One thing I know is that NOBODY hates Seiko and Casio.

@Unborn8436

4 жыл бұрын

A lot hate Seiko especially those who went straight to Swiss

@lavasurfer22

4 жыл бұрын

I think I am about to receive some hate but I can't stand Seiko or Casio. I use to like Casio before the world of watches opened up to me. They do keep good time and Casio is very durable but despite them being well made, they look and often feel cheap and ugly (my opinion). My first bought watch was a Casio. I loved it at the time until I realized how very easily the watch got scratched. I expected much more for a $100 watch. I have a $60 Invicta that is more than twice the watch my Casio was. I'm not a big Invicta fan but if you know how to buy them, they are excellent quality for the price.

@sebsebseb1905

4 жыл бұрын

I do :D

@veg7nlif376

4 жыл бұрын

@@sebsebseb1905 I know, its because you are nobody. just kiding.

@sebsebseb1905

4 жыл бұрын

@@veg7nlif376 I don't care about Casio tbh, they look cheap, but when it comes to Seiko the cheap ones to me are crap quality and the expensive ones are too expensive, yes, they are great, but they are still Seiko.. GS..

DW look 100% like those unbranded watches you find at the dollar store. I can't believe people think they have premium materials, they look cheap from a mile away.

@jimbritttn

4 жыл бұрын

Timex with a Twist-o-flex band is the best...PERIOD. Only an IDIOT spends more than $50 for a watch

@MostafaElSakari

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Britt no

@noth606

4 жыл бұрын

AlbertOrnstein they are the same watches as the dollar store ones, just with a brand name and marketing added.

@kevinlambo3211

4 жыл бұрын

I like the name but thats just it

@cheesus_22

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Britt Are you drunk or just broke?

I’ve always thought of fashion “watches” more as bracelets that tell time, than wrist watches.

@khgear7160

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually a great take. Fresh and underrated, gonna start using that!

@Asymmetrization

Жыл бұрын

@@c.j.giordano2129 not quite fashion watches, closer to invictas reception

@AurelioLeon-zh5ok

Жыл бұрын

I have my eye on a diesel watch for it's iridisent dessing, but I'm not buying it until it's cheap, dirt cheap, casio F-91 cheap, so pretty much never going to buy it.

That turtleneck sweater looks great on you!

@AvoidsPikes-

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that too. Dude knows how to rock a turtleneck.

@Rohit-xc3tl

4 жыл бұрын

He is like Steve jobs

I was thinking of AlphaM’s video on why MVMT is better than Rolex the entire time I was watching the video

@Zoltan1251

5 жыл бұрын

unfortunatelly he is just greedy.... he literally does videos only for money and nothing else, he would sold his mother if it got him few bucks

@Chris-es3wf

5 жыл бұрын

I've been watching Watch videos on KZread for years, and I've never even heard of that clown.

@TeddyBaldassarre

5 жыл бұрын

LOL oh Alpha...

@Tal-wb9jn

5 жыл бұрын

A tragic video by Alpha...having said that Aaron has 4.5 million subscribers...

@shyamsundhar2901

5 жыл бұрын

Hope RMRS doesn't do any piece of shit like Alpha men

I actually hate smartwatches, just because I like to keep it simple. I don't need my Seiko to order a Pizza for me. But I saw a Samsung Gear on a coworker's wrist a few days ago, and it looks absolutely stunning. Too much hate in the watch world!

@MrPleers

5 жыл бұрын

Smartwatches are for people who are too lazy to take their smartphone out of their pockets.

@andrei-cosmin.popa85

5 жыл бұрын

Had a Huawei. It was a very useful tool for my everyday routine (calls, texts, notifications, weather). Loved the fact I had so many dial design choices. Only reason I dumped it was the poor battery life.

@andrei-cosmin.popa85

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrPleers I bet you are one of the lazy people who gave up on using fixed telephony just because it's easier to be mobile, pretty much the same way you can answer the phone with a touch (if you have a sw or Bluetooth) instead of pulling a 6 inches brick and sliding your finger across. Sarcasm

@TeddyBaldassarre

5 жыл бұрын

I think smartwatches fall in this unique subcategory in the watch world. I am not sure if we have seen the culmination of smartwatches either as I think there is much to improve. It will be interesting where the world of smartwatches goes in the next ten years because as of now I think they still swim in a different lane than wristwatches.

@MrPleers

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeddyBaldassarre I don't see them as a true watch. More like an extra cellphone screen that you can strap on your wrist.

My Invicta Pro Diver got me into watches. It was my first “real watch” and for that, I will always keep it and never sell it. But I tend to echo your sentiment. Wear what you like, it’s nobody else’s business.

@KaiserSoze679

3 жыл бұрын

Mine was my second, but otherwise very similar. It's a solid watch.

@altoids79762

3 жыл бұрын

Truth. My very first thing I ever bought with my own money was a globe limited edition g shock and I will always keep that watch

@domingoc2573

2 жыл бұрын

low key respect the Invicta pro diver because it's a lot of bang for your buck.

@UNSCPILOT

2 жыл бұрын

Ain't nothing wrong with that, my first (mechanical) watch is a Boderry Urban Skeletal watch, barely known Chinese brand, decent specs, fairly low cost. Your watches are yours, if you enjoy them, why worry what others think, the way some people act it's like if you showed them a Timex they might burst into flame from the shock

@SteelBuckeye

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Your first real watch was the one you bought after the invicta.

I have an Invicta Russian Diver that my dad bought for me when I was 16. I don't wear it much anymore but I have to say that it was the watch that got me into collecting timepieces

@nikkimiddlekillsday5161

2 жыл бұрын

My father gave me one of his extra Citizen eco-drives when I was 8, that was the very first in my collection

Next video idea: Pilots watch with an actual benefit to real pilots.

@andrei-cosmin.popa85

5 жыл бұрын

You do realize there isn't much war which involves fighter planes nowdays, not to mention the technology evolved so much they probably have an AI telling them it's time to fart, right?

@autothrust330

5 жыл бұрын

andrei-cosmin popa obviously you are not a pilot. @teddy. You get the idea right? Things in my mind would be like. Breitling emergency. Luminox. Gmt watches. Breitling navitimer. Watches with backlighting meant for pilots’ heads up display. Altitude/temperature/barometer/compass readings. Watches targeted for airline pilots, general aviation pilots, military, cargo, sport, sea planes, bush pilots, rotary. I know teddy would have more ideas than mine. Because there are so many so called “pilot watches” and yet they are only connected by heritage through an achievement set decades ago by the aviation pioneers. How about the benefits to modern pilots? Enjoy the research teddy and thank you!

@jim4990

5 жыл бұрын

@@autothrust330 well said.

@pos350zx

5 жыл бұрын

I have thought about making a video, specifically for GMT's about this very subject because I have not seen one video that accurately describes this. I work in an aircrew field and from what I have seen the Tudor GMT is best suited for this because the bezel moves in half hour increments. Where this really comes into play is if you have friends in the military, specifically Afghanistan. Since they are in between time zones they do a half hour difference, 4 1/2 hours plus UTC time. Set the GMT hand to UTC and the hour to local time, use the bezel to calculate where you are going or track another time zone, so you can figure out what to set the local time to or plan out what time you expect to land for flight planning.

@detcord1

5 жыл бұрын

Very good idea.There is a mystique to pilot's watches and some people believe that some of the qualities of the target customer will be transferred to them, and I suppose that also applies to divers and racing watches too. However, the adverts for Breitling, Bell and Ross, Sinn etc are all very emotive, but I remember seeing a Bell and Ross advert with a fighter pilot, a diver, and am EOD operator in Watches of Switzerland and laughing. The chap in the store asked what was so funny, and told him that firstly Ive been an EOD operator for over ten years and the only watch issued was the standard CWC G10 watch. Secondly, you cant read a watch in a bomb suit.

You have to admit the Movado museum watch is striking. It was never, ever a potential purchase for me because I wouldn't be able to tell the time. 😅

@danielstaystrong

8 ай бұрын

My finger has been on the purchase button for the past month now on that watch. It's simplistically beautiful

@certifiedsneaker

6 ай бұрын

Like movado...have that exact black/gold museum n gold/steel one...would never buy any of there other watches but like that simple classy look

@LoAn981blackhawk

4 ай бұрын

I’ve had my Movado dress watch since 1998 and it’s still as beautiful as when I first put it on.

In Movado’s defense, the museum dial is what brought them into the mass market. So why not run with a design that is continuously profitable? Vintage Movado is incredible, but they are known for the Museum. Their clientele appreciates the jewelry aspect of watches, which is why they’ve established a fashion brand division like Fossil. Can’t blame them for going where the money is.

@thelanphan

Жыл бұрын

My museum is an automatic and I love it. But I do get why they hate the quartz version of it

@kemit99

7 ай бұрын

I have a beautiful silver quartz Museum. Love it. Lol had it 15 years

@jdssurf

2 ай бұрын

@@thelanphanhow much do those run

I use Movado and love the look and feel. I would put them in the upper echelon of Quartz watches and that is fine with me. I like the timeless look of their museum pieces.

@tongotongo3143

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and if you wear Movado it speaks you have class and refined taste. In 1998 Movado had the same prestige like Rolex just with better taste.

Invicta started me in watch collecting. Though I have gave away/sold many of the clunkers since becoming more informed about watches in general.. I still have 3-4 models they make or made in the past that I love and will always be apart of my collection. Also they make great Pelican-Style Watch cases that are of amazing quality for the price.

I personally have always wanted a Movado, but I prefer Quartz watches overall, and I think they're gorgeous.

Teddy Bulbasaur

@muhammadfikrihilyatulaulia7403

5 жыл бұрын

Rotfl

@nee123451

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@H2H3H5

4 жыл бұрын

Loo

@mayankshankar1950

4 жыл бұрын

Lmaoooooooo

@flyingboi890

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

I recently purchased a Movado Series 800, and I think its an amazing looking watch. It caught my eye out of every other watch in the case. I think I got a decent deal on it... so there it is.

@grantflora7161

Жыл бұрын

They're Swiss made with sapphire crystal and they are beautiful. As long as you're paying a good bit below retail, I really don't see what there is to hate about Movado.

@TheBostonranger1

Жыл бұрын

I bought 2 Movado Series 800 and to be honest their great watches.

@TheTillmanSneakerReview

9 ай бұрын

@@grantflora7161 Movado is like the Mercedes Benz C350 of watches. Like Mercedes-Benz, it's a middle-class flex, overpriced for what it does but backed by an iconic brand that makes wearers look rich. Accordingly, they depreciate until about half the retail price but hold their value at that point forever...most Movado wearers buy them used or on holiday discounts, not retail.

@danieltole2679

6 ай бұрын

Series 800 got me into this. I have 2. I think it’s an underrated watch for the discounted price point it usually goes for. Really well made and comfortable to wear.

I have an Invicta Diver watch that I have in rotation for over 15 years. It's been a great piece.

I bought a Movado Bold TR90 a few years ago (black dial blue hands) and I still love the look it has. My wife does not like it but I do get compliments on it from other people. 🤔 But I do notice that no one ever reviews this brand on YT. Glad you mentioned them.

I fell into the invicta trap. They have a store on most carnival cruise ships and they definitely make you feel like you are getting a great deal

@fasterthanyou1481

3 жыл бұрын

They make you feel like ur getting a deal if ur literally brainless lol

@taz24787

6 ай бұрын

Did you have a bad experience with your purchase?

2 grand for the quartz watch @7:39?? Hell, I'd rather get a Tissot automatic at a quarter of the price, anytime....

@matthijsbusker3033

3 жыл бұрын

You deffinetly should do that if you havent already, tissot's are worth every single cent.

The Movado Museum design is personally what got me into loving watches. The minimalist design is strikingly beautiful. But I understand many don't like them. And of course, I do know that I will never actually tell time with it on. It's simply a fashion piece for me

At the Movado, for under $2k. you can get a used/vintage Cartier with the sapphire if that's really what you want.

I bought an Invicta divers 2 months ago. My colleague who loves to collect automatic watches said its a good buy. I wore it everyday after that 👍🏼😁

@aakashv2349

3 жыл бұрын

Invicta is always great 👍

@desertsoldier41

2 жыл бұрын

@@aakashv2349 Not always...actually 99% of the time its a bad bet. The 1957 Diver and the Pro Diver are ok. The rest are ghetto wrist ornaments.

@alcaponed16

2 жыл бұрын

@@aakashv2349 Pro diver is probably the only good Invicta right now. You're better off with an Orient or Seiko for around that price. Or spend a bit more money and get a nice Hamilton.

@domingoc2573

2 жыл бұрын

@@desertsoldier41 the pro diver is a badass looking watch for it's price point

Love my Movado museum. And so does most everyone that sees it. Most complemented watch I own.

@patrickbateman783

3 жыл бұрын

Art deco perfection 👌

@najjimohammad9124

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! First expensive watch I ever got back in 2015. When I got more into collecting I realized how hated it was due to the brand being sold but it didn’t phase me because it’s one of my favorite dial designs in history

@davidpugh8772

3 жыл бұрын

same i have the all stainless museum piece with 11 diamonds on the dial it was my first watch but as I've grown in collecting it's still my first watch but far from my favorite now

@carlosbeato1

3 жыл бұрын

I understand the rationale for hating Movado but the museum is classic and usually gets more attention than my Omegas & Tags. I thought about chucking it but it is a fantastic everyday watch that goes with just about any outfit. At the end, it’s about what we individually love.

@paulstabin6233

3 жыл бұрын

The museum design is still magical. One of the all time greats. It is more about paying $ 2K for a watch and Movado cheaping out on the movement, etc.

I've never bought a watch before until a few days ago and it just so happens to be a Movado watch which cost me nearly $700.I know nothing about watches so I just picked out this watch because it looked nice.

I ended up finding a simple Movado museum classic for around $150. Honestly for that price, I thought it was a great deal. I think its a very simple and clean design with good quality, but doesn’t warrant the normal $600 price tag

For all it's faults, Invicta makes a great diving watch. I've had one for years and I love it. I bought it as a cheap watch to wear at work, but ended up buying a more expensive work watch so I wouldn't damage the Invicta.

While wearing my Invicta, a dog walked up to me, stared at my watch and said, “You must be kidding!”🙁

@Tom28551

4 жыл бұрын

a talking dog? Must be some good acid involved in that exchange.

@TheCort1971

2 жыл бұрын

this got a great laugh. thanks

I own 2 Invicta watches, 1 limited Swiss and 1 automatic prodiver and I really like them. Pretty good quality, nice boxes, ok movements.

@andrei-cosmin.popa85

5 жыл бұрын

Good thing they have nice boxes you can brag about em all day every day if someone asks you what you wear

@mko3530

5 жыл бұрын

@@andrei-cosmin.popa85 Your first experience with a watch is your most valuable one, An unboxing experience is the very first one. It's important... for me at least.

@omniryx1

5 жыл бұрын

@@mko3530 A box is a box. Nothing more boring than a YT in which some guy is salivating for ten minutes over a hunk of cardboard or plastic or even wood. Open the box, remove the watch, reassemble the box and paperwork, stash it with your other boxes, wear the new watch. Period.

@MrPleers

5 жыл бұрын

I had a crap watch once. (A Fossil). The watch worked for about a year. But the box is still used years later to keep my keys.

@danav3387

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, invicta has some nice boxes with some of thier watches. When I see them for sale on CL or Letgo I try to buy them if they aren't asking too much. The are like a pelican... very tough.

Isn't it ironic how MVMT 's main value proposal is offering a lot for your money when they in fact give you so little for what you pay?

I recently decided to start getting into watch collecting. Back when I was around 13 years old, I would save up every penny and "collect" watches from generic/fashion brands, such as Fossil, Guess, Casio etc. One watch I bought on a family vacation abroad was a Movado Museum. Few years ago it stopped working. I know a lot of watch enthusiasts hate it, but today after 10 years, I got it out of the closet and got it repaired. It is not so much a collectors watch, but my soul still lights up when I look at it today and I would definitely still proudly wear it as a dress watch. I guess, because it brings me back to that childhood... who knows. All in all, thanks for this video Teddy. You have definitely got me excited about watches and can't wait to start adding to my collection. Keep up the good work!

I recently bought an Invicta Pro Dive after watching reviews and am enjoying it on its merits: decent build quality (I replaced the bracelet with a NATO) water resistance, admittedly not certified but I've seen real world tests, stainless steel construction and that Seiko movement ...my one is accurate to -2sec per 24 hours. In addition to this I am relatively blissfully unaware of their bad reputation as I am a UK buyer :-) Oh, and my one didn't have the ubiquitous MSRP price tag woven onto it.

Agreed I had started with Invicta , fell into the marketing trap. I started learning more (partly from this channel) and my tastes have changed, I will say my Invicta Grand Diver i do enjoy, but the rest ( of my Invicta collection) I'm looking to give away as gifts. I gladly ordered a Ball Hydrocarbon to start a proper collection.

@JohnnyTurnerMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Same here, my Seiko Powered Pro Diver was my gateway watch. Now have some vintage Heuer & Omega Pieces that i really enjoy.

I like Invicta, I enjoy the style and they are reasonably priced and have never failed me or ended up broken a plus especially for the price.

The other day I visited an Invicta watch store. Oh, wait. That was a claw machine game at Dave and Buster's.

I'm newly getting into watches, I'd love a part two for this. Information!

Great video as always. I've heard that Invicta has addressed the whole "Swiss made" issue. If their new watches say "Swiss made" it does meet the standards to say that. Keep up the good work!

@user-uw4qw7xg6y

Ай бұрын

Thank God someone that knows! I love the invicta swiss made watches. Those are the only ones I buy. And they're amazing watches, not just for the price, but period.

Great video. I agree with everything you said, even though I like the Invicta brand and own a couple that I love. Invicta does many things that make me cringe and I don't blame those who love to hate the brand. My fav is a model 14465, and I got it for 275.00. It works perfectly and I wish you would do a review of it.

I love my Swatches, i have one i bought for AUD$28 in Sydney in 1985 and it’s still going in 2019. It tells the time the same as any expensive watch. I have a dearer watch too, but i can have some fun with a Swatch.

@donquique1

3 жыл бұрын

I amtrying to buy a gk100. I am going to do a mini collection of theur skeleton watches. They are fun.

So, I like my Invicta. I have 2 of the same model, 1 with baby blue and one in a light lime green faces, and they have cloth band. Got them for $50 each and they've been consistent, I think they're good looking, and are predominantly understated as compared to other models. I would never, ever buy one of the larger models but I really like the 2 I have.

My Invicta Pro Diver was my first automatic and was what got me "into" watches. Before I used to wear a handful of Michael Kors/Fossil in generally clean styles (and always got them at discount pricing). And I will still defend those early purchases. Like Teddy said, as long as people aren't buying these entry level/budget watches for their overinflated MSRP, they can be great value. It may be cheesy but I'll keep them for the long haul even as I buy nicer watches to look back on how I've evolved.

@sergiomendez9231

7 ай бұрын

My collection of watches currently are mostly Fossils (gifted to me). They have great looking watches and the finishes are excellent. My favorite is a gunmetal chronograph my wife (then girlfriend) gifted me on our first Valentine's Day. Over a decade later and it's still running strong and accurate (quartz). My second favorite is a racing inspired Mechaquartz (quartz movement, automatic chronograph) which is a stunnerwith a bull-nose case. I think they can be a good gateway to the watch world (unlike a lot of the fashion watches I bought in my youth, but I never payed more than $20 for those watches and still got 5+ years out of them). I do love every single watch I have and rotate through them quite frequently. I share the same sentiment in keeping those but am eager to buy some quality time pieces with horological significance.

Invicta Pro Diver watches are awesome. If you don't like them, send them to me...

@jacobp948

5 жыл бұрын

Where’s your address bro?

@thefredlyshow2710

5 жыл бұрын

I’ll sell you mine For $30

@Michael-mv7pi

5 жыл бұрын

@@thefredlyshow2710 Paypal?

@zueshusky9475

5 жыл бұрын

I think they are great I’ve got 2 a pro diver and a sub-agua love them great quality and they don’t break your wallet

@tynchytemper9618

5 жыл бұрын

@&Ö& Paneristi wouldn't be seen dead in a submariner

The Invicta pricing technique you mention is what behavioral economists call "price anchoring." I think you explained it well but often the product, like in the case of outlet stores, is never sold at the "original price." It's annoying but it helps move often lower quality product.

I'd rather wear a $20 Casio than an Invicta that wants to be a Rolex. A Casio at least comfortable with what it is.

@mark01ization

4 жыл бұрын

their is a million different watches that look exactly like that that dont get hate

@jkratoville

4 жыл бұрын

I wear an Invicta Pro Diver because it looks great (many compliments - even from the GMT crowd), decent build and I can't afford to slap $15,000 around my wrist (I'm comfortable with who I am). I wear a Movado Museum because it fits my personal style (the "who needs numbers" crowd) and I wear a Casio Telememo because it does everything, is extremely comfortable to wear, and if it breaks, I'm out $25.

@AlejandroBHK

4 жыл бұрын

I wear a Invicta Pro Diver 9110, Ruber strap, automatic hackable mvmt from seiko, driver able for 200m. For 67 bucks thats a completely great value for my money. There's no diver for 67 bucks out there with those specs.

@richbrake9910

4 жыл бұрын

@@mark01ization not really, but I see your point.

@richbrake9910

4 жыл бұрын

With the exception of the date window, I do not think most of the Invicta models looks much like a Rolex. I admit the Invicta 38 mm Black Pro Diver looks somewhat like a Rolex Sub Mariner, but this is the exception. I'm not a fan of Invicta or Rolex; however, I would rather buy an Invicta than a Rolex. At least I would be getting what I paid for. Rolex watches are so over priced. I buy Omegas. Much better value.

These brands remind me of when a friend imported like 5000 Chinese watches to sell here in Mexico. He was selling them for the equivalent of $30 and he was making a 1000% profit on them. They also looked very similar to these internet watches, but with rubber straps instead of leather.

I would consider having quite a big watch collection and I hate to say it but I love my Invicta Pro. I won it on eBay brand new for £60 and the time keeping on it is better than some of my expensive watches. Fantastic value for money I love it ❤️

Love, love, love my Invicta Pro Diver Quartz Divers. Bought them ten years ago, and they still work well as long as you replace the watch batteries. Very impressive in wearing. As long as they are under 100 bucks and 50mm in dial size. FYI, get your watches on Amazon Love my Crotons, Seiko, and Citizens, too. As long as the latter two are Ecco Drives.

Great video! Tactful comments regarding commonly Love/Hated brands are ALL on point from the watch Enthusiast Community's Perspective. I like the history of Invicta and Movado and wish they would return to the core ideals they have apparently sold out to marketing at the expense of their once esteemed reputation. Instead of MSRP hike the brands value, they should focus on being a cost effective brand and realistically price the watches with actual supply/demand on line numbers. They are not fooling the masses.... Many videos share these same sentiments as are spoken of here and elsewhere by this video and comments section.

Movado is slightly different. Their Museum watch design is the icon itself. It was never ever about the movement or horology in a traditional sense. It was a true testament of minimalism and industrial design which was philosophically different than traditional Swiss watchmaking ideas. The Museum watch made a significant contribution to design in horology when it was introduced back in 1947. Anyone that doesn't recognize this doesn't know watches.

@exexpat11

5 жыл бұрын

Kraftwerk should come out with a watch.

@tongotongo3143

Жыл бұрын

Movado is all about design, class, prestige, and quality.

@whatintheFUCKbubbs

11 ай бұрын

The Movado museum design is my favourite because of its minimalist nature. It is strikingly beautiful

One of my most prized watches is a black/silver Movado Museum that was given to me as birthday gift from a former girlfriend. The last time we ever saw each other was at a NYE party about a year after we separated and I wore that watch. I don’t care much for any of their current offerings but the Museum design was one of the first to ever get me interested in watches and mine will never be sold no matter how many other nicer pieces I add throughout the years.

I love DW... business model. Selling a $20 watch for the price of $200, solely based on their marketing department achievement. Kudos to them.

@dancarlton7973

5 жыл бұрын

I give that way of selling a cheap watch a thumbs down.

@dencarp9305

4 жыл бұрын

When my gf told me she wants a DW because it's high quality compared to other Bauhaus watches I almost cried. Glad she actually didn't buy that crap after I presented Tissot to her.

@kutter_ttl6786

4 жыл бұрын

@@richardlyman2961 I don't think the original poster has any issues with $20 watches, as long as they're sold for $20.

@TeabagDeluxe

4 жыл бұрын

$20? You can buy those exact same watches (minus the branding of course) off Alibaba for $5 each. Maybe $2 each if in bulk.

@filippecovski7085

4 жыл бұрын

I got a simple watch from one "big online site" for 2$. the brand was censored so i liked it for the summer and ordered it . After 1 month i got DW watch. With full logo, back logo ect.... And i was like uh ? Ok ... Thanks i guess...

DW is one of the most popular watches in malaysia...u can see more people with DW than seiko, casio, rolex etc etc but most DW owners like myself range from 17-30~40

Not true on the 'Brick and Mortar' front for DW Teddy. Their shops all over London you can't escape from them.

This was a fun and interesting video. I've never really thought about 'hating' a watch brand. I've disliked individual watches, but never a brand. I actually bought an Invicta Pro Diver in the 1990s - and still have it - with an ETA 2824 movement. Watch still runs and keeps time well. I also recently bought a Glycine off the Invicta site due to the 20% discount. I agree that the current Invictas are not to my taste - but I have several wannabe rapper types (50+ year old wannabes) that simply love them. It's always been an aspect of watches that I love - you find something to suit YOUR style. AP watches are highly respected, but are clearly not my style. Thanks for sharing this seemingly controversial topic.

I'm in my early 30s and I have an Omega Speedy and Grand Seiko Snowflake. I also have a Invicta 12878 Limited Edition Subaqua #61 of 500. It's "Swiss Made" with an ETA A07.171 Valgranges movement, one of the first watches I found with that movement when the Valgranges was released, five years ago when ETA still sold their movements to those outside of the Swatch Group. The Valgranges line didn't really take off until A08 series, when Swatch Group brands like Longines moved many of their models over to the Valgranges movements, but the A07 I feel was a milestone in ETA's history. It's big, heavy, gaudy, but I like it.

I love your videos and appreciate the time and work you put into gaining the incredible amount of knowledge that you have collected to share with the rest of us. But that turtle neck tho. 😂 keep up the good work man!

I purchased two of these brands in the past before I started watching reviews on KZread. Two Invicta automatics and a Movado 800 series. The Invicta watches did not hold up at all. The Movado has been my most complimented watch and is still going to this day. I don’t even get that many compliments on my Omega Seamaster. I think Movado is overpriced after doing research and realizing it has a cheap quartz movement. Although I bough mine on close out at 75% off retail price and at that price it was a good watch.

I think you were spot on with DW and MVMT. They are constantly marketing themselves on FB. Being from a Chinese hertage background and a Common Wealth citizen, I've always been skeptical of anything made in China for quality purposes. With Movado, their vintage watches are beautiful and usually retail here in the UK between £700- £1800 if serviced and have a warranty. I think it is ashame that Movado is almost copying DW and MVMT these days. I actually do have an Invicta watch among my collection. It's the S1 Diablo Gun metal rally watch. It was given to me by my mother this year for my birthday. TBH, it was probably this Invicta watch that got me into researching horology and the history of various brands. It also made me more aware of the techicality of claiming "Swiss- Made" and marketing of Invicta. The Invicta watch serves me of a beater watch than anything else and is fun to wear on occassions e.g driving. I suppose in a way, I got into watches the same you did as you also got sucked in by these fashion brands. To properly to get into horology, I think you need to go through a 'trail of fire' in buying these types of watches so that it encourage you to research the topic. Btw Teddy, have you read the book "A Man and His Watch" by Matt Hrwnek?

I purchased a movado museum classic stainless steel with black band as my first watch after 20 years. I absolutely love the sleek design and look. Feels amazing on my wrist also. For $300 I’m thrilled with the watch!

@Fistoffire2

Жыл бұрын

Movado has move away from what they use to be but they do have some great looking watches. I own several of them I have one that is been with me for almost 30 years and still works. amazing work horse.

I personally really like Invicta as the watches they have that grab my attention are the bigger ones and that's great for me because I'm a really big dude and have a big wrist, I own currently a pro diver and I really like it it's been super reliable and I plan to buy more

There's a DW shop in London near Old Spitalfields. I'm sure there are others. They've expanded to brick and mortar now

Like you said, it's such a shame Movado has become what they are now, I quite like what they did in the past.

@mcstarling07

5 жыл бұрын

They still have a few decent pieces (like Invicta). They have a heritage line and their Series 800 Sub-Sea (which I own). Solid end-links, sapphire crystal, 200m water resistant, screw down crown, Swiss Made, but quartz (albeit a highly accurate, higher end quartz movement). There are definitely better options out there for the price point.

@Jp_1998_

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'll take a look. Maybe they're still doing something right, could be interesting

@TeddyBaldassarre

5 жыл бұрын

mcstarling07 is right. Not everything is hot garbage, but it is hard to defend them when over 50% of their catalog is just the same design over and over.

@mcstarling07

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly Teddy. I try to be fair (as do you) and I can see where there is potential and that they do have some standouts in their catalog. Overall, the brand has fallen far from their heritage and they've basically turned themselves into the "museum watch" brand. Sad to see, but the glimmers of hope (like the Series 800) keep people like me hoping that they change their foolish ways. Thanks for the reply.

@Fistoffire2

5 жыл бұрын

Through my life I have own several Movado watches to include their ESQ line and I can’t say enough good things about them those watches lasted me for many years and in my former line of work they took some punishment and kept on ticking. Unfortunately, someone broke into my home and stole all my watches to include my high-end watches. I was so heartbroken I refuse to buy or wear a watch for the last 5 years. I recently purchase my first watch and yes is a Movado along with a safe. lol. I am currently ready to start my collection to include some high-end watches. Teddy I have watch some of your shows and found them to be very informative. Thank you and I'll keep watching and learning.

As someone who brouses the pawn shops throughout my US travel I can tell you that a massive majority of watches in Pawn Shops are Invicta, so many!

Love your reviews! Would you be willing to do a review for Christian Van Sant & Original Grain? Bought a couple of watches from them & love the look! Just want to know if they were worth it or will I be replacing them in a year?!

I went through a collecting binge about 8 years ago during a time when I had more money than sense and was addicted to Ebay. I found a lot of great deals on new and lightly used watches and ended up with a lot of Invictas (around 60). There were a few I didn't like once I got them because they were uncomfortable or some minor thing. The majority I still like and wear occasionally. I love the eye-catching looks of them and they get attention. Only ever had trouble with two; a hand fell off each one but a local jeweler was able to fix them. Now I love my Seikos more and even though I have far fewer of those, I love the craftsmanship. I probably wouldn't buy another Invicta because I believe the quality has been dropping every year, judging from other people's experiences gleaned from watch forums and videos like this one. But I'll hang onto the ones I have for awhile.

@Nightmareman3

2 жыл бұрын

I bought 1 Invicta years ago and had it for a couple of weeks and all the hands came off . Never again.

I have a pro diver, it really kick started my interest into watches. I wanted a great looking automatic dive watch that wouldn’t break the bank. Now because of its low price and high availability I wear it all the time without worrying about bumping or scratching it or God forbid losing it. My interest in watches has expanded since then and I definitely have my eyes set on some better/ more expensive watches, but I can’t deny the value for money in the pro diver. Like you said, Seiko NH35 movement, sapphire crystal, robust water resistance etc. That being said, the pro diver is probably the only Invicta watch I’d ever buy/ have bought.

@domingoc2573

2 жыл бұрын

There's a couple variations of the invicta pro diver u should look into

I'm new to Horology (18 months). My first 2 watch was Vincero!! Within 2 months, I learned, sold them and started collecting more serious watches. My latest being the Spaceview 2020 ( I'd have bought from you but the UK importation costs kill me). I should really thank Vincero for getting me into watches...

Good content. Straight forward, honest and to the point.

Just picked up a My Little Pony digital. LOVE IT.

@geoepee

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! Lovely

I agree with all your choices. I want to hurl a chair at my TV everytime I see Invicta being sold on a shopping channel!

Wow! Thank you for your knowledge and insights. I just found an Movado Museum that was gifted to me by a friend in 1998. It’s a beautiful watch. I sent it to a company that specializes in watch restorations and repairs. I believe all it should need is a battery, tune-up and polish. I was going to invest in purchasing additional Movado watches till I seen your video. Now I’ll continue watching your videos and find other beautiful watches of value, thanks to you. Thank You So Much. Mick

Hello Teddy, love your content, just found you today. How do you feel about Tissot as a brand and would you consider doing a video?

This year I bought 7 Invictas and well... love them they can take a beating and they feel good and not cheap at all even if there kinda cheap there still pretty good

@juny1982

3 жыл бұрын

Amén!!! To that bro, I have 4 invicta watches Subaqua nomad IV, 2 pro diver, Marvel black widow, and 2 Nautica and they look great, I get compliments.

I love my Movado, but it's an anniversary watch. Its design is more from their past.

Very excellent and unbiased points! A brand I personally hate is Armitron, but that’s because I have to work on them.

I purchased an Invicta Pro Diver to be my beater watch but to my surprise it keeps great time and I have gotten more compliments about this watch than any other watch I own.

Thanks for this video Teddy. My comment today is on a different issue. I feel If Chinese manufacturers like Guanqin and Cadisen can put out some solidly built devices with automatic movements from Seiko and Citizen for less than $100, then these new age microbrands offering similar devices for much are no better than the Invictas and DWs of this world!

not a watch enthusiast, but i absolutely loathe any brand that simply markets themselves as being the classy, minimalist essential

@isaachill4764

5 жыл бұрын

@@swoon_tv definitely the design works well in the outfit, just perhaps the morality behind inflating the price of a cheaply made watch which you can pick up for dirt pisses me off

@Em-fz6eb

5 жыл бұрын

"afForDaBLe LuxURy"

@bimmer8602

4 жыл бұрын

What about any smart watches lol, would you consider them minimalistic or just gimmicky useless watch? Like samsung gear for example.

@ricwilliam9839

4 жыл бұрын

Filipo Lorreti feels like a Chinese watch.

@1marcelo

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaachill4764 You are assuming that because they look sleek they are cheaply made. I'm not sure that is the case.

Thank you! This is the only review that I found useful after 2 hours of searching!

I have Invicta Pro Diver in blue, paid $63 for it and i love it. Seems to be nice quality, with Seiko automatic movement and overall feels lovely

I can’t speak for invicta other models but the invicta pro diver is a quality dive rated watch, I’ve never had it malfunction and it keeps time relatively well and it does anything and everything a 5-30k watch does. You can dive with it. What’s there not to like about a watch like that? It does what it was designed to do and it looks nice aswell

@ednammansfield8553

5 жыл бұрын

Yes so true about the Pro Divers. I have two of them the 8927OB and the 8928OB watches. Really enjoy wearing mine.

Very good video, I'm completely agree, and about Movado I remember my dad once show me a book about art and design and was a Movado there, where is that brand now...

@TeddyBaldassarre

5 жыл бұрын

Looking at some of their old chronographs you realize how far they have moved away from their original focus of design.

@josealbertozamora9375

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeddyBaldassarre it's really something I'm sorry what happen with Movado, maybe in other of the episodes of your series about brands who lose their way you can speak more about it.

@S5King7

4 жыл бұрын

Movado still has their fans though. Probably selling more than ever. If you want an instantly identifiable "fine" watch that doesn't break the bank, they are a brand to look at. Only serious watch connoisseur types look down on Movado. To 95% of the population that knows what it is, they will consider it a nice watch.

My father was in a watch store and the owner told him Invicta is one of the 2 most trouble prone brands (i.e. a lot of repairs) they sell. I can't recall the other brand.

I own 3 Invicta pro divers, all purchased on amazon. Two were purchased on a Black Friday sale so they were cheaper than cheap (around $105 for both). I agree completely with Teddy's comments regarding the brand's quasi-deceptive "MSRP" marketing practices. One place where I've seen it twice has been on cruise ships,, where they parade these things out with a big discount off MSRP, so everyone who hasn't done their homework or doesn't know better thinks they're getting a great bargain (like anything purchased on a cruise ship is going to be a bargain). Saw a guy purchase a gold with blue dial pro diver for about $100 more than what I paid for the same watch through amazon on Black Friday.

Five months ago, I became more than interested in the world of watches. In fact, I have become somewhat obsessed with the creatures. I have now some ten watches in my collection; none really worthy of significant importance or true value. I am now keenly informed and aware of the marketing, science, and horology behind hundreds of brands and am no longer bamboozled by the practices of the watchmakers you so disturbingly mentioned. In fact, it is with raw anger I discovered the ridiculous price gouging that the fleas, as well as luxury brands, market their watches to the uninformed customer. I sincerely hope that all of the viewers to this channel, as well as people of watch knowledge, clearly make an attempt to dissuade friends to seek quality vs quality appearance, and the catch and grab mentality of large store retailers offering fake discounts on marked up retail. However, do let the uninformed and underprivileged relish in the purchase of their petty insignificant toy watches. It pleases me to know that failure will be imminent in two years..maybe less..after purchase and only then will a real epiphany to change buying habits occur. Lastly, never pay retail! So many grey market dealers out there who will gladly sell the same luxury watch at a huge discount to retail. Long may your channel exist to prevent the fools from investing their hard earned money on garbage..for I was once a fool and perhaps still am.to an extent.

Do a video on Rado watches

Hi teddy love the channel I just got into watches and purchased an automatic Movado 1881 and that's all it took I must say I'm hooked. By the way nice turtleneck.

Soulless is an ample description when it come to all 3 of the brands mentioned. Hopefully some folks not as educated on quality time peices as others will do a bit more investigation before they plunk their hard earned money down . Thanx Teddy !!

I love my invicta watches... understood they are cheap bu they give a blue collar guy like me to have a good looking watch at a decent price

@iteilejm

5 жыл бұрын

The best watch is the one thats on sale or you can buy used. Ive bought a lightly used Steinhart & Omega for a fraction of its retail. Just have to do a little digging. Personally I'd never buy an Invicta.

@robertwallace7963

5 жыл бұрын

@@iteilejm well noted my friend .. I just happen to like the invicta brand... but it is a start to my collection

@jimbritttn

4 жыл бұрын

Timex with a Twist-o-flex band is the best...PERIOD. Only an IDIOT spends more than $50 for a watch

@mikster313

4 жыл бұрын

If you ever feel like branching out, Seiko makes a great product. The movement may even be in your Invicta! Otherwise, enjoy what you wear!

I agree with your points. However the watch purchasing market is dominated by those who know only how to tell time and shop for what they like and what meets their price point. Next are the group that purchase a brand for the recognition of their peer group, once again these buyers only know how to impress and most know how to tell the time. Down at the bottom, less than 1 % are the WIS group, the Watch Idiot Savants, who know what 6Hz versus 8Hz means, know what a dual fold deployant is, know what the differences of 316L versus 904 stainless are, can identify the brand of watch that their doctor wears down to the model number. This group - includes me - we mock the sheep, we tend to be polarized in our devotion to certain brands, and will spend far more than we should to tell time, some live without certain norms to allow them to wear a $10k timepiece and fret about its potential to attract thieves while riding public transit. Our tribe will continue, the internet is the glue holding us together, sealing us from the pedestrian masses as well as a Trip Lock crown.

@1517the_year

4 жыл бұрын

Mtechthewise hahahahaha, this is great

Hey teddy. Can I get your opinion on what you think about the NAKO (meaning time in the setswana language) watch. The watch is only limited to Botswana and you may not get much info on movement and things like that. I just would like to know what you think of the design and price.

How can you know the net profit for DW ??? Can I know the net profit for citizen and seiko

How does one acquire such luxurious hair?

@fasterthanyou1481

3 жыл бұрын

Pay $200 at a salon in a suit and they’ll know what to do😏

I completely agree with you about the designer brands and Invicta! Is very sad that a brand like Movado lost it’s way like that!

@TeddyBaldassarre

5 жыл бұрын

I tried to keep it as objective as possible here. Glad to hear you agree. Thanks for watching again, Francisco.

@Djarra

5 жыл бұрын

One thing about the current state of Movado it does push down the value of the vintage watches. The 70s chronograph with the legendary Zenith El Primo movement come in at around $4k which is around $2k less than the Zenith with the same movement from that era (and around $30k less than a Rolex Daytona with that movement!) the Movado, like the one Teddy showed in the video, has a more classic case with a date at 12. The Zenith is more of a brutalist 70s case by that time with burst dials and date at 4. (prices are roughly translated from GBP)

For many years I always thought Movado was was the nicest in the 'retail mall watches, I even own a couple for over 5 years. But now that I've been watching your videos, I can think of 20 watches I should have bought vs these. I'll always keep them to remind me of where I was to where I know I'm going in relation to better quality watches.

I just got my first mechanical watch for my 23rd birthday and it’s a $30 winner/vigoroso brand and I’m really happy with it. In fact I love it so far! I may get something more expensive as I get more into the hobby but I have to learn how everything works first since I’m new to it all. Mine is an automatic mechanical and it keeps the date too. We’ll see how long it lasts fully wound and if it loses any time after a while. I truly don’t mind winding it more often or adjusting the time now and then so I’m not sure I’m a good candidate for luxury mechanical watches lol

"Lets have a civil dialogue in the comments below" thats a lot to ask teddy. Hahaha good video

I wear the Movado 800 with the blue face. Probably my favorite that I own. My next will be the Omega with the blue face

Yo what hair gel do you use it looks great!

I just started collecting entry-level watches (USD200-300), but before I did, I bought a USD230 DW watch. If only I knew it was just marketing for that price, I would just have the Citizen CB0160-51L or the Orient Mako III. I never looked that watch the same way again when I got the Orient Sun and Moon version 3.