Primaris: this isn't fair Custodes: so anyways, I start blastin

@lkvideos7181

4 жыл бұрын

​@roast beef "In the name of the ... 'Corpse Emperor' ... -.-" *BLAM* *BLAM* *BLAM* *BLAM*

@redsampler2017

3 жыл бұрын

so many people in this comment section would be traitors to the emperor talking about: -not guilty (well others think guilty) -not fair (well others think it is fair) -not our fault (well others think it is your fault) -am i my brothers keeper? (yes when you belong to same dna/blood, and also in that there is a problem because where lies your loyalty?) -its only logical (well to you it is , and that is a problem, because it removes any doubt that you may be wrong) etc etc etc etc all these excuses have been played out in full during the horus heresy, all sorts of primarchs,marines, titan commanders,mechanicus priests or just plain old foot soldiers all thinking they are right and they have rights.. sure the custodes are d!ckheads. well look at what they where protecting?? the emperor and his truth, his logic, his reasoning etc etc the emperor is a d!ckhead. the last church is just one example, but how he treats his own sons is another., but best example for me is: ''When the Emperor came to dominion and ended Old Night on Ancient Terra in the Unification Wars, all Adrathic Weapons were given over to Him on pain of death, not simply to the one who retained them but to their entire land and nation such was the importance He placed on controlling this technology. '' this is the kind of d!ckhead we are talking about.. killing entire nations because someone had an ancient weapon. well that wasn,t the other millions of fellow countrymen,s fault neither.. and yet he ordered it anyways. he acts the humanity caring guy, but has no qualms mass murdering septillions of beings.. playing his own form of god. and then people go off in the comment section about his bodyguards who are his literal mouthpiece. i highly doubt if these people really GET the grimdarkness of 40k to its fullest extend.. its literal hell, and after you die you go to even worser hell.. and it doesn,t do fair.

@Bajicoy

3 жыл бұрын

@@redsampler2017 Go back to the eye of terror word bearer topkek

@redsampler2017

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bajicoy LOL hahaha good one ;-) i hate the traitors with a passion actually. especially lorgar.. its just that emperor isn,t that trustworthy either, and his bodyguards are molded to fit him. so yeah chip of the old block.. apple from the tree , all that stuff

@Bajicoy

3 жыл бұрын

@@redsampler2017 haha, glad you got it XD and so true haaaa, please don't leak this to the inquisition

While the Alpha legion on the planet rub their hands together.

@t.kunnard5218

4 жыл бұрын

Brother, I am Alpharius.

@burntham113

4 жыл бұрын

Oooo, that's too good. This is 100% something that they'd do.

@grimgoreironhide9985

4 жыл бұрын

*birdman rubbing hands*

@aphato2770

4 жыл бұрын

HYDRA DOMINATUS

@chaplainwierddream

4 жыл бұрын

He he he yeah boys.

Primaris: They accused us of heresy even though we did nothing wrong. 1K Sons: First time? Edit: I'm just now seeing the pot i stirred after three years. Also thanks for the 2k. feels nice lol

@mostlyjovial6177

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao I need this as an actual meme now.

@StarryNightSky587

4 жыл бұрын

Their existence is heresy.

@stephenkolostyak4087

4 жыл бұрын

yeah

@ultrasmurf1245

4 жыл бұрын

Guardsmen: you guys get accused before getting executed?!

@Marc-zi4vg

4 жыл бұрын

Dark Angels : *amateurs*

Test of loyalty or not, I'm pretty sure this is how you get Chaos Primaris.

@jefferyjoyner6032

3 жыл бұрын

Albert The Hun I do agree, but they might not be too fond of the emporer when what they see as HIS hand and judgement not only accused but killed them and basically disowned them in the name of the imperium

@ptbot3294

3 жыл бұрын

Custodes: See? They have chaos taint. We did the right thing by purging as many of them as possible. A true servant will accept Emperor's purification like the millions of psykers nomnom that we feed to Emperor every day.

@romabeg1236

2 жыл бұрын

If I were a space marine I sure as hell am not going to be very loyal if I have to be afraid my own allies will execute me for being a traitor when I have done nothing wrong. I mean come on.

@Blazerwolf666

2 жыл бұрын

Renegade Primaris more likely

@animemanXLK

Жыл бұрын

That's kind of hard when the Custodes butchered them all.

"Noooononono you cant just declare us traitors we were with you the whole time!" " hehe guardian spear go fizz "

@noone-qe8zh

3 жыл бұрын

Garrion sus...

@dersuddeutschesumpf5444

3 жыл бұрын

Garrion didn't do nuthin

And Guilliman felt the uncontrollable urge to facepalm.

@svagglaorde4387

4 жыл бұрын

Tzeench: (Demonic Laugh Intensifies)

@Nothv13

4 жыл бұрын

@Sean Turner You really think that? The Emporer, who in the past has been shown willing to put down his entire fighting force as he views them as tools, face palming as his those closest to him designed and built to be much closer to him intellectually than almost anything else (likely including most of the primarchs), for killing a bunch of tools that showed loyalty to their heretical brothers they never met instead of the Emporer.

@derpyboi8591

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nothv13 So because your too dense to get it I'll spell it out, the Custodes were going to kill the Primaris even if they surrendered, the entire point was they didn't think it was fair to have to pay for the sins of their fallen chapter when they never even met them

@Nothv13

3 жыл бұрын

@@derpyboi8591 Too dense? Custodes hate the Astartes, could they have yes. DO we know for sure? No. All the disobeying did was guarantee they deaths of all those Primaris. In short disobeying the closest thing to Big E is grounds for punishment.

@alstenfung5508

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nothv13 smh, all this talk about super soldiers and demigods, when good old artillery with the guards can kick any heretics' ass.

Christ this actually pisses me off. Damned if they surrender, damned if they don't. Roboute's going to field a headache for weeks when he finds out about this.

@trrebi981

4 жыл бұрын

They could have just disarmed. Their pride is what got them killed.

@thunberbolttwo3953

4 жыл бұрын

@@trrebi981 Wrong they were dead. Once they were acused.

@yadakakadu

4 жыл бұрын

@John the Skub miner It was implied as heavily as if a trigger happy inquisitor have said it.

@tobiaspain

4 жыл бұрын

Dylan Charles I would love to know if Roboute had words with those custodies at some point after.

@jackbishop7693

4 жыл бұрын

@@trrebi981 "Were you loyal, you would set down your weapons, and accept your guilt." Guilt for acts he and his brothers did not know about, or help commit. And in an "absolute justice" environ like the Imperium, mercy is not dispensed often; this was a death sentence, despite no collusion whatsoever with heretical forces.

“The Custodies are assholes” - Magnus the Red Primarch of the Thousand Sons legion

@xero0083

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@lateshpatil5307

2 жыл бұрын

Intent is irrelevant Magnus...

@inquisitormaddox8581

2 жыл бұрын

@@lateshpatil5307 Magnus is dumb Except Magnus the pious he’s pretty cool

@Adrian-vd6ji

4 ай бұрын

consider the source, a big red asshole himself

Where is kitten when you need him for diplomacy?

@HubiKoshi

4 жыл бұрын

Off to play the Children's Card Game with the Void Dragon.

@DCPTF2

4 жыл бұрын

In the fanfiction which taints the community with each person who brings it up

@booradley6832

4 жыл бұрын

😎sometimes fate is a strange thing my dude😎

@jaghatai_bulut

3 жыл бұрын

"Good morning primaris, how are you this daaaahaaay"

@flyboy6392

3 жыл бұрын

@@booradley6832 STOP IT! NOT CANON!

"Yes Lord Inquisitor, that's the one who ordered the arrest!" *LORD INQUISITOR LOOKS AT CUSTODES* "Are you sure citizen?" "Yes m'lord" "Hmmmm....sorry... you're on your own for this one."

@forgefartherloki6585

4 жыл бұрын

I want to see this in a book so bad. Just an inquisitor having to go nope and back away slowly from the guardian of a god essentially.

@fumarc4501

4 жыл бұрын

Ordo Custodes are cowards!!!

@loganjustlogan8367

4 жыл бұрын

@@fumarc4501 go say that to one then. If it's true you have nothing to fear.

@fumarc4501

4 жыл бұрын

@logan just logan If I must, I would follow Ollanius Pius’ example. A subhuman automaton may answer to the Emperor, but he is not above Humanity.

@Shayrin2

4 жыл бұрын

@@fumarc4501 Then go ahead, we are watching you. Or rather, we'll be watching the fireworks that'll be your guts and body parts the second you told that.

Custodes are supposed to be great thinkers and philosophers. They value independent freedom and will. This scene would make sense for grey Knights to carry out, but not for the Custodes.

@Mrkti

2 жыл бұрын

That's why the didn't kill them outright. But their geneseed and general loyalty had to be tested. And the primaris didn't follow orders from superiors or trust others judgement. Like all others are incapable of proper decisions

@morgs456

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that but primaris don't have the same gene seed as the chapters they are joining. So why would the custodes tar them with that brush? Makes no sense. This is where GW are just trying to make money.

@morgs456

2 жыл бұрын

If this actually happened in a real scenario then the custodes would have to declare war on the entire astartes with that gene seed so let's say the whole of the iron fists for example and/or gulliman has to chastise the custodes, which would be perceived as chastising the emperor. Either way civil war

@Mrkti

2 жыл бұрын

@@morgs456 Why would chastising lead tp civil war? Do you want to go to war everytime someone talks harshy to you?

@morgs456

2 жыл бұрын

Like I said. If gulliman chastised the custodes it would be seen as a afront to big E as the custodes "speak with the voice of the emperor " And gulliman couldn't do nothing as imagine if the hundreds of thousands of primaris learnt their brothers were murdered by association. It would be chaos (scuse the pun) in real life scenario. It's a poorly written story.

Custodes Captain: "We started nothing". Also Custodes Captain: *Willing to execute the Primaris that had no contact with the traitors. And fires the first fucking shot at someone pleading their innocence*

@christiandauz3742

3 жыл бұрын

Custodes treat Inquisitors and High Lords like how they treat everyone else Even Guilliman is below the Custodes Only the Emperor has authority over the Custodes

@FoxHound-ut1hu

3 жыл бұрын

@@christiandauz3742 They might think they are better than him but they aren't, that's the simple truth, Custodes are machines while Guilliman is more human than they could ever be.

@christiandauz3742

3 жыл бұрын

@@FoxHound-ut1hu Guilliman is a Warp Creature

@FoxHound-ut1hu

3 жыл бұрын

@@christiandauz3742 emotion, free will, love, pride, joy, anger. Human. The Primarchs are the personification of the aspects of humanity. That's not to mention that Guilliman would rip any of the Custodes to pieces.

@christiandauz3742

3 жыл бұрын

@@FoxHound-ut1hu Except Valdor, especially since he has drank the Chaos Kool-Aid

"You're huge! That means you have huge guts!"- Theologian Warrior Valerian circa M41

@dranoelarios4788

4 жыл бұрын

RIP AND TEAR

@mostlyjovial6177

4 жыл бұрын

*KAR UN TUK*

I guess this is just a recreation of the Thunder Warrior and Custodes fight of old.

@oatlord

4 жыл бұрын

"No one better at killing superhumans than us, dammit."

@Earadon

4 жыл бұрын

"How could he..."

@fortyforts4436

4 жыл бұрын

Love the idea 👍.

@rickyblitz9679

4 жыл бұрын

Earadon you watch Baldermort’s video too ? 😏

@Earadon

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickyblitz9679 Damn right, boyo~

Primaris Marine: "We didn't betray you! Why are you killing us for others mistakes?!" Dark Angel McClane: Welcome to the party pal!

@jungoogie

4 жыл бұрын

Loyalty of Emperor above all else, even your battle brothers. Not following commands of the Custody is absolute heresy and is what it is. That's WH40k for ya.

@Watcher-in-the-Dark

4 жыл бұрын

@@jungoogie Making traitors out of the most loyal is also the WH40K for you, hmmm makes ya think lol.

@timh1319

Жыл бұрын

Dark Angels may not be " traitor" but they have betrayed in their own ways more than once.

Imagine guys who failed to do their one job judges you on how to do yours.

@SawyerKnight

4 жыл бұрын

damn, that was Savage!

@cyberdiver7076

4 жыл бұрын

Everytime the guy at the bottom of the scoreboard complains about how bad the team is.

@shahriyarislam4693

4 жыл бұрын

Those golden bananas aren't gonna recover from this one.

@carlstanford7607

4 жыл бұрын

Nice burn

@georgesoha4725

4 жыл бұрын

Bolts fired damn!

The fighting itself was well written, but everything else about this situation is ridiculous. I really don't understand why so many authors think of the Custodes as bigger, more autistic versions of Space Marines. First and foremost, they are philosophers and intellectuals. They are one of the few factions left in the Imperium that try to make logical decisions. This was some straight up Inquisition thought process there. If this is GW's way of making renegade Primaris, it was very poorly done. It seems to me this was either a huge miscommunication in what was supposed to be written, or they gave the job to someone that didn't bother to look too deeply into Custodes lore. Hopefully they see all the outrage about this story and don't make the same mistake again.

@aldran7423

4 жыл бұрын

The order was calculated. He told them to stand down and surrender. It was a test. Look at the way the captain answers. He did not say that his primaris have nothing to do with this. His first reply was that this must be a mistake. His brothers would not do this. It is true that the primaris have not met their heretical counterparts and thus cannot be blamed for their actions but on the same account, that captain was willing to defend his "brothers" even though he never met them before. Mind you that the shield captain did not specifically claim that they must also die until the fight started. By the time the proper argument came out of the second marine it was too late, not that the argument really mattered. For all we know the custode's plan was to keep them secured until they purged the heretical chapter and then replace them with the primaris, but the primaris already showed that they would side with a "brother" they know nothing about and have not met.

@Leivve

4 жыл бұрын

Do you know of anywhere this outrage is happening? I don't have to many channels I listen to, but of those, there is no complaint about this. (I do think you're right though)

@RanRayu

4 жыл бұрын

i could be wrong but it seems you think custodes as more thoughtfull and reasonable astartes, they arent. it wouldnt be a stretch to say they despise the astartes, even the ones that never turned traitor. and custodes are not first and foremost philosophers and intellectuals, they are warriors of the emperor, they are his warhounds, they do often show a tendency to be more calculating than others in the imperium and put in more thought before they destroy someone for heresy, unlike the inquisition that will burn your city if you look at them in a way they deem to be incorrect. and in this case the big difference between the inquisition and the custodes is that the custodes told the primaris to disarm and surrender, cause no inquisitor is gonna demand surrender in this instance, the primaris would jus suddenly be on fire xD

@TheSonOfDumb

4 жыл бұрын

@@RanRayu Don't retroactively justify piss-poor, shock-value-only writing. Every other depiction of the Custodes (in actual novels at least) has them as intellectual warrior-poets, not bloodthirsty egomaniacs looking for the smallest excuse to fire their bolters. The authors of these short stories are hacks who take upon 40k at only surface level depth. They probably only write short stories because they are too incompetent to write full novels.

@andreaghiretti8189

4 жыл бұрын

@@aldran7423 he later said that dropping their weapons meant admitting their guilt, aka cospiring with chaos (thats what diabolicus extremis means) and the punishment for that is death. So if they didnt they were disobeing orders, so they would kill them. If they did, they admitted of working with the enemy, so they would kill them. The guy had a bias against marines like many custodes, and he just got a great opportunity of killing some. So he used it.

"He does not need proof, he's the Emperor's Word!"

@GabrielLopez-mo2xo

4 жыл бұрын

"I am the Omnissiah's voice and my word is as true!"

@orcslayerwhatifs4507

4 жыл бұрын

"Oh you really think so "clapping"f you

@edim108

4 жыл бұрын

@@orcslayerwhatifs4507 "How about we go ahead and call our Emperor?"

@sokratikas

4 жыл бұрын

@@edim108 "he has got a text to speech now"

@orcslayerwhatifs4507

4 жыл бұрын

"And a fiery temper

Custodes: Please Cooperate Primaris: If I my speak in our def Custodes: Bolter goes BRRRRRRRR

By the Emperor my art hath been used as a glorious thumbnail! Thank you and Praise the Emperor!!! Custodes Aeternum

@TheLittleGuy1

Жыл бұрын

This needs a pin!

Primaris fans: "NOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST CALL PRIMARIS HERETICS AND OPEN FIRE AT THEM!" Custodes Captain: *"Haha, bolters go boom boom"*

@clemo85

4 жыл бұрын

You sir deserve top comment.

@warhound1161

4 жыл бұрын

Yup custodes are just gold orks

@randomcenturion7264

4 жыл бұрын

@@warhound1161 Custodes: The pinbacle of Flash Gitz.

@lamb_link

4 жыл бұрын

war hound

@warhound1161

4 жыл бұрын

@@lamb_link no actually I'm loyal to first generation astartes I think there something up about the primaris

There’s no grey area when it comes to loyalty to the emperor in 40k. Those poor new marines never stood a chance

@EchoMirage72

4 жыл бұрын

They. Did. Not. Betray. The. Emperor.

@thelardmaker6806

4 жыл бұрын

@@EchoMirage72 The Primaris are super soldier created to be 100% indoctrainated/brainwashed loyal to the emperor without any question and doubt only to follow his orders above all others. They may be loyal to their brothers, they may be even loyal to their Primarchs but above all they must be loyal to the Emperor than any of them. Any orders given by a Custode is equivalent to being given by the Emperor himself They are not a bunch of Guardsmen who have supposed free will to think and question especially towards the Emperor since they are not indoctrinated/brainwashed.

@commissarlugh1040

4 жыл бұрын

They gave them 2 chances to surrender. They chose to challenge the authority of the Imperial household. You don't have to be genius to know that was a bad idea.

@timtim6373

4 жыл бұрын

Echomirage They. Disobeyed. An. Order. From. A. Superior.

@stevepalpatine2828

3 жыл бұрын

The Custodes are supposed to be philosopher warriors, but too often are portrayed as brain dead automata and this is a prime example, the Primaris hadn't betrayed anyone, _they hadn't even made contact with the heretic chapter they were supposed to join yet,_ there was absolutely no reason to condemn them with the heretics, their deployment orders should have simply been rescinded and them joined to a different chapter. It's like if you send reinforcements to a platoon of Marines, that you then find have gone My Lai on a bunch of villagers, and charging the reinforcements (who have not left the base yet to even join up with their new unit) with the same crime as the villager murderers. It's so dumb I cannot believe anyone is defending it.

Ok, this kinda pisses me off here. In almost all other books, the Custodians are portrayed as super intellectual warrior poets that are tailor crafted from the Emperor's own Geneseed to be the perfect warriors and bodyguards, always calm, always collected and several void whales ahead of most people in foresight. And yet, this story just makes them out to be completely unreasonable and trigger-happy like a Inquisitior in golden armor. Either the writer is actually unaware of the lore behind the Custodes, or simply wanted to make them look worse than Guilliman's perfect marines.

@vectorequinox6202

2 жыл бұрын

I know it's been a year but my bet is that this story is just meant to show that Primaris, while stronger than the firstborn, still can't stack up to the Custodes.

@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221

2 жыл бұрын

@@vectorequinox6202 That I can understand, but there were a fair few other ways to do that other than just making the custodian seem so... trigger happy and reasonable. This is like the custodian vs harlequin thing again... or worse, the world eater traitor marine punching custodian hearts out with his bare fists.

@vectorequinox6202

2 жыл бұрын

@@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221 I entirely agree. My point though was that maybe this story was a little rushed just to make a point and so it seems a little underwritten. Definitely feel like a few tweaks could have made this a far better written story

@alekssbound

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, But Custodians dont have time to be super intellectual warrior poets, they spent 99.99999% of the time either fighting or protecting the emperor, and they have NO slack when it comes to ANY kind of heresey, with what happened during horus, the Custodes legit went into depression for ages because they had failed their single objective in the heresey which was to protect the emperor, so they will Strike back Even harder now against those who can be suspected or are confirmed to go against the emperor.

@CorwinTheOneAndOnly

Жыл бұрын

I hate how this is written, but I don't hate *what* was written. Keep in mind, these Primaris were extremely extremely young. They violated a verbal taboo that basically no other Astartes ever ever ever violate. It was probably just culture-shock of a sort, the Primaris didn't realize how much reverence they were supposed to direct towards the Custodes, nor were they aware of just how vulnerable they were to corruption that would dictate they be of the highest appearances in the presence of said Custodes. I believe the Custodes in question were also in an extremely bad mood that day due to them basically having to escort a bunch of space marines around instead of doing literally anything else. Just a shit show all around, but a very believable one from a warrior-politics perspective where corruption is a very real threat.

For some context, the Blazen Drakes chapter willingly rebelled against the imperium because their astartes kept mutating and had to be 'put down'. They became the Shriekan (dunno if I spelt that right) but I do believe that their geneseed was very suseptible to corruption and mutation. As for how the custodes handled this, it makes perfect sense in the mind of a custodes. Their only loyalty is to the emperor, not so much the imperium itself. If the blazen drakes primaris had surrendered then the custodes would have seen it as them placing their faith and trust in the emperor which to a custodes is the correct thing to do. You also have to keep in mind that custodes really really...REALLY don't like or trust the astartes because of the horus heresy. In short; the custodes blame the heresy and death of the emperor on the astartes, especially the black legion. Because if the astartes put their loyalty towards the emperor before their primarchs then the traitor primarchs would never have had an army to rebel with. The astartes are flawed and failed creations in the eyes of the custodes so I doubt it'd take much of an excuse for the custodes to start shooting space marines.

@CidVeldoril

Жыл бұрын

Except for the Imperial Fists. The Custodes really get along with their yellow building and maintenance crew.

@midgetydeath

Жыл бұрын

Ironically, I imagine that this means the Custodes view the loyalists of the traitor legions as the perfect Astartes. Still, you say they are only loyal to the Emperor. But, that isn't true. The Custodes are only loyal to what they decide the Emperor wants even if it means shitting on everything the Emperor built and preached. Such as undermining the Imperium's strength, this instance being only one of many examples. Also, choosing to allow the Imperium to decay and humanity to become a hell hole. What do I mean by this? The Captain-General by order of the Emperor holds the same authority as Him when He is not around. But, the Captain-Generals have almost never used this. The entire _point_ is for The Captain-General to rule the Imperium if the Emperor and his Regent are indisposed to, obviously, keep the Imperium running the way the Emperor wants it and advance humanity's domination and growth. They did the opposite of that. As far as I'm concerned, the Custodes are traitors. You don't have to turn to Chaos or have ill intentions to be a traitor. Shitting on what the Emperor wants and built and undermining or abandoning the species he dedicated his life and goals to is most definitely fucking betrayal.

@cinder1667

Жыл бұрын

@@CidVeldoril It had escaped me that chapter is basically always in construction attire 🚜👷‍♂️🔧

@richter6699

Жыл бұрын

In less words: Small minded murderers committed more small minded murder. Let them kill you willingly or make them fight for it. Those are your choices.

@dj_campfire3937

10 ай бұрын

@@midgetydeath I agree, sure you sad because daddy is in a life support wheelchair, but if the Emperor gave you the power to take care of the Empire HE made, but you don't, you failed him. Tbh Bobby G was more of a son to Big E than the Custodes because he didn't sulk and cry when Big E got put down, he did everything he could to preserve the Impurium. I like the Custodes but seeing flaws like this really shows that at the end of the day, Custodes are human.

Sometimes unquestionable loyalty to the emperor makes you unquestionably stupid.

@Chaos_Pawn

4 жыл бұрын

Relatable to all religions

@thelardmaker6806

4 жыл бұрын

The Primaris are super soldier created to be 100% indoctrainated/brainwashed loyal to the emperor without any question and doubt only to follow his orders above all others. They may be loyal to their brothers, they may be even loyal to their Primarchs but above all they must be loyal to the Emperor than any of them. Any orders given by a Custode is equivalent to being given by the Emperor himself They are not a bunch of Guardsmen who have supposed free will to think and question especially towards the Emperor since they are not indoctrinated/brainwashed.

@ptbot3294

4 жыл бұрын

Being stupid is a requirement in 40k. Hell they haven't innovate in 10000 years. If they were smarter they would have gone extinct from either recreating AI, or fall to demons.

@Caleb-en5bo

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelardmaker6806 Yea no You cant just substitute good story with slapping on an extra layer of grim dark, I see you defending the idea that you can in multiple comment threads. Its like how the saw movies turned into gore porn after the first movie.

@ferofax

4 жыл бұрын

The point was made. They chose their own brothers over the Emperor. You don't question a Custodes - you obey, or you die. Sure, it's not fair. Then again, there's nothing fair about the 40k universe.

Man that fast huh, I haven’t seen some marines turn traitor that fast since, erm.. I don’t wanna talk about it.

@wolfhound4449

3 жыл бұрын

world eaters?

Something i would like to point in. In Master of Mankind, a similar situation occurred to a Knight House. They surrendered themselves to the Custodes, and a decade (Or a few years) later their sentence was given. They will join the Custodes and fight the enemy in the Webway. So while the implication that they are doomed even if they surrender, its not entirely certain either. Also another thing to note, the Primaris Captain actually protest that the Brazen Drakes may not actually be traitors, that they should attempt to contact and maybe prove they were framed. This then links to the Shield Captain comment "You Astartes always choose your brothers over the Emperor, you always do" But honestly, with a few extra paragraphs to build up the tension, some more explanation, maybe some insight into each of the character's mind would help deliver this alot better.

@anquiladremon

3 жыл бұрын

i read some people here and they claim the custodes are the smarters that any other but u forget some problem they learn all they know from the emperor and if they are automatans then we can said this at the eye of the custdes will be the way big E will act because they are loyal to him

Finally someone kills some of those abominations created by the infamous heretic robot gorilaman.

@PoorManatee6197

3 жыл бұрын

@Choudhry Ali no, I mean aberrations against the emperor

"Oh look a chapter turned traitor! Let's kill the reinforcements that haven't even made contact with them yet!" The reading was great but this short story was the definition of "you get what you pay for" . TTS custodes are written better than this...

@kompav5621

4 жыл бұрын

@Zoomer Waffen You sound like a Custodes.

@kazmark_gl8652

4 жыл бұрын

The Primaris Captain refused an order from a Custodian Guard he might as well have told Big E himself to stick it.

@inveld2896

4 жыл бұрын

How exactly? The Custodes are stated to be biased when it comes to the Astartes, as they generally hate them. So the Custodes were very strict with how they responded to the Primaris, but still gave them a chance to disarm and stand down. The Primaris then tried to argue, taking the side of his brotherhood over the Emperor. The Primaris were killed for it. Nothing the Custodes did were out of character or poorly written.

@Koppu1doragon

4 жыл бұрын

@@inveld2896 Do you even realize what he meant when he told them to disarm and stand down? He was going to execute them a Custodes was going to waste precious manpower because of actions taken by a group they never even had contact with, the idea of wasting even basic Astartes like that is in itself traitorous let alone the stronger Primaris marines, the direct creation of one of their very emperor's few loyal sons.

@daniell1483

4 жыл бұрын

The whole time I was thinking how foolish this confrontation was. The whole point of their mission was to reinforce this chapter with fresh recruits but at the finishing line, they executed those fresh recruits instead. Good action, terrible plot.

From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. Truth is...the game was rigged from the start.

@ParagonRex

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet Fallout NV ref. my man!

For a group that considers itself intellectuals they sure don’t seem to listen to reason

@a.N.....

3 жыл бұрын

bad author bad

@danesesse

2 жыл бұрын

Haha well, they asked the primaris to surrender... they didn't thats hersey enough.

"You side with your brothers before the emperor, as the adeptus astartes always have." Enough said right there.

through lies or rash actions its always a golden armor figure that forces loyal troops to turn traitor

“Chooseing brothers before the emperor, as all astates do” Sorry what? What about all the loyal marines that was killled on Istvan 3 when Horus “cleaned” his traitor legions??

@chrisspink8873

4 жыл бұрын

Tobias Hald exactly, just reinforces the custodes shear arrogance!

@tylerdunn9683

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisspink8873 well that's to be expected for a bunch of over glorified guard dogs who have done extremely little in over 10,000 years to even help the Imperium current predicament he'll the only time they've ever done anything was during the age of apostasy and that was pretty much it put some life. They are nothing more than useless relics from a bygone age

@thelardmaker6806

4 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdunn9683 The Primaris are super soldier created to be 100% loyal to the emperor without any question and doubt only to follow his orders above all others. They may be loyal to their brothers, they may be even loyal to their Primarchs but above all they must be loyal to the Emperor than any of them. Any orders given by a Custode is equivalent to being given by the Emperor himself They are not a bunch of Guardsmen who have supposed free will to think and question especially towards the Emperor since they are not indoctrinated.

@edenromanov

4 жыл бұрын

Also fuck the emperor once he's done with playing with his toys he'll dispose of them and get new ones, the Thunderwarriors should stand as a warning to the Astartes for their impending future should the corpse emperor ever return.

@Staccet

4 жыл бұрын

@@edenromanov That was the plan more likely. The primarchs and space marines were never meant to be rulers of worlds after the galaxy was unified but for the normal humans as it was the Imperium of Man and not supermen.

"Everybody loves custodes, until the custodes come for you"

This is one of my favorite stories that you've read. You do such a incredible job. Thank you for all the entertaining content you continue to pump out.

And this kids, is why the Dark Angels are right.

@MrAdamske

4 жыл бұрын

sorry noob here, but right about what?

@FREEkdaman

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrAdamske They hide the fact that half the number turned traitor from the rest of the Impirum and kill any who they think may have found out. The traitorous Dark Angels are called The Fallen and a lot of them were sucked into a wormhole, warp-rift thing and get spat out threw out time and space, causing all sorts of problems for the Dark Angels. Much hilarity ensues.

@alexander-er8io

4 жыл бұрын

Hidding that they have some traitors in there army, like this go ham about it and for just reason. Same reason the blood angles hide there black rage. the future is to past to waste time in the grey area

@Watcher-in-the-Dark

4 жыл бұрын

TRUE

@MyGuy18

4 жыл бұрын

100%

Sounds more like the custard boys went south rather than the panini marines

@dr.palsonp.h.d815

4 жыл бұрын

XD

My brother custodian is immaculate in performing his duty. By his will alone.

This is one of the 3 channels that I have notifications turned on for. Once again, superb work!

How dare you colossal mechanical nerd, he does not need proof, he is the emperor's word!

@atomiicchi3f983

4 жыл бұрын

Rufus DaMan when a Custodes tells you to stand down, you stand down. The Primaris probably would’ve been arrested and held until further notice. Once the traitor space marines are dealt with, the Primaris in custody may be sent on a penance crusade or sent to form a new chapter. I’m only guessing but if the Custodes intended on killing them at first the Captain wouldn’t have bothered giving them the chance to surrender. Custodes bear the emperors word, it is as if the emperor is telling the Primaris to surrender then he does not obey the order. Hence they were killed because if they do not obey the word of the emperor then they are by technicality traitors

@braalkmath

4 жыл бұрын

@@atomiicchi3f983 okay.... I was aware of this before your little lesson, but thanks anyway. Blessed is a mind too small for doubt.

@nosignal7156

4 жыл бұрын

I don't even understand why these custards have fans to begin with. Either way they loss of allies is well deserved.

@fumarc4501

4 жыл бұрын

Custodes don’t even have ranks within the Imperium Military! They’re like the Commissars, but without any actual establishment. I’d fight them too! Cowards that hide for 10,000 years don’t get to judge those who’ve been fighting for 10,000 years.

@dinosdaniel3508

4 жыл бұрын

*captain america meme* i understood this reference!

Felt strange to me. Why would you go through such lengths to deliver the new primaris to their destined chapter, when you have no protocol on how to deal with situations like this and how couldn't the primaris know about this? The Custodes himself was referring on the geneseed which in fact is sort of bullshit, since cawls stocks were "fresh" and not from the 41st Millenium. And why would a custodes claim to be the emperor's voice? No, he's not. They follow orders by at least the regent, who is the one to speak with the emperor's voice. That was ...strange.

@inveld2896

4 жыл бұрын

Actually the Custodian are all recognized as the Emperor's voice. They are manifestations of the Emperors will. The Custodian's calmly ordered them to disarm. The Primaris refused. The Primaris effectively just told the Emperor to stick it. The Primaris was killed. Nothing they did was unfair.

@gunsrlove

4 жыл бұрын

All that was needed was for the Marines to surrender, and least of all avoid the conflict or possibly just give time for any conspiracy to be resolved. Previous situations like this in the Imperium have not lead to direct destruction and Chapters have recovered/been sent on redemption crusades. And the Custodian is right, even loyalist astartes are still loyal to each other more so than the Emperor himself. Also, ever since the HH and multiple chapters going rogue or traitor, especially with factions from Terra, if a chapter is traitor/at risk, they have to be dealt with immediately and directly, even if it means resorting to extermination.

@juanfernandez1696

4 жыл бұрын

That's not strange it's just bad writing resulting in a poorly thought out scenario.

@palpadur1112

4 жыл бұрын

like many, that Custodes isn't a fan of the Primaris Marines. he hates them because they exist. just goes to show that even Custodes can be corrupted in a number of ways. Brazen Drakes are better off as Renegades now, and for the best reason imaginable: the Custodes have become Traitors.

@KhoaLe-uc2ny

4 жыл бұрын

@@palpadur1112 what? He followed standard procedure, how is he a traitor?

Custodes shoots the loyal Primaris marines for the suspicion of betraying the Imperium. Primaris Marines are fighting back to this accusations made by the Custodes. Custodes still believe they are traitors. Primaris Marines then becomes traitors because of how they were treated. Custodes: *_You weren't supposed to do that_*

@XHobbiesPrime

4 жыл бұрын

Be executed as a traitor or die fighting. Not much choice. Same choice Magnus and the Thousand Sons had.

@stevetrent4638

4 жыл бұрын

They weren’t shot out of suspicion. They were shot out of lack of compliance.

@riptors9777

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevetrent4638 Compliance to be executed at a later point. Once again: They where allready judged as traitors... diabolus extremis to boot.. there was no scenario in wich the primaris surrendered and lived to serve the emperor another day. That judgement was a death sentence. They where given two chances to put down their arms to prevent any potential losses amongst the custodes forces. We are talking 200 primaris marines spread over the entire fleet, and not all of them have a group of custodes standing right next to them to aprehend them. Fuck some of those primaris might actually manage to take control over a ship or two or even blow them up. THAT is the reason they where told to surrender, NOT to give them a chance but to minimize damage to the fleet

@some_shitposting_idiot3023

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevetrent4638 they were shot because 1 marine made a logical statement. The drakes most likely would have complied had they not been betrayed for being logical

@ianevergood2896

4 жыл бұрын

This. This is why the Emperor and his will, no matter how well intended are tyrannical at the end of the day. The emporer asks everyone to give up their free will or their life.

"The air in the bridge thickened with tension. Captain Gerion stared at Tyvar, *****making no move to obey his instructions*****. "

All I see is a wastage of resources at a time considered as invaluable.Custodes' prideful and prejudiced shortsightedness versus rational and persistent arrogance of the adeptus astartes.Primaris marines were considered as more impervious to corruption compared to first founding astartes,custodes really fucked up here.

@robinderoos1166

4 жыл бұрын

Well, so emperor so custodes... His arrogance and shortsightednes must have rubbed off...

@JoshuaBabasa

4 жыл бұрын

Yes Inquisitor, these comments were what I was talking about.

@maven21

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree though the Primaris. captain was stupid and failed the test. Custodes are the emperor representatives. If he said surrender Just surrender no talk no debate. Captain Titus of ultra marines had to surrender to the inquisitors and he did it eventhough he was innocent. Shield Captain was right. You come in system there is a rebellion going on with a space marine chapter he is old school he knows how bad that can get. His plan makes sense 1. secure the new guys, 2.destroy the old chapter. 3.Let the inquisitors find out if the new guys are traitors or not. The captain could have helped the situation. The had been fighting so you take a break in the brig for a few years. Plead case to people who listen. Not a custodian shield captain putting down a traitor space marine chapter. The new guys may not have been traitors but they were stupid and in 40k that is almost as bad. As they say classic rookie mistake.

@Renigade16

4 жыл бұрын

@@maven21 spoken like a custodes... The Primars was what? Supposed to put his weapons down and let them execute him and his men, tho they did nothing wrong? The Marines was loyal. The Custodians "speak" for the Emperor my ass.

@JSTaylor556

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The real heretic here is the custodes and sisters of silence for destroying the emperor's chosen with absolutely zero provocation. Anyone that stupid and shallow should have lost.

Even an Ork could have handled this matter more delicately than the supposed "Supreme Transhuman Bodyguards."

@edim108

4 жыл бұрын

Mind you, it was the Eldar that literally stormed the Imperial Palace and Orks actually have shown some serious diplomatic genius on more than one occasion...

@randomcenturion7264

4 жыл бұрын

@@edim108 Indeed. I remember on book extract, can't remember which one, where a Guard Colonel and an Ork Warboss had something close to a well mannered parley to fight something else, with the Warboss even going out of his way to speak low Gothic instead of Orky speech and slap a subordinate who interrupted the talks.

@iloveplayingpr

4 жыл бұрын

@@randomcenturion7264 Interesting Story :o

@devilmanscott

4 жыл бұрын

@@randomcenturion7264 That sounds like the Blood axes who have also copied a lot of Imperial tactics and quite willing to deal with humans.

@randomcenturion7264

4 жыл бұрын

@@devilmanscott Yeah, pretty sure that was the Klan. Love the Blood Axes. Evil Sunz are still my favorite because RED GOES FASTA is a real thing, but I do love da Proppa kunnin of Blood Axes.

Well read! I got goosebumps during some of the dialogue. I feel that it’s very in tune with frankly the contempt that the Custodes have historically had. I would think 10k years of solitude as the imperium slide into decay would have only hardened that

Great stuff. I like your thoughts and input on these stories.

It's one thing to speak with the authority of the Emperor when he was "alive" and able to give direction but it's something else to claim to speak for him in his absence. Seems likely that such a stance could easily be abused. Not even the returned primarch can technically order the Custodes to do anything. Given that Heresy has caused the golden ones to have a generally condescending view on the astartes and their progenitors, further division in the Imperium seems inevitable should they oppose the direction of Guilliman's leadership. Let's not also forget that the Custodes are at least partially to blame for the state of the Imperium. How could the Emperor's chosen allow the imperial truth to discarded in favor of religion and the blasphemous deification of the Emperor? The Emperor is surely ashamed of what the ten thousand has allowed through their own complacency.

@kazmark_gl8652

4 жыл бұрын

Probably, but the entire Custodian legion did suffer a deep depression after the Emperors near death.

@HowlFromBeyond

4 жыл бұрын

@@kazmark_gl8652 so did everyone in the Imperium. Hell the Blood Angels lost their primarch and the Emperor nearly simultaneously and got extremely mopey but they at least didn't sequester themselves away for 10k plus years. Point is, they should have been better than that. The Custodes are held in the greatest esteem by the whole of the Imperium and have an equally high opinion of themselves. This is mostly deserved considering their superior geneseed, education, training, and armaments. Yet in spite of that they dropped the ball as badly as any other arm of the Imperium if not worse given their expectations. I understood their aloof and condescending nature during the Great Crusade and Heresy but now it seems particularly galling that they have maintained it with seemingly little to no self reflection.

@fakename2926

4 жыл бұрын

Their duties are singular. Protect the Emperor. Their disdain of others comes from their knowledge that all others, be it Astartes or even Primarch, is corruptible. There are no traitor Custodes, so they alone can be absolutely trusted, at this point. I’m interested in whether or not the Custodes regard the Grey Knights any differently, as they too have been completely incorruptible to this day.

@HowlFromBeyond

4 жыл бұрын

@@fakename2926 well from this story it seems their is a belief that the origin of betrayal is gene deep. I would assume then that the outlook toward Grey Knights would be favorable.

@phoenixrising4573

4 жыл бұрын

They're being written like enochian angels. It's stupid..... and truthfully kind of silly. People gripe about orks being cheesy, but there are these all powerful angels of the emperor flying around smashing chapters....because.

Arguing with the Emperor's proxy is not a survivable mistake.

@jakecarroll9500

4 жыл бұрын

N1njaSnake the marines had a chance to surrender, maybe to argue their case another day, but they didn't take it. To me, the Custodies were in the right. The Primaris had a chance.

@jakecarroll9500

4 жыл бұрын

@John the Skub miner They as in the Primaris or the Custodes?

@timtim6373

4 жыл бұрын

Jake Carroll primaris

@ssd2579

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on who you are and how good you are. We know some skilled marines who would most definitely survive nope-ing a Custodes. One or two who would probably force them to eat their words, shut the hell up and actually think without bias for a limited time hahaha.

@zoltanz288

3 жыл бұрын

@@ssd2579 They would be declared traitors and heretic for fighting Custodes.

The Emperor: WTF are you sentient corncobs doing?!

@randomcenturion7264

3 жыл бұрын

XD

@SuperUniverse

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomcenturion7264 The Emperor Proteccs

Part of me wonders how the Custodes view the Primarchs, given the distain he and the sister of battle seem to have for the Astartes. To my knowledge no Custodes has fallen to chaos but half the Primarchs did.

Ah the custodes the guys that henry cavill plays

@SpanishDio

4 жыл бұрын

@Helios Sphere He should be the emperor , I saw an image of him photoshopped into the emperor¡s armour and looket hella good ngl.

@ferofax

4 жыл бұрын

@@SpanishDio he doesn't look like golden jesus tho, and all artwork we've seen is golden jesus

I'm curious as to how Big Bobby G would react to this whole encounter, especially if the chapter is from the Ultramarines lineage.

@BM-is5ei

4 жыл бұрын

Wait what? They are a smurf successor? That makes this story even more absurd.

@booya2k

4 жыл бұрын

@@BM-is5ei yeah its like 20 space wolves taking on a million orks and winning. GW writing at its finest!

@mcmarkmarkson7115

4 жыл бұрын

Stand down, period. Innocent or not. How do you react when cops come to your house? Shoot them because they wrongly accuse you? And it's 40k time, where astartes are responsible for the downfall of the emperor and his dreams. So the custotes here as super lenient.

@atsukunisumeragi1967

4 жыл бұрын

Given the name they could just as well be Salamanders, a Legion Guilliman hates obviously since like the Wolves they are the great losers of the Codex Astartes.

@atsukunisumeragi1967

4 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Naturalism is held responsable for the fall of Angels in theology (not pride, contrary to some christian claims). As for 40k History, Malcador contemptupusly and publicly humiliating Warmaster Horus, and all but decreting Legiones Astartes and Primarchs easily replacable and unneeded post-conquest, is to be held accountable, certainly not the Adeptus Astartes, in whose place i would consider all Custodes permanently dishonoured in retaliation. Did they conquer or protect the Galaxy ? No. It would be hillarious to see them disowned once the Lion comes back, calls the Roboute for his shit, and orders custody of the Imperial Palace relinquished to the Imperial Fists.

Best part is when he just keeps pushing forward with unyielding dedication and fury that can only be seen through his eyes🤘🤯🤯🤯

GW: Hey, how 'bout new Sisters of Silence lore? Me: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY!!! (throws credit card at the tablet screen)

You do not question the custodes..never...

That's some juicy Grimderp....

@YorktownUSA

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Custodes stands over the dying Traitor, guardian spear ready to finish him. "The heresy you bear ends here." The Greyshield Primaris Captain lifts his head "I die a loyal son, free of corruption and honour intact while you will only ever live in shame of failure." "More heresy before death?" "Your kind failed to safeguard the Emperor in his time of need, no victory or glory you achieve will erase that mark upon you." BOOM! "Heresy..."

@chhyachhrasuwar

4 жыл бұрын

Is this dialogue part of the story?

@thelardmaker6806

4 жыл бұрын

@@chhyachhrasuwar Its not,

@johnlucas2838

3 жыл бұрын

It's not like the Emperor, the Custodes, and the Primarchs teleported onto Horus's ship and were randomly displaced within it? Oh wait they were, the primarchs suffered for it, the custodes suffered for it, and even the emperor suffered for it. When you're basically going all out one man army +1 against multiple chaos infused one man armies you will be hampered a lot. There is also the problem where some of the custodes are still dealing with the demons within the human webway, so not all of them would be able to guard the Emperor at that time, I don't think the Custodes could have been able to overpower or defeat a chaos-infused Horus. Sure, you can say they failed when the Emperor and Horus started to fight. But so did everyone else and you can blame the Astartes' sense of brotherhood for this, loyal to one's brother and primarch before the emperor. Only those who experienced loyalty to the emperor before having a primarch understand what that is, the primarchs whitewashed their legions of this to a degree.

@loristnorton3723

Жыл бұрын

@@johnlucas2838 if sanguinnius didn't fight 80% of the named chaos spawns during horus' seige. He would've destroyed horus or at the very least not succumbed until Big E came knocking. If custodes did their job properly and fought those named demons sanguinnius wouldn't have been spent.

@jellydamgood

11 ай бұрын

​@@johnlucas2838So what? Use the absolutist logic on the custodes like how they are doing with the drakes. Seeing as there's no grey area, and Big E is now confined to his magic wheelchair, they absolutely failed in their one singular task. All the reasons you gave are excuses, and does not deter from the fact that they failed. No custodes were there to take the blows for the emperor during the fight, or bring the fight to Horus. Only Sanguinius and a lone guardsman(retcon pending) was. The arrogance the sister of silence and the custodian shield captain displayed here despite failing their one task is the more astonishing part. They are no longer the sole word of the Emperor besides. Bobby G is back, and Big E made him their boss.

It was a test. By not setting down his weapon he proved his traitorous heart.

Let's see kill the Grey Shields for there "chapter" turning traitor. Or use the Grey Shields to put down the rebellion and from a loyal core of a better chapter. Yeah the first option makes perfect logical sense to me.

@gogos1003

4 жыл бұрын

imagine one of the custodies turning. they would all have to kill themselves.

@USCGJAMESBENETEAU

4 жыл бұрын

@@gogos1003 based on the logic of this story yeah.

@ZiiPBuggsy

4 жыл бұрын

Or more likely send the primaries into the conflict they join up with the other of their legion wank each other off then kill the custards were as if they just obeyed an order they could have lived silly autistic primeass marines

@mcmarkmarkson7115

4 жыл бұрын

@@USCGJAMESBENETEAU The primaris should have stood down, but they didn't proof enough they were traitor. In war if your family turns traitor chances are you won't be trusted either, innocent or not. Do you shoot at the police if they wrongly accuse you? ...No, you go to prison and HOPE to get a decent lawyer. Fighting police because you are innocent would be prove to everyone that you are guilty.

@thebengoblin

4 жыл бұрын

@@gogos1003 Don't forget to kill all custodes recruits

The custodes really do have some of the most great looking models

I just LOVE the passage where the shield captain is literally walking through a hail of bolter fire like it’s a stroll in the rain it just shows the absolute difference between custodes and astartes especially high tier ones like a shield captain they are just monsters

@neildarbyshire7038

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like warp spawned chaos taint to me 😈

@koreyclark5677

Жыл бұрын

@@neildarbyshire7038 wow I made this comment 2 years ago lol what a blast from the past! I actually just re watched the video thanks to you lol Nah stars would blink out of existence before one of the 10,000 fell to chaos my friend 😉

god youve come a long way , i remember when our numbers on here were so low youve grown huge well done sirr!! and was only place i can find out what everyones raving about with the custodes

companions of a master who cant command vs marines who only have their brothers over a master they never meet, dosnt matter who was right or wrong as both shame the emperor with their division for that aids the great enemy only

The Primaries were clearly the ones betrayed here - sure it might have been smarter to accept the 'surrender', depending on the potential punishment, but that does not change the fact that the initial judgement was baseless, given the details of the Primaris marines genetic design. The Custodes' actions are black/white, and they are defensible on that basis. Whether the Imperium is in a position to afford such behaviour is another matter.

@tylerdunn9683

4 жыл бұрын

@Rory 543 well what would you expect from a bunch of arrogant over glorified guard dogs when you really think of the adeptus custodes are completely and utterly useless they've done very very little to even help the Imperium for the past ten thousand years they are a relic of a bygone age

@illusivec

4 жыл бұрын

Custodes captain didn't say they'd be executed. It's possible they'd just hold them in custody until the situation on the planet could be figured out. No matter the circumstances, Astartes shouldn't start shooting at Custodes. That's like me shooting at the cops because they asked me to pull to the side.

@rantymcrant-pants9536

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, though, let's be fair, while the grey areas exist in 40k, they mostly get you killed so purge first question never is potentially the most viable survival tactic.

@tylerdunn9683

4 жыл бұрын

@@illusivec your point is completely and utterly irrelevant text stories with executed them anyway the chapter they were bringing them to to reinforce I'm discovering some of them at turn Renegade as far as the custodians for concerned they were all traitors regardless if they were still loyal or not the custodians have this in common with Konrad curze were they see everything entirely in black and white but that's to be expected from a bunch of over glorify guard dogs we haven't done virtually anything 10,000 years other than sit on their ass

@lord2529

4 жыл бұрын

@@illusivec Did you read or listen to the story? They were marked "hereticus diabolicus", and told to disarm in an accusing tone. Following that train of thought, what is to say they won't just be shot after they have all the primaris rounded up?

I would be interested to see Guillimans response to that report.

@the_guitarcade

Жыл бұрын

The report: The Brazen Drakes were traitors to the Imperium. They were summarily executed. Friendly casualties: 0. Robot Girlie-man: Good work, as usual. The Emperor neglects.

@RhantheSlayer

Жыл бұрын

Guilliman: They did WAT?!

Bahahaha. I like these stories. *This gets the Malice stamp of approval.*

We got a follow up interview from the rememberancers with the Shield Captain. "So we're here with the Shield Captain who faced a harrowing story the other day aboard the bridge of a strike cruiser" "Yeah so this chapter the other day decided to turn heretical, and these Primaris were looking at me, I didn't know if they wanted to offer my skull to a blood god, or do something more.... Slanneshi.... but I'm a Custodes, I always have my pieces...." "Your pieces?" "my guns...So anyways I pull out my Guardian Spear and started blasting...."

ahh the caretakers of the golden toilet or the goblin throne

You made me like this story. Lol, they need to hire you man. Awesome. Thank you!!!

i have always favoured the Imperium but after hearing this, I feel an odd feeling, a feeling I've never felt before, a feeling of betrayal

@eisberg5956

3 жыл бұрын

It's called heresy, my friend

@BaldPolishBiotechnol

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Lord inquisitor, that one over there! Emperor Profects! *Hydra Dominatus*

@richter6699

Жыл бұрын

Moments like these are kind of good to have because they prove that the heretics do have a point. The Imperium cares nothing for you and will kill any innocent man they like. If the Imperium was fair and logical then the villains would just be mustache twirling caricatures.

This is stupid. I thought the Custodes were scholars as well. What kind of sane person would make an innocent person accept guilt for a crime he never did. This is some stupid writing.

@AcerbusFive

4 жыл бұрын

This was horribly written.

@illusivec

4 жыл бұрын

Custodes didn't pass judgement. If they had decided the primaris' couldn't be save, they'd have been already dead before they met the custodes. Granted, shooting the second primaris' just because he spoke is kinda harsh, but they are speaking to Custodes. The emperor's own bodyguards. Maybe he shouldn't have backtalked.

@UlrichVerwey

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Were this the Andy Chambers era this kind of shit wouldn't happen.

@ryanwilliams1207

4 жыл бұрын

Actually it makes perfect sense for the custodes to act like this. Ever sense the emperor was entombed on the golden throne custodes held a certain disdain for the astartes. We see in later books that custodes at best tolerate their presence and at worst do what you see here. The shield captain made a good point here. The space marines should have surrendered first and waited to give their explanations. Instead they put their fellow astartes first. Something that would be impossible for the custodes to even consider since the emperor always comes first.

@kwazooplayingguardsman5615

4 жыл бұрын

By refusing the surrender order, it confirmed a long held suspicion by the custodes that the adeptus astartes could not fully give themselves to the emperor as they harbor loyalty to their brothers. And given how the custodes believe that the horus heresy was the fault of the primarchs and their astartes legions, would react with impunity.

If this is how innocent marines are treated, I wonder how Fulgrims clone will be viewed if he ever tried to come back into the fold.

@Leivve

4 жыл бұрын

Fulgrim wouldn't need to convince a shield captain (though he likely could being a primarch) he would have to convince Papa Smurf

@mcmarkmarkson7115

4 жыл бұрын

How would hitler be treated if a clone of him came back somehow? Innocent people don't shoot the police because they are wrongly accused, why do people here have such a hard time with this? Even in our own peaceful time, of logic and reason. Education and power of the law. Don't comply with the order of the police to take you in (for whatever reason) and you are a criminal, period.

@Leivve

4 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 The police IRL don't shoot and kill a suspect simply for trying to point out a police officer is overstepping his bounds.

@TheMauviet

4 жыл бұрын

@@Leivve depend of the country.

@atsukunisumeragi1967

4 жыл бұрын

Guilliman came back to Terra with Eldar xenos and traitor Fallen Angels in toe, but the hypocrites immediately bent over GW's marketing will, just like how they had betrayed Rogal for the Roboute, they betrayed the High Lords and immediately gave themselves to him. Just a reminder, everything will depend of how badly they need him or Yvraine wanting a Threesome with someone less dreadful than the Lion.

9:50 every loyal legion who fought tooth and nail to protect the imperium for ten millenia: are we a fucking joke to you?

@randomcenturion7264

4 жыл бұрын

Stupid lazy golden jerks. The Astartes have been fighting to protect this Imperium for 10K years while those layabouts sat in the Palace playfighting with their Blood Games.

I've watched this video a few times now it is so cool plus I went and got the pdf for it and it really is a good read

The dawn has come. Thank you for the upload, honourable Wolf Lord.

More seriously, it's here we see that for all the superiority to the Human baseline, and even the Astartes (Primaris included), the Custodes are still humans, and thus flawed (just like the Primarch were/are). His contempt and hatred for the Astartes is obvious, and it means he wastes two hundreds lives, at the very least, which could have been used alsewhere to fight for the Emperor, had he tried to deal with the situation in a less biaised way. I doubt those Primaris managed to save their lives, but sooner or later, one group will have managed to. And imagine the hatred they now have of the Imperium. it's not even that their Chapter turned traitors, they remained faithful but were judged traitors nonetheless. it's that those Primaris are not even real members of their Chapter. They are still Greyshields, waiting to join their older Brothers, who could despise them for being different. And the Custodes slaughter them, because Brothers who have other customs, beliefs and history than them, have betrayed the Imperium - apparently, we all know how corrupt the Inquisition can be.

@Kareszkoma

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing goes unnoticed. Tzeench will wanna corrupt someone, he just shows a video of this event. GG Custode. You started a rebellion. Honestly this is so hilariously bad that I feel more of a writting problem here.

@insiainutorrt259

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kareszkoma Couldnt agree more this is just atrocious writing in so many ways.... And im seeing more and more of this in 40k .... bit depressing

@zoltanz288

3 жыл бұрын

Despite his contempt the Custodes gave them chances to surrender. If he just wanted them dead so much why would he bother with that?

@Kurogane335

3 жыл бұрын

@@zoltanz288 I didn’t read it as an offer for surrender and then fair examination of their case. I can be wrong of course but to me it was more sureender so executions can be had quickly

As an American from the states.. I love your voice my dude! Best narrator for 40k

Thanks for this, all the recent memes make sense now 😂👌

The custodes besting the Astartes is a given. However, I find it hard to believe that a Silent Sister could do the same.

@bizarreworld2510

4 жыл бұрын

She was moving in the cover of the Custodian's attacks

@Blade40688

4 жыл бұрын

I guess having a presence so unnerving that you can disrupt the focus of a Marine would give one the edge in terms of combat, not to mention they all had to keep an eye on the Shield captain or proceed to have their transhuman prostate examine via surprise guardian spear

@empireempire3545

4 жыл бұрын

From the statlines in the actual game, astartes are not THAT much better than a normal human. ONE point here and there, something like 15% more chance to hit or wound or resist a wound. 15%. The black library books are just imperial propaganda :P

@bddb9239

4 жыл бұрын

@@empireempire3545, the specialist game inquisitor gave a much better insight to some of the differences between a human and a space marine. In that, a normal human had a strength and toughness averaging 50 (of 100) whereas a space marine had a toughness of around 100 and strength around 140 (and then power armour gave a further 20% boost to those stats.)

@jimmyprince6172

4 жыл бұрын

I could see it, if she Aeldari-ed him, for a lack of a better term. Say the captain didn't have a fucking whole in him, and was closer focused, he could of totally choke slammed her into Oblivion.

Who else feels the cutodes are the imperial version of the school bully who does whatever he wants because his father is the principal? 🙄

@trentberry6968

4 жыл бұрын

That sounds a lot like heresy.

@patarryan7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@trentberry6968 considering Magnus did nothing wrong I would say you are correct sir.

@DT-267K

4 жыл бұрын

@@patarryan7855 The Custodes and Sisters of Silence were on orders of the Emperor to accompany the Space Wolves, who were ordered by the Emperor to bring Magnus to him. When the Space Wolves went into battle with Magnus and his sons instead, if only on the counter-order of Horus to kill instead of capture/apprehend/bring Magnus to Terra, so did they.

@Venneroth

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, the bully is human. Custodes aren't. They would quite happily blow their own brains out for the Emperor and they're confused as to why everyone else isn't the same.

@UncleAsmos2005

4 жыл бұрын

@John the Skub miner _Lamenters_

Once again well done Rho From me its sad to see the type of thing happen. In the current lore the Imperium needs all the help it can get and it really makes me wonder what the Emperor would of done or even a loyal Primarch. Anyway hope you are doing well in this whole Covid thing, stay safe

Great vid man.

GW put as much effort and intelligence into this story as I spent to read it: NOTHING

I never pictured the Custodes as being so mindless.

@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221

4 жыл бұрын

That's because this story was tailor made to put the Custodes in a terrible light is all.

@00yiggdrasill00

4 жыл бұрын

Its honestly very clear the shield captain has a hatred for the astartes and let that blind him. Its all so very human no matter how mechanically and biologically enhanced they are.

Kitten: I wish this wasn't fucking CANON...but NOPE!

@randomcenturion7264

4 жыл бұрын

Kitten, I really hope your mission on Mars ends soon. Your brothers have gotten a little too...trigger happy without your guidance.

The Emperor's head bounced back and forth from His greatest facepalming as of yet.

@christophersmith8848

3 жыл бұрын

"The brightness of the Astronomicon briefly doubled as it's energy increased substantially, this is believed to be cause by the Emperor's sudden rolling in his grave."

Keep up the good work Rho👍

The only ones that hold no fault here are the sisters of silence. They only attacked once the marines actually turned. The custodes shouldn't have made enemies of the primaris, essically ones they had fought amongst for 200 years, the the marines should've dropped their guns like they were told. Most traitors aren't even told once. These guys got told twice. Personally, i think the shield captain wanted to kill them easier. The way that he talks about the marines throughout the story, especially the way he talks about treachery being in their Geneseed. That said... It's my understanding that cawl used geneseed taken from the primachs themselves, rather then the genevaults on Mars. So unless the custody thinks that the primarchs are traitors this makes zero sense. It's possible that he wanted to just figure out what the fuck was going on and just didn't wanna risk the chance of guns being pointed at him, but like i said prior he seems to have a problem with marines. Even though it's more then likely he fought along side the imperial fist, white scars, or blood angels turning the siege. As far as he is concerned, the blazen drakes are either made from loyalist stock (the purity of which is tested on Mars for this exactly this.), or made from loyalist primach geneseed. Calling these men traitors is foolish at best because of its baselessness. The custodes are supposed to be wiser and more logical then your common commissar.

@epicwolf6486

4 жыл бұрын

With respect, I disagree. Notice how the argument plays out. The marine says, this must be a mistake, we need proof. Proof literally flashes in everyone's eyes. The marine says, stop accusing us. The custodes wasn't accusing him. The shield captain essentially said, stand aside, let me kill known traitors, then we'll give you a chance to prove your innocence. Like a cop, said for your safety and mine, I have to detain you so you don't try to do anything stupid.

@Nyghtking

4 жыл бұрын

@@epicwolf6486 Someone pointed out in another comment that their first reaction was to defend their brothers even though they had never met them, when what they should have done was put down their guns as a show of loyalty, stating that as true loyalists of their brothers had in fact turn traitor they weren't really their brothers.

@epicwolf6486

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nyghtking they kind of weren't. They were primaris, which according to my memory, means that astartes went through the procedure, then were told that they were to bolster a specific chapter's numbers. Someone else pointed out that the custodes didn't want to kill the marines anyway. The order from the Inquisition said to kill all of them. ALL. No exceptions. Knowing better, the shield captain decided to do things more intelligently, as custodes do.

@thelardmaker6806

4 жыл бұрын

The Primaris are super soldier created to be 100% loyal to the emperor without any question and doubt only to follow his orders above all others. They may be loyal to their brothers, they may be even loyal to their Primarchs but above all they must be loyal to the Emperor than any of them. Any orders given by a Custode is equivalent to being given by the Emperor himself They are not a bunch of Guardsmen who have supposed free will to think and question especially towards the Emperor since they are not indoctrinated.

@LouisKing995

2 жыл бұрын

@@epicwolf6486 This just shows that although the custodies can’t be “corrupted” (because they are so Uber mega fucking awesome reeeeeeeeee…) they can be manipulated. It would not surprise me one bit if this whole thing was engineered by Chaos (the “fall” of some of drakes) because they knew it would likely end in the custodes needlessly killing a fresh batch of the Imperiums newest space marines. Fucking golden morons.

No one picked out how these golden boys have enough pride to make ol' Tzeetch blush.

Please, more of both!

The more one claims to act on behalf of the Emperor, the more they are actually only acting for themselves in practice. And this even if they are too blinded by self-righteousness to realise it. Hope they won't be MattWarding the golden basement dwellers too.

@TheCreepyLantern

4 жыл бұрын

it's amazing how "The Emperors word" ALWAYS lines up perfectly with what the person saying it wants to happen....

@EchoMirage72

4 жыл бұрын

Much like religious people today.

@anquiladremon

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCreepyLantern to be fair big E will not even try to hear any word of those primaris he will just clap her ass to the warp remeber that time he orden to guliman to destroy a church about him? instead of use their "unquestiable charisma" and "not-god powers" he order to gulli to bombard that thing also he vote in favor againts magnus despite he is fuking psyker the golden boys act like machines they have pure logic but dont forget they learn all they know from the emperor and the history has prove he is a very hipocrital man/god/psiker

@TheCreepyLantern

3 жыл бұрын

@@anquiladremon an excellent point. "ehhh let's only save Angron and not the men and women he loves like family... MY GOODNESS WHY HAS HE BETRAYEDTHE IMPERIUM"

It was so weird. It's not even made clear what the marines are accused of, and they don't even get a chance to defend themselves. The custodians seem to act like blithering idiots, executing loyalist marines for no reason.

@Tacoguy1000

4 жыл бұрын

Just like the inquisition.

@Greatkingrat88

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tacoguy1000 I honestly feel like there are more than a few inquisitors who would show the emperor's finest more courtesy than this.

@LotionSoronarr

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Some 40K stories are written by retards.

@BM-is5ei

4 жыл бұрын

@@LotionSoronarr absolutely!

@solemnreign7574

4 жыл бұрын

Aw poor babies! Xenos get killed by OP plot armored space marines and you beat off to it. Primaris traitors get rightfully cut down and it is suddenly retarded stories. Such delicious tears!

Dude I was fking yelling at my screen listening to this! I love both of them and now they are killing each other!?!?!

Caul is thinking: hmm, what if we could make Primaris Custodes? GW's replying: sounds...lucartive.

This is pretty cool story, shows that the imperium even during the new age of Guiliman. The imperium is still not the best choice. The Custodies are just sewing the seeds to another civil war.

@tylerdunn9683

4 жыл бұрын

The adeptus custodes are a useless Relic from a bygone age they have done literally nothing for 10,000 years other than sit on their asses and twiddle their thumbs

@bryanbarcelo5440

4 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdunn9683 you're forgetting that time a massive fucking warp rift opened up on terra, and the custodes and sisters of silence had to deal with it

@killerflamingo9566

4 жыл бұрын

@@bryanbarcelo5440 still dealing with it

@killerflamingo9566

4 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdunn9683 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

@tylerdunn9683

4 жыл бұрын

@@bryanbarcelo5440 their deeds during the heresy are completely and utterly irrelevant in modern 40K they've done virtually very little to actually help the Imperium

If a custodes says to do something, the Emperor says it. To question the Emperor is heresy

@Rohadjakmeg1

4 жыл бұрын

They have the emperor's right but not the wisdom

@SuperDominic4

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rohadjakmeg1 they're his bodyguards, they helped unify mankind before the Great Crusade. If Marines act in a way that would mean that Heresy could happen again then it's better to kill the source of the threat than to try and treat a whole infected body

@intimidatingicosahedron5083

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuperDominic4 the problem is that these were pretty much blank space marines. It wouldnt do much of a difference if you send them to a different chapter of a simmilar lineage.

@HammarPwnsYourFace

4 жыл бұрын

Custodians are body guards and house servants. Not fucking imperial regents. Rowboat is the regent. They need to stay at their station and stfu. Big E has not spoken to them in 10k years. Yet he speaks to rowboat. Straight away.... makes one wonder...

@illusivec

4 жыл бұрын

@@HammarPwnsYourFace How do you know that the Big E hasn't spoken with Custodes in 10k years?

I feel like all you need to do to not die to custodes is throw down your weapon and say something along the lines of “whatever the emperor wills, let it be done”. Or atleast have a chance

Primaris Marines: *exist* Custodes: We don’t take kindly to Primaris in these here parts...