Sylas started the rebellion because he saw high class families in Demacia hiding their own mage family members.

@pepsiman4418

3 жыл бұрын

No... he was tortured and just wants revenge. He is a flawed man who's just out of revenge, not for any other person. At least that's what his current motives are

@PraecoxZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@pepsiman4418 dude read the lore.

@pepsiman4418

3 жыл бұрын

@@PraecoxZ I said that's his current motive, ofc he also got pissed from that too

@franksantos2439

3 жыл бұрын

He has some problems with his ego, he really believes he can command the change, he desires to be the one who command the change. If in fact there is some kind of truth behind his movement there is also an hypocrisy (no more kings, except maybe me), the Main truth is that actual Sylas is a basic rebellious activist and, as such, his goal is not to fulfill the realization of an ideal but his ego in that ideal

@zaologic8

3 жыл бұрын

He is a main character of every badass Anime. Aot, Berserk.. Etc

As with every character in League, they have their own point of view and perspective on what they think is right and wrong. I can understand where Sylas is coming from.

@brek7689

3 жыл бұрын

Even there, WHY, WHY ARE U EVERYWHERE

@riebonana

3 жыл бұрын

WHY OMG

@crusadr_4966

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I disagree with the way he went about it. Since I'm in the firm belief that revenge is wrong, but as a Sylas main, I do understand where he's coming from and still enjoy his kit lmao

@zedaddict3494

3 жыл бұрын

Wtf how can you be anywhere

@jobige3814

3 жыл бұрын

Everywhere

im watching this slightly drunk and i feel educated af

@peripheralmaster3265

3 жыл бұрын

almost the same

@whis9928

3 жыл бұрын

how come you wrote this properly

@dont_drop_the_cat

3 жыл бұрын

@@whis9928 guess I wrote it on the phone so autocorrect saved my ass

@SamWeaving

3 жыл бұрын

@@whis9928 people can still type when they're "slightly drunk"

mfw when i get imprisoned and tortured for the crime of being born a mage and people still continue to defend demacia

@blackglasses356

3 жыл бұрын

I agree that demacia is evil but i still find it pretty cool. I mean they have dope armor

@enoshrs

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackglasses356 I'd rather be born as Freljordian or Ionian than a Demacian. As a Freljordian I could be Nunu's friend and as an Ionian I could be a vastayah or at least have some sick magic powers (killing evil noxians looks good tho)

@cardfreak0560

3 жыл бұрын

@@enoshrs on the other hand, you'd have jhin to deal with, and to be honest I'd rather be jailed at birth and escape later than having to deal with the golden demon

@adityasuryavanshi3687

3 жыл бұрын

Look at my comment on this video and there's this guy I've been having a heated conversation with for the last week. My god, does he not make a lick of sense.

@cardfreak0560

3 жыл бұрын

@@adityasuryavanshi3687 huh?

to make it clear, the Lux comic depicted Sylas as evil becose it was from Lux POV, they didn't show the mages that the soldiers killed coz Lux didn't notice them or didn't consider them victimes

@DariushHakhamaneah

3 жыл бұрын

I also think this way

@merouanebelaroussi9706

3 жыл бұрын

@@DariushHakhamaneah well this was a statment from Marvel, probably safe to assume it's RIOT opinion too

@egekazkayas8968

3 жыл бұрын

I think riot kinda hs to push sylas as evil because well otherwise its just demacia bad ,sylas good. This way its more interesting as each person can root for a different side, I personally believe that sylas is the lesser evil but I also think that demacia supporters have reasonable claims

@merouanebelaroussi9706

3 жыл бұрын

@@egekazkayas8968 well right now it's Jarvan 4 and Sylas bad vs Garen and Lux good

@egekazkayas8968

3 жыл бұрын

@@merouanebelaroussi9706 I think that garen good doesn't really apply, he is clearly a bigot but yeah Lux is presented as a goddamn saint once more.

Sylas looks like the trade offer guy

@Urgel

3 жыл бұрын

Trade Offer! I received: You're Ultimate You Recieved: Nothing!

@Local_commentor

3 жыл бұрын

@@Urgel trade offer I take ur ult u get first blood because ur zoe

@IamNotABlockOfCheese

3 жыл бұрын

@@Urgel note the one sylas stole from received death

@zeen1287

3 жыл бұрын

@@Urgel Trade offer : I receive : your ultimate you receive : my full combo

@hashteraksgage3281

3 жыл бұрын

Trade offer I recieve: first blood gold You recieve: lvl 3 600dmg combo

If only jarvan was a good king instead of a crying manchild

@kazuyakenzaki1320

3 жыл бұрын

He's still young he doesnt have the experience necessary to be a good king

@cheesycheese60

3 жыл бұрын

At least he didn't cause the ruination

@renzonavas5520

3 жыл бұрын

All it takes is a single decree

@serenamontelius5752

3 жыл бұрын

He's always have been a crying manchild just like Garen xd

@ceriani1234

3 жыл бұрын

The day sion crushes his head in is the day we can all be happy again.

As someone said, "It is not wrong to fight against genocide."

In my opinions mages needed to rebel. Sylas is unnecessary violent about that but the oppression couldnt stand. They were prosecuted for existing. Mages arent even that dangerous like Demacian people imply. They could only destroy the world with more world runes. So the rocket launcher comparison is somewhat wrong, but thats probably what Demacian think about them (terrorists that want to strike if they get the chance). Demacia will probably stay racist towards mages, confronted with the rebellion and see it as a reason to oppress mages harder.

@floofzykitty5072

3 жыл бұрын

He wasn't unnecessarily violent in any way. His people were the victim of GENOCIDE. It's like saying "Oh, we should have just talked to Hitler when the holocaust was happening! We didn't have to go to war and have all these people die." If you are being persecuted like this, you have every right to fight back.

@SourceOfViews

3 жыл бұрын

Also the rocket launcher comparison is pretty stupid, because you choose to have a rocket launcher, but you don't choose to have magic and the only reason to have a rocket launcher with you is to blow something up

@reianne.

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but in this scenario, with demacia or the mageseekers being Hitler, you would be saying that instead of only killing Hitler and the people involved in the holocaust, kill all of Germany since most of them were n*zi's at that point in time. It is unnecessary killing. Sylas doesn't have the moral high ground. He is also as genocidal and bigoted as the people who chained him up. It brings up that famous quote "an eye for an eye only makes the world blind".

@SourceOfViews

3 жыл бұрын

@@reianne. Are you responding to ada or floofzy? Because the allies *did* kill a lot of civilians - they bombed cities (as did the nazis) and also committed many more crimes. They were still overall the good guys. Now I'm not that well versed with what Sylas does, but from what I've heard, he did do a lot of wrong things. There is no point in killing civilians and that's a terrible thing to do. But I get it. From the few depictions I saw of him, he's too consumed with rage and hatred, but that's what being the victim of a genocide (while also being forced to help with it) will do to you. There is/was a big debate about how far the responsibility for genocide goes: is the average Joe also responsible for what happens since they allowed it to happen? I err on the side of no since they would potentially have to sacrifice their lives and the lives of people they care about to fight it, but Sylas answered it with "Yes" and I can at least understand it, because normal civilians were the people who betrayed him and other mages in the first place. So, again, I don't wanna endorse his actions, but he's definitely got the moral high ground over literal genocide. (And no, he's not genocidal)

@goldenbrigain7031

2 жыл бұрын

@@SourceOfViews From some lore I read, Sylas actually did originally keep himself and his followers from harming civilians. But each time they did the civilians would come back and try to kill them. hating mages isn't a choice in Demacia, it's what makes you demacian in the first place. No matter how kind Sylas was, to reciprocate or accept his kindness would be, for these people, betrayal of their very identities and homeland. Now that's not universal across Demacia: some settlements actually have started to fight the government since Sylas's rebellion was used as an excuse for them to start persecuting sources of magic that even under the harsh anti-magic policy of demacia beforehand, were somewhat...ignored. Not tolerated, but if you could hide it well enough, the powers that be would ignore you. Now though? The Demacian government has started capturing and killing previously left alone people with magic who were instrumental to outlying villages and towns because those mages helped grow crops and were beneficial to those communities. At present, Sylas is in a game where most of the people of his own country he can't even leave alive for fear they'll be honor-bound to kill him no matter what he does to even help them survive , and those few who would accept his kindness I don't think he can even locate reliably.

Garen and Kata on the Minecraft bed made me do the nose exhale

@pepsiman4418

3 жыл бұрын

A.K.A: XD

@bloopy273

3 жыл бұрын

Timestamp?

@gucciotter8098

3 жыл бұрын

@@bloopy273 1:36

My opinion, Sylas is very much not a good person, but thats all due to Demacia and anti mage philosophy and their hypocrisy. The mere existence of Sylas is proof that Demacia is not all good, and that even they can be horrible corrupt. They made Sylas into an extremist, and I csn guarantee that if they didn't put him through so much shit, he wouldn't be as aggressive with his plans

one of my favorite rising League content creators right now. Love the vids mate!

@proxona3227

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! I wish algorithm would help me a bit though :c

When noxus aka the evil ones treat their people More equal than the rightious demacians. Sylas did nothing wrong

@gokcenefebayar3062

3 жыл бұрын

He still killed innocent people that had nothing to do with him, but I agree that Demacia is more messed up.

@release858

3 жыл бұрын

You're equal if you're strong in Noxus.. But still, holy shit is demacia evil af.

@ReverseBatman40k

3 жыл бұрын

@@release858 at least noxians never targeted weaklings for duel/battle because they knew the weaklings can't fight back or win against them

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@ReverseBatman40k This is a joke, right?

@ReverseBatman40k

3 жыл бұрын

@@am1na1996 darius proved it at the legends of runeterra

Sylas rebels Demacia : I made him

QUIET!!! World ender is here.

How tf would Demacia be at any right? They literally made a monster for using magic and then used magic to try to stop him. If you treat someone like that after all they wanted is to serve you, you definitely deserve to be destroyed by them. I hope Viego can do something about it

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, which magic are you talking about? Lux? She is not an agent of the crown, she do it out of her own free will.

Sylas is extreme but who is Lux to judge him, she was protected and coddled by Demacian society and would have let Sylas die in her comic he freed the imprisoned mages why didn’t she, because she wanted to keep her family and cushy lifestyle.

Sylas: does genocide Everyone: "He is the messiah!"

@quinn.iamdefinitelycisgend2542

3 жыл бұрын

@Black Box Painting demacia is already doing something vaguely comparable to hitler. Dont claim sylas is in the wrong for fighting against a genocide, any methods to fight a genocide are acceptable

@wuj0-themanthemyththelegen856

3 жыл бұрын

@Black Box Painting -> The fuck? Using violence against holocaust of a social group - mages here - is a crime comprarable to H*tler? Using violence to defend yours and your kind lives is ok.

@quinn.iamdefinitelycisgend2542

3 жыл бұрын

@Black Box Painting yeah it does

@quinn.iamdefinitelycisgend2542

3 жыл бұрын

@Black Box Painting any methods to fight a genocide are justified

@Jarubimba

3 жыл бұрын

@@quinn.iamdefinitelycisgend2542 No It doesn't, he should fight against the laws in Demacia and show to everyone their hypocrisy, show to people the mages are also humans, all he is doing he putting fear in the people and making the mages looks even worse. He is not only killing non-mages but also actual mages just because they refuse to join in his "gang"

Thing is, “demafia made him a criminal”. They created a monster, so it aint sylas' fault, but demacia's. It's their problem.

4:40 LOL Bruh Lux was about to let Sylas be executed for a crime he didn't commit. She literally stood by as injustice was going to happen. She ain't no hero. She's not someone you feel ashamed if you disappoint. She sided with Demacia's genocidal regime instead of her own thoughts about mage discrimination. Hard to claim the civilians are innocent when they are complicit in a genocidal regime.

@xD-zw6jn

3 жыл бұрын

But she's just naive teenager

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

The mages that follow Sylas actively cheering for the killing of the WHOLE noble entourage in "The Recruit", many of whom are just commoners doing their jobs and having nothing to do with the mage opression. You are literally using Sylas argument of "Swine and Sheep". If someone dont know, they are sheep. What does Sylas do with "sheeps"? Well, apparently he doesnt care about them one bit. You know what that make him? A mage supremacist.

@endikaaspeurrutia1013

2 жыл бұрын

@@am1na1996 yes ¿and?

honestly I think the Demacian Civil War is pretty cut and dry. One group was oppressed and being subjugated to actual genocide for a long time because of circumstances outside of their control, eventually they pissed off just the wrong member of the group, hence a rebellion forms and opposes the formal system. The Lux comics do him dirty, but only because it’s from the perspective of Lux, someone loyal to Demacia with a far too optimistic outlook on her country’s situation. Mind you everything Lux learned in terms of magical control, she learned from Sylas.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

Counter argument: If Lux comic is influenced by Lux perspective (which is a statement without any support afaik), then the time she spent with Sylas must be considered bias too, as during that time she is incredibly sympathetic toward him. Furthermore, I could easily concluded that the situation in the mageseeker compound is not THAT bad, it is only influenced by Lux own fear.

I really love these kinds of videos, good work!!

Basically: "Sylas' life sucked balls but he should try to REASON with society brainwashed to hate his kind even tho he was sentenced to death." Upcoming: "Why Xerath should have just accepted his fate and not propose Ascension to Azir as viable option."

@gigifabulous

3 жыл бұрын

This. I'm tired of genocide apologists and slavery sympathizers.

@championboy4782

3 жыл бұрын

@@gigifabulous likewise

@junkbatz7947

3 жыл бұрын

riot has such a habit of symphatizing with the oppressor its so weird. xerath is depicted as selfish evil sylas is depicted selfish and evil and xayah is also depicted as selfish

@sunmal1599

3 жыл бұрын

@@junkbatz7947 Xayah is depicted as a hero, sylas is turning himself into a villan, xerath was a villan lmao Sylas objective is not to free magez as he claim, he wants to be the only king. Xerath didnt wanted freedom for slaves, he wanted power, thats why he betrayed Azir EVEN if he already destroyed slavement in Shurima

@lazarblanusa6622

3 жыл бұрын

@@sunmal1599 didn't he ascend to destroy slavery, because he wanted to be sure nothing can hurt him if he did that,because of the possible revolting of the slave owners

Yes, yes he is right! If you said that he is as bad as the enemy he fight then by your own logic his enemy are exactly as bad as he is by killing and ruinig innocent lifes. He at least has better reasons.

I mean who wouldn't become so angry that they lose themselves like sylas? Poor Mages- Arrested and Tortured Royal Mages - Pays the mage seekers off.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, even among the mages who he let out of prison, many opposed him.

Yes and no. He was right in the sense that the mages needed justice, but the war he was creating would end many lives, also he was becoming a true monster (although demacia was to blame there). As my grandpa said, there is one moment when the victim becomes the bully

@cindermoth3421

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed and that's also the thing people seem to be doing here, they make it a who's wrong and who's right, whereas at this point it'd be more accurate to say both are wrong. Since if all Sylas wanted was to protect the mages from prosecution he could have just led them out of demacia and somewhere else and use force to allow for as safe a passage as possible. That is however not what he is doing. Being wronged or harmed, is not a mandate to commit harm upon others in return. Not when we are talking about the scale and severity of what is happening. Because if we used that logic, the demacian government and the mageseekers are also in the right to do what they do to mages, due to what happened during the Runewars. Sylas isn't justified in his actions, he is simply becoming more and more guilty of the very same crime, and at some point he will be the greater evil. If he isn't already.

damn... this really changed how I see sylas now. also im binge-watching your videos! I love them :DD

The edits are so good XD

@mordenator865

3 жыл бұрын

P.S. you should make a discord server

Demacia's regime uses violence against mages. Last I checked, violent revolution against violent regimes is justified. Sylas is not as gray as rito likes to portray him.

@boxtank5288

3 жыл бұрын

When you make a Peaceful Protest impossible, a Violent Protest is inevitable. -John F. Kennedy.

@adityasuryavanshi3687

3 жыл бұрын

@@boxtank5288 Amen, brother.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

Most state use violence against people who break the law. The Law of Stone concern the USE of magic, not the existence of mage (per Turmoil). In fact, I dare you to cite an example of any story set before Sylas escape where Demacia detain a mage who 1. can control his/her power and 2. did not use it. The related story I can think of right now (May 2021) is as follow: Demacian Heart Flesh and Stone Lux comic The Soldier and the Hag.

@adityasuryavanshi3687

3 жыл бұрын

@@am1na1996 Brother, it was literally sylas's job to find out mages in demacia to detain them. This implies that the mage didn't necessarily have to USE magic to get detained. Even if that was not the case, the torture that goes on in their prisons is horrible. The fact that they do that because of how a person was born is just doubly horrible. Now to the main point. Sylas's whole rebellion is focused on the point that only the mages who are not nobles get arrested. His fight is against the double standard that exists in demacia. Example, Lux. Every crownguard knows about lux's "secret". She uses magic too. Why is she not in the dungeons? I'll tell you. It's because demacia's whole justice system is rotten to the core. The only way to change it is by a bloody revolution. Usually I am all for a peaceful protest, but that is not an option here.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@adityasuryavanshi3687 point 1: that ignore the fact that, again, we have no evidence for that other than Sylas bio, which is inherently bias (see the famous Xerath Azir or Viktor Jayce bio). Point 2: on that, I can agreed with you on the principle that Demacia desire to control magic is flawed in the first place. Point 3: I challenge your Lux example. She have magic, but whenever she used magic she risked the same risk any other mages faced when using magic in Demacia. I dare you to cite an example of her flaunting her power and facing no repercussion. I can only think of 1.the case where she use it TO SAVE OTHER MAGES at the end of her comic, and Garen being the only witness let her go and 2. When she summon Galio to FIGHT SYLAS HIMSELF in "Warrior" cinematic, which is in the future and we dont have the context for it yet.

*The closer you get to the light the greater your shadow becomes*

Me: “Sylas with *drip* doesn’t exist” Sylas: 5:23

Pls Never stop doing Videos i Love it

Sylas kills everyone: EREN YEAGERRR!!!

I hate Demacia and every Demacian champ to be honest. When Sylas came out, and I saw that he is starting a revolution against Demacia, I was like: ,,Ima insta-buy this champ. Every Demacian should die!" Oh man, those good old days, when he wasnt nerfed that badly.

@egekazkayas8968

3 жыл бұрын

He is the best champ in the midlane right now.

@tamaszsombortolvaj7517

3 жыл бұрын

@@egekazkayas8968 He is really strong in Aram too, considering how he can outplay almost everyone.

Are civilians really innocent for staying passive in front of the hard opression of mages?

@bulletcola7890

3 жыл бұрын

In a way, yes. Because of two possible reasons: 1.) They didn't think of it as the wrong thing to do, and thus don't know that much better in a society that treats something like anti-mage things as actually acceptable, and 2.) Even if they knew it was wrong, they might as well not do anything about it in fear of having a FAR worse fate that the Mageseekers may have in store for anyone who tries to fought them back.

A question I have: if I see it right, Sylas's power consists of sensing and conducting other magic while his schackles absorb it right? Or did he have absorbing powers of his own too?

@gigifabulous

3 жыл бұрын

He learned how to use petricite against the people who used it. Petricite doesn't nullify magic, it absorbs it naturally, and Sylas has learned how to release it. So it's extremely funny Lux summoned Galio in the Warriors cinematic, because Sylas could theoretically control him like a puppet.

@franksantos2439

3 жыл бұрын

He is more as a sponge. He can release the absorved Magic power around him, He does not learn anything tought. For example in fredjorld he needed some Iceborn to apply their power on himself and resist the cold. Yet if there is no Iceborn around him he Will lose that power eventually and dies, it is not permanent.

@egekazkayas8968

3 жыл бұрын

He can absorb and release magic, petricite just absorbs it.

yes. next question

Even with this additional info, Growing up poor and seeing the rich revel in their money and tell others to just "work harder" despite setting every obstacle in poor peoples way to keep their riches. Sylas has been one of the most relatable characters ive ever seen in fiction. And although killing civilians is not right, thr blind rage you feel when you finally lash out at people is a feeling i know all to well.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, hold on. Riot trade Demacia classism for mage-ism already. What you might said maybe true in the old lore, but right now the poor of Demacia have different ways to move up on the world tho. For example, Garen is the captain of the Dauntless Vanguard, but his second in command is "as poor as it come". Cithria is also a commoner, for example.

@mikecampau438

3 жыл бұрын

@@am1na1996 its an analogy between magic and finances. Not finances to finances. Thr hypocrisy in pretending in pretending things are fair when they arent

Sylas is 100% in the right. But since Riot admitting that would require making people like Lux, Garen, and Jarvan (whom we're supposed to root for...?!?!?) look bad they had to make him a violent psychotic asshole to balance it out.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

Can you provide the source for this? I know that Riot always meant for Sylas to be a villain as per his champion insight, but where did they say that they are gonna double down on by making him an asshole?

not alot of youtube who do lore ofc papa necrit my fav and u

After killing innocent civilians no one can be called "good guy"

@geeniede

3 жыл бұрын

Got it, so demacia can't be called the good guy then.

@bulletcola7890

3 жыл бұрын

@@geeniede I think that's what he meant.

2:11 daamn they really got Mace Windu in, Sylas had no chance to not get arrested-

same reason eren is going to destroy the world, his race was mistreated just because of their special powers, and everyone is rooting for him, so yeah id say yeah he’s right

@gamerweed6949

3 жыл бұрын

Eren?

@gamerweed6949

3 жыл бұрын

@Guyn Huỳnh Công did you watched season 4?

Damn Chad Sylas was in love with Lux? Poor virgin Ezreal.

@egekazkayas8968

3 жыл бұрын

Probably not. After all that he's been through he doesn't even have a concept of love anymore, he is more of a madman who wants burn the kingdom that took his life away, he kills any demacian even if they are innocent civilians. He manupilates Lux to break out essencially.

@I_am-lost.

3 жыл бұрын

@@egekazkayas8968 ain't he 30 and she's like 14?

@thatwritingguylol

Жыл бұрын

@@I_am-lost. she’s 19 but yeah he’s in his early 30’s

Code Geass, Attack On Titan, Death Note, League of Legends

There's no good or bad factions/people in League of Legends lore - Everyone has their motives and there will always be someone who opposes them

@Nobody-zl3kk

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, Viego is what amounts to a child throwing a temper tantrum and the Mageseekers are an almost perfect parallel to the gestapo so... would put an "almost" right before the no tbh

1:46 "would you feel safe?" Me an American: yes

Watching attack on titan season 4 made me hyped up to play sylas again idk is it just me? Eren and Sylas seem kinda similar

Neither Demacia nor Sylas is right, and honestly I cant tell which side is worse. Demaica's reasoning of being scared of mages was very righteous, but as time passed on this fear turned into corruption and the Mage Hunters gained more power and thats where Demacia became a messed up country where noone is safe and racism is pretty much considered sacred. But where Sylas is wrong is killing innocent people. Im not talking about when he killed everyone who attended to his execution, Im talking about other innocent people he killed. Neither side is right here, but I have to say Demacia is more messed up than a thousand Sylas'.

@cindermoth3421

3 жыл бұрын

For now, Demacia is more messed up than Sylas for now. The way it is going it'll only escalate and at some point Sylas will become the greater evil

@gokcenefebayar3062

3 жыл бұрын

@@cindermoth3421 Probably

Well yes and no, i think this is the best answer

The reason why he hates the Monarcy is too unfair for them

@endikaaspeurrutia1013

2 жыл бұрын

Where the fuck is the fairness in monarchy?

To make it short, sylas is "wrong" cause demacia was wrong in the first place

Sylas is evil but demacia's genocide is the greater evil here

Sylas is the hope of the oppressed and the fear of the demacians

Demacia is literally hypocritical. So people are scared of magic like Lux’s, but aren’t scared of a giant man heaving around a sword all day….? Both are capable of harming and killing you, one probably more painful than the other if the sword is dull, but they choose to fear magic. Ig it makes sense to fear what you can’t see and something you can’t learn, but that doesn’t excuse executing and imprisoning innocent ppl who you could get to fight FOR you, instead of against you when they form a grudge I.e. Sylas. Garren could pull out his sword and hack an entire demacian block full of people to death, but they don’t fear him. Why? Bc they trust him. That same trust should be extended to people like lux and sylas who love their country as much as any other citizen. Well, loved* in the case of Sylas.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, that is a very simple way to look at things. I can easily point out that we can entrust more people with a gun, but less people with a nuclear device. Same here. Even if he can hack an entire demacian block full of people to death, Garen is still just one man. The damage he can caused when going on a rampage compared to Lux is SIGNIFICANTLY different, as proven when Sylas with Lux power go on a rampage. Demacia is hardly a flawlessly good kingdom, that I would never deny. However, I think you are siginificantly simplify the storyline here.

Sylas is right on the part of demacia making every mage prisoner os wrong but the rebellion is kinda harsh tbh. But thats the way he found for mages to unite and destroy this cursed ways

@cindermoth3421

3 жыл бұрын

Unite is a strong word when many of the mages also disagree with him. But are in essence forced by him to comply. And this isn't exactly the right way to go about it, you just leave the vast amount of the population angry and afraid, while in the end just creating another priviledged class that will be allowed to do whatever they want because they got magic. The amount of problems this will create is just staggering. This is just the french revolution 2 magic boogaloo. Which is hardly a good thing for anyone involved.

The comparison with rocket launchers doesn't work. You are not born with a rocket launcher, you choose to buy one. But with magic, you are born a mage, you have no choice Sylas is right in the theory (freeing the mages and letting them live in peace, giving more power to the people so that it looks less like tyranny...) but totally wrong in his way of applying it (killing civilians, cause a massive war...) But Demacia is wrong in her logic herself. However, it is hard to change what are now perceived as traditions. But they created the problem of Sylas Great video

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, technically Demacia dont ban mage, they ban the use of magic. From the story of "Turmoil", we know that Demacia recognize "benign mage" who can be powerful, but as long as they can control their power and wont make use of it, they face no problem with the law (before Sylas escape).

@moondragon2502

3 жыл бұрын

@@am1na1996 They hunt down all the mages, even those who dont use their magic or dont even know they have powers. Why would they lock up children if not? They are clearly not individuals capable of using their powers.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@moondragon2502 Can you cite an example? Just one example of a mage before Sylas escape who 1. can control their power and 2. dont use it, but still captured by Demacian authority. Cite one, and I will admit I am wrong.

@moondragon2502

3 жыл бұрын

@@am1na1996 I dont have an example for a mage who can control their power, but i've one for a mage who dont even know her power, and Demacia autorithy still wanted to capture her

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@moondragon2502 Wait, who? I am mentally listing all the female Demacian mages I can think of, and I cant think of one: The little girl from Sylas's Demacian Heart story know her power. Lux know her power The woman from the beginning of Lux comic know her power Sona know her power Who are you takling about?

Maybe leblanc killed jarvan the 3rd cause for no reason jarvan 3rd told xin xhao tp send a letter somewhere fsr away during a revolt

As a garen main i feel kinda sad about demacia. What was the right thing to do??

Ziggs being used as an example for mage was totally hilarious yet ridiculous. Come on,guys, he's just a mad furry isis enthusiast

lmao I always thought we were meant to see him as a good guy as I was so impacted by the imprisoning mages thing XD

Sylas is just the league of legends Eren Yeager

@andrianspiridonov7

3 жыл бұрын

Omg thats what i was thinking too😂

Nice

Basically what sylas is doing is right but how he is doing it is wrong

Sylas is right however some of his actions that he's taken can be seen as wrong

So demacians are prejudice against mages

It no longer matters, Ruination destroyed Demacia anyway

@years-ti7xl

3 жыл бұрын

Well guess Sylas' plan got delayed and he was like "but I'm supposed to destroy the kingdom!!" And probably said in Dolph Ziggler fashion "It should've been me!!!"

0:00 General Kenobi

at 1:23 is that a real comic and where can i read it ?

Doesn't TB Skyen have a video on this

@exiledblade9543

3 жыл бұрын

If someone has a video on something does it mean that they own the topic? Everyone might have different opinions and I watched both videos. They are different.

@tehrik0020

3 жыл бұрын

He also has a really biased """subjective""" opinion founded on a lacking knowledge of lore, completed with his snobby attitude and the underlying feeling of "if you disagree with me you're a subhuman". Honestly, I'd get someone else's opinion too on the topic.

@aramisthai-garcia4052

3 жыл бұрын

Good point I agree

@entropy7705

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but TB Skyen's too biased for this topic and is very much still a normie on League lore.

@johnd3421

3 жыл бұрын

@@entropy7705 Imagine if he found this comment section. He will start reporting all of you left and right lol because that is his tactic

Music for fiddlesticks video ?

@proxona3227

3 жыл бұрын

I don't remember sorry..

Oh I'm new ... New league lore content creator...

We fear what we dont understand

Yes

Sylas' catchphrase: SWINE!

I think the problem with both Demacia, Sylas, and the audience themselves is that they’re generalizing the different factions of this conflict as either holistically right or wrongs. Sylas thinks ALL Demacian’s are evil, instead of the Mageseekers who are actively trying to hunt him down and persecute his people. Garen and the other Demacian’s think ALL mages are evil because of the actions of Sylas and his rebellion. Then there’s us, the audience. Everyone thinks Demacia, the whole country, is wrong for their mistreatment of mages, while not considering the history and justifiable reason that they fear mages. Yes, simply having magic doesn’t make you evil, but that doesn’t mean the fear of magic is unjustified. The problem is how their going about controlling it. Everyone thinks Sylas and the mages are right for being victims of Demacia’s fear, despite his own actions mimicking the those of his persecutors. I have always felt that everyone sided with Sylas because they view him as just a victim who will always be justified in what he does, which is just annoying. Both Sylas and the Demacian royals are in the wrong about how they’re handling the mage issue in Demacia, but they both have understandable motivations for why they do what they do which of why the story is so interesting. Their is no clear villain or hero, just a bad situation that tests the morals and beliefs of the characters.

@jezmoz3977

3 жыл бұрын

Well if demacian found a mage theyll going to capture it for one reason And thats wrong Sylas is wrong too but... He's right than the demacian royals

@dehoopb8097

3 жыл бұрын

@@jezmoz3977 He kills mages just because they don't want to join him in the rebelion, i think that both sides are equally wrong

@jezmoz3977

3 жыл бұрын

@@dehoopb8097 he kill mages well he's wrong but who made him that

@Alan-wj5zc

3 жыл бұрын

Sylas is justified in his rebellion because Demacia is a genocidal regime that has imprisoned his people simply for being born a mage. Never mind that they are nowhere tied to previous mage crises other than simply being a mage. Obviously, if Sylas kills innocent people he is bad. I think this is a weak writing plot to make Demacian Champs a bit more likable. Yet he is one man. While the Kingdom of Demacia is still incredibly evil and genocidal. It's disproportional power. Demacia is at the stage of systematically imprisoning mages and executing them. Sylas with his bare hands cannot compete with this. Thus Sylas is the lesser of two evils. One being bad. The other being Nazi-Germany level bad.

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alan-wj5zc Bullshit. The village in "Turmoil" literally attack soldiers in rebellion because one of their people was taken for being a mage. Only by pure luck that no one was killed that day. At the end of the story, LITERALLY none of them face any repercussion for such action. Even by our 21st century standard, such reservation in punishment is hard to find, much less in the world of Runeterra.

Its obvious . Garen lost his promos for silver . Thats why he is behind from this bronze bars .

Demacia I would say is more wrong, because they are fine being against mages

They locked up a boy, they let lose...a killer.

yes

To be fair a lot of those civilians were responsible for turning in and ruining the lives of hundreds of innocent mages, just as his own parents turned him in without question. The whole of demacia is an issue due to their dogmatic beliefs surrounding mages, the only person he knows for sure is different would be Lux, shes from a royal family and is a mage, but isn't hypocritical whereas someone like Garen has magic, but also hates mages.

sylas is right but the story writers want to make him bad so they make sylas atack civilians .Its stupid that sylas kills civilians. i dont understand its all story writers fault.( sorry for bad english)

IN legends of RUNETERRA it is confirmed that mages seekers didnt kill Jarvan III Leblanc did it

Well, I suppose that with Garen, yes and no. Yes, he has motives, good reasons, for doing what he does, but at the same time, what he does is ironically very bad, and make things worse. Garen also is at fault here. Yes, Demacia does have very good things, but he should acknowledge that the country's past was VERY dark and accepting them, along with accepting the magic users, should be the way instead of going "DEMACIA IS ALWAYS RIGHT EVEN IF WRONG"

Lux is a good friend

Yes he was

Sylas is in the right but he could’ve made his doings better

Demacia : rascism, classism, genocide Everyone : "Sylas is bad because violence"

@franksantos2439

3 жыл бұрын

But sylas reaction is the same demacians did in the past. They are not "racist" against mages for no reason. Demacian people lived tragedies cuz magic and mages. Thats the reason they build their nation near petricite. It's a reaction for a trauma. Sylas actions don't overcome that trauma, it adds more fear and hate to the solution.

@lazarblanusa6622

3 жыл бұрын

@@franksantos2439then wtf did demacians do??? Mages wronged them, so they can kill and imprison them, but when bad shit happens to mages, they cant revolt? And you are excusing genocide over small children because of a war that happened centuries ago. Extreme times draw extreme measures my dude, there is no holding back on a genocidal regime.

@celesteporterstout

3 жыл бұрын

@@franksantos2439 It's a good reflexion, but it's flawed on some point (imo, that's just how I reason irl with facist and the like). 1. No matter what, the power of mages don't justify segregation against them. I could make the same argument irl against a whatever ethnicity based on whatever reason (biological, cultural, etc...). No to said I don't *understand* the reaction against trauma : it's just not an excuse on moral grounds imo. 2. You can't tolerate intolerance. Reacting against a threat on the same ground of said threat is acceptable under a certain set of rule (best/overused exemple : why you have no choice but to punch the nazis).

@am1na1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@lazarblanusa6622 But then again, how is Demacia not justified in their own reaction? Even if we ignore the Rune War (And a shit load of other magical incident before it like Ruination, the Darkin, etc), how responsible is the magic user of Valoran? The head of the Noxian state LITERALLY, not figuretively, but LITERALLY make use of demonology. The Noxian own elites are filled with a Spider monster, a witch and a Blood monster, among other abominations. The North is filled with raider who also employed magic AND an Ice Witch who, again, LITERALLY sold the world to the Watcher in exchange for power (this happened before the Rune War, ofc) And, again, despite the Rune War being within known history, mages who come across the World Rune STILL choose to abuse their power. Given Sylas reaction when seeing and killing Ryze in game, it mean if Sylas come across the World Rune, he would still succumb to their temptation. Those are all present time. Demacia treatment of their mages is horrible, but the mages of Valoran if not the whole Runeterra are all fucked in the head.

@lazarblanusa6622

3 жыл бұрын

@@am1na1996 that argument Is not applicable because there are always bad people, and you can lock up bad people, but not others because they resemble those people in their appearance. That would be like if you arrested all humans, since humans are also reckless and dangerous, I understand the fear, but the genocide is too far, myb restrict the usage of magic, but not genocide. Also, if they are agaisnt the mages because they are dangerous, why not imprison and murder the mages from the noble families, the problem is not whether they should be afraid or not, its the lies, the bias, the terror and the torture and murder of people because some of them happen to be dangerous, unlike regular people, who, as we all know, are all good and smart and would never hurt anyone ever, God forbid kill someone.

This should be after Arcane.

so he's like Grisha? and Zeke is the parents

Many things to see, his Main problem resides in his own movement, ot because you are a demacian mage you have to be with him. If there is someone who really wants and represents a change for demacian discrimitation is Lux. Sylas uses fear and resentment as tactic to create chaos, he is not protecting his own people anymore, in his tantrum he is only giving more reasons to hate mages.

@lazarblanusa6622

3 жыл бұрын

Except lux didnt have to go thru any of the shit sylas went thru because she was born in a noble house, so her morals or choices dont mean shit in thw mage revolution, she may be a mage, but she isnt one of them, and never will be.

@Alan-wj5zc

3 жыл бұрын

Lux was about to let Sylas die bruh, like she's woke but she's still what Martin Luther King would call, "a white moderate". People who think see civil rights movement as good or have no opinion, but can't seem to get on board with the way it's being run. "More obsessed with a semblance of order than justice,". This culminated into inaction when faced with the execution of an innocent man. Lux isn't a real ally to the mages when she allows discrimination and genocide to continue rampant. While Sylas may be narcissistic and maniacal in his ideals, he still presents a chance to his fellow mages to fight back and take their freedom. Meanwhile, Lux bemoans the hatred of mages and their terrible treatment yet she allows it to continue, even when it is happening directly in front of her.

@egekazkayas8968

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alan-wj5zc well she has no power to change it, all she can accomplish by meddling is getting herself locked up or killed.

@egekazkayas8968

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alan-wj5zc that doesn't matter, just because youve been through stuff you are not justifies in commiting crimes.

@Alan-wj5zc

3 жыл бұрын

​@@egekazkayas8968 Do you think laws are a good place to get your morality from? If we were back in the 1800s America and an escaped slave asked for your help. You would have been legally required to give that runaway slave up or be punished for helping them. Unjust laws are meant to be broken. Do you think slave rebellions are immoral when they kill their masters? No. When people enact violence against you. Whether you get locked up, killed, forced to do labor simply for being born with a certain trait. You are morally justified to defend yourself. Even in modern society. If a person threatens your life with a weapon or a gun you are legally and morally justified in defending yourself. As for Lux you just prove Sylas's case. She's a noble yet her mage blood lowers her status significantly. If a noble Crownguard daughter can't defend the life of one mage she grew to care about, the system is way too corrupt to fix peacefully. Mage Seekers are symbolic Gestapo. Demacia is on the verge or already at the stage of Nazi Germany. Would you be able to say that the ethnics under Nazi Germany shouldn't act out and instead peacefully attempt to change Adolf Hitler's mind? Come on bro. Mage Rebellion 100% justified. Sylas is an anti-hero simply because Demacia is true evil.

pfft, i wish i could walk around with a rocket launcher on my back -_-

Its kata with garen

Sadly civilians are caught the middle no matter who wins the fight, in war no one cab afford to be a civilian because people by nature are selfish

As one said.. No one can be called "the good guy" when you kill innocents. Thing is to.. Leblanc is behind everything. She is the reason why Demacia did all those horrible things to mages. She playing everyone like a puppet. She is pure evil.

Yes of course he is right

Sylas is as ruthless and moraly unright as you can be. Its a typical chase of being so insane, that you sound sane again. If you listen to his viocelines, you will notice, that Sylas story is personal revenge cloaked in a "rebellious" reasoning. Qoute 1: "Once you have seen the truth, you can't keep living the lie" He is so obsessed about people not caring, that there are mages among the noble, who are overlooked, that he blames the whole ideal, that demacians life as a lie. The lie witch destroyed him view on life. ALL of demacia is a joke to him. The "sheep" AND the "swine"... Qoute 2: "Swine and sheep, thats all they (demacia) are" Thats why Sylas does not even care about the low class, the low class represents demacian ideas aswell... they are sheep waiting for their slaughter... he doesn't by whom they are slaughterd... Qoute 3/4: "Good? Evil? What does any of that even mean?" "Villany never knows itself" Sylas even admits, that he has no moral highground... he is not good, not evil... he is simply trying to uprise the concept of control, that is demacia. He doesn't even see the villian HE has become. Qoute 5 "As long as I draw breath, so does the revolution" He admits, that he is the whole reason... without him this revoulution would not be, because its personal... he is the only one who really SEES the "lie" The reason why he does the rebelious inspiering mage leader, you might ask? A rebelion against order and control? Ideally you sow chaos. AND thats what he does. He is a monster of deception. He doesn't care about the "sheep"... He is their shepard, who leads his good little cogs... despite hating to see other being a "good boy" to their master. But he is still fuckin smooth about evrything.

@meeszijlstra5426

3 жыл бұрын

I think hsi quote of "let me help you think for yourself" shows this very well as well. He's not truly liberating anyone. Helping someone think for themselves, that's just a creative way of saying he wants to force the correct, HIS ideals on people instead.

@terranoxis7987

3 жыл бұрын

@@meeszijlstra5426 The best scene, where you see him being selfish in his conquest is in the comic. He keeps telling Lux about his vision and the fact, that he is no murderer. Witch in his own sick mind is of course true. He cloaks his cause in the liberation und justice for mages. Wizch is untrue... Sylas simply wants to break the shakles witch Demacia is... He wants to destory the symbol of control this nation is. That's why he says "No, I am sorry too, little Light." Lux truly wishes to change and free demacian mages... Sylas simply wants to destory everything and need alies for that. Its like his Quote says: "From the rubble, true order will be born."

@gintoki4274

3 жыл бұрын

​@@terranoxis7987 "Once you have seen the truth, you can't keep living the lie" He is referring to the fact that most Demacians don't recognize their own hypocrisy they live in. And most people don't know what people do to the mages all they know is that once they are found they never come back, and yes the higher up do live in a lie but the only ones who overlook those people are the mage seekers and higherups themselves it is never stated that the lower class know about all this information. "Swine and sheep, that's all they are" How can you even possibly assume he is saying this about all Demacians he doesn't hate everyone in Demacia he is referring to the mageseekers and those who oppose his rebellion, Sylas loves Demacia as per another quote after he dies in-game"Take me home..." Meaning that Sylas still loves Demacia it's just that he feels betrayed that his own kinfolk couldn't treat him and the mages the way they treat the higher class and middle class. He has many other quotes proving he loves Demacia, and there is literally 0 information saying he doesn't care for the lower class, and that wouldn't make sense anyway to say that he didn't care for the lower class because he literally came from the lower class which creates a HUGE bias as seen In literally real life. He would care for the lower class more than any other class since he actually came from there. "Good? Evil? What does any of that even mean?" "Villany never knows itself" Sylas is not admitting that he has no moral high ground here, I have no idea how you came upon this. He is just saying how people call his rebellion evil while they call the Demacians good even with all their hypocrisy. And how do you know that Sylas doesn't recognize his own evils? Maybe Sylas does recognize his evils but does it anyway because the Demacians have done the same or he thinks it's the only way for Demacia to realize how wrong they were. I will say though Sylas has extremely bad moral grounds though, but can you blame him? 15 Years alone in the dark with no social interaction except for the occasional guard who only came to give horrible food like the rats. His only interactions were the rats he ate to survive. He also saw many other dark things, torture, death of other mages, how cruel the mageseekers treat the mages, and etc. "As long as I draw breath, so does the revolution" I agree that he started the rebellion because you know he literally did. But he isn't the only one to see the lie of Demaica. All of the mages who have experienced the same as Sylas or all the mages of the lower and middle class see the lie but what could any of them do against petricite gear and weapons? NOTHING. So they were kept suppressed and unheard. Sylas is good at deceiving people as per se Lux, and of course, he is using chaos against control. But guess what? If a mage tried to peacefully protest against Demacia they would just lock the mage up because he was simply a mage. Just like how it was in the Holocaust and that's how you keep voice suppressed. And how is Sylas the Shepard of his people, do you know why Sylas is known as a communist meme because of his MANY MANY quotes and obviously his ult like for example "A crown a crown for everyone" "So who wants to kill the king" "Whatever they bring we'll match it!" "Rise up brothers and sisters..." "No more kings, no more queens, no more mageseekers, it all ends now!" There are many more things like this showing how he treats and sees everyone as equal, he is the leader of the rebellion because of 2 main reasons. The first reason is that he literally started the rebellion so many already see Sylas as their true leader. The second one is that although Sylas is using Chaos for his rebellion there has to be some sort of order in this "Chaos" no matter what. So in order to be successful Sylas recruits, commands, and etc in order to get that order because without any order the rebellion is a joke with no organization, they would just become a group of weak bandits. Now I'm not saying that Sylas is right by no means but a lot of people misinterpret Sylas which is why I replied to your comment because I saw that a lot of the information you gave was misinterpreted.

@terranoxis7987

3 жыл бұрын

@@gintoki4274 Well, I womt claim your Viewpoint is in incorrect. But you missed the point I was dragging along. Ofc he is the inspiering appealing mage leader in public... Some of his lines are shouted to the public... What simply did is, analize psyche and assumed what I already claimed. He ain't doing it for the people or for anyone but himself. He may even still love demacia. I didn't deny that. But he hates demacian ideals. Ideals witch are upheld by "everyone". Without these controlling ideals. Is demacia even demacia anymore? And do you knoe what proves my point, that doesn't care as much as you might think he does for the commoners? He ain't above killing innocents, neither are his followers. BUT, that all my assumtion to him. I may have missed something, I may not. You don't have to agree, like it even matters if we do or not... Just believe whatever is convinitent fot you.

@gintoki4274

3 жыл бұрын

@@terranoxis7987 I didn't miss your point I quite literally refuted every single claim you made with your extremely bias psych analysis and I can explain what logical fallacies you had but that's for another conversation. Anyways the lines I have quoted were all in-game not in public just to make sure you aren't confused. And even if they were in public yes of course he's trying to be an appealing mage leader because that's quite literally how you start a speech or a revolution. You want to seem like a good leader that you can follow so to do this you invoke emotion into others you want to give them motivation or more morale. Just like the speech given during the Battle of the Bastogne during WW2 when the Americans were completely encircled by german forces. Like I said I have claimed that he is doing it for others not just himself and you have yet to bring one piece of evidence countering my argument. The ideals aren't upheld by everyone they are only held by the upper-class as I said before. In a lower-class area of Demacia the lore states that a girl who was a mage was taken away by the mageseekers the town was furious threatening death and throwing items at the mageseeker who took the girl. The comic and lore even say that the lower class and middle class appreciate the help of the mages a lot more than the upper-class do. And without these controlling ideals, Demacia is still Demacia, because as you should know the whole reason Demacia could even be built was petricite it was a safe haven for people who wanted to get out of the rune wars, and even without these ideals the petricite would still exist wouldn't it? And also how does killing innocents prove that he doesn't care about his followers or commoners. In the lore and the comic, the only innocents he is shown to kill are the mageseekers and the girl when he was young which was an accident, the people who literally watched him about to get beheaded and said to "Kill the mage". He has also killed people in an escort for food and supplies and as far as I know, I THINK he has helped a clan in freiljord massacre a village in order to not get killed, earn their trust, and get new members in his revolution but there is literally 0 information on this and it's just guessing. But yeah other than when he was young and maybe when he was about to get beheaded what he has done is pretty bad. But I really don't see how this has any correlation with not caring for commoners and his followers because there is no evidence pointing towards that fact and so far it actually seems quite the opposite. What you are actually doing is called a False Cause fallacy. I will say that this whole argument is basically a fallacy which is called the Hasty Generalisations Fallacy (Anecdotes) so it's really hard to come up with a solid point with the small amount of sample size and information we have. But yeah in conclusion Demacia and the revolution sucks.

the very selfishness of keeping the peace . . . start the war

5:20 Silas final form

This is like avatar korra book 1 but reversed