Thank you! The detail you are getting into on your reviews is excellent.

@DownstreamV

2 ай бұрын

Thanks !

I think your review is the most refreshingly honest non-hyped, non BS review I have found. So many are "this is the best perfect agile boat ever", and I'm really tired of them. I cannot test a boat out. So thanks. Question: With all my gear I weigh about 190lbs, so I am thinking I'll need a large. I've come from a Zen 2 Medium, and it started to feel like the bow was too big and sometimes not loose enough surfing a hole. (BTW I'm not an expert paddler, staying with II and sometimes III.) How would paddling a medium at the upper edge of the weight range affect things? Much appreciated. Stefan Australia

@DownstreamV

19 күн бұрын

Appreciate the kind words there. Regarding your question that’s tough for me to answer being at my weight. I can’t find specs on the old zen but it seems it’s about 79 galls and the flow is 77. It is a great surfing creek boat as it has a playboating hull on it. I would say you’re right on the edge of medium and needing a large. I honestly can’t say which one to go for. I would reach out to Wade Harrison as he is about 180. If he felt good in medium go for the smaller boat as your not paddling anything crazy anyway.

I like my Antix 2 medium and I’m very interested in this boat, considering it as a replacement for my Alpha 75. I’m 175 lbs. naked and the fact that you prefer small boats and consider this a smedium, not so sure. Glad to hear how much you and Wade like the Flow.

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

Always worth giving it a demo. If you’re not paddling huge stuff I think you would be fine with the weight.

Thanks for the review. If it’s on the smaller side in the medium then I’ll have to wait for the large at 210lbs.

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

Yes I would absolutely wait for the large at that weight.

Even as a Jackson Hater this boat has my excited

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

Same 😅

Hi Matt. Is the Flow in the same category, sort of playfull creeker, as the Indira or Reactr, or are they vastly different? I've always gone for Jackson boats but the Pyrahna and Dagger have me wondering what would be a good boat to grow with progression wise as a intermediate still getting to grips with G3?

@DownstreamV

2 ай бұрын

I would not say the same category but they arent vastly different either. The flow is sporty because it is short mostly. It actual "feels" wider because the width stays through the bow where the indra narrows out. The Indra is more capable on class 5+ than the flow just due to the length and size. For what you are paddling the flow is more than capable but the indra and reactr would work also. I would always take a boat with a more usable stern than one without for my personal preferance.

@davidegan3650

2 ай бұрын

@@DownstreamV Thanks for taking the time to respond Matt. Appreciate it.

I'm set on getting a Flow soon but torn between what size... I'm 5'10" and I hover around 145-150 lbs. I'm smack in the middle of the weight range for either boat really but I don't wanna feel too big in it or lose the sportiness I keep hearing about, having to muscle it around. I just sold a Mamba 7.6 that I loved and was in a Z3 Medium for my first boat and I felt a bit small in that boat... any guidance or help is appreciated! I'm in AR where we don't have the luxury of demoing, at least not often unfortunately

@DownstreamV

25 күн бұрын

Z3 medium is huge. I usually paddle small size boats and the medium flow fits the bill as a perfect small/medium. I would definitely get a medium if you are wanting to paddle some harder whitewater. It would feel small compared to a medium zen3 for sure.

@aarontorian

25 күн бұрын

@@DownstreamV thanks for the quick reply!! I'll heed your advice and roll with the M. Thanks again!!

Where is this WW park? I didn't catch that... Looks pretty sweet!

@DownstreamV

3 ай бұрын

Charlotte nc

Any idea what the volume will be for the large?

@DownstreamV

4 ай бұрын

No clue if I had to guess I’d say around 85-90. It’s a smaller boat so I would expect it to be lower than a usual large. That’s a total guess though.

How would you compare this with a LL RMX 76?

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

Both are great designs. Unfortunately LL plastic and outfitting is bottom of the barrel so I would choose the flow. I had to warranty a 76 after one use. The rmx is a bit narrower in the bow though but they paddle fairly similar I would say.

@onemoreokie

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate your thoughts

I’m not to sure on this flow but I would like to try a gnarvana

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

Gnarvana is at the bottom of my list of pretty much all creek boats. But that’s just my opinion.

@Cade_Burkhardt

7 ай бұрын

@@DownstreamV I paddled a stoke on the ocoee a little while back I loved it but there just hard to find and I don’t really have new waka money lol

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

@@Cade_Burkhardtyea stoke was solid. Hit up highwater hobbies maybe Don can give you a good price!

@Cade_Burkhardt

7 ай бұрын

@@DownstreamV alright!

Give it more volume. The length is fine for micro creeks. And do not start the stern rocker so far up under the seat, and you will be fine.

@DownstreamV

28 күн бұрын

That’s why they have the gnarvana. This boat is super capable anywhere!

Looks like an Alpha 75 with a flat bottom and wider bow

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

Alpha is a a displacement hull this is a full planing hull so they maneuver and operate very differently.

@Gnarltones

7 ай бұрын

yup snappier but still looks like an Apha from the profile ... and fish don't have edges 😀@@DownstreamV

Pretty sure that seat was set one notch forward, not back.

@DownstreamV

7 ай бұрын

Correct I actually changed it right after. Didn’t catch that editing. Thanks.