Luxury Watch Brands People Love To Hate On But Should They? (Hublot, Rolex, Panerai)

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In this video, we’ll take an objective look at some luxury watch brands out there in the industry that tend to get more hate from enthusiasts than other brands. The point of a video like this isn’t to dunk on brands, but rather to provide a case study of the type of brand and consumer behavior that creates this type of climate around certain watchmakers. Do you agree with my takes? How do you feel about these brands?
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0:00 - Intro & Organization
1:20 - Hublot
5:28 - Rolex
10:23 - Panerai
14:28 - Shinola

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  • @shubhank20
    @shubhank20 Жыл бұрын

    Hey teddy i'm 17 and just got my first mechanical watch. I look at it everyday and feel so happy.

  • @TeddyBaldassarre

    @TeddyBaldassarre

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s fantastic! Enjoy it and thank you for watching!

  • @kingadjust354

    @kingadjust354

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy birthday! 🎉🎉🎉 What kind of watch did you get? 😎👍

  • @feisty8

    @feisty8

    Жыл бұрын

    i'm 117 and still haven't got my 1st Mechanical watch 😢 .. fml 😭 ......... 😂

  • @juniorjohnson5961

    @juniorjohnson5961

    Жыл бұрын

    What watch did you buy ?

  • @kingadjust354

    @kingadjust354

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mono_log_ which watch did you get 😎👍

  • @hiratiomasterson4009
    @hiratiomasterson4009 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate Rolex for what it used to be in the 1990s when I first got mine: a tough, well made, accurate and reliable tool watch that had a bit of status, but nothing too flashy. Just simple, understated quality. That you could go into any jeweller in New York, Copenhagen, London, Sydney or Hong Kong and get - at worst - at retail and quite likely a 20% discount. But a combination of brilliant Rolex marketing, increasing wealth throughout the world and clearly not too great increase in Rolex production numbers has seen us land where we have been for the past ~15 years...

  • @lukespector5550

    @lukespector5550

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @LegatoStudios
    @LegatoStudios Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, I'm not sure what I would have don't without this channel. It has completely opened me up to a new hobby. Over the last year I've amassed a watch collection I'm very proud of. Thank you for inspiring new young collectors like me!

  • @SuLu_B
    @SuLu_B10 ай бұрын

    Buying a Hublot with a $200 movement inside is like buying a Lamborghini with a Toyota Corolla engine in it. You're insane and a fool if you spend your money that way, regardless of how much you have.

  • @walroz87
    @walroz87 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy that Teddy spends time on these subjects and not just the latest hot movements - it really is food for thought and I love it thank you Teddy!

  • @jugglingdrummer
    @jugglingdrummer Жыл бұрын

    If Hublot had all the visible screws in their watches aligned symmetrically and / or orderly, it would help their reputation and image tremendously

  • @gorillawear1065

    @gorillawear1065

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is they are actually screws. AP has fake ones.

  • @jordanbell4420

    @jordanbell4420

    Жыл бұрын

    The finishing isn't great, and I've heard stories of the inside of the crystal in Big Bangs getting condensation when worn in the rain.

  • @chancebanana

    @chancebanana

    Жыл бұрын

    why would you want the screws aligned... i mean do you even know it is inspired by porthole. even ap royal do not have aligned screws(check the caseback before you scream...)

  • @TheBogards

    @TheBogards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jordanbell4420 total bullshit, I own two and wear them in the ocean all the time.

  • @chojinnppp

    @chojinnppp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chancebanana These people have never seen a porthole. If Nico is foaming at the mouth about something, it must be true.

  • @Spectraevil
    @Spectraevil Жыл бұрын

    50% of the Hublot hatred in the world is because of Nico Leonard 😐

  • @sonnymorgan4680

    @sonnymorgan4680

    Жыл бұрын

    And 100% of it is because those people never had a Hublot on their wrist for a while.

  • @ohbennyboy

    @ohbennyboy

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate hublot cause their screws don't line up and some of their watch cases have plastic in them

  • @Spectraevil

    @Spectraevil

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ohbennyboy Thats not a Hublot specific thing. Most of the brands have this. In Cartier watches screws don't line up as well, yet it is considered a class brand. In a lot of rolex watches crown is not symmetrical, it is in a tilted state, yet Rolex is Rolex. There r a lot of reasons to hate Hublot but these r not the ones as these issues r with most of the companies.

  • @Rauz11

    @Rauz11

    Жыл бұрын

    No. 100% of hublot shit watches created nico

  • @BigfootUnibrowMan

    @BigfootUnibrowMan

    Жыл бұрын

    Hublot passes off cheaper movements you can get in much cheaper watches as something special. Then they just have guady af designs.

  • @herbmerced7780
    @herbmerced7780 Жыл бұрын

    Side note- when I went to Las Vegas a few months ago…the Hublot AD was the nicest staff…showed me anything I wanted to try on….the guy was a watch guy…some of there pieces were surprisingly very beautiful….

  • @meyersylvain8888

    @meyersylvain8888

    Жыл бұрын

    Idem à Genève ou à Cannes. Ont est toujours super bien reçu dans une boutique Hublot. Et toujours beaucoup de choix si on veut prendre une montre le jour même.... essayez dans une boutique rolex...

  • @Number_006
    @Number_006 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent points Teddy, appreciate your comments about Rolex‘s lack of transparency. 👏🏽

  • @laurencehogg6010
    @laurencehogg6010 Жыл бұрын

    Every point hits the mark; your grasp of these issues and your willingness to address them so candidly speaks very well to your character. But this is all now - I'd love to hear your thoughts on the next 5-10 years.

  • @alexclemente9233
    @alexclemente9233 Жыл бұрын

    beautiful presentation😊 simple, honest and straight forward

  • @rudiausbuddeln
    @rudiausbuddeln Жыл бұрын

    big marketing problem for me are the 2022 wearers of rolex (influencers, investors, shady people in general).

  • @phoenix5054

    @phoenix5054

    Жыл бұрын

    Investor is now a negative term? I do agree on the last part though. If someone is selling a quick rich scheme, he'd be wearing a Rolex as social proof of his "success".

  • @rudiausbuddeln

    @rudiausbuddeln

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phoenix5054 not investors in general but people that buy a rolex just by investment thoughts. i agree on you though, the quick rich wearers repell me a lot too.

  • @gwaddles
    @gwaddles Жыл бұрын

    The issue with Shinola is that it was affordable. Most people who live and work in Detroit could not afford anything they offer other than maybe the leather baseball. They should have an affordable brand that the working person can afford., Shinola meant quality and affordability back in the day. Today it represents the gentrifier, the outsider and developer who doesn’t live in the city but exploits it.

  • @Thepackman1997

    @Thepackman1997

    Жыл бұрын

    BOOM!

  • @vincent67239

    @vincent67239

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation and breakdown of this.

  • @joseherrera8489

    @joseherrera8489

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, I went into a store the other day and wanted to get a nato strap. $80!!

  • @vincent67239

    @vincent67239

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joseherrera8489 At first, I was like, “$80 doesn’t sound too bad…” And then I remembered we’re talking about Shinola here

  • @rusher38

    @rusher38

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincent67239 Haven't tried their nato straps, but their leather quality is far better than the majority of the brands out there.

  • @marcgras9064
    @marcgras9064 Жыл бұрын

    About Rolex and innovation I would say what I saw on other leading brands in other segments. They usually fail when trying to innovate because of their own huge heritage. It is not they do things wrong. Customers expect from them exactly what they do like a Fender stratocaster or a Rolex daytona. Love your content by the way Teddy. Great job.

  • @LNatureblush
    @LNatureblush Жыл бұрын

    Fun video and very insightful. Love!

  • @wangox
    @wangox Жыл бұрын

    I pretty much agree with all you points. Great video as always

  • @gilean6179
    @gilean6179 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful video. thank you for this.

  • @bbrebozo6417
    @bbrebozo6417 Жыл бұрын

    You could’ve called it “when marketing ruins a brand”. All three brands with a perception problem put all their eggs in the marketing basket. Hublot did it too early, Panerai reach it’s pinacle and fell down to earth unable to get past the image and Rolex is up in the high atmosphere waiting for the fall (gonna make the biggest crater when it hits the ground). All three brands attract customers with socially unsavory traits. It’s very hard to escape that trap after you fall into it.

  • @omarion07

    @omarion07

    Жыл бұрын

    Mate you’ve no clue what you’re talking about.. Rolex made and continue to make some of the most collectible and sought after pieces that attract the most established of watch collectors out there… just look at how much some of the vintage models fetch at watch auctions. All brands rely on marketing but marketing can only get you so far if your product and how it’s presented aren’t solid enough. Rolex been on top long before this madness started and it’s not going to bulge.. wishful thinking on your part.

  • @JTMarlin8

    @JTMarlin8

    Жыл бұрын

    Rolex absolutely will not crash and burn. The very thing that watch wannabes have beern criticizing Rolex for (not increasing production on their stainless watches) is what's paying off for them now, even as the grey market takes a tumble.

  • @dr.kevinmoore8889

    @dr.kevinmoore8889

    Күн бұрын

    Unsavory traits? Like being judgmental and being bigoted

  • @daintiestquarters3411
    @daintiestquarters3411 Жыл бұрын

    This is very helpful. Thanks!!!!

  • @michaelhargis7036
    @michaelhargis7036 Жыл бұрын

    I'm the proud owner of the INVICTA Pro Diver. It is in my regular wrist time rotation. Even as "cheesy" as it is, I love it.

  • @1stGenCRXs
    @1stGenCRXs Жыл бұрын

    I picked up two Shinola watches, one for me and one for the Mrs, over 5 years ago. They were in a Nordstrom Rack store and I talked the guy into selling both to me for $300. Sticker price for these two quartz watches was over $800 at the time. We really like them, mine is a PVD squared face, and works great. I would look at places like that as you can often find them reduced in price.

  • @BudgetWatchReviews
    @BudgetWatchReviews Жыл бұрын

    Brilliantly researched as ever.

  • @statlerwaldorf7130
    @statlerwaldorf7130 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, thanks

  • @hardy3559
    @hardy3559 Жыл бұрын

    Always interesting 👏👏👏

  • @loganoftherockies9453
    @loganoftherockies9453 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! With Panerai, going down to very small amounts of WR on what are essentially iconic dive watch designs on some models, and generally what seem like cost-cutting measures, while having a watch priced well above the Omega range, is one that's turned me off. With Rolex, yeah, everything you already said, and just what flex culture has done with Rolex, and how Rolex has *handled* their well-earned success with what feels like less than, well, class, and honesty...as much respect as I've had for Rolex historically, and as much as I love some of their watches, for now, they've really soured on me.

  • @JeromyTimmer
    @JeromyTimmer Жыл бұрын

    I love my Shinola Runwell. It looks great and runs well :) I'm from Michigan and appreciate that they employ something like 400 people in Detroit regardless of what their marketing issues may have been. Also they have a couple of outlet stores where you can find some great values. I'm sure someone will have a problem with that, but it is one way to cater to the more price conscious and get good watches onto more wrists.

  • @kevinkant6817

    @kevinkant6817

    9 ай бұрын

    They make shoe polish

  • @vitas75

    @vitas75

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm not American, and I don't care where a watch is made in, so i dont really care about any controversy. Thing is, other watches in the price range are either bad or ugly for the most part. Runwell has a simple but elegant design, it runs well, and is reasonably sturdy, that's why I love it.

  • @dstjoe
    @dstjoe Жыл бұрын

    Hi Teddy I really like your videos because you share your perspective instead of just stating the specs. Can you please do a video to discuss the popularity of Rolex and the hype that is causing an increase in watch robberies across the US, especially in California? I feel like many people work hard to own a Rolex but then realized how dangerous it is to wear them in public. The watch then just gets stored to keep safe. What are your thoughts about wearing luxury watch in public in the current climate? I know many people who owns a Rolex but won't wear them because of fear for their safety. Thanks

  • @MakerInMotion
    @MakerInMotion Жыл бұрын

    For the same reasons people hate Hublot, they should also hate Richard Mille.

  • @LiamGCErskine
    @LiamGCErskine Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, Love the vid mate. What watch do you have on your wrist in this video?

  • @LuckyJack99
    @LuckyJack99 Жыл бұрын

    Well done Teddy - balanced and delivered with reason.

  • @coffeyallday
    @coffeyallday Жыл бұрын

    Lots of pro golfers have watch deals and the two that Hublot endorses (Dustin Johnson and Patrick Reed) both bolted to the Liv Tour. I feel like that's very on brand.

  • @omarion07
    @omarion07 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with most of the points Teddy mentioned on why some people love to hate on Rolex but here’s my take on it: 1- Frustration from not being able to get a Rolex at retail within a short period of time. This then turns into bitterness towards Rolex, and jealousy from those who were able to buy one. 2- People being fed up with whole flexing and hype culture, and speculators who only care about investment value . Rolex is not the only brand that suffer from this, PP and AP are in this camp as well. But because Rolex watches represent over 90% of the above, they get the most hate. 3- Childish fanboys of other watch brands that envy the success and hype surrounding Rolex. So they click on every article or video that has “Rolex” in it’s thumbnail and start spewing hatred in the comments section. Some Omega and GS fanboys are particularly guilty of that. Other examples of this childish fanboyism are Apple vs Android and Playstation vs Xbox. 4- The too cool for school/indie type of people who like to be different and therefore hate anything mainstream. Rolex will probably be their main target for hating. On the other, you’ll rarely find an established and long term watch collector/lover who doesn’t admire and respect the history, achievements and success of Rolex.

  • @Nefville
    @Nefville Жыл бұрын

    We need more videos/ places where we can talk about things we don't like in watches but in a constructive way. Being overly positive all the time is maddening. I was in a stream last night dedicated to that, on purpose, as an objection to toxic positivity. That's a new phrase for me but the concept really hits the nail on the head, especially in these times. We're people, we have opinions and some are negative. I see no reason why we can't share them too, if done respectfully.

  • @juanvacca1759
    @juanvacca1759 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @Javi_C
    @Javi_C Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Teddy!

  • @joshs3916
    @joshs3916 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Love my 16610. The ad games really should stop. Either way. Great points made

  • @threefive2072
    @threefive2072 Жыл бұрын

    like the stache teddy, keep it coming :)

  • @theonlyredspecial
    @theonlyredspecial Жыл бұрын

    ‘As humans we tend to like the negative ‘. Well said. I’ve never seen so much anger and hatred in the comments for many watch videos on KZread. It’s staggering.

  • @ToyotaWorld
    @ToyotaWorld Жыл бұрын

    Need help. I’m deciding between Tudor black bay 41mm or Panerai 1084. I know two diff watches but my fear is Panerai too much bling and will get damaged easily

  • @SAJEEVKARAYIL
    @SAJEEVKARAYIL Жыл бұрын

    Hey Teddy, really enjoy your videos and I know lots of effort you put into each video on your channel. By the way, which brand on your wrist in this video? Omega Diver 300? or Tudor?

  • @dmofficial_markiplier1onte267

    @dmofficial_markiplier1onte267

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @DOGn69

    @DOGn69

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe a Tudor BB58 in blue... But not sure. Please tell us, Teddy!

  • @lajaydavie4004
    @lajaydavie4004 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do a full review on Fossil Group watches? I recently started looking into the brand last year and just want to get your take on Fossil.

  • @Vv20vV
    @Vv20vV Жыл бұрын

    Looking at the background reminds me you’re from Cleveland Ohio & it being Lake Erie. When will we see some diving videos reviewing divers watches? Just curious & just a thought. I’m West of you in Lorain Ohio right on the lake like you. I know it’s not your typical style of reviewing watches, but I think it’ll make your channel grow even more when involving the Lake. As you & I both know, Lake Erie is one of the main attractions of our areas. Would be awesome to include it with your channel. Take care Teddy!

  • @purangesmith9053
    @purangesmith9053 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve had a panerai 1940 for about 8years, love the design, movement is nothing special and you could get it in 43mm, which I did. Now they do a great looking green dial but not in a “smaller” case, then I saw their prices! Wow almost double what I paid. So I won’t be swopping. They’d sell more by offering 40-42mm cases across different models but the price would need to be realistic too.

  • @ivanharlokin

    @ivanharlokin

    Жыл бұрын

    When it comes to luxury products, dropping the price often doesn't 'help' the brand. I think they need to re-emphasise their quality, and be more attentive to what their fans want.... that and realise that their Due line was a huge mistake.

  • @classyjuanito
    @classyjuanito Жыл бұрын

    Teddy what are you thoughts on Ingersoll watches? Are they part of this list? I don't hear much about them on KZread.

  • @bipennate
    @bipennate Жыл бұрын

    I think that it might be interesting to see the opposite side of the coin, a video on what you believe are the top 3-5 brands universally *loved* and why you think they receive such acclaim and are held in high-esteem!

  • @tomtech1537

    @tomtech1537

    2 ай бұрын

    Richard Mille anyone? xD

  • @scottbrandon6244
    @scottbrandon6244 Жыл бұрын

    Atmos clocks at 1:19. Great clocks but highly temperamental. You can shop around for deals on older models.

  • @markus9748
    @markus9748 Жыл бұрын

    This Video was extremely entertaining

  • @vijayjitvirk7496
    @vijayjitvirk7496 Жыл бұрын

    good stuff man

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    @dmofficial_markiplier1onte267

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @nicholasboyle3291
    @nicholasboyle3291 Жыл бұрын

    Hey teddy I’m looking for a new watch, and I’m considering a stuhrling watch and I want your opinion on the company

  • @edsonferreira2649
    @edsonferreira2649 Жыл бұрын

    Excent post Teddy! Abraços from Brazil!

  • @bbrebozo6417
    @bbrebozo6417 Жыл бұрын

    The role of marketing in attracting customers that give a brand its image can’t be underestimated. The brand ambassadors are less significant than the impression that existing customers might have other potential customers. How some watch enthusiasts will always say seeing a Rolex on someone’s wrist is not a sign that wearer isn’t a fellow watch enthusiast. Same for Hubot, footballers people with more money than knowledge. Panerai, muscle men of the 90s making superhero movies with out the costumes.

  • @petercharron3268
    @petercharron3268 Жыл бұрын

    Shinola can be found in department stores outside the US. Was just in Hamburg and the store had a big Shinola display.

  • @jberczi6
    @jberczi6 Жыл бұрын

    Hublot, imo, makes nice watches, but they are just way, way overpriced. I think if they were priced near Rolex (retail) / Omega, they'd be quite well liked.

  • @burakcangur3407

    @burakcangur3407

    Жыл бұрын

    İt would still be too much but ı agree a price cut would be very nice

  • @burakcangur3407

    @burakcangur3407

    Жыл бұрын

    İt would still be too much for some models but ı agree a price cut would be very nice

  • @Chaotic_Neutral76
    @Chaotic_Neutral76 Жыл бұрын

    Being from MI I’ve always wanted to pick up a watch made in my state, but Shinola wanting 800 for a quartz watch nixed that. Detroit watch co. Has some nice designs and uses Swiss movements but at their price points I’m almost better off buying an actual Swiss Made watch. Detroit Mint makes affordable watches but their styling is hit and miss for me.

  • @Infinity6180
    @Infinity61802 ай бұрын

    Just ordered my 1st Panerai Luminor 44mm . Proud to be a member of the exclusive Paneristi club !!! Unique, well built and classy. I'm sure it will look good on my 7.5inch wrist !!! Chunky yet oozes class !

  • @tomtech1537

    @tomtech1537

    2 ай бұрын

    GMT? Love my sunburst dial. Regularly get comments about mine. I can't see myself buying another panerai, but happy I did.

  • @thierry1491
    @thierry14918 ай бұрын

    I have never been a fan of Panerai until they launched their 40mm series. Plus they have the quick strap release which quickly allows you to change strap and style. I am seriously considering getting one( Luminor 40m with P.900). Not too sure about what is wrong with the movement as it seems people are complaining about it. Any idea?

  • @jnotlog7040
    @jnotlog7040 Жыл бұрын

    You just reminded me of a great night out at Peabody's Down Under many years ago.

  • @willdau
    @willdau Жыл бұрын

    I don't really know anyone who hates Rolex. Most seem to hate the insane hype for mass produced items in a market with plenty of competition.

  • @Salikaan

    @Salikaan

    Жыл бұрын

    That's how I see it I think folks hate the availability and the prices in the secondary market which are indeed nuts. Rolex watches are great at retail prices or even perhaps for some with a small markup but the current availability and prices are frustrating to say the least.

  • @TeddyBaldassarre

    @TeddyBaldassarre

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a more involved relationship with the brand given the added factors of allocation and their reputation that transcends the category. Whenever I post about Rolex there is always comments regarding being sick of seeing them. Whether you like rolex or like they deserve respect for what they have done for the product category.

  • @HRM.H

    @HRM.H

    Жыл бұрын

    No , most people don't hate the hype. They hate the extremely toxic behaviour from AD personel , or the under the table/backdoor sales practices , or the years long purchase history based allocation system

  • @ulifluhme

    @ulifluhme

    Жыл бұрын

    Hate is a too strong word but I wouldn’t wear one for free. Just don’t like the look of any of their models.

  • @garyboyle695

    @garyboyle695

    Жыл бұрын

    I dislike Rolex for the very misleading marketing claims they've made over the years, we made the first waterproof watch, no you didn't, we created the first automatic movement, no you didn't, each watch takes a year to make, no they don't, I could go on and on. Let's not forget Rolex never made a single watch, just assembling third party parts until they bought these sub contractors.

  • @danielday7033
    @danielday7033 Жыл бұрын

    Agreed with this segment. I'll stick with my Hamiltons, Seikos, and Glycine brand collections. They don't cost much, but make a great product.. However, I do see a Fortis, Brew, and Dan Henry watch coming soon. When I retire from the military, I will get a Grand Seiko. 🤙

  • @kayvahn91
    @kayvahn91 Жыл бұрын

    Completely agree with the fourth point of why people dislike Rolex. Sure, Rolex sells a ton of watches right now, but what about 10 or 30 years from now? There might be a point where people grow tired of the models. Pattek knew this and made the decision the discontinue the Nautilus, before the bubble bursted

  • @emilshteyngarts
    @emilshteyngarts Жыл бұрын

    My first automatic watch was a preowned Hublot Big Bang 311.ci.1170.ci. I’m local if you want to do a review on it Teddy

  • @bullnose01
    @bullnose01 Жыл бұрын

    The problem that I have with Rolex is that repairs almost have to be performed by one of its authorized servicing centers because of its strict control over parts availability, and when repairs are performed they will not return the replaced parts and insist that the parts be "traded in."

  • @garyboyle695

    @garyboyle695

    Жыл бұрын

    They will also probably replace parts that don't need replacing like the hands and dial if the lume is gone, rather than just re-lumbing it. Then polish it so it looks like new. Losing any patena that made the watch unique to you.

  • @AnkitThakur-jg8qh
    @AnkitThakur-jg8qh Жыл бұрын

    Definitely hate Richard Mille. The brand's watches look or feel nowhere near the prices that they sell at. Making quirky watches that are lighter than a feather doesn't make them worth charging over a million dollars.

  • @UnbiasedBoss

    @UnbiasedBoss

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a very uneducated comment to make. Opinions and not liking what it looks like is one thing, but the pure innovation and new technologies that have been introduced to the watch world by RM is staggering. Do they look good? Most don't, but RM is leading the frontier by a MILE when it comes to innovation, in movements, materials, escapement, accuracy, toughness, you name it. Not to mention they are not cheap light plastic pieces costing millions, it takes months to make an RM. All the processes, all the manufacturing, and craftsmanship add up in cost real fast.

  • @AnkitThakur-jg8qh

    @AnkitThakur-jg8qh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UnbiasedBoss I'm just expressing my personal opinion. Looks like you are promoting and defending the brand at the same time! Take a chill pill dude. I do hope you make money enough to be able to buy one of the Richard Mille watches

  • @UnbiasedBoss

    @UnbiasedBoss

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AnkitThakur-jg8qh I simply stated because you said "feel". I have been lucky enough to have spent time with the RM62-02 and they "feel" phenomenal and robust.

  • @rickyromano6659

    @rickyromano6659

    Жыл бұрын

    Things are worth what people will pay. There are nothing else out there like RM, and they are extremely rare. Around 3,000 pieces per year total. It's cool if you don't like them, or understand them. I prefer a Patek Grand Comp, a 5172G, Celestial Sky and watches like that, but to hate them, that seems like you got some issues.

  • @AnkitThakur-jg8qh

    @AnkitThakur-jg8qh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UnbiasedBoss That's Awesome👍

  • @adrock337
    @adrock337 Жыл бұрын

    Hublot: ghetto fabulous. (Throw Richard Mille and Jacob & Co in there too) Rolex: because people who can’t get their hands on these watches at retail are haters. Panerai: ugly 😉

  • @Nintendglo
    @Nintendglo Жыл бұрын

    I wish Teddy would say what watch he’s wearing for the day for the video!

  • @Salikaan
    @Salikaan Жыл бұрын

    Do people really hate Panerai that much? I know there's some skepticism about how "in-house" their movements might really be but I don't hear much about their designs being all that crazy. I would agree their models/references is confusing but that's a lot of brands. I will agree folks hate Hublot with a passion on the watch forums I'm in, be it design and then price but not much love for that brand but clearly they're doing something right.

  • @PatricksFinanzen

    @PatricksFinanzen

    Жыл бұрын

    Well at least offering a Panerai with just 30m WR is pretty ridiculous…

  • @vianouche1

    @vianouche1

    Жыл бұрын

    And the price

  • @ollik8192

    @ollik8192

    Жыл бұрын

    Search for Panerai and Perpetual Downgrading and you'll get an idea. Many people think they make cool watches, many people think they make too big watches etc. and some people love the older models and are really disappointed about the direction of the brand.

  • @ivanharlokin

    @ivanharlokin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PatricksFinanzen Exactly. It would be fine in a dress watch, but it is styled like a diver. What makes it worse is that they claim it's to keep the watch thin, and yet the Radiomir 574 (which I'm currently wearing) has 100m WR and is only 0.5mm thicker.... baffling

  • @Salikaan

    @Salikaan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ollik8192 Eh there's plenty of other watch makers out there making watches that are too big lol. Hublot or even some of the Omega Planet Oceans come to mind. I can see the disappointment in the movements and of course yes Panerai hasn't released anything recently where i've seen folks or fans of the brand cheer.

  • @midnightpurplerain1099
    @midnightpurplerain1099 Жыл бұрын

    On Shinola, I really like their look and being from Michigan, I don’t mind supporting jobs in my state (even if they’re a tad pricey for what you get). Honestly, the questionable marketing is less of a gripe for me than how much they lean into the 47mm sizing. I’m a tall guy with about a 7.5” wrist, so they don’t look awkward on me, but I’m the minority…

  • @justwise88
    @justwise88 Жыл бұрын

    Great Insight on this one. I’m not too worried about Rolex’s availability as long as I can get a Tudor without too many issues but I just love their designs more personally. Being from Chicago I truly feel Astor+ Banks represents a much better option from an midwestern manufacturer then Shinola. Cheers!

  • @marcusedcofficial

    @marcusedcofficial

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly how I feel about Monta being from St Louis. Cheers!

  • @joseherrera8489

    @joseherrera8489

    Жыл бұрын

    Too bad they have no watch you can currently purchase. They're all either sold out or pre-orders.

  • @rudiausbuddeln

    @rudiausbuddeln

    Жыл бұрын

    i dont really understand how people can be happy to pay 3-4k for a watch that is obiously the second-rate Rolex. I do not mean that because of the brand Tudor but the features and workmanship.

  • @PBrown-mg4wy

    @PBrown-mg4wy

    Жыл бұрын

    From Chicago too and Astor + Banks is high on my list of watches to buy once I graduate from school!

  • @dylanbabushkin6023

    @dylanbabushkin6023

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rudiausbuddeln I’d imagine because it’s made with amazing craftsmanship as well as in-house production calibers

  • @zGraeme
    @zGraeme Жыл бұрын

    Hey teddy just recently discovered your channel and I’m thinking about buying my first proper watch soon but need advice from you or anyone in the comments. I want a nice diver watch for going out and everyday wear. Budget anything under £500. I normally wear a lot of black/grey/whites etc so anything that will go with that would be great. From your videos I really like the seiko 5/ seiko presage cocktail time/Laurient bambino(for dress occasions)/and a lot of watches I cannot afford lol. Any help from anyone would be appreciated :)

  • @morrel99

    @morrel99

    Жыл бұрын

    I think if you go to his dealer website you can schedule a consultation.

  • @jnotlog7040
    @jnotlog7040 Жыл бұрын

    I really like Shinola designs, but the prices like you said.

  • @chateaubullion2560
    @chateaubullion2560 Жыл бұрын

    When I see Hublot watches I see Invicta except Hublot costs 500 times more.

  • @cMaXeJIJIo
    @cMaXeJIJIo Жыл бұрын

    I may not have heard of the brand, but I have definitely heard the expression of "not being able to tell shit from Shinola" 😂

  • @pittwm
    @pittwm Жыл бұрын

    I was looking to buy a 126330/blue/oyster steel. I first wanted to get from AD, after talking to a few AD. I gave up bc 1. The nearest AD is in St Louis which is 2 1/2 drive one way. After talking to them, they kindly refused to sit down with me to talk about getting a watch. They said I have to buy from AD from my state,in Louisville, which is 3 plus hours driving. Buying a Rolex from AD now takes at least two trips. I gave up the idea and ended up buying from EBay professional dealer, at a 3k markup but I was okay with that after all things considered.

  • @hugohernandez3651
    @hugohernandez3651 Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing video. I am very familiar with watches from 3 of the brands mentioned in the video..🤣. I absolutely love Rolex and since I have a good and long relationship with the AD, I have been able to get the models I wanted. I just got my first Panerai and I love it because people that are not familiar with watches barely recognize the brand. They are different from everything else.. My 15 years old has a Shinola that got from his grandfather. The kid wears the watch everywhere, and that watch has taken an insane amount of abuse. It still works and looks great. Let the haters hate. 😁.

  • @joshs3916

    @joshs3916

    Жыл бұрын

    Which Panerai Ref did you buy? Anything you wish they would change? Love the unique look of the case,

  • @hugohernandez3651

    @hugohernandez3651

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshs3916 Pam 1314. Luminor Marina White dial. My only complaint is that you can't hack the movement, but other than that I love the watch.

  • @joshs3916

    @joshs3916

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hugohernandez3651 They hopefully will add hacking later on fingers crossed

  • @levarbaker908
    @levarbaker908 Жыл бұрын

    #2 for Panerai is the same for Stowa, IWC, Lange, and Laco correct? I never heard of people having issues from them for the same reason. In fact, it seems that the connection is a selling point. I bought a Laco from you, and considered the history but was ok with it.

  • @LannyGood
    @LannyGood Жыл бұрын

    You’re from Cleveland me too :)

  • @ardentdfender4116
    @ardentdfender4116 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly don't know enough about any particular watch brand to hate any of them. Other than the brands i see celebrities wear of which James Bond be the most familiar in my mind with Omega, i can't honestly list a watch brand that's not tied to some famous celebrity. Thus i can't say i know any other really and can't hate on any. Barely own two watches for under $150 and at least their time keeping seems accurate. Just here to learn a thing or two to help me understand an accessory piece I should at least know more about.

  • @thomasmatthew7759
    @thomasmatthew7759 Жыл бұрын

    Panaristi is already plural. No need to pluralize again. Sorry to nitpick, but those are great points why people stray from the brand.

  • @ahha6304
    @ahha6304 Жыл бұрын

    Rolex : no Panerai : no comment Hublot : ask Richard Mille

  • @jacobbwalters8133
    @jacobbwalters8133 Жыл бұрын

    I think all the hate on Shinola is misplaced- they were essentially a micro brand originally when they began selling the quartz watches. Today they offer a wider range of automatic options. I also think their pricing is reasonable for what they offer (similar to some of Longines lower priced offerings). I think the problem is with people that don’t appreciate the Detroit tie in. If Detroit assembly is important to you, Shinola makes sense. If it isn’t, Shinola does not. I am from Michigan and I feel it’s fair to say that Shinola has become the go to entry luxury brand for the upper-middle class working professional. I often see Shinola watches on the wrists of local doctors, university professors, and mid-level managers.

  • @RocasThePenguin
    @RocasThePenguin Жыл бұрын

    Such a different sort of hate. I don't respect Hublot as a watchmaker, but I do respect Rolex to a massive degree. How can you not? They have done so much for the industry. I do, however, hate everything that surrounds the brand. The product shortage, the ADs, the inflated prices, the aura of the brand, the followers of the brand (e.g., r/Rolex), etc. This is a brand that seems to bring out the worst in watch buying.

  • @r0bert1p
    @r0bert1p8 ай бұрын

    I own three Shinolas. I almost owned a fourth, but returned it due to lack of QC. Here's my beef: I purchased a Black Blizzard which came with a black bezel and numbered in white. Within a few months of daily wear the numbers were rubbing off, and had rubbed off completely within 6 months. I have an office job. I'm not banging my knuckles every day. On the other hand, my Smokey Bear and White Hurricane are great watches. I sent back the Forged Carbon Monster in February this year because it looked like a return (the box had a graphic torn off, the watch was crookedly jammed in the presentation box, the strap looked like it had been worn). I love the story of providing jobs and training to Detroit workers, but I no longer have confidence they are providing quality, so much so that I started looking to see whether the company had been purchased or had a management change.

  • @johnlacroix1639
    @johnlacroix1639 Жыл бұрын

    TY,,,,,,WOW incredible very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.

  • @brandon.skates
    @brandon.skates Жыл бұрын

    Are you wearing a tudor black bay in this video?

  • @JamesK1963
    @JamesK1963 Жыл бұрын

    Surprised Tag Heuer wasn't mentioned. They get a ton of hate on KZread, social media and watch forums.

  • @agill2103
    @agill2103 Жыл бұрын

    And i just bought a Panerai yesterday. Lovin it...

  • @Bredes1

    @Bredes1

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats😁wich one did you get?

  • @agill2103

    @agill2103

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy, its luminor Pam1316...

  • @ivanharlokin

    @ivanharlokin

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats. I'm watching this wearing my Radiomir 574.

  • @agill2103

    @agill2103

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ivanharlokin Nice One....

  • @TheBelse
    @TheBelse Жыл бұрын

    i want a deep sea ...i enter some online competitions and dream on. maybe one day ...Marathon next. interesting to hear your thoughts on the naked watchmaker collab ..a perpetual calendar for something in the region of 10k.

  • @TheBelse

    @TheBelse

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm buying a phone soon Teddy, for my new job. ...best knowledge and review on the net. Loved the Watchfinder and Co interview ..the best two on the net for me. that kid has such a great way with words ...very eloquent in his descriptions. Big love and thank you again.

  • @justreallybored6014
    @justreallybored6014 Жыл бұрын

    True, over-marketing can and is usually a bad thing.

  • @thetruebatman4632
    @thetruebatman4632 Жыл бұрын

    I want to like Shinola so bad but I read a comment someone wrote about them a while back that I just can’t get out of my head that said “Shinola makes some of the best $200 watches out there; they just don’t cost $200” 😂 I do like their new divers though, i’ll wait to see what the consensus of them is.

  • @Ixorpehc
    @Ixorpehc Жыл бұрын

    Rolex is arguably the same quality as Omega, but gets a lot of hate because it rides on brand power and elitist showmanship to justify the great price difference. The fact that availability is lousy and people get miffed over the endless waiting lists and mediocre AD experience definitely adds to gas to the fire.

  • @juris4564
    @juris4564 Жыл бұрын

    I really hope this comment doesn’t come across as me telling you how to run your channel, but I’d love to see you mention in the bio which watch you’re wearing for the vid. Whatever you have on now looks awesome (too much of a noob to recognize).

  • @Nonixification
    @Nonixification Жыл бұрын

    8:26 Rolex "Daytona": Let me market it with Abu Dhabi circuit. LOL

  • @siblej1
    @siblej1 Жыл бұрын

    Rolex makes 1,000,000 watches a year, yet none are getting to ADs. Something is rotten in Denmark….or Switzerland I should say.

  • @olivierdaoust8716
    @olivierdaoust8716Ай бұрын

    Can you make a video about invicta watches

  • @nayankadavala6484
    @nayankadavala6484 Жыл бұрын

    What will be the future of hologram or nft watch 🤩 .... plz share it ... I see futuristic shape changing 3d watch on "3dtime" collection of Opensea ...

  • @jhrodriguez08
    @jhrodriguez08 Жыл бұрын

    Rolex takes the approach of Porsche with the 911, evolution instead of revolution, refine and polish what people already like, if it’s done correctly it just works…

  • @kingadjust354

    @kingadjust354

    Жыл бұрын

    Rolex is overpriced shit

  • @ThoR52

    @ThoR52

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you sure that’s an appropriate comparison ? A 992 GT3 for exemple is order of magnitude better than say a 997, in a relatively short amount of time. Can you say the same for any Rolex model ?

  • @jhrodriguez08

    @jhrodriguez08

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThoR52 I’m a 981 cayman GT4 owner and there still are hallmarks from early Porsche days , ignition on the left side, the flat six engine, center tachometer etc.

  • @kingadjust354

    @kingadjust354

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jhrodriguez08 damn that's a nice car how many bitches do you pick up in that car 😎👍

  • @douglasdunlap7822
    @douglasdunlap7822 Жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid in the 50’s - 60’s in Cleveland, OH, a popular saying back then was “You don’t know sh*t from Shinola.” So, because of this association I could never own a Shinola watch.

  • @hargoniyamaki5168
    @hargoniyamaki51686 ай бұрын

    My 2 Shinola watches were $170USD for a Detrola and $266 USD for a Runwell. I am uncertain why price would be an objection as their third tier of hate, but maybe few people shop as smartly as I do. Still, regardless of your feelings about marketing and patriotism, as a former Detroit resident I am very happy to have these two watches in my collection. If you want a watch to hate based on price, look no further than an Omega Speedmaster Professional Moon Watch, which is manual wind well over $10k CAD where I now live and needs a $600 service roughly every 48 months unless you don’t care what time it is.

  • @paulhopkins1905
    @paulhopkins1905 Жыл бұрын

    You forgot that Hublot charges Rolex prices for off the shelf ETA movements

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    @dmofficial_markiplier1onte267

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @zornikzornuk3187
    @zornikzornuk3187 Жыл бұрын

    Nail perfectly the Rolex case, a question why Rolex (and the others) does not align their prices to second and gray market? thank for the video

  • @zornikzornuk3187

    @zornikzornuk3187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@attila2246 thank for your answer

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