missed the whole Attitude Era & Ruthless Aggression Era???!!!

  • @Jahn_Pah_Jonz

    @Jahn_Pah_Jonz

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@gone.golfingattitude era was the best. After that it went downhill.

  • @tonymeehan7859

    @tonymeehan7859

    Ай бұрын

    I quit in 96, it was getting bad, all the starts were leaving for WCW. I wasn't interested much in WCW. It wasn't till Jan 05, I just happed to tune into it that night of RAW, I was snooping around to see what it was like.....its 2024 now, and still watching again

  • @gone.golfing

    @gone.golfing

    Ай бұрын

    @@tonymeehan7859 You missed literally the best time in wrestling. And those times will never be duplicated.

  • @malcorub

    @malcorub

    Ай бұрын

    " bowed out shortly before the real smutty stuff started" You and half the audience tuned out in the early mid 90s because the magic was indeed gone.... then when things picked up again in 97 many of us tuned back in as older teens/young adults.

  • @icuabc1235
    @icuabc1235Ай бұрын

    I always liked hating Ted, Flair, the Midnight Express, those were the days.

  • @newjerseyballer
    @newjerseyballerАй бұрын

    wrestling, just like everything else, needs to evolve. WWF did just that and it worked.

  • @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520
    @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520Ай бұрын

    I'm not a fan of the smut and sexual themes of the attitude era, but I think the intensity and production was spectacular. From a visual standpoint, no era before it came close. As for actual wrestling, im sure there were eras before and after we consider better.

  • @aaronjohnson6835
    @aaronjohnson6835Ай бұрын

    Those thoughts echo exactly why i started watching OVW. Still doing wrestling the way i remember and enjoy.

  • @WinstonWolfe21
    @WinstonWolfe2127 күн бұрын

    U can’t fault Vince for anything he did. He was very mark savvy and knew what the fans wanted, I’d do the same thing if that’s what the moronic wrestling fans wanted. Wrestling fans aren’t too bright and I agree with Ted here bc I’d feel the same way as a cog in the machine

  • @jimmyjakes1823

    @jimmyjakes1823

    17 күн бұрын

    Honestly, I think Vince gave us what he wanted and the fans tuned in for the freakshow. The 'kiss my ass club' club or the segments where he'd force the girls to strip in the ring or make out with him were straight out of Vince's uniquely messed up psychological landscape. Was there entertainment value there? Sure, but most people thought it was weird af even then.

  • @roscoegan
    @roscoeganАй бұрын

    On the post picture, Vince thinks he's Mil Mascaras! 😂

  • @artistryspectrum512
    @artistryspectrum512Ай бұрын

    All this after Vince being exposed... makes sense.

  • @jpart3526
    @jpart352611 күн бұрын

    Pro Wrestling is like a circus. They do acrobatic moves, they are sights to see, they travel from town to town usually all in one unit. It's promoted very similar as a circus, that is something that will never change. If its similar to anything else, it's like prize fighting. What Vince decided to do was make it clear, he alone is the one who makes all the money. Everyone else got scraps. Compared to Vince, all were paid small tips (fees). It got to his head so much that he became, basically a pimp, who shat where he ate.

  • @jasenswalley3985
    @jasenswalley398515 күн бұрын

    He’s right about everything here.

  • @lostone9700
    @lostone97003 күн бұрын

    Best decision vince ever made. Smut sells.

  • @malcorub
    @malcorubАй бұрын

    6:30 So "The pimp " is obviously The Godfather. So who is "the street gang member"?

  • @Paugose

    @Paugose

    Ай бұрын

    It's funny Ted says that when his last big TV role was a man who bankrolls a "street gang" in the nWo. Rules for thee, I guess.

  • @musicaficionado3805

    @musicaficionado3805

    Ай бұрын

    There were the gang wars of the WWF in ‘97

  • @Nightwacther203
    @Nightwacther203Ай бұрын

    BLESS YOU TED!!!

  • @JP-uy9kq
    @JP-uy9kqАй бұрын

    I always loved Ted... he is on point. Vince will answer for his crimes one day.

  • @cryptomnesiac
    @cryptomnesiacАй бұрын

    That's why I increasingly liked WCW during the attitude era, it was more about the sport and less about the soap opera.

  • @marcoparada6652

    @marcoparada6652

    Ай бұрын

    LOL

  • @Antihero297

    @Antihero297

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I loved watching the luchadors and guys like Malenko in WCW. Instead of endless talking, they actually did really impressive stuff in the ring.

  • @Exist2Inspire87

    @Exist2Inspire87

    2 күн бұрын

    Really? Don't you remember "Viagra ona pole" matches? Or David Arquette as the WCW World Champion? Fingerpoke of Doom? Scott Halls real life alcoholism used for a angle? WCW was just as much dirt as WWF was at the time.

  • @undertakerfanz628
    @undertakerfanz628Ай бұрын

    I'm glad Ted stopped him from saying I was gonna ask you about that🙄

  • @michaelvazquez7851
    @michaelvazquez7851Ай бұрын

    Good interview

  • @chrispullinsproject
    @chrispullinsprojectАй бұрын

    Good thing he's a minister because his kid needs Jesus.

  • @retroboog8973
    @retroboog897310 күн бұрын

    As much as people revere and love the Attitude Era (I was watching and loving it in 1999 at a probably too young age) it only lasted 7 years. The type of wrestling Ted is talking about here lasted for nearly 100 years. I'm not saying that makes one worse or better over the other. What I'm saying is wrestling may of changed with the times of the 1990's and early 2000's but for lack of a better word the "fad" society went through at the time was just that. That's a reason people don't talk about for why wrestling fell off a cliff after 2001. What wrestling used to be persevered through many societal changes and fads. The Attitude Era was a great era, but much like a firecracker it burn bright, fast, and short.

  • @MikeDerucki0
    @MikeDerucki017 сағат бұрын

    OK it's a physical contest but the action needs a backstory to drive it.

  • @Rick-si1re
    @Rick-si1reАй бұрын

    Yeah and wrestling has gotten away from that.....Good guys vs Bad guys.......it's so sad, we hardly have that today.

  • @jameskowalsky-yl1yx
    @jameskowalsky-yl1yx26 күн бұрын

    Sounds like a smart guy.

  • @phillysfinest215
    @phillysfinest215Ай бұрын

    He was speaking facts !!! But that’s entertainment period not just wrestling

  • @maverick2242
    @maverick2242Ай бұрын

    Well said and you are right allot us do want to see the golden era come back, be about wrestling again, heals and baby faces! Ultimate power ultimately corrupts, Vince father new it, saw it in him! But Vince Jr is was a law unto himself, for as much good he did fr he business he also did as much if not more harm! But frankly we as consumers are ultimately to blame.even more than Vince! Because consumers bought it! So if hes Evil, evil people consumed what he was selling! People need to take a look at themselves! But few are willing to change or even acknowledge it! Its all around us ever day and exponentially spiralling downwards! Sadly 😢

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