Takeout Talk: Flow vs Gnar | Whitewater Kayaking

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Initial thoughts on the new Jackson Kayak Flow, and how it compares to the Gnarvana. Opinions provided by Pat Corcoran (@project_patt) and Derek Smith (@smitty_dees), plus a quick comparison to a 2014 Zen, courtesy of Paul Meier (@supnw). I paddled the Flow right after this, and will share my review soon. Shoutout to Mitch and Next Adventure for the demo. Thanks for watching!
LINKS
Flow Review (mine) • Jackson Kayak Flow Rev...
Jackson Kayak Flow jacksonkayak.com/jackson-kaya...
Jackson Kayak Gnarvana jacksonkayak.com/jackson-kaya...
TIMESTAMPS
Pat 0:00
Derek 3:01
Hull Comparison 6:06
Flow Weight 7:00
Zen Comparison 7:21
Outro (specs) 8:02

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  • @kevinhill.8
    @kevinhill.810 ай бұрын

    Initial thoughts on the new Jackson Kayak Flow, and how it compares to the Gnarvana. Opinions provided by Pat Corcoran (@project_patt) and Derek Smith (@smitty_dees), plus a quick comparison to a 2014 Zen, courtesy of Paul Meier (@supnw). I paddled the Flow right after this, and will share my review soon. Shoutout to Mitch and Next Adventure for the demo. Thanks for watching! LINKS Flow Review (mine) kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2eAz7puiam-fso.html Jackson Kayak Flow jacksonkayak.com/jackson-kayak-flow/ Jackson Kayak Gnarvana jacksonkayak.com/jackson-kayak-gnarvana/ TIMESTAMPS Pat 0:00 Derek 3:01 Hull Comparison 6:06 Flow Weight 7:00 Zen Comparison 7:21 Outro (specs) 8:02

  • @rudedogfpv
    @rudedogfpv10 ай бұрын

    You guys Rock. & Role great review 4 sure very 😎

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    Thx rudedog! 🙏

  • @user-kj4xw8si2p
    @user-kj4xw8si2p10 ай бұрын

    I am waiting your review😊 I have also small Gner. Small Gner and medium FLOW looks so similer😮

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    Review coming soon! I wish I had taken my S Gnar with me the day I filmed this so we could have seen the S Gnar next to the M Flow; you are right about spec being very close btwn the two.

  • @dolkon6117
    @dolkon611710 ай бұрын

    Oh snap and smitty diddy!

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    All the heavy hitters 😎

  • @macfawlty
    @macfawlty10 ай бұрын

    More love for the Flow. Curious how the paddling compares to the Antix 2 and what factors would you consider in deciding which of the two to paddle.

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    Very good question, and one that was very important for me to consider when paddling the Flow since I often paddle my Antix 2 M on relatively hard runs (I’m at bottom of weight range, so it’s pretty forgiving for me). I told a buddy after my lap in the Flow that I felt is was like a 60/40 Gnar/Antix mix. It kind of falls between the two in a lot of areas (bow rocker, knee position, length, width, etc). I really like it, but I think I would only get a Flow if I sold both my Antix and my Gnar. I’m hesitant to do that though bc I kind of like having the Antix and Gnar for different creeking applications.

  • @CleanLineKayaking

    @CleanLineKayaking

    10 ай бұрын

    Antix 2 if you want to stern squirt and slice your way down the river and have the option to do more freestyle... Flow if you want to river run, surf a bit, and creek or run big water... to slice or not to slice, the only question necessary for deciding between the two 🤙

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    @@CleanLineKayaking I agree almost completely. For 98% of ppl, what you said is probably true. Want to slice and play, go Antix; want to river run and creek (but don’t want a Gnar), go Flow. However for a small minority, myself included, we use the Antix like a mini Steeze, a slicey creek boat, rather than as a true/playful half slice. If I paddle my wife’s S Antix2, it’s playful, but in my M Antix2 it’s def not. In fact I don’t even bother trying to tailee it any more. I’m sure this is in part due to my lack of skill in that area, but I can get the tail down in my S Ripper2, S Firecracker, and S Ozone, so it’s def not all on me. And I’m not the only one who likes using the Antix like this. I recently met a guy who was in a M who told me he loved it so much he was buying a L to use as his shit runner/Little White boat.

  • @CleanLineKayaking

    @CleanLineKayaking

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kevinhill.8 totally get it… I’ve done the same thing and other team members have kept two Antixes around for the same purpose. For us, the Flow replaces the need for that completely. Curious what you find for yourself 🤙🏻

  • @shaun5893

    @shaun5893

    10 ай бұрын

    @@CleanLineKayaking IMO, the ultimate 2 boat quiver is an Antix that is on the small side & a properly sized Gnar. I think the Flow as more of a do-it-all in one boat option that won't river run or play as well as an Antix & won't be as bomber in the true stouts as a Gnar. Also, I've found the Gnar to paddle much "smaller" than it is. It's a very responsive and fun boat in all kinds of water.

  • @joshuacrossman8826
    @joshuacrossman882610 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this. Any thoughts on the flow vs the waka stoke?

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    I asked Derek, since he’s been in the Stoke for a little while now, and here’s what he said: “They are pretty different boats, they both like to stay on top of features, the stoke is def faster because of its water line. Both are good at carving, flow is probably easier to lift the bow but it’s a lot smaller with a smaller stern so that makes sense.”

  • @joshuacrossman8826

    @joshuacrossman8826

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks very much@@kevinhill.8

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    @@joshuacrossman8826 you bet. Thx for watching, and good luck w your decision!

  • @dolkon6117
    @dolkon611710 ай бұрын

    Patty daddy!

  • @kevinhill.8

    @kevinhill.8

    10 ай бұрын

    He’s helping me up my Takeout Talk game w a little expertise opinionation! 🤩

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