Table Saw Jointer Jig / Router Jointer Jig - How to Joint Wood Without a Jointer
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In this video, I show you how to joint wood WITHOUT a wood edge jointer. We'll be using both a table saw sled as a table saw jointer jig and a router free hand with a router jointer jig.
Jointing wood is another term for edging wood to make it straight and flat for gluing and other preparations in woodworking when you do not have a dedicated Wood Jointer for edging you can also use wood router bits or a table saw with a special Trimming Jig to get those perfect edges.
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Hand planning really discouraged me from being a wood worker when i was in my teens, which i had someone available back then to show me how to do it the right way I would plane a board for hours and them have to start all over with a new board because i took it down too far. I soon got discouraged with shop in grade nine and quit it completely to pursue academic. Now that I am a senior I have an renewed interest in woodworking, and find it all very interesting . Only problem is that I now have nothing to build
thank you so much it really helps. From Fiji.
I love watching this guy and picking up the tips he has from his vast experience.
A lot of great tips here for people who build smaller projects in a smaller space. I can totally get why devout woodworkers would want a dedicated jointer. But for people like me, who don't have the space nor the inclination to build an extensive home woodshop these are great alternatives.
Among woodworking videos, yours maybe the most clear explanation, very useful to a beginner like me. Thank you. 👍👍
First time I have ever tried using a router. Needed to edge a splashback. Superb tip to use a roller bit and second strip of timber. Thanks.
Great advice Colin! Thanks.
I like how you seemed pleasantly surprised with how precise they were with the little laugh.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I don't have either the space or money for a jointer and have been really frustrated trying to make my projects flush, and thanks to you I can finally improve my work
Great stuff as always Colin. BTW I like that you have stepped up your production values but kept the style that I hope all other emulate. Now then, top tuner tip: get full spectrum lighting, over head and 20% down from the top of the wall your facing.
Always love you r stuff, great tips for making things easy!
Great video, I’m just starting my woodworking journey and this is going to be a huge help!
@smokeythebear5414
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly he’s by far one of the best when it comes to tricks, he’s taught me so much!! When I think about all the knowledge I’ve gained through him and other youtubers, it’s INSANE . Going to a school who have cost me thousands. Thank god for Colin 🤘🏼
Thank you Mr. Colin
Thanks for the great informative videos. Tried out the router jig as you detail in this video. I edge jointed some 1 1/4” hardwood boards. Turned out perfect.
Thank you so much for another excellent video Colin!
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
There’s always something i can learn from ur video, sir.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@Fhayaka
6 жыл бұрын
WoodWorkWeb no sir. Thank you for sharing knowledge. i learn so much from ur video. Thank u.
Great video. I'm new to woodworking and I loved how you set up a jig in order to use your router! Thanks for the videos! BE SAFE,GOD BLESS!🇺🇸🙏❤
Thanks Colin.
Love this video. My tablesaw makes me nervous sometimes.
Thanks Colin for another great video. I really appreciate all the useful tips you share with us.
@knecht105
5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video. I've watched many jointing videos, but i am yet to find a video that shows me hoe to joint the two face side of the board without a jointer nor a planer.
I really like the tapering jig. A billion years ago I purchased a store bought one from Harbor Freight and ended up chopping a piece of it off (me error). Thanks for the vid.
I have a table saw jig for doing small stock ,but this one I could adapt to my needs and it looks so much better ! Great video Colin . Cheers Bram
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Bram! Thanks for watching once again.
Very nice video again, Colin. Do you think turning the tablesaw jig into a proper sled riding in your mitre slot would work as well? With the Incra clamping in the t-tracks you should not need your fence. On top of that you would have a zero clearance cut on the side you want to keep. For the second cut you could align your incra clamps with the fence using spacers to get them parallel.. 🤔
Thanks Colin - another informative video, and as you say not everyone has a jointer - so to see your technique you have educated me. Thank you
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome, David!
Hi Colin. I love your channel. I'm new to woodworking (starting to make my own guitars) and I'm learning a lot. So thanks for all the very useful demonstrations. I have a router and I'd like to use that to joint some pieces I have. When you jointed with the router and clamps, how did you know that both sides of the board were parallel? Is there a step I'm missing? Thanks Christian
I like the route method, is my best reason for buy one.
Excellent video. I was stuck and didn’t have the money to buy a jointer right away. This will allow me to proceed with my project. Thank you so much.
@knecht105
5 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
Good stuff as always mate. Thanks for sharing.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Colin should call this channel why didn't i think of that Awesome tips again thanks Colin
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Clint's! Thanks for watching.
Thanks so much Colin for a good in-depth video. I like the 2 different options and what about that jig you made! I’m always amazed when I watch your videos as to how much I can learn from your knowledge. Thanks so,much for sharing and teaching me (us) some of your knowledge.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome, Becky!
Very handy Colin :) Thank you
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome!
Excellent video, thank you very much, there's no way I can afford or fit a jointer into my space, but i now know my router can do the trick:)
Excellent video. Great tips thank you for sharing.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much for the info! I had a question. Could I use a piece of 1 in. x 8 in. x 8 ft. MDF Moulding Board for the router bit guide? I was thinking that if I get a longer piece of MDF, I would have the extra length to keep the whole work piece in alignment if I needed it for future projects.
Just have to say I love your videos.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
Excellent video Colin thanks...
@knecht105
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for informative video! I am gonna attempt to make the table saw sled jig from the other video. However, I dont have a jointer to make sure 1 side of MDF is straight initially. Would factory cut of MDF from local Home depot be straight enough for the jig?
I like your Planer Jig and this one. Being frugal with space and money, I plan to make one dual purpose jig. When using it as a table saw Jointer Jig, I will remove the cleat/stop block for the Planer Jig. We'll see.
Thanks, Colin.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome!
what a wonderful trick ! thanks
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome!
Another excellent video :)
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
Yes! Nice!
Nice job Colin. Just making another one of these as I've been out of wwing for a bit. I was about to make mine almost exactly like yours. Do you or does anyone else know why others often build this jig with an elevated piece on one side? It's not like the board to be "planed" needs to rest against a straight edge or anything? Any ideas?
Colin, Im amazed at all the subjects you present. With all your videos, how do you find time to run video productions and do your own projects. Thanks. Steve
thank you for the video! Is it common to have a flush bit w a blade long enough to edge joint 1.5" lumber that has a 1/4 shank? Would really appreciate your response!
I want to try this with 2x4s, but my flush trim bit has a 1” cutting length. If I use a rabbet bit to create something that looks like your setup at 6:12 would that work? Would it be safe?
Hi I'm sure everyone except me knows the answer to this question , why do we need to use the straight edge jig / clamping jig on a table saw to get straight edge and not just using the fence ? fence is completely straight , but the board not in both edges, if there are some points that board touch the fence it should be good , not ? what am I missing here ?
Nice.
Hi! I don't have a table saw. Is there a way to cut thin strips of wood (1/4" to make little drawers, for instance) with a circular saw in a secure way? Do you have a video of that? Thank you in advance. :)
I think your videos are great, but watching this video and looking at the comments it seems I'm not the first one to think that I’m overlooking something when I don’t understand why you need the ‘straight-edge-jig’ because using the fence should do the same trick?
Great video! With the router method, what do you do for the other side? Say if you wanted to join 3 boards.
Bien..muy bien..!! 👍
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
This is very helpful. I am getting into making a stand up paddle board, and will be ripping long boards, 8-12’ cedar. I don’t have a jointer, so my plan was to use a 4x8 sheet of plywood, cut down to make a similar jig of 8’ long. What material do you recommend for this? MDF or 3/4” plywood of what type? Thanks
Great video, but i couldnt help thinking how great is wooryoleehun machine is.
First time I've seen your vids. Really good; thanks so much!
Hi Colin, thanks for another great video. I guess maybe I'm stupid or blind, but I couldn't find the link to the jig for straightening the edge of a bent board. I don't have either a jointer or planer, so I was trying to figure out how I can true an edge, especially on a fairly thin and long piece of wood. Thanks, RGK
Any arguments against jointing the second edge at 4:10 using the same method with a sled? Just out of curiosity.
Great video just like all your videos!!! I am just starting tinkering around with wood working and I have a question. What can you do if you don't have a straight edge to reference from on any of your sides??? Is there any way to get it straight without a jointer???
@clayvansickle1
4 жыл бұрын
Yep. The sled he showed in the video does exactly what you are asking. Rip one edge using the jig, then remove the jig and run the now square face against the fence. You now have two parallel edges.
Hi Colin, love your videos so keep up the great work! So my only confusion is this, how do you ensure that the upper board that you are routing is hanging over the MDF equally?
@ellisreeves8936
3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have to be exactly equal from one end to the other from the support/straight edge board. You are routing a straight edge and the guide bushing rides against the support/straight edge board to give you a straight edge on top board
👍excelente!
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
Great tips! I like the jig idea... my table saw is a pretty small one though, and I've been hesitant to make jigs like that for it because I'm afraid it's just too weebly wobbly because of its size. (it's a "jobsite" size saw - the table deck is maybe 24" deep by 30 or so inches wide.) Do you think I'd be better off buying a larger table saw or keeping the one I have and picking up either a planer or jointer next? On the one hand, if I had a larger saw, I may not feel like I need a jointer, as I could use your jig trick. On the other hand, I've wanted both a jointer and a planer for a long time, as I really want to get into making furniture, etc. Thoughts? Thanks!
@greatscotmagic
5 жыл бұрын
What about the possibility of making a larger table for the table saw that the table saw could drop into and be level with the rest of the table. There are plenty of plans in videos on ways to do that, just check it out on KZread. If you did that, you could save the cost of buying of new saw and possibly getting a jointer and a planer.I would look for used tools on craigslist, comma Facebook local selling groups, yard sales, and the like. No need buying new tools when you can get functioning older tools for great deals. Just make sure they work!Tools have not changed much since they were invented, there may be more Bells and whistles at you may never need or useTama orFancierEnclosures. I am of the opinion that some older tools are built better then their modern counterparts, name out of things like cast iron. They can be a bear to move, but they hold up like cast iron. Good luck with your project, I too am hoping to get a Jointer and a planer because I plan to be using pallets and other reclaimed wood for my cigar box guitars and other handmade instruments. That needs some sort of treatment to Look good, which is necessary in order to sell it.
@AllenReinecke
3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a DWE7485 table saw and built a 40" x 40" table that the saw slides and drops into. (watched every YT video and came up with a design to suit me). I now have plenty of width and depth after the blade, but found that simply having the 7485's table in front of the blade wasn't enough for good support for longer, narrow pieces. I built a long fence extension that slides down over the fence and has a foot or so of extra "table" surface ahead of the blade. It's screwed to the underside of that fence extension. The fence is super accurate and works great, though the fence scale is no longer correct, but I always use a rule to check the cut anyway. Measure thrice and cut once! I also have hot-glued a piece of wood to another with a known straight edge and done what Colin did without the jig and clamps, using that known straight edge against the fence (when I was in a rare situation of needing a jointer!) You have to watch that the wood is perfectly flat as the hot glue blobs can add varying thickness to the interface, though it might have been better to glue down the sides like a fillet weld. Done that with my planer sled. I think CA glue and activator would work better for the interface glueing, but more tricky to pry apart.
@WoodWorkWeb I know this is a pretty old now, but I'm hoping for some help here. 1st question: I'm trying to joint some 8' long boards, and don't have a jointer. (Nor can I justify the purchase of one.) I've tried various methods with my router table, but how to do it right is eluding me. So, I'm thinking about doing it with my router (not on the table) and a straight edge, as you did in the second method. Also, I'm thinking about making a "floor" inside my planer to use to slide boards through (e.g., to plane these 8' long boards), as it sounds like you do with that MDF you used here. It seems like this would solve both the problems of jointing AND planing such long boards. Am I on the right track here? 2nd question: I've also looked at Melamine Board. Between MDF and Melamine, is one clearly better than the other for what I'm trying to do? Thanks for any insights and guidance you can provide.
What kind of clamps did you use on your flush trim bit router jig ?
Thank’s a blue 👍 com to France merci.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome!
I use a block plane as I don’t have a jointer or table saw but I am going to make the router table
Hi I'm a beginner looking to build a table. I wanted to know, What is the thickest material u can joint with a hand router?
Thanx, I will try that. My thicknesser/planer gives such dire results (it's a cheapy) and I can quite easily tear out my hair trying to get two glue-able edges.
@philparrish6914
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you use a planer for edge jointing?
Hi, I see that you got a brand new Router from bosch ....which one is it exactly? can you do a review on it ?
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
It's a Bosch 1617EVS. I got it on clearance. I'll put a review on my list of things todo. Thanks for watching.
Niceeeee....
Colin I'm trying to find your vid on making the table saw jointing sled but cant find it. Could you hook me up to the link please. Thanks Enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work Mike
@knecht105
5 жыл бұрын
Here you go kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmeCzZJuZ6yvZKw.html
Great job. Is therea way to joint the wide face perpendicular to this without the jointer?
@ph1gm3nt
6 жыл бұрын
Charlie Day yes and no. Usually the face is made flat first before jointing the edges. Very few people have a *wide* jointer to do the face so either use a surface planner or build a router sled to flatten the face surface.
What would the advantages of buying a jointer be?
I could be overthinking this but if one track is further over than the other wont the edge be cut at a slight angle??
@Salty_Dog_Washington
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be. For your first cut, ensure that the grain on the outer edge of the board (the side being ripped) is at an angle that is ideal. That will be the angle of your grain even after the second cut. So if grain direction matters to you i would use that as a guide when lining up your first cut.
What is the track size you used on sled please, in metric if possible.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
The video on how I built sled is here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmeCzZJuZ6yvZKw.html
When you jointed with the router and clamps, how did you know that both sides of the board were parallel? There was no fence on the clamp side of the board you were jointing.
@CLove511
5 жыл бұрын
He didn't, but that's because it's the first cut. Now that the one edge is perfect, he can take that to the table saw and make it parallel.
Cool Jig. I didn't see the link to make one?
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
Table Saw Seld Jig (Tapering Jig): kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmeCzZJuZ6yvZKw.html Thanks for watching!
One of the best part of all your videos is when you laugh
The second router method assumes the face is flat. If there is any twist, the flush trim bit will have a hard time riding the MDF and keeping the bit square to the side.
@ralphgehteha9924
6 жыл бұрын
d3lsl0w Actually, the same problem exists for all methods.
@thatellipsisguy8984
6 жыл бұрын
Easy enough to shim with either of these methods.
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
As Ian already mentioned, shimming should correct twisting problems you have. Thanks for watching.
@thatellipsisguy8984
6 жыл бұрын
WoodWorkWeb would you recommend dealing with the twist first?
@d3lsl0w
6 жыл бұрын
Jointing faces without a jointer or planer w/jig would be an interesting video. I gotta assume it's gonna be a lesson in hand or power planing.
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you can also use a track saw maybe faster
@knecht105
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
Ciao Collin ok 👌 Fabrizio 🇮🇹
@knecht105
6 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
Without a table saw, is there a way to joint the opposite side of the board and be exactly parallel?
@Ricardoelsupremo
5 жыл бұрын
Peter Pasieka If you have a router you can buy a router “guide” that’ll hook to the jointed side and then you can trim the uneven side. It should be perfectly parallel.
@mmason7240
5 жыл бұрын
@@Ricardoelsupremo 🏆
@heymitch1519
5 жыл бұрын
If you are getting into woodworking, I would recommend definitely investing in a table saw. Ive heard a lot of people say it is the most useful tool!
How would you do this using a router table?
@knecht105
5 жыл бұрын
I'll do a video on it one day soon. Thanks for watching!
Excellent videos, Colin. But you make me so nervous the way your left hand gets so close to the blade when you’re feeding the boards..... please be careful.
@knecht105
5 жыл бұрын
No worries Jeff, it's a lot further than it looks like on video. Thanks for watching!
To joint wood if you don't own a jointer just use this table saw jig, now just pull out your jointer to make this jig.
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This may be the most ignorant thing ever, but what I don't understand is why can't we use the fence in the first place? Went use this sled and clamp the wood on it?
didn't know that Luke Skywalker is not only a jedi but also a wood worker
sad fact: i don't have table saw either
maybe i'm missing something here but this approach with that sled just looks like a waste of time to me why not just use the fence you already have and adjust it for the cut you want then run both sides through it. looks more like overthinking a simple problem.
Like your videos but you do seem to drag out very simple points into somewhat lengthy rants. Very informative though
@sean3278
5 жыл бұрын
I kinda like that tho. It seems like he is keeping in mind the absolute beginner like myself
I'm surprised this has not been said already, but I feel this video is a bit misleading. If your faces are not already perfectly flat, then these methods can create real problems. I'm surprised, you seem a skilled and knowledgeable woodworker, so not pointing that out or taking it into consideration seems odd. If you have twist or cup in that board, you might get some interesting results here.
Jointer = rotating blades in a specialized jig. all the tools he used = rotating blades in a non specialized jig.