The Farsight Heresy.

@mattrodriguez6130

Жыл бұрын

Bro, that would be 🔥 🔥 🔥

@edmundthespiffing2920

Жыл бұрын

Didn't see it coming

@markcoroneos7811

Жыл бұрын

Let the five sphere’s burn 🔥

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@edmundthespiffing2920 The Ethereal Heresy

@Olodus

Жыл бұрын

Dude, I love if that is the path they are going down. Tau needs some chaos, for the good of their society. In a society with such perfect control, a bit of chaos is a good thing. Personal freedoms are good for a society but are also the seeds of chaos. With Tau GW can explore stories they never can with the Imperium. In the Imperium absolute societal control failed. In the Imperium chaos is mostly a bad thing, because you need some control to have a functioning society. But in Tau society control succeeded, they need chaos. And Farsight is bringing it, as long as he doesn't go too far and fall to complete chaos.

Would be interesting if this resulted in Shadowsun starting a third faction of Religious followers of this goddess. Than it'll be the Ethereal's Empire, the Farsight Enclaves and finally Shadowsun's Faction. Wonder if the Ethereals will then make Kais (the other Puretide pupil) their poster child?

@fumarc4501

Жыл бұрын

He does hate everyone that’s not Tau. Especially humans.

@asonofhoruslegionary

Жыл бұрын

@@fumarc4501 really?

@fumarc4501

Жыл бұрын

@@asonofhoruslegionary I recommend War of Secrets by Phill Kelly.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@fumarc4501 Meanwhile the Inquisition (is chill with him)

@Ottersanity

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking about the one from the Dawn of War game or Fire Warrior game.

I like the idea that the Tau'Va God will become the answer to Chaos. Chaos representing the forsaking of all else for personal power vs the Tau'Va forfeiting all personal power for the betterment of all when the individual desires nothing, chaos has no hold upon them (A similar sentiment is mentioned in Brutal Kunnin regarding why Daemons hate the Orks)

This goddess has already proven useful, by saving the 4th sphere. If the Ethereals were smart they would harness this faith, directing it to shape the goddess into a warp based defensive system.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

Plot twist, The Ethereals know that this is a Tau based chaos god, and doing so will lead to chaos corruption.

@banneduser5187

Жыл бұрын

Harnessing faith is literally the very, very worst thing the Tau could do. Noob Gods and religion in 40k... lmao. Better to stay almost invisible to daemons like they are atm

@bohba13

Жыл бұрын

@@orrorsaness5942 this honestly sounds like something GW would do. and I don't think it'd be handled well.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@bohba13 Que West vs East civil war

Tau: "Dear universe at large we are currently facing a civil war. Any diplomatic relations with the rebelion may damage your relations with us. In addition we ask you do not materially support them or interfere with the conflict in any way!" Guiliman: "Aint that cute?"

@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha ^^ this echoes in so many ways ^^

@phantomwraith1984

Жыл бұрын

I'm all for an ordertide forming between the imperium, farisight and ynnari

@Rawkit_Surgeon

Жыл бұрын

Dear Tau empire. Nom nom, motherfucker! -regards The Nyds😉

@cegesh1459

9 ай бұрын

Necrons: The Horus heresy was cute

@orrorsaness5942

7 ай бұрын

Farsight Enclaves (Internal screaming)

I think it would be cool if shadowsun becomes a believer in the goddess. Like at first maybe she’s fighting a particularly strong enemy and she thinks about the goddess and wonders if would help and then it does. Then she gradually starts pushing it and seeing what the goddess can do eventually becoming a full believer

@ismaelsantos5378

Жыл бұрын

Would be a good way to make a new Tau subfaction. The Ethereals unperson her like they did with Farsight and she decides to abandon the empire to create her own faction of religious believers in the Tau'va goddess. The Goddess could also give her a blessing to extend her life and to survive even the most grievous of wounds, further cementing her faith in her. So you have the Tau Empire ruled by Ethereals, the Farsight Enclaves led by Farsight and the Tau'va Crusade led by Shadowsun.

@slitor

Жыл бұрын

I don't think she or the T'au themselves needs to be belivers to work with the T'auva entity. They can easily have a more grounded approach to this immaterial ally, which would make for some quirky and intersting stories, especially since they are aware of the absuridty of the situation. Also they know this isn't the first time something so absurd have happened and will probably do their best to avoid creating another Ecclesiarchy.

Interested to see if this crisis of Faith pushes Shadowsun not just against the Ethereals, but to reconcile and join up with Farsight.

@rodneynoble6046

Жыл бұрын

Not if Farsight is for the extermination of non Tau and possibly under the influence of Chaos.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@rodneynoble6046 Shadowsun who is a Tau turned Chaos Goddess: Hello, Farsight Chad sight (cuts Shadowsun’s boobs with his sword) Shadowsun *gets an orgasm* Chad sight: I have no business with Tau who willingly bring themselves to chaos, Archtraitor Ethereal!

@epiccthulu

Жыл бұрын

@@rodneynoble6046 well i just finished the last farsight book, empire of lies, and i can he isn’t about genocide

@ismaelsantos5378

Жыл бұрын

@@epiccthulu Farsight is the Tau equivalent to the Doomslayer.

@epiccthulu

Жыл бұрын

@@ismaelsantos5378 he is definitely badass! But he also has a human inquisitor pysker for an adviser, and he wrote both the book of the beast and the mirror codex

Now I want to create a Tau themed Guard army that shouts for the goddess.

@yogapriambodo1383

Ай бұрын

They called as Gue'vesa

I have started a Tau Empire faction, or at least getting the stuff together for it. I always liked the Tau, ever since I learned about 40k, but it just never sat perfectly well with me. But now with this religious possibility and the events of Shadowsun and her novel, I plan to make a custom Sept which is a religious Tau faction, led by an Ethereal that witnessed the events and embraced it.

@alexsandraanastacio1705

Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

In private, i bet each Ethereal refers to themselves as Alpharius.

@Chaos_Pawn

Жыл бұрын

everybody is Alpharius

@AlfieVsLion

Жыл бұрын

I am Alpharius…?

@josephwieschhaus3937

Жыл бұрын

i was thinking that

@jamesneese7663

Жыл бұрын

can you imagine Farsight going back to the homeworld, throwing back the curtain at the back of the Central Command, and it's a Alpha Legionnarire standing there like "well, guess this scam is up..."

@Chaos_Pawn

Жыл бұрын

@@AlfieVsLion no, I am Alpharius

Kinda surprised most of the Tau leadership is still alive. I remember reading somewhere that Tau only live for somewhere around 60 years, so Shadowsun’s gotta be pretty old now.

@JimboTauJones

Жыл бұрын

She gets frozen, some people get cloned, some people are hard light holograms run by AI, Farsight sword extends his life.

@commanderfarsight2733

Жыл бұрын

Yeagh as they constantly get put to sleep like shadowsun been put to sleep twice

@Del_S

Жыл бұрын

I think either retcons or technobabble fixes came in.

@TrevorJNagy

Жыл бұрын

I think i remember that they put commanders and important people in stasis when not in "use"

@Broomer52

Жыл бұрын

@@Del_S theirs a few different methods. Cloning is a popular one but also they get put in stasis when not needed dramatically extending their lives, theirs also AI copies of them. The 8 in the Farsight Enclave actually have an AI copy and a guy that clones himself whenever he dies. Farsight himself is kept alive but his Warp Infused Sword that steals life from those he cuts.

I would love to see one of the Water caste explain the Greater Good to the Tyranids!

@zestful988

Жыл бұрын

They tryed to do and failed 😆

@jamesneese7663

Жыл бұрын

@@zestful988 yeah but on the plus side, afterwards the Hive Mind thinks very highly of the Tau: tastes great, less filling!

@anthonyrodriguez8788

Жыл бұрын

The Tau already tried that when a Genestealer Cult formed on one of their world. When the Genestealers proved to be pricks like the Dark Eldar they spent about a decade getting rid of every single Genestealer on the planet. They even developed a cure for the Genestealer infection, this efficiency against Genestealer cults definitely doesn't make the Imperium Inquisitiors jealous, nope not at all.

@nonya1366

Жыл бұрын

Oh they do that pretty often. They see it's tyranids, turn around, and tell the fire caste to explain the greater good to them instead.

The question is when are they going to start using this in the tabletop? The existence of a Tau goddess will be tectonic shift for the Tau, who themselves have no warp powers of their own. But like the Emperor, simple belief in the Greater Good (not necessarily the goddess) could empower them in ways not unlike that of the Sisters of Battle. To some degree this is already explored in the tabletop with the Tau Ethereals somehow buffing nearby Tau units through their auras (whether this is a unique ability of the Ethereals or comes from somewhere else is a good question). But I think this is probably the single most important event in the Tau's history, as it at once brings them in line with basically every other faction having some kind of warp based deity or assistance (Humans: The Emperor, Orks: Gork and Mork, Tyranids: The hive Mind, Chaos: The Four Gods, Eldar: Khane and the dead pantheon), and effectively shatters their current entire philosophical and completely facts based approach to the galaxy and begins to interact with the Immaterium (not necessarily great, but a major move for the faction as a whole). I see this goddess as a great move on part of GW as it makes the Tau a more nuanced faction and may eventually even lead to more Tau factions. So far we only have Farsight and the Tau Empire itself (though the Farsight Enclaves have not been a developed as they probably could), and gives us those who remain fervently loyal to the Ethereals, those who reject the Ethereals (Farsight), those who embrace the goddess Tau'Va and those who reject the goddess Tau'Va.

@Broomer52

Жыл бұрын

The Tau God is forming almost entirely on accident as races like Humans that exist within their empire believe The Greater Good to be a God and because they have a stronger presence in the Warp that belief and Devotion is creating an embodiment of The Greater Good.

@Keemperor40K

Жыл бұрын

@@Broomer52 correct, but as the Shadowsun novel proved very definitively, it seems to be an entity that sees the Tau race as her origins and is willing to assist them. It has already done this twice. Once helping the 4th sphere remnants to cross the great rift and in the process create a wormhole and secondly stopping the Nurgle fleet that wanted to go to the Tau Empire. While it may later become a less nice warp entity, right now it all points to this Tau'Va being like the Emperor, a protector of the Tau and its auxiliaries.

@aleanddragonITA

Жыл бұрын

Wait, wouldn't the Blessing of this Greater Good Goddess enhance the Tau's Presence in Warp? So also creating more chances for some Taus to fall to Chaos?

@Broomer52

Жыл бұрын

@@aleanddragonITA not really, it just means they have a divine patron. The nature of it is yet to be seen because it’s barely formed but once it grows in power and form its influence will subsequently increase over the Tau Empire

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@Broomer52 the goddess : i aM a cHaOs gOd eQuAl tO tHaT oF tZhEeNcH!!! Khorne: Slannesh, Tzeench, you gonna allow this heresy to slide? Tzeench: Sure. Me and this minor chaos God is trying to corrupt the Ethereals and the Tau Empire with the power of friendship, while you are trying to corrupt Farsight. Which one of us will succeed, I’d any at all? Khorne: to be honest with you, I wanna see a Tau that falls into chaos while it’s the rebellion that fights against the chaos tainted Ethereals.

The Tau definitely need their own Horus Heresy with Farsight. The Tau has such great potential as a faction.

@Lord-Of-Bread

Жыл бұрын

i think itd be cool if it was the inverse of the hours heresy where the empire begins to worship the warp entity and farsight rebels against it

@Del_S

Жыл бұрын

@@Lord-Of-Bread Or he makes his own warp entity, with hookers and blackjack. Slaanesh: A̵m̸ ̵I̴ ̵a̷ ̷j̵o̷k̷e̷ ̴t̶o̶ ̷y̵o̶u̵?̶

@DISTurbedwaffle918

Жыл бұрын

​@@Lord-Of-Bread Farsight may fall to Khorne, he's already had a pretty close call already.

@beowylfen

Жыл бұрын

​@@DISTurbedwaffle918I really hope he doesn't. The worst part of 40k is the repeated story that breaking with the oppressors leads you to turning evil. Farsight is like the coolest because he's rebeling for legitimate reasons and isn't just a cartoon villain.

@Lord-Of-Bread

Жыл бұрын

@@DISTurbedwaffle918 i doubt it. He just got a new model and it has no sign of chaos and has a hexagramatic ward on his arm. If anything i think that close call he had will drive him to actively fight chaos

The real question is: is Aun'Va an Equilibrium reference? Will Farsight someday put on a white suit and slice a bloke's face off and accidentally look really goofy when they have a literal photograph lying on the floor in the next scene?

"Do not trust them all." Puretide's final words to Farsight. He knew something was going on with the Ethereals, maybe even suspected something nefarious had happened to Aun'wei, the previous Ethereal leader before Aun'va. Lorewise, we have yet to see an Ethereal die of old age at all. Also we have yet to find out what the hell happened to Aun'shi. The only Ethereal Farsight would consider a friend because he can melee like no other Ethereal can. The last mention of him in lore stated he was heading to the Farsight Enclaves. It has been 300 years and to my knowledge, he and Farsight have never met yet. Another "accident" caused by Aun'va I wonder?

@slitor

Жыл бұрын

Maybe what we need is to someone to smuggle an "untampared" AI angram of Aun'va to reveal how dire things have gotten.

@Makorze

Жыл бұрын

@@slitor considering how much of a plotter Aun'va was. I'm surprised he wasnt pushing O'Vesa's "Puretide Engrams" project for his own use. Its effectively immortality if he had an AI contruct with all his knowledge and personality in case of his actual death.

@slitor

Жыл бұрын

@@Makorze Isn't that what basically happened? Aun'Va is dead or should have been dead a long time ago. So either he's a manipulated figurehead, run by a few top-level ethereal. Or he's perfect personality engram, still calling the shots after centuries. Either way this indicate that the Ethereals are losing their touch, getting to geriatic, cynical and burdened with to many secrets. That they are starting to loose touch with the "Greater Good" and the ruling system is starting to stagnate because of it. but not "...them all"

@TheManofthecross

4 ай бұрын

aka another assassination. the imperium will need to exploit this as soon as possible. it will be there opening to basically pull an uno reverse card and annex the tau in to the imperium as a whole but for that to work the emperor and the tau godess must find a way to meet and form a relation of sorts that benefits both sides for it to work.

If the Ethereals are smart. They’ll embrace the Cultural zeitgeist. Place themselves as the messengers or priests of this new greater good deity. And maintain most if not all of their current power.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

Ahh yes, so if the Ethereals are smart they would embrace the evil chaos god larping as the greater good, dooming the Tau to chaos worship. Good to know.

@inthefade

Жыл бұрын

And then fall to Tzeench who's been playing them this entire time.

@yogapriambodo1383

Ай бұрын

And somehow, they don't know how to do it without angers other people actually.

@yogapriambodo1383

Ай бұрын

And somehow, they don't know how to do it without angers other people actually.

It would be really cool for the Tau to have 2 sides like most factions, Having some infighting always adds flavor to a stale stories. Tau need some flavor along with a few others.

@Rowan3733

Жыл бұрын

They already have the farsight enclaves, but I get your point. More conflict makes them interesting. Currently I'd say the biggest issue is that they appear to be in this odd Mary Sue/mega plot armour space in the setting, which is kind of annoying.

@eviljagtech

Жыл бұрын

@@Rowan3733 I was hoping for a Death Guard story line to have more of an impact then they did but with a chunk of Tau over on the other side of the rift more interactions with Chaos may fortify the religion. Also at some point the Imperium will learn of a second way to get to the other side and will come for it....I hope.

so far, every single "good" race of note in 40k has had at least one dramatic fall. The Old Ones had the Wars in Heaven, the Eldar had the FAll, Humanity had the Cybernetic Rrevolt and then the Horus Heresy. For the T'au this is a question of when, not if. Additionally, witha god forming, that may also cause more psychically active T'au beginning to pop up. And considering the rise of psykers was possibly, if not probably, behind the human AI revolting as they understood the nature of Chaos corruption, I can see in lore reports astar mounting of more advanced AI systems in T'au use beginning to show "accidents caused by errors in code"

It is possible that the Ethereal could become like preachers of this Tau Goddess further cementing their power if they accept this faith. Yes they run the risk of the cast system falling apart but there is that small chance that it could make it stronger with them convincing people that the Goddess has placed them in their respective cast much like "it is your destiny" type of thing.

@ismaelsantos5378

Жыл бұрын

Or, to make it more interesting, you go this route: The Goddess Tau'va gets more powerful and Shadowsun becomes the chosen champion. So the Goddess grants Shadowsun extended lifespan as well as keeping the general in top fighting form and helping her recover from near mortal wounds. The Ethereals discover this, cast Shadowsun out, and the new champion of Tau'va forms her own faction made of those who worship the Goddess. So on the one hand you have Tau Empire, run by ethereals, Farsight Enclaves, run by Farsight, and Tau'va... Crusade? Heralds? Followers? led by Shadowsun.

Please give the Gundam bois a featured week, I really want to learn more about them!

I wonder if the Tau Goddess is a pre existing minor chaos god, like Vashtorr, that is attempting to ally itself with the tau since the other chaos gods are largely ignoring the tau. Could be interesting to see if it can spawn demons too, perhaps as an ally faction for the tau?

@Pizzifrizzo

Жыл бұрын

Spawning daemons seems a bit too much for its current power level. To make a comparison, the Horned Rat in AoS can only go so far as to make Daemon princes, and it's already a full and rather powerful god. Regarding this Tau'va having always existed... that's probably right, but more because time is non-linear in the Warp, than because it might be a demigod trying to ally itself with the Tau. For once, it's known that Slaanesh helped the aeldari birth itself, so I wouldn't exclude that this new god has been doing to something similar for some time.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@Pizzifrizzo That would be interesting. Perhaps The Ethereals know that this chaos god doesn’t actually have human origins, but Tau. I believe that this goddess is an archtraitor to the Ethereals and the Ethereals are merely pretending that this goddess is humanity’s fault. This would explain why the goddess claims that it’s the Tau who made her. Basically, she was a cult leader with her cultists as her simps and then she sold her soul temporarily to Tzeench who then turned her into a minor chaos god! The Ethereals then met her again and they cut her up, sliced her boobs, and trapped the archtraitor into the warp, hoping that she doesn’t get released after tainting the west of the Tau empire with her good looks. What does it take for her to reawaken? Psychic power and genuine belief in the greater good. Guess what humanity did?

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@Pizzifrizzo Now you may be wondering, why blot her out of history? Why not pull a Farsight on her and make her a warning? Many reasons A: She sees herself as evil, and a thot B: She is beautiful C (This is the most important part of the reason why): She is an Ethereal. Imagine the psychological toll the Tau would have, knowing that not even the Ethereals are safe from the clutches of Chaos?

@richardcowling7381

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps the Tau were created by The Old Ones, and faith was a part of their psyche, dormant until the right circumstances made it manifest. Might even be the Psychic Awakening in the Imperium could be a factor, the rise of energy in the warp amplifying the Taus Psychic potential, they might not individually have much, but as a species...

@riverraven7359

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget there are non chaotic warp beings of equivalent power to Daemon princes. Could be an OLD god re-emerging....

Imperium watching the tau fight a civil war: "cute"

Would be funny if the imperium pops in just to see the tau civil war in full swing

@BananaMonkeyization

Жыл бұрын

"Heya Blueies how's it go-" *Unrestrained Apocalyptic War* "Rad."

There is another possibility - (some of) the ethereals make a deal with chaos to kill/suppress the new Tau god, a deal with the devil, if you like.

Be ironic if the power and control the ethereals have is from the warp. That they cut some kind of deal before their rise with the chaos gods.

@jonharrison9222

Жыл бұрын

It isn’t.

@muglypunt968

Жыл бұрын

@Jon Harrison why?

@callumjohnston858

Жыл бұрын

It'd be real weird if it were. Kind of counter to chaos in general, no?

@muglypunt968

Жыл бұрын

@@callumjohnston858 chaos make deals, those who make deals don't know the risks.... Aka chaos

@callumjohnston858

Жыл бұрын

@@muglypunt968 I know but broadly speaking the T'au empire's vibe is very...not chaosy. And you'd think with their development speed they'd have shown more signs by now. Like a Slaaneshi cult on a human world can surface after like maybe 4 or so generations. T'au vibes notwithstanding, it just seems very not chaos to support a ruling class with an ideology built solely around order. I mean there was that one time with the Emperor, but broad strokes it just doesn't read like a chaos move to me, partially because the T'au themselves are minimally psychic, thus presenting a less valuable target. Then there's that the T'au are a relatively tiny faction, it just doesn't line up for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's impossible, just that I don't see it in the lore as I understand it now.

There was one Ethereal in that sister's book that had an interest in this new faith to use it to undermind the Imperium. Knowing how the Ethereals operate they undoubtedly know the methods employed by the Imperial cult

@TheManofthecross

4 ай бұрын

the inqustion is already expereinced in dealing with problems like that so the ethereals trying that trick will not work. the imperium however can pull that uno reverse card on the tau and break them apart with ease.

This could be a big game changer for the Tau, if they are developing a religion, with a Goddess. That means they are starting to believe in immaterial reality. Their presence in the warp may start to grow, enough for Chaos to take notice.

@jamesneese7663

Жыл бұрын

assuming their saving goddess isn't one of the four powers in a new guise .

@rexstocephirxiii4263

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesneese7663 yeah with Nurgle and Korn being consistently masculine it's probably Slaanesh, or Xeentch being random.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@rexstocephirxiii4263 Or the “Greater good” Goddess is a minor chaos goddess created by Tau simps (As in invented by The Tau species) allied to Tzeench in an attempt to make a reverse Horus heresy.

@inthefade

Жыл бұрын

It's s Tzeench play from 100 miles away.

@TheManofthecross

4 ай бұрын

and thus chaos forces will have a crack at them with the gods ordering one of there serverts both mortal and demon to take a force (any size will do think the very damocles gulf crusade for example) and test the tau with this. (same in warhammer fantasy with the chaos forces ordering one of there servents to take a force to test cathey's defense at the great bastian for example.)

Shadowsun will be exiled and will make her own T'au faction.

@williamings773

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps an ally for Farsight, saving them from Chaos.

@TheManofthecross

4 ай бұрын

and shadowsun will along with farsight and the others who studied under there master will shatter the tau unity forever and show even to the imperium that the tau are not all that they are cracked up to be and the imperium will laugh as a whole but will use this to trully pull an uno and annex the tau empire directly and use the lot for front line work.

Wouldn’t it be cool if this Goddess and the Emperor met and allied with one another? Maybe the Emperor could build his own pantheon of Gods and Goddesses to fight against Chaos and restore the warp to its natural state of calm.

@lokensicarius9347

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's what he's up to, with Primarchs more or less confirmed to be human aligned warp entities flesh. If the Eldar can manufacture gods i'm sure big E can too.

@EmperorNortonII

Жыл бұрын

@@lokensicarius9347 Well, the souls of Sanguinius, Ferus Manus, and Konrad Curze still exist, no? Maybe Alpharius and Omegon managed to avoid having theirs eaten by Chaos, too. Curze may be trapped in a soul stone, though.

@DoomStarRequiem

Жыл бұрын

Smells like Age of Sigmar lol

@brick-men

Жыл бұрын

The Gods of Order

I think there will be a uniting of alien and empire versus either chaos or chaos and the tyranids. I am really excited about what plotlines will be progressed by 10th edition. Love the lore and the speculation. The emperor protects.

@From-North-Jersey

Жыл бұрын

The Tau Goddess is in fact a Tzeench long con.

@markcoroneos7811

Жыл бұрын

@@From-North-Jerseyit was alpharius all along *twirl’s moustache*

@inthefade

Жыл бұрын

@@From-North-Jersey lol I just made this same comment.

this could be the watershed moment for the empire and there understanding of the warp and the beliefs and desires of the races of the universe. the goddess is after all born from the humans (and others) belief and devotion to the greater good. the way they get there and the devisions that it will cause would be an awsome story and setting for events

@TheManofthecross

4 ай бұрын

yep and the imperium will captalize on this for a long ass time to come.

Team farsight

@123CantCatchMe

Жыл бұрын

I'm still holding out hope that Farsight makes an appearance in the Lion's Arks of Omen book (since EVERY OTHER CHARACTER who had a book in the series will be there...). Maybe the Farsight Enclaves will be the Lion's Ynnari.

@williamings773

Жыл бұрын

Are we going to end up with a "new gods" ending where Emperor and friends join up and unite the mortals against Chaos? Idk how I feel about that, as long as it gets more breathing room than end times...

@123CantCatchMe

Жыл бұрын

@@williamings773 I think returning Primarchs are as close as we'll ever get to the Emperor come back, unless it's a grand finale-type thing. GW has a LOT of directions to go before they get to that point, though.

@TrevorJNagy

Жыл бұрын

@@williamings773 Meanwhile in the Webway of Justice!

It's a God of Tzeentch, a changer of ways.

great video as allways glad your starting cover the tau that tends be an overlooked faction if your going do an tau week would love if you did some stuff on farsight enclaves and farsight himself

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏

I love it how their own god isn’t even T’au made. I bet it’s gonna get killed, if it were killed by the emperor it would be pretty amazing, and I think it would be good to show the merciless side of the emperor killing “the greater good” and the traitor humans. It would be like a great crusade but for real warp gods.

"Lets jump right in!" Proceeds to talk more about the context, rather than jumping right in xD Gotta love lore videos on KZread

Farsight enclave has got to be the best place to live.

I mean I like the tau and the farsight enclaves because they represent a regular si-fi faction in the middle of a galaxy full of devils and maniacs . While they aren’t grimdark it is grimdark that they are too small to make a significant impact to the galaxy. Like if everything is grimdark doesn’t it start it not be grimdark. It starts to be regular so GW has to make the atrocities to become worse and worse until it mostly becomes pointless or basically a full galactic wipe like the halo array.

If I’m going to be honest I really don’t like the idea of the tau having a civil war. Some people are saying there should be a farsight heresy but in the lore for that to happen they would need to retcon a hand full of things like the Ethereal’s deciding to just ignore the fsoc. Farsight just wanting to do his own thing and that even both sides agree that killing another tau is socially unacceptable. Also it would make them even smaller in the lore then they already are because if they split up into multiple groups on the 40k map they would just not exist.

@Nukefandango

Жыл бұрын

The Tau having a civil war is insane, stupid, and cringe.

@orrorsaness5942

Жыл бұрын

@@Nukefandango IKR! Besides, even if there is a civil war, it should be against that sussy baka Chaos Goddess, The Greater Good… larping abomination !

I can’t wait to see what happens in Farsights Ark of Omen novel.

@Broomer52

Жыл бұрын

Spoilers: Farsight almost falls to Khorne and briefly becomes Doomguy

A civil war with the Tau empire effectively takes them off the board as any sort of major player. Sure lets say it happens and it end up positive but the loss of manpower can only be a negative. With the leagues of Votann being introduced as another "tech forward" civ, I can only see the role of the Tau becoming more minor.

Shadowsuns doubt coming from an encounter with faith mirrors own Farsights doubt following an encounter with Chaos too well for it not to be intentional. Whether it will just remain a point of intrigue or a sign of a greater key change in the direction of the Tau is difficult to say. Although the fact that we know there is a third pupil of Puretide in Commander Kais and Tau have short life spans, maybe the idea is that Shadowsun becomes the first proto-saint of the Tau thus granting her independent character immortality / insurance in time for the next big timeline development? And if the intention is to make her a renegade or mythic individual then it opens up the floor for the third pupil of Puretide to step in. (Although the Monat war philosophy might poke a hole in that theory...)

@TheManofthecross

4 ай бұрын

yeah the tau already lost farsight and the lot and now with the lost of shaodwsun they can't afford to lose kais as well or if kais pulls off the same moves like the other two did and gain a long life span as well then it will be a romance of the three kingdoms era period in tau history.

Im so gonna make the Tau'va avatar model now.

I wonder how the existence of the Goddess would affect the Farsight Enclaves. If the Ethereals do try to stamp out the followers of the Goddess, then they may find safe harbor in the Enclaves. Farsight's greater understanding of Chaos could make him more accepting of their faith as it may provide his people with a greater means of resisting the influence of Chaos.

@TheManofthecross

4 ай бұрын

and the enclaves siding with the imperium will go for miles as well.

I really just can't wait for the towel to have a whole chaos arch. I really don't want to be farsight falling to corn but it would be really interesting to see. Or maybe the ethereals fallen under the sway of the other gods

So the ally races all joined the Tau because the were sold some ideal of a Tau goddess? Dammit, the rumours were true! The Tau used waifus to turn people to their side!

By mentioning this deity had both human and tau features, this makes me think that the Emperor of mankind may be trying to influence the tau. I mean, even before his battle with Horus, the emperor was unsurpassed in his powers of concealing his true form. Now that he seems to be achieving godhood, manipulating the tau by pretending to be a tau deity would be childs play to him. Putting the tau into civil war would be the best way to prevent the tau from invading Imperial systems while minimizing casualties and resources

@geoffreypershouse70

Жыл бұрын

that or the emperor is setting the tau up to ally with humanity since their tech would help humanity greatly

@kateyderr3077

Жыл бұрын

@@geoffreypershouse70 if only those damn tech priests were willing to integrate tau tech into their forge worlds. Imagine a space marine with a rail gun, or even a titan sized one capable of hitting a target across a continent or an orbiting ship. Let's take overkill to the next level: ultrakill. 😆

I think the Ethereals have some form of pheremonal control over their subjects. The Tao literally loose the ability to resist the ethereal when in their presence. It's got to be a biological process. Another thought is that perhaps we are watching the Tao undergo the same processes that humanity went through in our earliest ages. Maybe they are forming a Tao form of the Emperor in the Warp, my own head cannon, and only time will tell if it is stable enough to enter reality.

Shadowsun in the book is amazing reading the farsight novels now

I think the farsight enclave will be ramping up soon

Seeing farsight fall to chaos and shadowsun become the arbiter of the goddess would be awesome.

Sweet and just in time for my Tau va killteam. With the old darkstrider model, he just looks like he is trying to scream at the humans to go!

I am so down for a Tau week!

The Blood God having a hard-on for Farsight is a worry

Empire: Hey Tau, you liars, your leader has been dead for years! Naughty boys, lying to your people like that. Tau: ... yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah?

@cr90captain89

Жыл бұрын

empire: his body has just atrophied from the scheme of ancient enemies, he still lives in deathless vigilance, otherwise our beacon would begone. but your leader is gone , & he ain't coming back. your empire is only under 2 millennia old & already it has begun to fracture, ours has withstood 10k years of constant wars from multiple fronts, 10k years of rule without our emperor to directly guide us, & yet his empire remains unbroken, his rule of the galaxy is absolute. traitors flee into the immaterium to escape our wrathful reprisals, xenos save the orks & nids either avoid us, or enter diplomacy to not be rolled over.

@Subject_Keter

Жыл бұрын

@@cr90captain89 Take out the God Emperor from the lore and.. oh boy Humanity is ultra screwed.

@callumjohnston858

Жыл бұрын

He's not an undead warp entity, he's just pining for the fjords. They all dried up 20,000 years back.

@CountDVB

Жыл бұрын

@@cr90captain89 Yet he was practically a foot in the grave with the decaying throne and was saved by the dumb luck of the Warp ift. That and when it comes to lying to people, the Emperor's deception runs deeper

@Sanguinius999

Жыл бұрын

Average Tau enjoyer 👎

Would be interesting to see an AI uprising as they realize how more powerful they are and that they can be free, imagine the tau at the height of their hubris, brought low by the very technology they relied on to survive, the bitter irony

Yay more Tau lore

Hate to break the purge train, but in War of Secrets they had to use the Dark Angels to purge their undesirables because the Empire would not approve of them mass murdering auxiliaries and such.

Farsight and Shadowsun against the Ethereals?

What is so important about the Tau God is that it is born out of the believe of the non Tau species. Unlike the Tau, which are practically forced to believe the greater Good the non Tau Species believe in it out of actual conviction. The non tau species believe in it by themselves, without any Etherials mind controlling them. That's what makes the Tau so much more interesting to me.

Some would call her the Greater Goodess.

The tau may currently be non psychic but I believe that all sentient species have "grace" periods as humans weren't very psychic until later in their timeline and are still becoming more psychic as time goes on. In time the tau must begin their descent into madness and lose their innocence. In some ways this could be likened to eating the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge, an act no species is ever truly prepared for. All "gods" are inherently Daemons of the warp. This, I like to think, includes the "God emperor" who is the manifestation of the imperium and not the actual emperor who is dying forever on Terra. Not all warp entities are malevolent though pockets of benevolence are justifiable small with in the context of the warp itself. Aka paradise exist with in the warp and paradise is always lost in any story its "found" in. In the end the Tau were defeated by starting their journey. The tau will always exist as "the Tau and everyone else in tau space", the greater good simply can't accommodate this hypocrisy forever. No one else can ever truly be Tau but the Tau and eventually the Tau will be forced to admit this and don't be their ally on that day.

Tau with holy Battlesuits once belonging to martyrs of their goddess would be great!

There is the more terrifying idea. That the new God is much like the old eldar gods… loyal and subservient to the Etherial ones. Their power and influence now able to “infect” the other races on their soul level. The etherials able to guide and direct the force of a god. Would help shake the faith of humanity’s fractured and isolated empire. It all sounds benign, until you consider the extremes such a scenario have.

The ending theorys sounds alot like malleus and hereticus of the imperium

Don’t see why they can’t just promote someone else in place of Aun’Va rather than keep up the charade. It’s not a particularly good parallel to the Emperor if that’s what they’re aiming for.

@DERADI30

Жыл бұрын

It's especially weird considering the timescale. Sure, they might not want to admit to the assasination, but given the time that has passed in current 40k they could just say he died of old age and be done with this charade.

I'm surprised there is a tau god at all. The tau empire is pretty small on a galactic scale and even with some human worlds peacefully incorporated into the empire there still aren't THAT many of them in the tau sphere. The birth of Slaanesh took untold trillions of eldar (if not more) engaging in ever greater debauchery. The tau empire consists of... what? Around 100 inhabited worlds? And only a part of those worlds are non-tau.

@Diyel

Жыл бұрын

It's a warp entity at this point, so to speak and not a proper Warp God, in the sense of being in the likes of Ruinous Powers or even minor gods like Vashtorr and Belakor.

@christosvozikis881

Жыл бұрын

@@Diyel All 'gods' are warp entities though. They are been identiefied as gods because the psychic backlash of their lets say portfolios grands them power that is perceived as god like. Its the same with all the eldar 'gods' and so is with the chaos ones, and so it appears to start to be with the dying man on the chair. But, the thing is, the goddess might even be a manifestation of the 4 trying to manipulate the tau. Tzeentch has tried this numerous times manifesting his deamons as a corrupt branch of the imperial faith.

@slitor

Жыл бұрын

To me... I think it means there is substance in "The Greater Good", the Tau isn't just bullshitting. And as results the Tau allies have shown actual honest devotion. Absurd as it is turning a concept of non-zero sum game into a god.

I guess it would be safe to say she's a demigod like Vashtorr.

Need more O'Kais

If Shadow Sun were to contact Farsight and her finding of the goddess then Farsight may be save from Khrone influence

Yay Tau lore. 🎉

Chaos Gods 😮Om Nom Nom Nom blueberries!!!

"A star to set your soul by. This is our Goddess." -a T'au believer.

I’m just going to put this out there but Shadowsun the avatar of the greater good.

The tau aren't completely psy null. The ethereal are definitely psonic in nature. In one of the Farsight books an official that saw something they shouldn't, the ethereal make them kill themselves through some power. The official didn't have control of themselves when they did it.

@nonya1366

Жыл бұрын

I'd wager mind control can happen through non-psyker means as well. Mechanical, Psychological, etc.

Woudnt greater good goddess want to keep castes as they are? It's been birthed from belief that they are sacred and necessary for greater good so...

Honestly, i'm fine with a greater good divinity. Just teach the people that this being is the living representation of the greater good, not a divinity to be worshipped directly. The chaos gods are very real, it's not such a bad thing to have ONE ally on the inside. It's also an interesting door opening, could the tau empire wield faith as magic instead of psyker powers? sororitas, even non psychic ones, can materialize miracles based on faith alone. The ethereal will be 100% against all this of course since, like you said, that would make them accountable for their decisions and cost them power. a shadowsun/farsight VS surestrike/ethereal civil war is very possible in the future.

So…. Everyone is saying Farsight Heresy… but why not the Shadowsun Heresy, she is the one who kicking off a civil war.

damn, didn't even mention Farsight

Farsight has had his own encounters with daemonic entities, so you know this will get The Enclaves involved

It would make sense to make a religious cast now with the Ethereals leading it of course

The Ethereals forming different factions on the issue would be very interesting. The policy of the Tau has been to integrate other species to make the empire stronger; and in a very real way, this Tau'va goddess is making the empire stronger. By dividing the Ethereals, we could get some real answers about who the Ethereals are as people and their history as well. Do the Ethereals truly believe in the Greater Good, or is that just a convenient philosophy to maintain political power? Are all Ethereals scheming bastards, or are there true believers among their number? The potential lore building is quite vast.

I personally see the corruption of the Tau more under Slaanesh or under Nurgle.

Maybe the ethereals already use the godess power. By having her trapped/bound and uses her power to enthrall the tau. But she have escaped or her binds have losend and she tries to get other tau leaders to recognize her and in the end free her from the etherals grip.

@DERADI30

Жыл бұрын

The etherials have had influence over other tau back when the race was pre-industrial. This would mean that the entity predates the tau. The theory that the etherials were created to shape the species for something isn't unheard of, but if the warp entity was already around they would have been aware of the concequences that recruiting psychic races would bring.

@shad0wfribe

Жыл бұрын

@@DERADI30 true and somewhere I think it’s stated that the Imperium could’nt sense any psychic or warp based reason to the ethereals control over the Tau🤔

The worship of a deity of the greater good would be a threat to the Ethereals. All regimes that banish religion do so to deny that there is any moral reality *outside* the state.

Funsight's Hennessy

Chaos Trojan horse.

Since their integration into the 40k universe, the Tau always felt... off. But not the T'au themselves : the ones calling themselves the "Ethereal" and their coming to the T'au. It always felt like they were exterior to the T'au in every litteral sense of the term ; that they were _alien_ to the "Alien" T'au, in the sense that they had their appearence but certainly not their "heart". What i mean by that is this : the T'au and their fate were basically just as ludicruously cliche and cringe as it comes : primitives hitting industrial era then armaggedding themselves into oblivion for (seemingly) no bloody reason. In other words, it should've been nothing but another unremarkable blip on the galactic glossary of never ending shameful shenanigans that composes it ; something so unremarkable that it shouldn't be worth even mentionning at all. Then the Ethereal appears, _seemingly out of nowhere_ and decide to f*ck with the script ; telling everyone to shill out, unite as a whole and kick science's ass and it's applications towards the military indusrial complex onto absolute overdrive. Six thousand years later, as the Imperium come into contact with them again, the T'au field anti-grav tech as basic, flying mecha like they'd be shitting takns and fielding Chickens and Wasps on steroids with guns. Like as if it was the most natural thing in the world. It's like the Tau were either an artificial species or one having been artificially tempered with by an external force that decided to re-do what has seemingly failed with Mankind. Like an "Imperium" 2.0 (not Guilliman style. Obviously.) I mean the similarities are stricking : Banning of faith. Council of bureaucrats with absolute power leading the whole thing. Emphasis on science and technology as it's core tenets. Propose annexation to foreign worlds into the Empire and destruction if refusing (slight divergence with the humano-centrist Imperium... but still.) An intangible autocratic ideology serving as the unquestionnable element that bind it's subjects into servitude (Imperial Truth, Greater Good.) Complete denial of Chaos existence and the warp' shenanigans to the population. Sounds like Big E got quite the fanbase. Because some of them decided to "resurrect the Beatles" up to their own standards, so to speak.

Reeeaaally hoping the Tau God/Goddess is not the Emperor in disguise. Then again it would be funny if the emperor of Man decided to ditch Mankind and is now aiming to lead the Tau instead XD

Human and Tau no don't tell me this is like a Babylon 5 reveal about humans and minbari

Greater Good Goddess x God-Emperor when?

@HeIsAnAli

Жыл бұрын

I dunno, Eldar booty is far more appealing to the Emperor.

So humans attract the chaos gods with their emotions does this now reflect onto the Tau? If humans have established a new god within their empire does this now attract chaos to them? So many questions!!

I don't like the Tau structure but I do like the fact that their more tech than the other factions... To make a long story short I wish GW would make a new faction of Dark Age Humans that are just spewed out from the warp, with all the goodies mankind had in those days *le sigh*

The Tau We'll get mine science now. Yes!

The shadowsun heresy

I mean, if this plays out like real world religions, there's no greater tool for enforcing artificial hierarchy than religion. The Tau Ethereals could lock their power down permanently if they embrace the Goddess and present themselves as her clergy.

Will there be a new Ethereal Supreme or something like that?

I want more Tau auxiliary models, not some heresy 2.0

Gets to me that the unbelievers that are the tau get a goddess but the ancient orks all of 1 belief haven't managed to birth gork & mork. Or am i wrong? Is there any stories about the ork gods alive in the warp?