I currently own both the CRF300 Rally and the DR, and I've decided to part ways with the CRF300. The CRF simply lacks the torque of the DR, and its higher center of gravity doesn't suit my riding style. It requires aggressive revving to stay in the power band; otherwise, it quickly falls flat. I've become a big fan of the DR-it's a game changer for me. While the CRF300 Rally is fine for non-highway use and performs decently off-road when you can keep it revved up, it's not ideal for highway or overtaking scenarios. It's a 286cc engine, so expectations should match its capacity. This bike is perfect if you trailer it to your riding destination and use it solely for aggressive dirt riding. Having experienced both bikes, I would choose the DR every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Although the DR lacks ABS and fuel injection, its other qualities more than make up for these omissions. I wouldn't put the CRF in the same category as the DR. The CRF might work well in places like Thailand, or for riders who weigh up to 80kg, but in terms of power, the DR outperforms the CRF by a significant margin. The DR is versatile, reliable, and practically bulletproof.

I think these are great motorcycles to compare. The CRF300 Rally is basically a dual sport cosplaying as an adventure bike, while the DR650 is an adventure bike playing as if its a dual sport. Both bikes land in that middle ground on paper, seemingly able to do highways with some comfort but also be capable enough for some single track. And of course, everyone says that they both have really soft suspension which keeps you from being able to push the bike hard.

Glad I switched from ADV to my 300L. Off-road has never been more fun

Still enjoying my 41 year old 1983 Honda XL600R that weights 327# wet. Reliable as ever, don't even have a battery in it.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Nice! I still want to test the Xr650l.

@gedgetips

Ай бұрын

I purchased my 1983 Honda XL600R new and have been riding it ever since. It is stock except for going with a 39 tooth rear sprocket for highway travel. Then use a 13 or 14 tooth front sprocket for dirt riding, other with standard 15 tooth front. Other than a windshield, rear rack, and bags, I haven't modified very much on it. Did recently overhaul the engine but still going with original piston and crank, but did have to get a new camshaft and cam chain, along with valve springs and lifters. Use Shell Rotella T6 oil in 15W-40 full synthetic.

@pvbarbell1904

28 күн бұрын

I sold my XL600 back in the early 90's with around 8000 miles on it. Wish I still had it. I did just buy a Honda CRF300L, but I liked the XL better. Even back then it had a much better suspension.

@chillinchevapchichi

15 күн бұрын

Those are rad bikes, I've been coveting for years.

Another high quality and unbiased video! Keep up the great work!

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Thanks dude, thanks for watching

A 400 big bore kit for the CRF would make it perfect.

@alexbouma9330

28 күн бұрын

There is a big bore kit but it's only 301.

Just a couple of observations: after owning the 300 for almost 2 years and never taken it off road, I can say that the soft suspension is great going over speed humps but it's also a little scary in 25 mph crosswind.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Haha lighter bikes are like that in wind.

Hey, Great video. What seat pad/cover are you running on the rally?

Great review/advice brother. Keep them coming

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Thank you, and I appreciate the great words.

Wow, what a flashback! I left south Jersey 11 years ago. I use to run my DR650 and Husky 449 on those trails. I was only a mile or two away from the racetrack. I hear it's closed now. The best thing I did was get out of Jersey. Damn, I miss all those trails, and WaWa also, of course.

That's like trying to pick which one of your kids is your favorite... I did sell my first ADV built DR, only to get another new one 2 years later. I guess, for me, it's the CRF. It ticks all the boxes while still being highly fuel efficient. I'm super stoked to have both though.

Rally top speed (wish it could do 90 comfortably) and suspension is my only complaint. As my daily driver, rain, freeze, or 115⁰.... 70mpg and ABSOLUTELY zero maintenance, it will live in my heart forever. Put the windshield extender on there. It makes so much of a difference. I think both my rims are out of balance. I don't ride hard enough to blame myself. Eventually ill be able to have a shop center them

Another great vid. if yo ucan have two bikes, these two are among the best, complimentary pair you can have! Ride on, brother!

17:00 i had the 250. I treated that bike like ABSOLUTE garbage. Dropped, ran pegged out (75 on dash, 70 on gps), 33k with no valve adjustment... totaled out and got the 300. So much happier.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Haha yeah it happens. Glad you found the good bike for you now!

@suzyamerica4679

Ай бұрын

Err isn't the '300' really a 286? How much difference can 36cc make? (disclaimer, still beating the pss out of my modified 250 and using it for distance dual sport trips)

@jeffalley4417

Ай бұрын

@suzyamerica4679 brother, as far as I'm concerned.... ALLOT. IN 6TH, you had ZERO passing power. Wind would knock you down. With the 300, all that's gone

@suzyamerica4679

Ай бұрын

@@jeffalley4417 Agree on that part. So I usually gear down my 250 and sacrifice some of the 6th gear speed, which is really available only during downslopes, tailwinds, or something to draft behind.

@jeffalley4417

Ай бұрын

@suzyamerica4679 the most common speed limit I have is 55. the shifty part is, to keep up with everyone and not get smoked, you have to travel around 65mph. The 250 felt like riding a hand grenade. I wonder how the 300 would handle a little more speed....

Good review Andrew, and spot on with the analysis. The only point missing is that this always boils down to personal preference and that comes down to experience and time in the saddle. This discussion is just so wide at this point there will always be the ‘why didn’t you include ( insert here; XR 650, DRZ, KLX, KLR, WR, TW and probably the XT? Then come all the high dollar folks who can’t see beyond KTM and Husky. T hi a is also the joy of the discussion, there is just something out there for us all and though it seems pretty easy for any given manufacturer to build the Unicorn bike, I just don’t ever seeing that happen🤨. I have an ‘06 DR and it still puts the biggest grin on my face even with multiple steeds to choose from. Keep on plugging the highlights and exposing the low lights and maybe one day we will all be riding that Super Nova, all purpose wonder bike with the perfect cc’s, optimal performance for mere pennies and no need for aftermarket🤔. Ya, when pigs fly right. For now all us riding artists have plenty of options to create with👏

Nice video. Both are good bikes and each has advantages and disadvantages.

I just picked up a crf300L yesterday off craigslist. has 985 miles on it for $4000. I was very excited about that. this is the second video I watched of yours. I bought the bike on a whim but you made me feel like I made a lucky choice. I am in san antonio texas. I have no idea where I am going to be able to ride this thing. any ideas would be appreciated.

Really nice video! I love both bikes!

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Thanks and I do as well. I have done a 4 day 500+ mile motorcycle camping trip on the 300L rally then the next year I did the same trip and let my buddy use the rally and I used the DR650. Great bikes overall.

@fuelphil

Ай бұрын

I want to buy a new bike when I’m back in Australia, was looking for them both, but saw the DR650 is not continued in Australia. So I guess it will be a crf300l, if there is no nice DR650 on the used market.

@MotoCocoTV

Ай бұрын

​@@fuelphilI'm heading to OZ for a year, solo female ride, I'm probably going with the DR400 or even an older Dakar...

@fuelphil

Ай бұрын

Sounds amazing! Do you know your route though Australia? The DRZ is pretty high, I had one back 2018, but also a beautiful bike!

@thefathippy

Ай бұрын

​@@fuelphil there seem to be lots of used DRs for sale, but many owners are...umm...let's say "ambitious" when setting sell prices. I had one from 2017-2023, great bike, but wouldn't pay the prices many currently ask.

Thanks for this comparison. I am looking for a motorcycle for a first time rider friend. He really has no experience so whilst I really like the DR650, it has no abs and is probably too big of a bike for a newbie.

Excellent review! I currently ride a 701 and wish it was built by Honda.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Haha, well the 701/690 platform are great motorcycles. The 690 adventure is a bike I really enjoy.

Great comparison, its def hard to choose between these two. I went with the DR. Also its fairly easy and cheap to drop about 25lbs off the dr which brings its weight much closer to the honda. Tho id probably compare the DR to the base crf300L rather than the rally version.

Just completed over 500 miles thru the Utah desert on my 300 Rally and it was wonderful. Rally Raid suspension was poetry in motion and the windshield extender was great for the small highway bits. Not once did I wish for more power in the dirt but I plan on exhaust and ecu for road in the future. As close to a unicorn bike for me as I'm gonna get. Still keep my TW200 for the knarly single track tho.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Interesting, so you prefer the tw on single track?

@givannimikel4586

29 күн бұрын

@MotorcyclesOffroad Yeah, mainly because I'm a shorty and it's much lower than the Rally. The TW is also much lighter and I've geared it way down and upgraded it to be a dirt only machine.

It seems like a DRZ400S and the CRF300L would be a closer comparison. Like everyone says though, the DRZ needs that 6th gear or at least a taller 5th gear. Maybe a little wider spread on all 5 gears with 1st being lower but as you said, this video isn't about that bike. If I had to choose between the two bikes in this video, not off the showroom floor, it would have to be the DR if I were going to do any real miles at speeds above 65 mph but if not the the CRF would be my pick.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Yeah the 300L is a direct competitor to the DRZ. I do have that comparison on the channel as well. These 2 are more of an adventure trim let's say.

@suzyamerica4679

Ай бұрын

The DRZ400 is one if the few of this class I haven't tried yet - some friends are kind enough to swap bikes now and then. If someone handed me $5K to put together a rugged off-road-capable adventure bike I'd probably start with the XR650L and modify it. Stepfather lets me borrow his, and after about a thousand miles of abusing it I can say it's one of the more bulletproof bikes of its class. Easy to fix, and little that goes wrong with it. I even like the stock suspension as is, which saves a lot of money.

If have a DR350SE with a pumper carb, a CRF 300 rally and a TTR600. The 350 has the best offroad engine but the suspension is old skool, the rally has Ktech and handles really well, amazing mpg, just lacks a bit of grunt, took it around Morocco. The TTR goes really well, stays with modern twins offroad but it's thirsty ( has a 20L tank fitted) , great brakes, decent suspension

Interesting that it looks like you had an XT on the trip with you, but didn't mention that in the same breath - reliable simple dual sport.

The CRF 300L Rally has a twitchy throttle. Takes getting used to. First gear is the worst. Had some stalls too (even when just at idle). Still, I love my Rally. Beyond smooth clutch. I lowered it with a Koubalink and dropped the forks, so I can now flat-foot it. Will go with 19"/17" wheels soon. More tire choices for 50/50 riding. Thanks for all the 300 videos.

@dickwest6018

Ай бұрын

Go with a 550 Performance ECU. That fixes everything.

@BillySBC

Ай бұрын

That's because a computer is TRYING to do what a carburetor does organically.

I still miss my big blue DR650SE w/ $3k in mods and that was all just bolt on s from ProCycle I have Husky 501 now and its great especially in tight trails but on double track or roads I might prefer the DR650 for half the money and more reliability.

fun factor is decided on a dual sport by how well and how easily it can wheelie! My 97 XR600 with Baja kit could pull the front end up with a little tug, theottle and clutch finese . Simple with less tech is best. If that CRF was only fit with the old XL500 engine it would be a way better and more capable dual sport. The Dr650 is highly praised when modified and it vecome very capable. Lots of aftermarket kit for it which also makes it easy to set up to your liking. this was a Good comparison to do

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

The XR600 is a beast. I had the XR400r once, it was awesome offroad.

I’ve done comparison vids. It is amazing how you always get the “you can’t compare these bikes!” Comments. When clearly you can compare anything you like.

What's the seat cover you have on the CRF?

Like the DR650 coverage, you ride same areas i do. I have my woods weapons for ECEA events & thinking the DR might be a good addition replacing my street bike. Riding to the Pine Barrons and back using Main roads/highways how stable is the bike?

The reason I ride a 2nd gen klr,that said it was a close call between the klr and Dr. The klr won out due to its fuel capacity and already having full fairings stock,but the Dr is still a great bike in own right.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

The KLR is also a special bike. I see it as more road oriented, but I feel it is reliable and the best bang for your buck then it comes to cost.

@MontanaDirtRoads

Ай бұрын

Foe the riding I do it's the best fit, most single tracks in montana is way too aggressive for a klr and most my off road is on 2 track and forestry roads.some of my trips have had 800+ miles of slab just for maybe 70-120 miles of dirt lol.

Which phone mount do you use? The comments are for channel engagement and i watch the ads all the way through.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Hey Jeff you don't have to watch the ads through. They took away our option to change or customize the ads. Sp they are what they are, but I dobt remember off the top of my head. It's a no name brand and it's fantastic, I even have footage for a video of it. Maybe I should do that since you asked.

@jeffalley4417

Ай бұрын

@MotorcyclesOffroad I lost my last phone at 70 with the ram X. One of the rubber bushings came free and there was no stopping it. I can usually catch it... no chance this time

Yeah a lot of us old codgers have bikes that have nothing but a magneto. Though if the mag fails parts can be all kinds of fun.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Haha 😄

Is your 300L rally the one with the ECU flash that requires premium gas? If so it cuts the advantage of fuel economy a bit.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

I took that in consideration when doing the video, both backs have alterations to jets/ecu so I used the standard manufacturer fuel economy in the slide.

So tuning the 300 to do what the DR does stock on the hwy and tuning it to do better than a torquey stock DR off-road seems like just buying a DR and making it lighter would solve the issues, and cost less. Stressing a small engine like the 300 for more hp then winding its RPM way up since it had to be geared down to match the DR all to run for 6hrs on the freeway seems questionable IMO for longevity. Especially since after tuning the 300 would match the DRs mpg, literally. But to each their own. Side note: Suzuki literally invented the "Dual Sport" name. That was their branding.

Torque usually wins. I like the the DR, my riding buddy has one and it's a phenomenal bike. Personally, I ride LC4's, I've had every version from the 620, 625, 640, and now a 690 with 21,000 miles and zero mechanical issues.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

27 күн бұрын

Nice, I had a LC4 640.

I have to ask , what trail system are you riding? They look awesome!

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Im the videos I am riding in NJ, PA, and MD. Mostly NJ

@acuraintegrar5

Ай бұрын

⁠@@MotorcyclesOffroadim in upstate NY, i did not know that nj had trails like this. Are they open to everyone or do you need a pass?

@nickhillman7092

Ай бұрын

Wharton State Forest and Bass River State Forest, New Jersey great place for sport riding must have license plates

@acuraintegrar5

28 күн бұрын

Awesome thanks i appreciate it. Can you ride there with out of state plates?

Love my Dr; I take it to the nastiest places on earth and never wonder if it will stay running!!

Love my 450RL. Dual sport guys say it’s too much of a dirt bike. Dirt bike guys say it’s too much of a dual sport 🤣

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

It definitely is a between of the 2 lol. It sacrifices the power of the R for street legality but still maintains short service interval of 800 miles oil and value checks about twice as often. I have only rode one once, it has ton of power. Kinda reminds me of any ktm I rode.

@butterytoast4836

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad Thankfully it’s a Honda through and through. The oil changes can be extended to 12-1500 depending on your type of riding. The guy I watch (John T Young) still didn’t have to do a valve adjustment at 10,000 miles on his 450L. He’s had over 20,000 miles on his with no trouble. My bike is approaching 4,000 and still has its valves right at where they were when I did its initial inspection.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

@butterytoast4836 ahh gotcha, for me I would have it in my mind every time I went out of u didn't atleast throw the feeler gauge under it every once in a while. 10,000 seems like a lot to me, I though it's insane that the 300L/rally call for 16,000 miles on valve. Have mutiple bikes it would take me a few years to reach that. So I just try to do a valve check every other year.

@rantANDrave1987

Ай бұрын

@@butterytoast4836what milage did you first check

@butterytoast4836

Ай бұрын

@@rantANDrave1987 I skipped over the 600 mile inspection and did mine at 1800 miles. I’ve checked them again at 3200 miles and they’re still in the same place right in spec. I do a mix of single/double track and a bit of riding on the road to reach the state forests in NJ.

I am a prepper. I am afraid of an emp. I’d still prefer fuel injection (hence why I bought a 300 rally). As much as I’m afraid an emp will fry my bike, I also have a feeling that all you’ll have to do is turn the key off and on again and it will fire up again due to how computer systems are designed today.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Yeah I have read that as well. Or keep it in a tin shed lol

@DrSmile81

29 күн бұрын

Just get yourself a bycicle and be happy. No worry about emp, no worry about fuel, no worry about noise, now worry about people which wanna get your fancy prepper bike with tons of stuff and gear on it. the first things you drop in a real emergency situation is always your fancy stuff you have in non emergency situations anyway.

Honda needs to make a crf500l in the vein of 300l, but unlike the 450rl

I own a 300L. Used to own the DR650. I still dont know which bike I prefer.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Haha riding both back to back I can say they both are great. Neither perfect but I like both.

I have a 23 CRF300 LS, and a 03 DR650, two different animals, just did 2,535 miles in to Mexico on my DR, it involved a lot of hi way, I would not do that with my CRF, Baja roads the LS would be ok

In countries with mountains over 2000 meters high, the DR does not work well because it is carbureted

Bring the XR650L in this equation

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

I have been looking! If I find one at a price/mods I find reasonable for my area I will definitely have one on the channel

@dr.x4050

Ай бұрын

The DRZ seems like a better match for the XR650L. Both don't have CUSH drives. That makes these bikes more dirt focused than the DR/300L

@ogoshikimura5621

Ай бұрын

@@dr.x4050 the hub would be the least to think of, both have 5 speeds, standard suspension, carbureted 650s. But in the wheel selection the XR is closer to the CRF. However, I find he should compare all 3, they are at a similar price point as mentioned and made for the same customer group.

@BillySBC

Ай бұрын

Excellent bike. Not as good as the DR650 but a dead reliable dualsport in any case.

Should be comparing the ZDrz400 to THE CRF not the 650 but the 400 would still be the clear winner so it doesn't really matter. CRFis a great bike for a light weight rider with no desire for power or good suspension

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

This is the heavy "dual sport" /semi Adv bike from both manufacturers. The CRF300L is a good comparison to the DRZ400 which I have done but the rally is a light Adv bike basically like the DR. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g5l626SGes6zobw.html

I hope you will review the CFMOTO 450MT when it gets to the US.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

I haven't really seen to much about it. Is it a bike you are excited for?

@LuckyNikitaBoba

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad Yes! It's because, although I'm an experienced off-road rider, I'm a small and short in sature. The bike of this low seat height would be ideal for someone like me. I'm very close to buying a used CRF300L Rally though. The Honda is so light compare to other 430 lbs plus bikes.

Like to see a CRF300 VS XR650L comparison.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

29 күн бұрын

I have yet to ride a XR650l but I am interested and looking for one.

I regularly get 56mpg on my dr, the bigger tank gives me over 250 mile range, I have never run it dry

@MotorcyclesOffroad

27 күн бұрын

Nice, mine would be at 40-42mpg If I was on mainly road I think it would do better, but I always ride a mix.

Dr650 with EFI and ABS would be my dream bike !!!

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

I would just love for the 300s transmission. Then the DR would be a destroyer, I could sprocket it down for single trail but still have the legs of the 6th, it would go like 100mph with that trans lmao

@ogoshikimura5621

Ай бұрын

Doubt it. That’s what they said about the KLR and once it was released it only received hate.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

@ogoshikimura5621 yeah I don't know why, to be honest the KLR is probably the best bang for your buck adventure bike you can buy today. I personally have no problem with it, yeah it's heavy and can be a dog but you know what your getting. In motorcycles you can never have everything you get a great price and amazon reliability with the KLR. I would be happy with it.

@ogoshikimura5621

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad that’s because this community is driven by forums and not by actual real life experiences. Riding off road is a sport that you need to learn. There is technique and training, but in the forum it’s just about equipment, gear and spec sheets.

@intrigue175175

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad The DR tops at 100mph per GPS when tuned.

I'm old , have crf1000, and 300. Both bikes have their place, on road the 1000 is awesome, in the woods the 300 is my choice every time. Having both bikes is the only way to go.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

I agree, this is why I had the T7 and 300L. But now it's DR650, CRF300L rally, and a street legal KDX200 for the woods.

Omg. The range is a deal breaker for me. It can't not be a light adventure bike.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

For the DR? I can see that, that's why there is mutiple options on the market to fix this.

CRF300L Rally is way ahead when it comes to real offroad Adventure, unlike onroad "adventure"

@BillySBC

Ай бұрын

Until a stick goes through your radiator in the middle of nowhere... Until your fuel injection pump fails 70 miles from a paved road. Until your water pump quits in the middle of a rainstorm. Until your thermostat decides to stick shut and overheat your motor. Until your fuel injectors bite the dust in the middle of the desert in the summertime. Starting to get the point here?

@willisbcteoh9840

Ай бұрын

​@@BillySBCunless unless unless 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@BillySBC

Ай бұрын

@@willisbcteoh9840 It's a great bike, but I wouldn't wander too offroad with it, because you don't wanna be where a tow truck can't get to you.

@willisbcteoh9840

29 күн бұрын

​@@BillySBCkeep dreaming

Seems like everyone forget the real king of dualsports xt660 R

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Mostly people care to see bikes compared that are still sold currently.

@FaetalEU

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad fair enough 😄 the xt660 should still be sold ! And make one with a 6-speed. That'd be the true unicorn we all want 😄

👍

@MotorcyclesOffroad

27 күн бұрын

Thank you

Sorry, but in 2024 I could never invest in a bike with a halogen headlight and lack of fuel injection, no matter what the other pros might be in its favor. I could have bought the same bike twenty years ago.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Haha it's funny how many opposites and different options have come from this video. It seems some people hate the Idea of the DR and some love it over everything else. To the DRs credit tho, you can mod everything out. Like that light for example.

Even with premium fuel, you'll get 72 if you baby the 300. Otherwise, it's 68-70

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Well I'm not completely sure tbh, mine were never stock for very long. I am going by the reported stock numbers. I think mine with a stage one kit was just a little shy of that.

@jeffalley4417

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad if you were getting about 65 after performance mods... that's WELL worth it bro

Why compare the dr650 with the 300l? They're both dual sport but very different classes. A dr650 vs xr650l would be better comparison as they're actually similar bikes.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

27 күн бұрын

Ok well since I feel like you are generally asking and not trying to be a jerk like the few people who are asking that question on FB I can for sure answer. Firstly did you watch the video?

Why not compare the DRZ 400 in lieu of the 650.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

26 күн бұрын

CRF300L VS DRZ400 kzread.info/dash/bejne/g5l626SGes6zobw.html

Both great bikes. You do realize you are comparing a 288cc motor against a 650cc motor.... Is that fair? At any rate, the CRF has a better cockpit feel and is 60 pounds lighter. (CRF300L is 303 pounds w/o abs or rally) The DR tech (or lack thereof) will never leave you stranded... Both great bikes.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

14 күн бұрын

They are 10% different I'm weight, both do things better then the other. It's a main point to make because as a new bike they are very close in MSRP, only 900$ different.

Let me know if you wanna test a KTM EXCF 350 in the Pine Barrens.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Thats awesome thanks for the offer. I had access to the 520Excf for a few years. It was stored in a pole barn and my buddy said ride it whenever. But I would defiantly be interested. I am really looking to get my hands on a XR650L, KTM690 (I used to have the LC4 640) and a KLX300 for full review.

@suzyamerica4679

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad Would love to see your take on the XR650L. I get to borrow one of those sometimes. I've abused it pretty hard on long dual sport rides. The usual thing I ride on dirt is a modded KDX220R. The XR650L with hard-rubber knobbies will get you spin happy on dirt & gravel. If you know dirtbikes it feels almost just like a big one. Gobs of torque if you uncork it a little, though not the power/weight ratio of a punchy 2stroke.

Where are these numbers from google says dr650 has 36hp

@MotorcyclesOffroad

18 күн бұрын

Where are What numbers? And what do you mean Google says. Google is just grabbing a random text from a first hit article, there is no verification of fact going on there. I don't have the information in front of me at the moment but I'm if I remember right the DR650 has 43pr so crank hp.

The big bike better

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

I know what you are trying to say about bigger but you mean more displacement, my honda is a bit bigger. With the CRF's aftermarket suspension and it's ferrings it sits higher as wider.

There is no comparison, the DR650 is far and away a better dual-sport and adventure bike simply because it has none of the electronic devices to fail out on the trail that the Honda does. When you're talking real adventure, getting out into places where a failure can really be bad and in some cases life-threatening, then you want to keep things as simple as possible and the DR650 does that hands down. Winner: DR650

@DrSmile81

Ай бұрын

You wont get there anyway before running out of gas 🙃

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

So how many people do you know where the honda has failed them?

@BillySBC

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad That's not the point though, I love Honda, my first motorcycle many years ago was a used 1974 CB550 so I go back a long way with Honda, best motorcycle company on the planet hands down, but the fact is you're dragging unwanted technology out on the trail with you to remote places, and if you're going to go with the Honda you should probably choose the XR650L over the CRF300L just due to the XR's simplicity.

@DrSmile81

Ай бұрын

@@BillySBC So all the gear you have with you is spare parts, spare oil (rfvc needs constant oil changes and every 2nd oil change valve adjustement) and spare fuel....i dont know, today i would go with a rieju aventura on a real outback trip with a simple app on the phone to see what is electric problem when it would get some...but on the other hand, every mechanic in hillbilly outback land knows how tech of 1960 rfvc works but the few electronic parts of honda rfvc bikes have also isnt known for relaiablitiy (cdi, ignition in general....dont know if they fixed the low powered rotator till now).....what do you trade of? I would go with lightest bike with the lowest fuelconsumption...everything else can and will brake sometime and somewhere anyway.

@thefathippy

Ай бұрын

DRs can also leave you stranded outback. Sometimes on separate trips. 🤷 I don't blame the bike. $hit happens no matter what brand of bike you prefer. Don't drink any brand's Kool-Aid and you'll be right. But be prepared in case it happens on your trip.

The DR650 is the clear winner at everything but MPG. The CRF300L can't do highway speed to get to the trails.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

I respect your opinion but I have to disagree, I have used the rally on the highway with no issues. I will also succeed and say mine is has a stage 1.0 performance kit. Soon to be more.

@localresident7826

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad I agree and the 1.5 performance is the sweet spot for me.

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

@@localresident7826 I'm thinking of doing the cams now since it's been long enough were the tunes have caught up. So maybe I will have a video on that sometime in the near future

@jonwoodworker

Ай бұрын

@MotorcyclesOffroad Then you are not comparing the two correctly. You can also modify the DR650 to a level the 300 could never achieve. In stock form, the CRF300 is dangerous on the highway. The DR650 will cruze all day long at 80 with more to spare, if needed. I'm not a CRF300 hater, just being realistic.

@intrigue175175

Ай бұрын

The 300 gets the same mpg as the DR after a full tune. My buddy has one and has verified he only gets about 110-115 before reserve or gas indicator. Same as the DR.

APPLES TO APPLES or in this case HONDA to HONDA .... you screwed the admirals pooch boys!! XR650L v CRF300L take it down and do it RIGHT

@MotorcyclesOffroad

26 күн бұрын

lol why would I take it down?! And I dont have an XR650L atm

It highly amuses me you guys don't like riding through water puddles ...

@MotorcyclesOffroad

28 күн бұрын

Why ride through them?

@tribalbc

24 күн бұрын

Because if you have truly ridden through enough of them you realize there is no way to tell the difference between a bike drowner and 6 inches of water. Keep going straight through the middle of them all and see how that works out for you.

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the title should've been "Who Cares ?! "

@MotorcyclesOffroad

Ай бұрын

Yeah? Why is that?

@eyalcr500

Ай бұрын

@@MotorcyclesOffroad I had a DR 600 many years ago, and a 650 after it, I understood one thing - if you want a road bike get one, if you want a dirt bike, get one.... don't expect the "dual bullcrap" to give you any enjoyment. That's in case you can only have one bike. If you can have more, and enjoy those breed of bikes, well that's another story. just my opinion sorry ...tough decisions in life

@TheRealSykx

29 күн бұрын

@@eyalcr500 some can't afford multiple bikes, nor have the room for storing them or the means to transport them and want something they can ride to the trail and then ride the trail. Ya see what I'm sayin?

@eyalcr500

28 күн бұрын

yes Sir, of course I see ! I am one of those guys , can't afford 2 bikes, have only one bike, don't even have a trailer to tow it - and because of that i chose one option , an off road bike (... not that I'm a big bad pro rider...) and only ride off road, but when I ride - I RIDE ! but, if one is willing to live with a dual purpose bike , that's his choice ! what i meant is that those bikes don't give enough fun, they are limited by nature, thus don't thrill (me , at least...) and so miss the point of "fun"

@TheRealSykx

28 күн бұрын

@@eyalcr500 for some the fun is in the journey and not the speed, some also enjoy a challenge