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"How about a gold dial?" "Which gold?" "Yes."

@renemarquezrodriguez941

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite part too

@hitarthmodi3600

3 жыл бұрын

This has recently became my favourite meme *YES*

@sulthanhafiin9200

3 жыл бұрын

The way this guy speaks is humorous yet elegant

@Pentti_Hilkuri

3 жыл бұрын

"All of them"

@StopFear

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm....would anyone really expect any high end watch company not to be able to provide a particular type of gold?

Its always a romance story until reference numbers come to play 😂

@calebjaymes9710

3 жыл бұрын

Frfr

I'm a Lange fanboy, but the dial on that Credor... My god is it beautiful

@TucsonDude

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, but that movement of the ALS with the gold chatons, screwed balance, blued screws, swan's neck regulator, waves on the top plate...blow it away.

@habfan123424

3 жыл бұрын

@@TucsonDude Lange for sure make THE prettiest movements in the world, but GS/Credor step it up more with their dials

@Bhethar

3 жыл бұрын

It looks like you could taste it.

4:53 just look at that mirror finish

I'm actually amazed you guys managed to get that Credor in the channel

@hathaway.1166

2 жыл бұрын

Since they’re part of Richemont group, that probably helped them pull the strings easier

@MPD90

5 күн бұрын

@@hathaway.1166 Richemont have nothing to do with Credor?

Credor will always be one of my grail watch brands. They make amazing dials.

There is something special about ALS dials, no matter how simple they are.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

You could say that about any high end watch.

@einundsiebenziger5488

3 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 There are quite a few high-end watches whose dial is unrecognizeable due to a shitload of subdials or addedd functions or even watches that don't have a dial at all.

I don’t think the Swiss are “done” so to speak, but Germany and Japan brands have changed the game the same way the Swiss did coming from the French dominated watch era

@alexhurt7919

3 жыл бұрын

Swiss dominance in the industry has been done. Obviously they'll still remain a huge part of watchmaking. They won't be the best watch makers at any price point though. Over time Swiss watchmaking will cease to be the thought of as top tier. Already I'd say A. Lange has taken the crown as the best watch maker.

@alectang1614

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexhurt7919 Lange are tremendous, don't get me wrong. But they still can't make their own cases or bracelets - Sinn make them for them. And the Big Date complication on Lange's were actually given to them by JLC due to being in Richemont. Their finishing is top level though but it's not a fully integrated watchmaker yet.

@canonyeo4286

3 жыл бұрын

@@alectang1614 good points.

@dimman77

3 жыл бұрын

@@alectang1614 I don't think the information about Sinn/SUG for the cases is current. Hallmarks are different now I believe.

@alectang1614

3 жыл бұрын

@@dimman77 I'm quite sure Sinn's cases are still made by SUG, well Sinn own SUG now. The Lange Odysseus white gold model still has the SUG hallmark. You can see it on the case back.

Wow these images on a 4K display are just mind blowing! Thanks a lot! And the story telling is top class as usual :)

The Credor is sublime. If I owned it, I fear my mind would find enlightenment leaving my body staring at the dial with vacant eyes and spittle drooling down my chin in some mental institution.

@tods.9947

3 жыл бұрын

And then you turn the watch over...

@robertkirk4387

2 жыл бұрын

I know it would be sacrilege but I do not think I would dare wear it.

that Credor dial looks like my Satinwood kitchen table

@groges7999

3 жыл бұрын

Or my morning latte 🤣

@RedloxBeats

3 жыл бұрын

@@groges7999 lol

@dimman77

3 жыл бұрын

@@groges7999 Hmmm... I'm now imagining a latte art dial in multicolour gold...

@jakekaywell5972

3 жыл бұрын

Given how wood is an excellent material, I'm not dissapointed in the slightest!

@RedloxBeats

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakekaywell5972 well I mean the quality is for sure superb but I did not say they actually used wood but it just looks like one

I can never get enough of your videos!!! Gorgeously shot. And the voice....that voice...❤️❤️

When I had my rolex watches I noticed that all I really 'looked' at was the name rolex and I think that's the great trick. They've made such a deal of the name that you don't ogle anything else because there's nothing else to ogle. Now I have my GS watches I'm constantly in flux. One minute admiring the dial, then the hands, then the incredible case work, and it goes on and on. Rarely do I look at and admire the name. That, for me, is the mark of a truly great watch. If you can remove the name and it still look brilliant. The ALS and Credor don't need the name there to be amazing.

@WatchMeEDC

3 жыл бұрын

And that’s why H. Moser is on fire right now. Such good design and execution they aren’t even putting their own name on some of their watch dials

@canonyeo4286

3 жыл бұрын

Well said. I have the same thoughts

@johnvuong6926

3 жыл бұрын

The price range is in a different ball park.

@michaeleccles3336

3 жыл бұрын

@@WatchMeEDC did you see the review of the annual calender (H Moser) they did? So understated and just very very cool. A real 'if you know, you know' watch.

@WatchMeEDC

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeleccles3336 I did. Moser is really building up some serious momentum with collectors and enthusiasts. The fumé dials are just fantastic, along with the exaggerated sapphire crystals and case shapes, they have really created a unique style in a very short time.

Counterpoint: Swiss marketing and storybuilding are an unstoppable force. They lost technical(Grand Seiko) and craft(AL&S) dominanceover a decade ago.

@matthieudarbord737

3 жыл бұрын

There are countless examples of Swiss watches surpassing Grand Seiko in technicality and AL&S in craft. Examples are independent watchmakers like Laurent Ferrier but also larger manufacturers like PP, Bréguet and Journe

@ocb05

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthieudarbord737 yeah with 10-20 times the price of GS

@patrickbrcr

3 жыл бұрын

@@ocb05 I agree...GS shouldn't have been mentioned in that sentence.

@dimman77

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthieudarbord737 Ferrier doesn't do any work himself. Just buys in expensive parts. Journe watches are notoriously unreliable, some going back for months-long warranty work within weeks of purchased new. And Breguet is still using dressed up old Lemania and Longines movements in some of their watches. And seriously what Swiss watch matches the technical aspects of the Grand Seiko 9R02 Spring Drive?

@sergeyzerkin8029

3 жыл бұрын

How ? Rolex still makes better movements thanks Gs high beat

The quality of these videos... - they are simply mesmerizing.

@gc4397

3 жыл бұрын

The most impressive part to me is that the quality of the videos have been this great since the beginning! Usually channels grow into this but not this channel. I'm not even a watch collector and I'm sucked into this world of watchmakers and small intricacies of each watch shown because of the great camera work and narration.

@sushimshah2896

3 жыл бұрын

@@gc4397 I liked the earlier music

@paceyombex

3 жыл бұрын

Event more amazing, It always has been.

The credor dial looks like neapolitan ice cream, a very beautiful ice cream.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

It is a nice mid level watch.

@einundsiebenziger5488

3 жыл бұрын

If this was in fact an ice cream dish, it'd be indeed quite nice. As a watch dial this is pure kitsch.

@paulbellas8797

Ай бұрын

Love the simplicity of the dial. Perfection

What a wonderful way of STORY TELLING is thiisss!!! Excellent in each and every single episode... Thank you very much for the big efforts 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

A. Lange & Söhne is on an other level compared to the Swiss. Although King and Grand Seiko was the reason of many watch "contests" in the 60s and 70s to be terminated by the Swiss, because of the Japanese winning at them😱🥰

These are the kind of videos that keep me in the hobby and keeps me dreaming of owning such a piece.

A Lange is my ultimate watch. They are so simple yet beautiful. I'm still saving. I will eventually have to sell some of what I have to afford one, but I will afford one.

@jimlittle5769

3 жыл бұрын

I will pick up an ALS for my retirement watch, then I'll be done collecting. The only watch I will spend five figures for.

@MICHAELZHANGCA

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimlittle5769 I was thinking to myself today. I will sell all the watches I have, buy an A. Lange and a Casio (my gshock is down) and I'll be done. Maybe I will do that one morning after I wake up.

@jimlittle5769

3 жыл бұрын

@@MICHAELZHANGCA when I get my ALS, I am sure at least a couple of my watches will be traded in to help with the cost and because, really, once I have that I'll be wanting to wear it a good chunk of time so others will go because they just won't be worn.

@MICHAELZHANGCA

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimlittle5769 Exactly. I buy watches to wear, not to collect dust. I hope you get yours soon.

@patrickbrcr

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimlittle5769 I think a perfect two-watch collection is a dressy ALS and a stainless Rolex for everything else.

Listening to you talking about watches made me a watch-head. Thanks for the great work!

To me A Lange and Sohne is the best watchmaker ever. I may not own one or even see one in real life ever, but I wish to own one.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

Not best ever. Great watches but they have not real history.

@einundsiebenziger5488

3 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 A. Lange's history is in fact almost as old as PPs. It just was interrupted by 43 years of communist dictatorship. The current company is a re-foundation, established in 1990 but its origins go back to 1845.

@JiiHate

3 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 He did say "to me".

@mutairird

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that. I wish you all the best.. Tissot for ever.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

@@einundsiebenziger5488 The current A. Lange & Söhne is a company that was resurrected in 1990 and is not the company of 1845 years ago. A. Lange & Söhne makes really nice watches and they most certainly will keep the Swiss on their toes but I would not say best ever.

Credor! Its refreshing to see a video on Credor which is an unknown brand to many unless your a hardcore watch collector! I do agree Japan and Germany are giving the swiss a run for their money and with Grand Seiko's introduction of the constant force tourbillon they are on their way to be in the same conversation as Patek!

@JimIBobIJones

2 жыл бұрын

Its more that the brand is targeted heavily for the Japanese internal market and not marketed in the west. The designs are almost entirely "arty", avant-garde dress watches and doesn't fit the aesthetics popular outside of Japan. Grand Seiko designs are more conservative/familiar and does much better in the west, so they have focused their marketing on that instead.

Both the ALS and the Credor shown here are lovely pieces, but I would give the nod to the Credor for showing a bit more personality while still being restrained enough to be a proper dress watch. A tough thing to pull off but the folks at the Shizukuishi Watch Studio did it and did it well in my opinion. The thinner movement of the Credor is also a big plus for me.

Yes. The war analogy with Swiss on one side, and Germany and Japan on the other always makes one think “what if”.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

Modern day Swiss armed services would be no push over.

Love the new angles and camera views.

Oh my the dark-to-light-light-to-dark transitions at 3:07 were extraordinary! Well done good sir! Another outstanding video.

You voice is so soothing especially in this category it fits perfectly!

The A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia Thin is a beauty!

Two watch Titans! Hand finishing to the extreme! Great video!

Awesome macro views on great watches! Nothing better than A. Lange & Söhne!

I'll never have enough discretionary money to afford either so your video is likely the closest I ever get but I can still vicariously appreciate the beauty of both these pieces thanks to your words and pics. Thank you for that.

The Damascus Jupiter dial is something of mythical prophecy. Never has a company done something to this level. Well done.

@paktipung7903

3 жыл бұрын

Jupiter dial.. u should patent those words,

I seen a few different A.Lange Sohne watches in person last week they are another level of watch making. That Credor is amazing.

Few watches can hold up to the super macro at high magnification used here. These 2 can. This is extraordinary finishing at a level so high that it is an insane level of attention to detail.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

Magnification is not the means to judge a watch. Art is not judged superior by magnification.

@doctorpanigrahi9975

3 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 Rolex will fall apart under high magnification

Credor dial is just from other planet , hell of a art 🔥🔥🔥 but I will go for Lange anyway. Your macro video justifiing have crazy finishing they do on movement 🤯

A. Lange & Söhne Datograph Perpetual Tourbillon (salmon dial) = mic drop

I am in no position to pass comment on the narrative, however ....what a beautifully filmed and edited video. Very well done. Excellent.

The gold Mokugane dial on the Credor is indeed impressive. I have been wondering many years why that is not a more common option for dials.

So much love for this!

How is it possible that I fload (!) Just by looking at the A. Lange dial..... Simple , but OMG what a beauty.

Fantastic content like always! Bravo!

"This makes DaVinci's work look like a bus station Billboard" that cracked me up 🤣

That 'empty' dial of Lange! God, it is so great.

The view at 7:03 is one to behold with the gold chatons, screwed balance, blued screws, (engraved) swan's neck regulator, waves on the top plate. Is there even a Swiss watch with that view?

Wow ! Amazing watches and amazing videos _ I would say the best watches videos on the net.

One of your best vids. That macro was insane

Yes. That is an amazing Credor. I think that we could have chosen one with a little less unique of a dial to make a better comparison though.

It's a good day when Watchfinder releases a new video. A. Lange & Söhne is my grail brand. And to me they're better than any Patek, Vacheron, or Audemars.

Guys, I finally put the deposit down for my Lange! P.S. Watchfinder, you forgot to do a video for the Reverso's 90th Anniversary!

@josephm.6453

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats!

@VVS1920

3 жыл бұрын

Decision well made

@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations! Finally!

@fardinhooo

3 жыл бұрын

fucking incredible !!! which one did you go for and why

@TheDafrankie

3 жыл бұрын

Interested to learn about how to order one! Can we just go into an authorised dealer and order one?

I really want to get a substantial part of my collection to be Credor. I have the Eichi II and some piece uniques but really want some more...

Your amazing dude, we love your content

Nicely done!

Thank you for the great presentation :-)

Credor.... I'm speechless. Magnificent.

Lange Saxonia Thin is an amazing timeless beauty from any direction

Wow... I have a theory that the CEO of Patek Phillipe behind closed doors pulls open a draw and places a A.Lange & Sohne on their wrist and just stares! Maybe just maybe?

Excellent vid

As always, a very interesting video on the artistry of timepieces. Just a bit of FYI regarding the Credor and the dial technique. It's pronounced Mo - ku - meh and it translates to "wood grain", which is the pattern made by the folding over of the metals as in the folds of a Japanese sword. This would have been a more accurate example given the context, rather than Damascus. Gane refers to the gold of the dial. So...

@dimman77

3 жыл бұрын

Mokume isn't made by folding. It's a single layered billet of individual sheets that is fired while wrapped in wire for tension to a temperature that the metals start to 'sweat' and diffusion bond. The billet is then removed from heat and struck with a hammer to complete the bond. Then it's cooled and treated like a single block of metal. Forged, rolled, etc... Textured unevenly it is then filed flat to create the pattern.

Wonderful video

Omg that Credor... 😍😍😍

Hi There, thanks for all your videos. I learn so much from these videos and even bought a few based on your recommendations on the channel. Just had a request if possible. I noticed when I was looking to by a GMT watch, I struggled so much to find any of the GMT’s that support 1/2 hr Time Zones. Even the great Rolex GMT master II only does full hr time zones. This seems like a void in the watch market or maybe I’m just not privy to it. I think it will be really awesome if you can may be do a video on watches which are able to manage 1/2 hr time zones. I know it’s not common but there are a few countries which have this requirement and will be a great video for knowledge. Thank you 🙂

That CREDOR.... Wow amazing

Amazing watches and nice videos. Quick suggestion, could you please make a video with the metiers d’art line from Vacheron Constantin. I think those watches design and production is incredible. Unfortunately, the price is quite high.

Credor content? I’m sold.

4:38 -- (paraphrasing) "the battle can't be won by numbers, but instead another way... the Saxonia's weapon is perfection"... And we hear the narrator say this as we watch the ALS's rough-hewn minutes hand contrasted by the Credor's fully-finished-front-and-back minutes hand. ;-)

You always say "It would mean a lot to me personally" - but will we ever manage to put a face to this voice? :)

Beautiful time-tellers, just the way I like watches to be. In a white gold or platinum case, with white dials please.

My god, that Credor is beautiful.

That Credor is simply amazing.

Credit is the very top for me thanks for the great vid.

It's never enough to watch your videos just once. 👍👍👍

Mokume Gane, wood grain metal. I love it cant believe they havent made a watch with this type of face before

Your videos are good, no need for the cheap clickbait titles, you are better than that!

@KC-bv9kf

3 жыл бұрын

He argued his case and summarize it well at the end.

Any chance of doing a video on a Credor ref. GBAQ961 with the bas taille grand feu enamel dial?

I‘ve went to Japan and seeing these Credor Watches in a shop in real was an great experience. This is the pinnacle of waches.

You have a great voice, accent, and the text is always spot on. Can’t you show your face and share your name with your audience? Btw, the hands look good also 😂😂. Cheers!!

"An industry build on pride and ability" what a quote.

Undoubtedly AL&S is beautiful

Watchfinder surely do love a Lange.

Great video as always!! Fruit for thought... If you take a step back and look at the famous watchmaker's in the past and the present, the founder's of famous ''Swiss'' brands and today's ''independant'' watchmakers... There isn't many Swiss! (Except for a few like Philippe Dufour, David Candaux, Andreas Strehler or Antoine Preziuso...) Hans Wilsdorf founded Rolex in London, he was an Englishman of German origin... Patek was Polish and Philippe was French... Breguet was part French and founded his company in Paris... IWC was founded by F.A Jones, who was American... Jaeger was also French... Etc...etc... Basically, today as yesterday, Switzerland is stable place to be! I'm a huge fan of Seiko so I can't say much here other than they are amazing in every price range! The day they open a flagship store in Geneva, I'll quite whatever I'm doing and work for them with pleasure! Lange is probably one of the best brands money can buy at the moment however, bare in mind that it is owned by Richemont (just as you guys!) and the only reason why things are going nicely for them is because they are far from Geneva! Know what I mean? 😅

the Credor design is soo frickin interesting

Ok, credor. Ok. That's a pretty solid flex.

The Credor dial is beautiful but the movement is obviously mostly machine-finished, it doesn't hold up under macro the way the Lange does.

And then comes the several Swiss independent watchmaker like Jean Daniel Nicolas(or Daniel Roth) that surpasses both Credor and Lange. And yes, it goes both ways with Independent Japanese, German, English and Dutch watchmakers.

@patrickbrcr

3 жыл бұрын

This is one of the reasons it's difficult to compare watchmakers at that level. If one thinks Patek is the best manufacturer out there, it's a given that the person is not comparing Patek to Andreas Strehler, Greubel Forsey, or Philippe Dufour.

That Credor looked like the texture of Jupiter's surface. Very nice dial detail.

Credor missed the opportunity to make the rear case threads so that the screws lined up in a circular pattern, like the Royal Oak front bolts.

I'd be really interested to see Andrew do more videos about Credor! Vintage Credor watches can be obtained for relatively little money, but I really haven't got a clue on their quality. Anyone have some input on this?

2 of the most amazing watch companies

Love your channel! Nice stalker voice over!

I have been into watches for prob about 10 years years now, and have known about the major players for prob twice that time. In that time i learned of A. Lange & Söhne and Glashutte. The Swiss have long since lost their "dominance", even before this speck of a human and his love of watches came on to the stage. Having said that i wouldn't kick a Patek Philippe out of bed if you know what I mean!

Magnificent

"This makes da Vinci's work look like a bus station billboard", You should copyright some of your wonderful proverbs!

@lndyrd

3 жыл бұрын

Well I have seen the Mona Lisa on bus station billboards several times - as museum ads

nice video

Love my Grand Seikos and Sinns.

That is a very sneaky Seiko.

The credor dial is no joke.Close up almost look like a surface of some planet.

Amazing

The Credor dial looks like jupiter