I can't get used to a 650cc being called "small", they were big bikes when I was starting out.

I bought new both Motorcycles. Currently still own 2013 dl 650 w/106,000 miles & a 2021 Honda cb500x w 7,000 miles Very good video. I am 6' 3 1/2 ". Both outstanding motorcycles. Dl 650 is my group big trips and camping motorcycle. Easily cruise 90 miles an hour all day. Moab motorcycle. Honda cb500x is my day trips and slow technical dirt road motorcycle. Cruises best at 72-77 miles an hour. (No gear, only a small rear bag--snack for my trips) Bought Honda because great reviews, almost 100lbs lighter than the Dl 650 (dl with top case and gear) Dl 650 is a little top heavy at low speeds. Honda is a lot easier to pick up when a tip over. If in a slight up or downhill the Honda is so much easier to man handle. Something I could not back up Dl 650. Get stuck. Too Heavy. As long as moving it is a pleasure to ride. If you stop in wrong location. Ouch! Get ready for a workout. Yes, the Dl 650 is a better motorcycle. But riding off road by myself the Honda cb500x is a lot more manageable/Fun. The Honda I am able to ride on road too afraid of to take the Dl 650. noticeable I feel very lucky to own both. Could live with ever one. Honda is better off road but can handle fwy. Dl 650 handles fwy effortlessly but does fine off road. First impression of Honda cb500x. This feels like a toy. Very well sorted. Low 1st gear. 1st gear not as fun for street but outstanding for off road, steep up and downhills. No stalling. Very happy with this motorcycle. Dl 650 better engine breaking, a lot faster motorcycle. Wider gear ratio. I ride with the BMW 1200 gs & no problems on road hanging with them. DL 650 is a fast motorcycle. Off road BMW hands down is a lot better. Great off-road suspension. BMW 1200 or 1250 gs are the best motorcycles in the world if you can afford it. But off road, an elephant. If tip over, you better have friends with you to help you pick it up. Note I did also own a 2017 Hayabusa for 4 yrs. and put 35,000 miles on it. Really cool motorcycle. But would not buy another one. Only problem with Hayabusa too fast for the street. Hard to only ride fwy speeds. Yes, that is one fast motorcycle. 150 miles an hour in 3rd gear! Yes, will do the 186 miles per hour. Yep! If you do track days, the motorcycle makes sense. Everyday riding NO! Better choices out there. smile

I think you are missing an important comparison of fuel consumption, the v Strom 650 consumes approximately 17 to 20 percent more than the CB 500, which if you use it often is something to consider perhaps.

They are both great bikes BUT the engine of that Vstrom 650 is butter smooth. So much nicer than any parallel twin.

I was waiting for somebody to finally directly compare those two. 2 years ago I was looking for a new motorcycle and those were exactly the 2 I narrowed my choice to. I fully agree with all that has been said in this video but in my opinion some differences are even bigger than described. Before the test rides I really wanted to get the CB500X because it was better looking and it would save me some cash but after the test rides I knew 100% that the Vstrom is my winner. I can see a lot of CB500X fans here in the comments but I really disagree with a statement that there are "only little differences" between those bikes. I'm sorry but in my opinion the CB500X felt more like a toy compared to the Vstrom 650. The power, the torque (!), the comfort, stability, it's all way better on the Vstrom. CB500X is surprisingly small in the real life, don't let the videos/photos fool you. If you're really interested in any of those bikes make sure you get a test ride before the purchase! Of course it all depends and I see many scenarios where the smaller CB500X would suit you better but I'd say that if you're looking for a bike that will take you on a longer yourneys in comfort and you're skilled enough not to be afraid of the size and weight then it's definitely worth to spend those few pennies more and get the Suzuki. At least that's what I did and I'm super happy about that, it puts the smile on my face during every ride!

@eQui253

2 жыл бұрын

As a CB500X owner that tried a V-Strom 650 - I agree 100%. Since I am a beginner , I choose the Honda. But in the end both are excellent bikes for the money and it depends on your personal reasons, what will suit u better.

@chrishart8548

2 жыл бұрын

@@eQui253 the cb500x is small enough for anyone it's very approachable even for a 5'7" lady. A v-strom 650 seams more like the 1000 v-strome. Its a seriously big bike.

@ioandragulescu6063

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrishart8548 fully agree. After owning one for two years and looking again at a GS1200/1250, which many years ago seemed like a tank, now it looks normal, even small somehow ....

@W3TFART

Жыл бұрын

Why were you waiting for a comparison when you did it yourself?

@krzysztofpiatkiewicz8283

Жыл бұрын

@@W3TFART #1: I watch a lot of motorcycle reviews. Different brands, different models, just to be "up to date" with what's on the market. But I only had a chance to ride very few of those bikes myself in the real world. So I was simply curious how somebody else would compare those two in a review, would he have a similar opinion to mine or perhaps he would see them completely differently. #2: I had seen a lot of CB500X reviews before I went for a test ride and almost every one of them was praising this motorcycle as if it was a Holy Grail. Same case with the comments under those videos. When I finally rode that bike myself however, it was unfortunately a bit of a disappointment. Don't get me wrong, it is a very nice motorcycle in many ways but at the same time I think it's just a little overhyped. Watching separate reviews of the CB500X and the Vstrom one might get a feeling (at least I did back then) that the Honda is better than the Suzuki or at least that they are very comparable (while the Honda is cheaper so why overpay?). After the test rides though I felt something completely different, Vstrom seemed to be a much more mature bike to me, I felt like I was getting +50% of the motorcycle for just a few % more cash. I also wanted to see the comments under a video directly comparing those 2 to see other people's opinion as well. So in short: I was just curious :) Cheers!

My first bike was a 2019 CB500x, my current one is the 2021 VStrom 650XT. I love them both, but I'm glad I started with the CB, a lovely and forgiving teacher. My main usage is commuting, so the CB would be the more rational choice between the two. But who wants to be rational?

even though I'm not the biggest fan of this type of bike, I would definitely go with the V-Strom

Good comparison. My friend has a 2021 CB500X, and one thing that surprised me was the clutch and gear box. You can easily pull the clutch in with your pinky and the transmission feels as smooth as a light switch. Great beginner bike, or someone wanting to ride on a budget (regular fuel, and a little bit will get you a long way). It clearly doesn't have the power of the Vstrom, but with an aftermarket exhaust, it even sounds pretty good. And with that said, I'm a big fan of Suzuki's 650 engine, the Vstrom is quite a bargain, if Suzuki replaced their designers, they could sell a heck of a lot more bikes.

If you are just roading it with some gravel here and there, then either will do, but the 650 is more comfortable over 70mph. The cb500x takes off road way better though. I have a rally raid 500x and it is something you can actually take on trail (actual adventure biking/camping) with the rally raid packages. i picked up mine with mosko bags and rally raid package for 5k, so a no brainer there. Just really depends whether you want to be able to take it offroad, lay it down and pick it back up etc. the v strom feels way bigger.

Great, thoughtful videos without a bunch of fluff or silliness. Thanks for informing the community, man. It’s hard to only have a couple bikes. There are SO many cool rides out there. Wouldn’t it be great to walk out and choose the vstrom or the CB depending on exactly the ride?

I bought cb500x 2022model, before I drove yamaha tracer 900,2020 model a great bike, before that f650dakar. , I must say I did a right thing, comparing Tracer and Honda, I feel much more nimble on curves and with Honda my enjoy speed is 80-130, while with tracer were up to 180+what was really silly and dangerous, that's main reason why I downgraded for 2 categories, cost is a second reason, maintain 500x yearly cost 1/3 of the tracer 900, Cb500x With full tank i did 470 km before reserve blink, than I filled tank for 13,7l up to 17,7l,so I had left 4 L for up to 150km more. 2,8l-3,1l/100km.The clutch is suprisely good. And if u need more power you just rew it up and it will do the job with no problem. I drive with no passenger

The cb500x is SIGNIFICANTLY better offroad than the v-strom, it is higher off the ground, is much lighter, and has a much shorter wheelbase. Yea you need a skidplate to protect the exhaust headers, and better tires, but thats the case with any motorcycle. Agree the wind protection is poor and the engine is too weak to be fun on 110km/h + motorways. Also, the fuel efficiency at city driving speeds on the CB500x is unreal, but that goes out the window at motorway speeds.

I would add fuel economy, especially as you have downrated the Cb500x for its smaller engine...Either way both great bikes.

@michals1108

2 жыл бұрын

excactly and I don't get downrating anyway , they both have stickers one is 650 and the other 500 so you know what you buying

@nickclarkuk

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah my cb500f with the same engine can do 80+mpg if ridden carefully and you can’t do that on the vstrom. That’s important when you’re doing 12,000 miles a year like me .

@thomaschilds8781

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely its (not so) secret weapon, and a reason that many people choose it.

@W3TFART

Жыл бұрын

@@nickclarkuk oh wow who would have thought a smaller capacity bike would use less fuel . Maybe you should get a Vespa for even greater savings . There’s to many advantages to the VTwin 650 to care about minimal savings in fuel from a buzzy inline twin .

@nickclarkuk

Жыл бұрын

@@W3TFART I like saving fuel what can I say 😂.

I'll take the lighter weight of the CB500X for offroad. Don't need a lot of power off-road and want something easier to pick up so it beats the T7 too for me. But they're all great motorcycles. Nice to have a choice.

@alphacapo

Жыл бұрын

Dont drop the bike

@leeaymi

Жыл бұрын

@@alphacapo If you do offroad rides, you WILL drop it.

@theorthobiker

Жыл бұрын

@@alphacapo If you are going off road, you will eventually drop the bike XD

I have a '21 500x as my first bike. Generally I really like it but I don't have much to compare to. Buffeting from the screen is terrible. Higher up the rev range when you work the engine it gets a bit vibey. Brakes are very good. Physically it's comfy. Fuel economy (yawn) is pretty good. 80mpg on motorway. Cheap to insure and service. Exhaust sounds on overrun is brilliant. A static rev doesn't show off the sound at all. Pops and crackles aplenty off throttle. Fuel mapping at low speed is not great. I find it's very snatchy between 0 throttle and applying some throttle. I find it it very easy to move around on or off the bike. Great bike to learn skills on

Price should be also go to V-storm, bit more bike and power for a good price. I like the CB500X more, but it's underpowered. Around 60hp should be the sweet (allrounder/)spot.

I’ve never ridden the Honda cb 500 but I own a the 2019 vstrom xt and I absolutely love it and sounds awesome with the akropovic exhaust on it I have put some Michelin anakee adventure tires on it as well it does pretty well off road in most conditions and is really comfortable for long distance riding

8:45 - the V-Strom in orange looks nice! 👌🏻 🍊

As a 6-footer, when I bought my 2017 V-strom 650 XT (current shape - lol) I found wind buffeting at freeway speeds with the stock screen to be atrocious. So I ended up buying a Givi Airflow adjustable after-market screen. Ironically it works best at it’s lowest setting, with good chest protection but fairly clean airflow around the helmet.

@kiritsakis1

Жыл бұрын

As a fellow 6-footer I have to say that there was no bike that I tried or owned that did not need an aftermarket screen. Though most come with a warning about stability which is worrying, nowadays I have a nice helmet with a ton of airflow and a nice pair of earplugs. Way better than a random change of wind direction throwing you off balance mid-turn 😅

VStrom wins in my book. My son in law picked up a used early VStrom with high mileage as a spare bike for when I visit. Bargain price of $3,500 USD. The high mileage is no issue; runs and handels like it just came off the show room; only better with premium aftermarket tiers 😘. It is absolutely remarkable how evenly matched it is to his new 2020 BMWF900XR.😱 Astounding. The VStrom actually works better than the new Beemer XR on gravel secondary roads in the mountains of Idaho. Keeps up easily on paved twisties. 😎 The CB500X has always looked good to me on paper, but after riding an older high mileage VStrom I can't praise it enough.🥳

I like them both for different reasons .. They are both in the "Bullet Proof "category with the king of bullet proof - the KLR 650 that just came back onto the Market .(The US military used that bike with a Diesel motor ). I think Zack Courts said he would take the KLR to the tip of south America over the BMW 1250 just for its simplicity ..Forte Nine has talked it up as well in two different clips .. . That said I like that the two bikes you chose here have some of that bullet proof DNA .. Being a rider using just 10% thruway (motorways) and 30% gravel/dirt I guess I would look for the Yamaha T7 (if any were able to be found here in New England ) My son just got the new KLR 650 and it really is an amazing bike .. The Kawasaki Versys is another gem in this group that can be found for a great price second hand ... Great clip Rob ...

as a fairly new rider but someone who wants to branch out into mild off-roading, and as a bit of a Suzuki boy, the V-Strom is definitely among my top picks. though i am open to other brands for sure. i dont have off road experience so i dont plan on doing anything crazy so either of these bikes would be suitable for me. id probably mainly do longer highway miles with the occasional light trail riding. Definitely still leaning towards the V-Strom after this video but itll probably be next year before i can get another bike so ive got time to research and maybe even test ride some different options.

@motobob Good video. My only request for these types of videos is that you make it clear what year model you are talking about at the start, both verbally and in the description. I don't think you mentioned they were both 2019 bikes almost until the end. Thanks.

I have the grand father of v storm.. freewind Suzuki xf...i was looking for those two... great review thanks 👍

I just found the V-Strom XT. I really like that bike and was comparing it to the Honda myself. This video is perfect!!!

I wish this review was out at the beginning of the summer! I bought the 2022 CB500X in may and even if I liked the look, it never felt good on the road. It's just too small for North America, with the highways we have. The engine was weak and buzzy and I didn't feel at home. I lost a good amount of money selling a brand new bike and swapping it for a 2021 V-strom 650. Now I'm bikeless again, my girlfriend smashed into my bike while on her first rider.... Anyway, if you're hesitant between those 2 bikes, 100% go with the 650.

MPG should be part of the comparison, otherwise its like ringing a fight. When that aspect comes into the discussion, it becomes much harder to decide, and ultimately will depend on your use case.

It is fair to say I wasn't expecting that! So many people take CB500X's off road and no mention of the incredible fuel economy of the Honda, build, finish, reliability. Each to their own I suppose, but I think you are probably in the minority choosing the Suzuki over the Honda. The sales figures over the same period speak for themselves!

@santiagomoralesgarcia1802

2 жыл бұрын

Suzuki's bikes are very good builded and has great reliability too. The Honda is going to win the fuek economy because is an small engine that doesn't like to rev more than 8500 RPM

@darthtyranus7683

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed I used to work on Suzuki power generators using diesel they're underdogs in the US but they're a very bulletproof build seen many Hayabusas in my MC get dumped from inexperienced riders but still keep it for several more years

@braddekker7359

2 жыл бұрын

Sales figures are a bit unfair to compare the Honda is lams approved the vstrom is not. I own several Hondas and a few Suzuki's and biased aside there is no comparison to be made between the two the v Strom is better in almost every possible way............I own a 2015 650xt ridden about 3k kms on the cbx (sister had one) it's a great bike but just not as great as the vstrom.

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

show me a used CB500x with 30K miles on it. Can't do it because there are none. Lots of used hi miles Vstroms, though. And the CB has been around for 10 years.

@luisenriqueguzmanarzola6632

10 ай бұрын

@@tbillyjoeroth I have been able to see several cb500x with 450,000 km and with only 10 years, they are very reliable motorcycles, I have never been able to see motorcycle engines with that amount of kilometers in my life. I was a user of Yamaha and Suzuki and I have never seen engines with that amount of kilometers in those brands.

The Suzuki is a step up from the CB500 in most ways.

If you could have included Versys 2022 650 would have been better. But i like it picasso. Keep it coming

Here in the US you can find BMW's with 50k miles on them for more that the original price! It's amazing.

I would pick the Suzuki over the Honda. It's more substantial and the horn is in the correct place........Sal : )

Would love to see the Versys 650 vs VStrom

When I had decided I wanted another bike to tour on, these two were what I boiled down to. And my choice was the same as yours. 10,000 miles on I wouldn't change, my VStrom does everything I need it to do with ease. I have to say though the Minion headlamp arrangement on the current model is not to my taste at all. Here's hoping they adopt similar styling to the current VStrom 1050 in the near future.

@MaxFromSydney1

2 жыл бұрын

Like the look of the head lamp or not, the stock low and high beam lighting on the V-strom is very good and confidence inspiring at night.

@alastairtheduke

Жыл бұрын

This minion lol, headlamp is what makes me not buy this bike. It's like a surprised dodo bird!

Well I'd pick the V Strom without a doubt! But the newest CB version has a double disc front brake. On the other hand, in terms of off road skills a V Strom 650 XT version is available....

Bought a 2016 CB500X recently as my first bike and it seems to be a good choice for learning to ride again. The suspension is definitely squishy, but that's kind of nice when your commute to work is over 3 hours, round trip. The seat does start to hurt after the first hour though, so I find myself standing or sliding back to the pillion seat towards the end of my ride. The accessory socket would've been nice though.

@xdx2653

10 ай бұрын

dude are you kidding????cb500x is not made for such long trips daily.3 hours trip for work with the cbx???i think you made wrong choice.u need bigger bike and more cc for that

@chaseweeks2708

10 ай бұрын

@@xdx2653 nope, handled it like a champ. I was doing that mostly to make sure I was going to be fine with selling my truck and only having the bike when I moved to Hawaii. Over 8,000 miles later I can confirm it's perfect for the job, even when I've got the panniers loaded down with kit and the top rack loaded down with 40lbs of groceries.

I had a V-Storm 650 Adventure model biggest mistake was trading it for a Nomad 1600 cruiser. The V-Storm is so frigging forgiving and fuel mileage was awesome. Terrible mistake trading it 🙁🙁🙁

it would be great if you could repeat this test but with the facelifted cb500x 2023 with new fork and brakes and vstrom 650 xt with spoked wheels

👋👋PO of a 012 Vstrom 650 Adv. I throughly enjoyed the bike in every respect. It was a bit weak in the Interstate touring department. W/a load on, you really had to twist it when passing BIG RIGS😵‍💫. Thats my only complaint. I rode it for 2+years and traded it for a monster Kawi Concours 14. It was too heavy. Deadly fast, but heavy. I would definitely consider purchasing another 650 Vstrom 👍👍. Ride safe Bobby 🙏 .

Suzuki needs to update the design of the 650 to look similar to the 1050 i think. That would seal the deal for me. The Honda looks far better now. Regarding heated grips, you can get them for the Honda but it will set you back 380£ plus any potential cost of fitting them. I also believe Suzuki offers a far longer warranty than Honda does. It’s definetely something to look into. The Suzuki comes with spoked wheels as an option. The Honda does not and you need to get wheels and tires from an aftermarket dealer which would make the cb500x the more expensive option.

@MoroMagrew

2 жыл бұрын

Agree that the Suzuki 650 needs a serious update in terms of styling, the 1050 and even the 250 (in my opinion) look a lot nicer than the 650!

@jimmyjam8795

2 жыл бұрын

A new vstrom is in development, but is rumoured to be a parallel twin. This has been talked about since 2020 though... Still waiting.

@mihaimihai9254

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, Simon. I'm a V Strom 1050 XT owner but if I only had the budget for a V Strom 650 I would pick it without a doubt depsite its old design.

@mihaimihai9254

2 жыл бұрын

A V Strom without a V Twin engine would be enything but not a V Strom!

@SvanbergSimon

2 жыл бұрын

@@mihaimihai9254 P-strom? 😆

Dobar video

Be nice to see the Versys in this comparison since basically the same class and head-to-head against the vstrom. The CB500X is interesting to me but a little overpriced for what you actually get. Out of the 500 Hondas that are all the same basic engine and platform, it is the most expensive but should it be? That being said, I heard a Scrambler version is coming, and that would interest me the most given the platform. Like many others have said in other comp videos, if the Versys 300 was bumped up to 400, I might pick it over all of these. I have a SV650 already, so it would be interesting to have its VStrom cousin as well. But given I have the SV, it probably makes more sense for the 2nd bike to have much better off-road capability that would point towards a DUAL SPORT INSTEAD of any of these so-called "adventure" bikes. Even adventure riders like Itchy Boots switched from her CB500X to a CRF300L.

CB500X, cheaper, easier to control and easier repair.

@domenik8339

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't need to be repaired in the first place either.

Can´t go wrong with a vstrom!!

Merhaba tanıtım için teşekkürler peki Yamaha tracer 700 ve kawasaki verys 650 modelleri arasında kıyaslama yapabilirmisiniz bu 3 model içinden sizin tercihiniz hangisi olurdu

For a woman of 5’5 height and who weighs 65kgs (medium built) the v strom is a beast to handle and too heavy to park and move around so Honda cb500x ticks all the boxes if you want a but of adventure but also not be too intimidating. V strom is better suited to a 5’9 or taller person

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

5'5" women is not the target demographic, I'm sure

Bought a 650 VStrom XT on Friday. £5100… 3 givi boxes, heated grips, centre stand,2020 model,givi crash bars, very pleased with it 🛵😀

My past experience of suzuki has corroded my experience of the brand. OK it was 20yrs ago, but it's the same crap brakes that seized every 4 months, both bandit and SV. I've ridden the new CB500X which is awesome

bit of a waste of time, 650 v 471 cc. Ones a learner powered bike. The honda was the old version. How can you actually make a comparison.

Great comparison! What you don't mention though, is that the Honda is assembled in Thailand, and the V-Strom is assembled in Japan. I've owned a Thailand Honda, and the quality was nowhere near the one you could expect from the brand.

@luisenriqueguzmanarzola6632

10 ай бұрын

I have been able to see some CB500x with 450,000km of travel, never in my life have I seen motorcycle engines with that amount of kilometers, the two Cb500x one with 230,000km and the other with 465,000km had been manufactured in Thailand and both were from the year 2013 . Greetings.

189 cc difference in the vstrom ‘s favour, does show so was going to be easy win for the SuZuni, I’ve owned them both.

I've owned both, the CB for me was better all around.

The V-Strom motor has useable torque at any RPM. Nice and smooth too.

When I think I am getting geeky... You guys come with the sounding of a parallel VS vtwin... They sound all the same to me :)... I can already destinguish 2, 3 and 4 cylinders... And that's it. :)

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

totally! so who exactly picks a bike based on standing next to it and blipping the throttle???????? Stupidest category ever!!

oops, so I sold my 2013 Triumph Street R for a CB500x 2021. Yes I was aware it was approx. half the power and 2/3 the torque but thought I'd see what the adventure bike hype was about and great reviews of the Honda, many by seasoned riders of diverse bikes. First impressions are, love the wind protection but anything is an improvement on a naked bike. I have fitted windscreen raisers and Acerbis hand guards as well as Oxford heated grips. Bike came with sump guard and Ventrura rack. In all bike is comfortable to ride, very economical and cheap to insure. Compared to my Triple the sound of the Honda is fairly throaty. Not as easy to thread thro traffic but does the job. A great commuter I am sure it would be fine on the longer 2-3 day ride. I have an air cushioned Airhawk from a previous bike. With my Ventrura luggage bag it has to be one of the most practical, good value bikes on the market. I suspect it will be reliable and reckon it will be easy to service. Only thing is wish it had more power. Next bike maybe a Triumph Tiger>.

@pinorkal

2 жыл бұрын

PS I have ridden a mates 2013 1000cc V-Strom but found it top heavy and not so good for city, especially roundabouts. CB500x just tips , plus no chicken strips.

I would never be able to ride around on a bike that has a typo in its name.

Two excellent bikes.

Eh, I don't agree that there is anything close to a clear "winner" between the two. They're more-or-less the same bike with a few small design differences, both from very highly reputable manufacturers. Bottom line, you can pay a little more money for a bit more engine oomph and a few more accessories. I bought a used vstrom 650 a couple months ago and love it, but had I come across a used cb500 first for a similarly fair price I don't think I would have had any regrets going with it instead. I don't ride for the sound, but I do have to say that between the two the vstrom has an infinitely more satisfying rumble. I've been a bit disappointed with the mileage (mid-40s MPG), but I have been riding a lot at highway speeds and have a raised wind screen so I can't complain too much. The position is very comfortably and upright, I've ridden across my state a few times (~3hr) without any complaints. Parts are easy to come by and there's a vibrant community of folks. Is the "all black" look a bit boring? Haha maybe, but not a deal breaker for me.

@crimsonsamuraiftw

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, I went the opposite way. The V was locked into my top 5. However, right now main concern for me was and will be gas prices, so commuting will be #1 on my list, and thankfully found a great deal on the cb500x first.

Yes, yes, yes, you'd take the V-Strom for a bit more long-legged comfort but the CB isn't far behind, Slip a Two Brothers can on the CB and it whips the sound from the Strom, for my ears anyway. I've done a lot of miles on both bikes. I found the Strom worthy but dull and the CB just as capable and heaps more fun. All very subjective but that's my two bobs worth.

@MrKangee

2 жыл бұрын

V Stroms sound pretty incredible with an aftermarket exhaust as well, miles better than that 180° p-twin imho

@trevorbrooks813

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrKangee Yes I agree mine had great aftermarket cans, but each to his own eh... the CB for me. Ride safe, have fun.

1. Engine. V-twins don't inherently produce more power when considering other factors such as: tuning, displacement, and overall vehicle dynamics. In fact, the added weight and complexity of a V-twin motor could end up making less power than a well-tuned parallel-twin motor of equal displacement. I had a used naked Strom 10 years ago. Now my friend wanted to try my Strom and I his 500 Ninja. So down the freeway 10 miles to lunch, I didn't notice any less freeway performance until we got on to city traffic where I felt a drop in torque. Ninja = fast! 2. Sound. Sound is relative. I have never based any bike I had by it's stock sound. And I've made the mistake of getting custom exhaust only to find out it's only louder on the Dyno. 3. Handling. No that's not relative. I noticed on my buddy's Ninja I was less stable on the road. Let's put it this way, I didn't control the wind, it controlled me. The Strom humbled the wind. Well, maybe not like a Harley but better than the Ninja. With the Ninja I had to lean forward to much more so that was a no. 4. Off-Road. Face it, the Strom is a pig off road. It's a glorified streetbike with it's stock tires. If you put knobs on it then you only have a lousy heavy dirtbike, especially when you compare it to my 2-stroke Yamaha IT 400 Enduro, which was motocross bike with lights. 5. Comfort I have to say that my Strom was very comfortable compared to many bikes I've had in the past. 6. Tech: What's tech? Bells and Whistles? The Strom has some important components when it comes to Tech. Adjustable shocks, and sensors galore. 7. Styling. Again, subjective. I still think my Strom was sexy having that V-twin and all, which was before I found out that power wise a V-twin is mute. 8. Price: I have never purchased any vehicle new in my intire life. Let another sucker pay that automatic 15-20% loss out the dealership door. I got my first street Enduro for half price, with only 4000 miles on it. That's how I roll...

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I have owned both. A 2014 CB500X and now I ride a 2020 V-Strom 650XT. The V-Strom is a vastly superior motorcycle in my opinion. The only thing I miss on the Honda was the unbelievably good fuel economy and range. (70 MPG and 300 miles per tank) The V-Strom is much more engaging to ride. Perfect amount of power and still gets good fuel economy. (55 MPG and 250 miles per tank) I found the V-Strom to be more comfortable on long rides. Brakes, suspension and handling are all better on the V-Strom over the CB. The CB500X is definitely too buzzy for higher speed riding and runs out of puff too quickly. I would buy another V-Strom 650 but I would not buy another CB500X.

@FrankBonessa

15 күн бұрын

Wholeheartedly agree good man.

service intervals should have been included in the comparison.

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

they shoulda shown what it takes to replace the Strom air filter!! Mfrs would rather add traction control than hydraulic valves.

Would the NC750x be a closer competition to the Vstrom 650?

@crimsonsamuraiftw

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Compared to both, Vstrom is probably the better all arounder. Where the NC might come into play is slightly better top end and passing power, and while it still maintains the same mpg superiority, however it also cancels out the main advantage of the c500x had over the vstrom in the fuel range with a smaller tank (from 300+mi to only 200+mi going to even less than the vstrom,) as well as having that unwieldy location for the gas cap underneath the seat which can be cumbersome if you are carrying any loads - although that does help make for slightly better handling as well. So in the end ymmv, as they are all pretty much in the same ballpark, and ultimately depends on intended use case.

Spent most of my riding life on Honda but the Vstrom 650 is now my bike of choice. It goes anywhere on tarmac or dirt roads just as well as any other what they call a "Adventure bike " Its also far cheaper to buy and run .What more can you ask for..

Agree 100%

how you can say engine +1 for vstrom when its simply bigger?

Both these bikes are underrated...

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

look at the prices of used Vstroms and you'll see that they are NOT underrated. $3000 for one with 80K miles is not unheard of

Test drove bough and like the Honda CB 500 x much better, but you did not talk about millage witch is one very high point on a ADV bike if that is what you are going to be using it for. The 2022 CB 500 x is getting over 500 Km per tank of gas The V Strom only 400 km per tank of gas Honda CB 500 X, 3.5 liters per 100 km V Strom 4.9 liters per 100 To me that can make a huge difference, If you are traveling the back roads or going on a long trip. I also felt a lot better on the windy roads on the Honda, but the Suzuki was also quite good. Tires can also make a big difference there. As for comfort I liked the Honda, don't count wind protection there as most of my bikes do not have any. and wind screens up grades can be had for bough to give you more if that is what you want. cost of maintenance is also very important, and think Honda winds there as the engine is much easer to get at. Your review was ok but way out dated, check out the difference on the new bikes as that is what most will be looking at. Hear in Canada the difference between a good used bike and a new one is not a lot, and you get a warranty with the new one.

@devilsadvocate2548

Жыл бұрын

I was easily getting 3.5 l/100km out of my 650 V-Strom (previous shape to one in video). I'd normally hit my first reserve light (14l out of a 20l tank) at about 415km for 3.3 l/100km in about 80/20% highway/urban stop-start riding for the average work commute of 40km one way. Over 500km from a tank of petrol was easily achievable day in day out. I agree the windscreen wasn't the best though, but it was comfortable enough for my commute (after a crotch rocket!) and the engine was buttery smooth with a very nice and progressive power/torque band for its size. That Suzuki 650 V-Twin is IMHO one of the motor cycling world's great engines with stacks of character, strong 'every day' performance for its size, and it's virtually bulletproof. It's what IMHO makes the bike. The Honda is better made with more up to date equipment etc, but that Honda 471cc parallel twin, as good as it is, IMHO has nothing on the 645cc Suzuki engine for sheer character, noise and riding enjoyment, which in the end isn't that why many ride? I'm happy enough to make some of these 'tech'/ equipment compromises just to have a bike with that wonderful little engine!

Having owned both, I'd take the DL all day any day. The CB feels like an appliance, it gets the job done, but it's dull. The DL is much more engaging, brakes better, turns better, is more comfortable and is much quicker. That's not to take away from the accomplishments of the CB, but for me it's a no brainer.

A 2022 models comparison would be a lot more interesting. Honda has been working hard the latest two years while Suzuki has been a little lazy .

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

2023 the Vstrom is all new engine and electronics

CAn anyone make a comparison of the two bikes while carrying a passenger (i weigh 200 pounds and my passenger 130 pounds)?

Have the 2021 CB500X and love it went out to buy the 650 VStrom but found the rear suspension diabolical hard, even wound down. That came as a surprise as my Son had a brand new 650 VStrom 5 yrs ago and it was super comfy and brilliant

Maybe a Versys is a better comparison. Honda needs to do a new Transalp.

Suppose depends on your reason to buy. I think the Vstrom is better choice for most, but I bought CB500X for it's frugality after getting job with 65 mile a day commute. It's currently doing 97 mpg (uk) on hilly terrain, with mix of speed limits. Yes it's a bit low on torque and hard work at times, but it's doing the job I need and it's an ok machine in general.

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

your top concern is MPG you shoulda gotten a NC700/750, the mileage champ

@luisenriqueguzmanarzola6632

10 ай бұрын

@@tbillyjoeroth The NC750 and the Cb500x are almost the same for weight issues, the CB is less heavy than the NC and both walk very well, but when you put the NC on gravel terrain that's when you realize that the CB is much superior by having longer suspensions and also being a taller motorcycle. I would stay 100% with the CB500x

If you want a bike with fully functional headlights then VStrom 650 wins. I have both and CBs headlight is useless on night roads despite all the LED hype.

@MaxFromSydney1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the stock V-strom 650 headlights are excellent.

Another incentive to buy a pre-loved ‘Strom? It’s a farkle magnet; hard to find one that isn’t laden with goodies.

Good protection from the screens? I took my screen off my CB 500x because of the wind bufferting my helmet. Why don't testers mention this problem, and why do manufacturers continue to make the fairings too low? I think this is endemic to the ADV bikes in general, at least the ones I have ridden.

@user-ck6kq8zl2i

2 жыл бұрын

I have the cb500x too and the wind buffeting really pisses me off. Did think about removing it but it does at least catch the flies from hitting you in the neck etc. But I still might remove it yet. Has it helped the buffeting?

@jimellis2778

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ck6kq8zl2i The wind flow hits me about mid chest level, so my helmet is in clean airflow, and good. About the bugs, never had a problem with bug strike, except on my visor which is always annoying, but that's all part of bike riding.

@jakelowe8583

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ck6kq8zl2i I added a 30 euro screen deflector to my 2020 model and it helps loads

@user-ck6kq8zl2i

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakelowe8583 I tried that aswell, and it did help, but the screws and brackets which attach the defelctor onto the main screen were right in my eye line..was too distracting.

@tbillyjoeroth

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ck6kq8zl2i I had a cheap deflector on my Morphous and the things brackets broke while I was riding and nearly decapitated me

Had a V-Strom, I think my issues with it in terms of motorway capability and suspension not being enough for my weight would be exacerbated on the CB500X! However my main issue with the V-Strom was build/finish quality, you're constantly battling corrosion if you ride through the winter which is just no fun. I'd be interested in trying a NC750X to have a bike of similar size to the V-Strom but with a lower cruising rpm and better finish.

Missed out fuel economy, which is rather important these days?

Economy and servicing for the next head to head, i believe the V strom valves can be done at home?

@jimmyjam8795

2 жыл бұрын

So can the Honda's. I bought CB, because she'll rack up Miles quickly and The valve shims are easily replace by removing the rocker arm shafts instead of the camshafts. The Vstrom looks a pain comparatively.

@skaraborgcraft

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjam8795 The valves on a 650 Revere were bad enough, but if its a winter job with the bike off road, no big deal. The idea of removing camshafts is ludicrous to me, i can do the 4 valves on my old XL in less than 30 mins, including a 10 min tea break.

May be the Kawa KLR 650?

Fuel economy ?

Had a 2007 dl650 for 8 years no problem they are bulletproof - had a 2021 dl650 xt and sold it after 3 months because it would rattle your teeth out on the motorway commute - planning on a cb500x next year with some upgrades (suspension maybe rally raid) to do some off-road

@MaxFromSydney1

2 жыл бұрын

Rattle your teeth? The suspension is borderline cushy. Was it just wind buffeting from the stock screen? Or did you have the tyres way over-inflated?

@larrydoyle907

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaxFromSydney1 tyres were fine, I had a givi screen on it just a lot of vibration suspension is fine on them very comfortable overall the bike was good just not as good as I expected - in hindsight I should have gone for the tracer 7 I had been considering at the time

Always when there is a review with a honda and other bikes the other bikes they come out ahead as the reviewer are always biased. If compared with a tricycle they would chose the tricycle. I have CB500X with T-Rex crash bars and skid plate. Suspension and wheels from Rally Raid. Luggage from Mosko Moto.

"save up a little bit and get a T7" Really? So basically just save up an extra bikes worth ?

@ONYX-365

2 жыл бұрын

Is a T7 a Tenare or the Tracer?

The Honda is not geared right, I have one. I had to change the front sprocket to make it more usable on the interstate. I also have a 2015 V-Strom 650 and the two bikes don't really compare well even though they are both great bikes.😮

@richardhretczak536

Ай бұрын

And which one you ride more often?

Versys 650 GT?

Pick the one with the biggest exhaust pipe👍😁

Suzuki 650.....when are you planning to get an update? Versys 650 has got it already.

@motobob

Жыл бұрын

700 parallel twin coming soon apparently!

180 degree parallel twins just sound like single cylinders to me

A bit of an unfair comparison, at 150cc (almost 25%) larger capacity the V Strom is always going to perform better and while I know it's hard to quantify, there is the servicing and reliability to factor in, though I admit, both have very solid reputations. Neither are true ADV bikes, just pretenders for the image conscious.

@alphacapo

Жыл бұрын

They are more versitile than the naked versions

@nyedavis922

Жыл бұрын

How are you going to call these bikes pretenders? The DL and CB have been to more places, logged more travel miles and crossed more continents than any KTM / BMW. I love my KTM, but these bikes are as accomplished as they come in the adv segment

@bschoer3492

Жыл бұрын

These are peak adventure bikes! Light and nimble for getting muddy yet still got enough power for the highways. Nothing better (yet)

Yah chickened out and botched the off-road category here Bob, by virtue of it's weight the cb wins on this point. Then you left off range as a category and the cb wins here too, Verdict ...a tie. It comes down to: do you want an ugly heavy bike that does 70 mph a little better or a lighter easier to ride nice looking bike that is fantastic up to 60 mph.

Like the Suzuki.. but bought the CB 500X

The CB500X sounds so much better!

This is not the last model of the CB500X. Good video anyway.

in my country suzuki is 9850 euros and the honda 7990 .for 2k difference the honda is unbeatable

Vstrom all the way. If you can deal with the fugly headlight. It’s a better bike all round. CB still a great bike but Vstrom is holistically better except for looks 😂

It's a very fair assessment on paper. However having ridden both of these bikes I find the Honda a much smoother ride. Speaking as a novice to intermediate rider the 500x is more forgiving for novice riders. The V-strom has more power and wants to pull more and had a very jerky throttle. It could just have been the version that I was riding. But I've ridden several 500x now and I find it compensates for my lack of skill. It's very comfortable in the lower rev range and also you have to push the revs very hard to get it to redline. I was coming up a hill in 2nd and the terrain chainged in a way I wasn't used to and I switched to 1st and it spiked to 8000pm for about 10 seconds before the terrain changed again leveling out and she increased only 1 temperature bar for a few minutes. I'm not sure I could say the same for the V-strom. It's definitely not a beginner friendly bike.

I'll take the bike that does not give you trouble passing cars on a highway going 70 mph.