Suppressed SBRs For Home Defense? - 9mm vs .300 Blackout

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I believe in having every advantage possible, when it comes to my home defense firearm setup. With that being said, I think the ultimate home defense setup is a suppressed short-barreled rifle. The question, then, comes down to caliber choice. Do you go with a 9mm Pistol Caliber Carbine or do you go with a rifle caliber, specifically .300 Blackout? They both perform well out of shorter barrels, which means you can keep an overall compact form factor and they both suppress really well, especially if you choose the subsonic ammunition. Let me know which one you would choose for home defense in the Comments and don't forget to Subscribe!
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  • @picturesin3609
    @picturesin36092 ай бұрын

    I'm going with the 9mm. I love my 300 but do not shoot it nearly as much as my 9. I'm a big fan of practice.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree with that. It definitely hurts less to shoot a lot of 9mm than a bunch of .300 Blackout.

  • @larrybuttress2594
    @larrybuttress25942 ай бұрын

    I'm perfectly confident with my HK MP5 for home defense. It's a suppressed SBR and of course in 9mm.

  • @toddwatts3768
    @toddwatts37682 ай бұрын

    Another good video. The military special forces wanted to replace the 9mm for a reason. Not that 9mm can’t work, because it can. I have 300blk 8” and 9mm 8”. My wife uses the 9mm, I use the 300blk. Primarily because she can handle 9mm recoil better. Both suppressed. As far as penetration: with the great choices of 300 blk ammo, there is really no reason to not be able to find great supersonic ammo that won’t over penetrate, especially some of the 110 gr self defense loads. In fact, there have been studies that show that 9mm, 45 acp, 300blk subsonic actually penetrate more through drywall, etc… than great 110gr 300 blk self defense ammo. But, both are good choices for self defense. Both of these 2 guns you built are great choices. just pick the correct ammo for the situation

  • @ValorLife
    @ValorLife2 ай бұрын

    B&T GHM9C w/ Dead Air Mojave 9 in short configuration

  • @JinSage
    @JinSage2 ай бұрын

    300BLK is the clear choice A 300BLK SBR is by far the best home-defense firearm one can have

  • @ronparker8391

    @ronparker8391

    2 ай бұрын

    its not even debatable. waste of time. dude just wanted to show off his sbrs

  • @terrarecon

    @terrarecon

    Ай бұрын

    There is a place for 12GA shotguns. What people prefer is another matter.

  • @flipperzero9662

    @flipperzero9662

    29 күн бұрын

    People like you act like 9mm isn't capable. It's plenty lethal, it's quieter than 300b, there's better hollow tips, and due to better hollows it has less overpenetration risks. To say there's a clear winner is ridiculous.

  • @ronparker8391

    @ronparker8391

    29 күн бұрын

    @@flipperzero9662 9mm is plenty capable. Comparable to a rifle round? Not so much.

  • @haltodd3854
    @haltodd38542 ай бұрын

    I am going with a CZ Scorpion 3+ 7" with a SB Trac Brace, Holosun 512 and Dead Air Wolfman - enjoying your channel -

  • @kylees07
    @kylees072 ай бұрын

    Agreed, the whole point of having it is specifically for self defense. Something that most people will go their entire lives without ever experiencing. That stuff can always be replaced if it’s not returned for whatever reason.

  • @frope01
    @frope012 ай бұрын

    I chose the 300 for my main home defense. There is a 9mm PCC available at all times but I’m grabbing the 300 first.

  • @Disastrous.Affect
    @Disastrous.Affect2 ай бұрын

    I think a suppressed SBR is perfect for home defense. My "bump in the night" gun is a braced 10mm CMMG Banshee, I plan on having it suppressed and thermal optics on it.😀

  • @kamaseya
    @kamaseyaАй бұрын

    AR Pistol 8.5" barrel suppressed with a suppressed bolt carrier. Designed for shorter range. I use the .223 round and expect it to do well. Will have over penetration for the house but should be effective enough and rain hell on some one with body armor. I can always step it up to 5.56 for a little more power. It won't destroy my hearing but should still be a bit loud in the home and property. I still got the Sig P229 for a backup. My twist on the subject. I do have other options if I change my mind.

  • @nightraver56
    @nightraver562 ай бұрын

    I made the choice to buy a pinned YHM Resonator supressor on a 9" barrel upper, Supressor is legally part of the barrel since pinned, total "barrel" length is 16" so only 1 $200 tax stamp for the supressor, no need for a $200 sbr tax stamp. YHM upper using a gas block optimized for the YHM Resonator, but the big kicker is SBRs are restricted to state of registration you must file a form notifying the BATFE anytime you take an NFA item out of state. ....except for supressors! So a "pinned & welded" supressor gives you SBR-supressor barrel length, without the onerous BATFE reporting requirements to trqvel with ut to your buddy or competition next state

  • @ecobasetech4558

    @ecobasetech4558

    2 ай бұрын

    You can also use a braced pistol and don't have to get the King's permission to take it across state lines.

  • @nightraver56

    @nightraver56

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ecobasetech4558 yup but the "Pistol Brace" is now stuck in court limbo with BATFE declaring "pistol-brace now = SBR" & 14 state attorneys general taking the BATFE to federal court over a bullshit arbitrary ruling that potentially makes 200,000 pistol brace owners felons since they bought it without paying a $200 tax stamp & waiting a year for BATFE to Adolf Hitler their way through their shake down. Until it's decided in court I won't go near a pistol brace, temporary injunctions to enforcement which then get overruled which then get refiled, the BATFE is a terorist organization that hates citizen-owned firearms & hates the US Constitution, not buying anything with a pistol brace till this is settled in Federal Court.

  • @danielblackwulf9466
    @danielblackwulf94662 ай бұрын

    I prefer .300 Blackout as a home defense weapon. Criminals today often use body armor but not armor that's rifle rated. The 9mm is very good and a reasonable option but cannot penetrate level IIIA armor. The 300 Blackout will punch holes in that every day of the week and twice on Sundays. My 300 Blackout SBR is also set up with the Delos QD barrel device on an 8.5 inch barrel and Law Tactical folder for the stock. Add the suppressor on and it is a decisive element in any CQB situation.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Supressed .300 Blackout is perfect for CQB, in my opinion.

  • @terrarecon

    @terrarecon

    Ай бұрын

    I am not sure I agree with the part where "criminals often use body armor." Don't take this as a knock on your preferred home defense choice, just saying I don't agree that most criminals breaking and entering are wearing body armor. Now, to your point 300 blk would mitigate up to level III. Yes.

  • @patriot4757
    @patriot47572 ай бұрын

    Scorpion with Wolfman

  • @shawnsmith2403

    @shawnsmith2403

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep. Braced scorpion pistol with Obsidian9.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Right on!

  • @namericanprepper4648

    @namericanprepper4648

    Ай бұрын

    Matador braced scorpion micro k. . To be exact The Evo 3 S2 drug force version with the 4" barrel that cost 2k Now Not the 4.(w.e) number barrel. The 4" ... with a YHM r45 holosun 507c and a streamlight tlrvir2 🤫

  • @tclow71
    @tclow712 ай бұрын

    My vote would be the 300blk. I am in the middle of getting one set up for a home defense gun, Here we go, another caliber to start stockpiling,

  • @Flynn_Stones
    @Flynn_Stones2 ай бұрын

    I like the concept of a gun in every room. Biometric handgun safes can be found for $100 or even less, and PSA daggers can be had for under $300. So it's definitely financially feasable for most people if they purchase for one room at a time. All that said, if I have an AR9 taking glock mags and a glock in every room, then I'm only ever a few steps away from a new magazine if in the unlikely scenerio of an all out firefight. For this purpose I'm looking into the angstad arms integerally supressed barrels for a suppressed AR9 SBR that wont rely on subsonic ammo to be indoors hearing safe

  • @x3dominator28
    @x3dominator282 ай бұрын

    In my opinion it’s smart to keep ear pro next to that rifle. Simply because your threat likely won’t have a can… and you don’t want to be concussed trying to protect your family.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    I think that is smart, too. I'm just not sure that getting ear pro on in the middle of the night is going to be my priority.

  • @teamstucker624
    @teamstucker624Ай бұрын

    Great video I'm a big .300blk fan for home defense and hunting it's my go to round in supersonic with a surefire blast diverter. I also run 9mm in all my carry guns. Now if I'm in the woods camping the defensive round changes from 9mm to 10mm or.357 mag for bear 🐻 defense.

  • @StevieG777
    @StevieG7772 ай бұрын

    Good vid and sweet setups. I’d probably just go 9mm suppressed over 300bo subs personally. But 300bo supers are obviously best for stopping power. They each have their pros and cons, no wrong answer really.

  • @chancellorpalpatine3352
    @chancellorpalpatine33522 ай бұрын

    Mossberg 590 20ga #3 buckshot

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Sounds good!

  • @threat2demoracy5454
    @threat2demoracy54542 ай бұрын

    Bro you remind me of CRS Firearms just not inbred. Im sorry I've been holding onto that joke for a bit. We all hope 4 his return. Thanks bud 😂

  • @Gnolomweb
    @Gnolomweb2 ай бұрын

    Chode suppressor/light combo. Thumbs up. Waiting for CAT ODB ti to get back in stock for my 300

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Nice! They make good suppressors.

  • @Maine307
    @Maine3072 ай бұрын

    this is my internal battle decision.. i want to do a 9mm home defense AR.. regardless of the NFA ( i agree with your concept..losing a life or a NFA) .. my issue is.. the barrel lenght..what is a small enough barrel that will still keep accurate at 30 meters or less. i am trying to research the best barrel for me... i like this video.. keep em going! cheers from the Maine woods!

  • @AA-yx2kf
    @AA-yx2kf2 ай бұрын

    Subsonic 300blk will pen through just as much dry wall. Remember even though that 220gr is going slower, it will carry its momentum better vs a lighter faster round will shed speed faster when it hits a barrier. But with that being said, id use 300blk supersonic ammo for the terminal balistics.

  • @threat2demoracy5454
    @threat2demoracy54542 ай бұрын

    I'd go 300. Have you seen the .338 spectra? Shtuff is badazz!

  • @320epdmk
    @320epdmk2 ай бұрын

    Update on my NFA status. I tried your tips from the previous vid and emailed and called NFA. The lady who took my call was very informative and helpful, BUT, after stating both my form 1 and 4 were received correctly and pending, all she could offer up was to reach out to the ATF "Ask the expert" tab on their portal. Form 1 waiting since Jan 12! Only one week in on Form 4. Here's to quieter shooting in 2025!!! LOL

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Dang! You sent the email to nicsliason@fbi.gov, too? I got a ton of comments from people who did that and got an approval the next day. I was hoping it would work for you, too.

  • @KretinD
    @KretinD2 ай бұрын

    512 on a unity riser is an absolute goat of a cqb optic setup

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree! The 512 is a really good optic, especially for CQB and the riser just makes it that much quicker and easier to pick up for me.

  • @user-vl8gc1ie9u
    @user-vl8gc1ie9u2 ай бұрын

    I use a Keltec KSG 12 gague

  • @GmanGSW
    @GmanGSW2 ай бұрын

    Either one is great. In a Condo, I'd use a 9mm. In a House 300 Blk. Either suppressed. Then again, you should be able to hit your target as you said... Also, try to use Subsonics. Just my thoughts. Good choices, nice build, brother!

  • @jedidiahwilliams9737
    @jedidiahwilliams97376 күн бұрын

    Interesting topic I never thought about (9mm vs 300blk in the home). That being said I would probably go for 9mm AR pistol (would go sbr if it wasn’t for the bs $200 tax stamp) in the house and have 300blk AR pistol for vehicle protection due to being able to reach out a little further but still being able to do close up work if needed.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    6 күн бұрын

    That makes perfect sense to me!

  • @Goldenwithaleash
    @GoldenwithaleashАй бұрын

    I went suppressed AR9 over .300BLK for a couple reasons. 1. Cheaper ammo allows me to train more 2. Same mags as my EDC allowing it to do double duty as my “truck gun” when i travel 3. One less cartridge I have stock up on 4. I already have a suppressed 11.5” 5.56 so a PCC filled a gap and I don’t have any desire to run .300 supersonic Nothing wrong with .300BLK, just didn’t make sense for me

  • @chriseltringham5964
    @chriseltringham5964Ай бұрын

    I’ve heard the opposite in regard to over penetration with 300 blackout. I thought supers had less chance of over penetration when compared to subs. A discussion about recommended defensive ammo for 300 blackout, 9mm, and 5.56 would be a welcomed video.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly, I've done a bunch of research on the subject and I've seen it stated both ways. Technically, light, fast rounds like 5.56 over-penetrate less than slow heavy rounds, which would leave me to believe that you're correct and Subs would penetrate more, but then I read articles stating the opposite, when it comes to .300 Blackout. I'll have to look into it more and make a well-informed video.

  • @chrisfisher3900
    @chrisfisher39002 ай бұрын

    300 blk but bullets are key. For home defense supers would by varmint bullets,subs would be lehigh defense maximum expansion and total chaos

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    Choosing the right round is definitely key.

  • @Marcusaurelius_a
    @Marcusaurelius_aАй бұрын

    Id choose whatever is closest to me at the time. They’re both pretty equivalent in my book.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    I do think they'd both probably be just fine.

  • @kevinleben579
    @kevinleben579Ай бұрын

    So you’re saying we should do a ballistic gel test of the platforms/rounds in question 🤔 9mm subs & supers vs 300 subs and supers. Then there’s the wildcard: ft Scott tui rounds. This is starting to sound costly 😂

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    I think we should DEFINITELY do a ballistic gel test of all of those rounds. That's a fantastic idea!

  • @andrewhubbard7097
    @andrewhubbard70972 ай бұрын

    11.5 5.56 suppressed. I'm not super concerned about slight hearing loss as the can mitigates the majority of the concussion. 5.56 doesn't penetrate walls as easy as 9mm or .300blk. Recoil is nearly non-existent. Training ammo is affordable.

  • @panthermark

    @panthermark

    Ай бұрын

    Penetration between 300blk and 5.56 is ammo dependent.

  • @andrewhubbard7097

    @andrewhubbard7097

    Ай бұрын

    @panthermark Slow heavy bullet is going to go right through drywall in a straight line. 55gr or light 5.56 has a much better chance of deflecting, is much cheaper, and easier to shoot. I'm no .300blk hater, but it's my travel gun purely for its size and ability to penetrate auto glass much better than 5.56.

  • @stephanarizona9094
    @stephanarizona90942 ай бұрын

    Both! For CQB/ Home Defense I have several tools purpose built for this situation, 300BLK Honey Badger, Flux Raider, B&T TP9, B&T GHM9, all small, light, maneuverable, all having suppressors, light, optics, and switches.

  • @Matt.e_Black
    @Matt.e_Black2 ай бұрын

    I also had to polish the feed ramp on my AR9

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Does it run reliably after doing that?

  • @Matt.e_Black

    @Matt.e_Black

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sawtoothtactical404 yes it does

  • @coolbeenes8308
    @coolbeenes83082 ай бұрын

    I have both a suppressed MPX 9mm and a 10 inch 300BO Daniel Defense. I have extended magazines for my MPX. Most punks are running handguns. 40 rounds of suppressed 9mm is going to get the job done. I have confidence in both platforms, but 9mm is what I’m using.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    The MPX is one of my favorite PCCs. I think you'll be alright with that setup.

  • @phantomstrike3310
    @phantomstrike33107 күн бұрын

    I love my HK SP5 build for sure. In total, gun and all, I think I have about $5000 into it. Ill take my 8.5 inch .300 BO anyday though. I put the SP5 in the safe. Its just such a nice piece and its so iconic. Will I shoot it again? yes. I will still take my .300 BO any day. Just as compact, and way more versatility

  • @celfToughtcitizen15-47
    @celfToughtcitizen15-472 ай бұрын

    300blk.

  • @nicknelson4693
    @nicknelson46932 ай бұрын

    You say you’ve always used that rifle for home defense. Didn’t you just SBR and get a suppressor for that rifle?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    It's been quite a while now. I've had the can for a long time and I was running it as a braced pistol before I SBRed it.

  • @stickfighter1038
    @stickfighter10382 ай бұрын

    300 BLK with subs has my current vote for home CQB.

  • @slh48
    @slh482 ай бұрын

    The 9mm especially sure you will have your concealed carry handgun right there with the rifle is crazy as it is these days you don’t know who’s coming and how many that’s what’s great about the 9mm

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    You can definitely dispense with a lot of rounds very quickly.

  • @chrisbounelis3489
    @chrisbounelis34892 ай бұрын

    300blackout

  • @Gnolomweb
    @Gnolomweb2 ай бұрын

    14:30 "in my safe" =/= " ready to go" =p

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    That is true, but stuff has to sit in the safe when I'm not at home.

  • @ecobasetech4558
    @ecobasetech45582 ай бұрын

    Hey Sawtooth, I have experienced a bit of disappointment with my first can. It's the YHM R9 and it does not sound quiet to me (running subs) on either of my PCCs with 16" barrels. Someone recently told me thst I just need to keep shooting through it and as the carbon builds up it will start sounding quieter the more I shoot it. Is there any truth to that idea?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    I think there's a little truth to that. Your Subsonic 9mm might be reaching Supersonic speeds with 16" barrels... I've really only heard good things about the YHM R9 and was even looking at getting one, myself. I think if you try a shorter barrel, your ammo won't be pushed to such high velocity and you might get better sound suppression with Subs.

  • @jklop7841
    @jklop7841Ай бұрын

    Could you do a video on the tape switch adapter you have on that stream light?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah. I kind of already did, actually. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yn2ipquEhcjZqtY.html

  • @jklop7841

    @jklop7841

    Ай бұрын

    @@sawtoothtactical404 thank you!

  • @jklop7841

    @jklop7841

    Ай бұрын

    I’m glad it’s been running reliably for ya!

  • @ClaynZaycaz
    @ClaynZaycaz2 ай бұрын

    Is there a reason you keep your optics close to the fronts of your rifles instead of the back towards the charging handle?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah. Red dots and Holographics have unlimited eye relief, so you don't need to have them close to your face. If you mount them farther forward, you have better situational awareness and can be target focused, instead of looking "through" a small tube. Your brain practically makes the optic housing disappear and all you see is the reticle transposed on your target.

  • @ClaynZaycaz

    @ClaynZaycaz

    2 ай бұрын

    Makes sense! Moving mine forward as we speak!!😂😂

  • @Danger30Q
    @Danger30Q2 ай бұрын

    Supersonic 110gr 300blk ammo will penetrate through walls significantly less because of tumbling and fragmentation due to much higher speeds than subsonic 300blk. I prefer 110gr Hornady VMAX that is commonly in stock at many stores.

  • @patb7723

    @patb7723

    2 ай бұрын

    Great round I load the VMAX for my 300 blackout also and it also works very well on deer also

  • @Golden_Patriot
    @Golden_PatriotАй бұрын

    300 blackout for sure bc it has better ballistics than the 9mm

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    That, it does!

  • @turbobarbarazo
    @turbobarbarazo2 ай бұрын

    Can we have the part list or link? I would like to start building 1 for myself.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    For which one? The .300 Blackout was built on Aero Precision M4E1 receivers with an Aero Atlas R-One handguard, Rosco 8.2" barrel, Geissele buffer tube, but I had to switch out the buffer and spring to a SpringCo yellow spring and 3 oz. carbine buffer. It has an Aero Precision Nickel Boron bolt-carrier group in it and a Giessele SSP trigger and Radian safety and charging handle, Holosun 512C red dot on a Unity riser and Modlite PLHV2 18350 on an Arisaka offset mount with a Surefire tailcap and Modbutton, B5 Systems stock and grip and Witt Machine & Tool Dirty 30 suppressor. The 9mm was built on Aero Precision EPC-9 receivers and buffer system with the Atlas R-One handguard, Ballistic Advantage 8.3" barrel, EPC-9 bolt, B5 systems furniture, Radian safety and charging handle, BCM vertical foregrip, Sig Sauer Romeo 5 red dot on a Geissele mount, Streamlight ProTac HL-X light on an Arisaka mount with the Arisaka tailcap adapter and a Surefire UE tailcap with a Modbutton and it has a Witt Machine Mod-1 suppressor.

  • @turbobarbarazo

    @turbobarbarazo

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry, I forgot to ask correctly. Was for the 9mm. Thank you for your time and help

  • @latymz
    @latymzАй бұрын

    Where did you get the barrel attachment for the dirty 30?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    The Dirty 30 is direct-thread, so you don't need any kind of QD muzzle device or anything. It just threads right onto the barrel.

  • @J_Jxy
    @J_Jxy2 ай бұрын

    Using NFA items in a home defense situation is probably better because once the case is over it’s more likely you can get it back. DA might not like it though.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    That might be true.

  • @rickymiller177
    @rickymiller1772 ай бұрын

    Your right, truth is there should have never been a nfa to begin with

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    That is absolutely true!

  • @AJohnSmith
    @AJohnSmith2 ай бұрын

    Suppressed 762.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    I like it!

  • @basrutten641
    @basrutten641Ай бұрын

    Generally speaking most 9mm ARs don’t feed HP as well as .300BO with proper mag followers. I’ll take the kinetic energy a subsonic .300BO round has over most 9mm and decide if supers are more appropriate. 9mm isn’t even a consideration since I built my BO I really don’t need to listen to all the responses of those who have an AR9 that feeds well as it’s not going to chance my opinion in the slightest. A tumbling 220gr boolet will do FAR more damage than a 147gr 9mm pill

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    I agree with you on that. I've honestly had problems feeding hollow points in mine before I polished the feed ramp.

  • @basrutten641

    @basrutten641

    Ай бұрын

    @@sawtoothtactical404 I would like to invest in a 9mm PDW but I want all the same features I would have with rifle cartridges- radial delay- roller- whatever… just not a blowback. I also would like something that has a charger on the LH side or ambi- a LRBHO, something that doesn’t require mag adapters. Every time I work it out I end up in MP5/SP5 territory- but I wouldn’t have e a LRBHO 😔 I have thousands of rounds of 9mm but only run it in pistols. The last time I almost jumped on something I ended buying my AUG because it’s just as short and packs waaaay more 🥊 Now they offer it (AUG) in .300BO AND they have 9mm conversions out there- but they experience the same feeding issues as the AR platform. I ended up just building a 9” .300BO for home defense and I am hoping my Polonium 30 can will get approved inside the next month or so. They both have limitations but I err on the side of reliability. If I have to leave the house for whatever unforeseen reason I am grabbing a 5.56 or .308” Also watching attackers eating 10 rounds of 9mm and continuing to do what they were doing is a bit frustrating. If I were to do this again I would probably go with a 5.5-7.5” with a 1:5 twist Something designed to tumble 220gr on soft targets is the best option for BO IMO Otherwise 85gr supers will get what it won’t There’s really no plan B with 9mm But I have a pistol and my BO within reach- I sleep well 😉

  • @EDP_every_day_pyro
    @EDP_every_day_pyroАй бұрын

    Literally just certified my form 4 for a vanquish suppressed barrel I'm gonna be putting on my udp-9 Ar9. Def gonna be the home defense gun. Edit: i would bet if you emailed the company of your silencer snd tell them you had it taken from using it in a clean shoot, i bet most would make you another. I cant remember whos policy that is but ive heard that before for some company

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    You're probably right. I believe Shadow Systems will replace your gun if it's taken as evidence.

  • @NCTACO
    @NCTACO2 ай бұрын

    What barrel length are those

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    The 9mm is 8.3" and the .300 Blackout is 8.2".

  • @Gnolomweb
    @Gnolomweb2 ай бұрын

    18:35 reverse BCM gang

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep. I like to use them "backwards".

  • @choke666
    @choke6662 ай бұрын

    I'm in the process of approval for two SBR's. I like the idea of 300 blackout for home defense. I try to keep my ammo as simple, or as few as possible.. .22lr, 5.56, .308, 9mm, 10mm, 12g. But with suppressors as an option.. i see the appeal. How long did it take for your form 1's to go through?

  • @x3dominator28

    @x3dominator28

    2 ай бұрын

    I recently certified two SBR’s. First came in one day, second in three days. I also did two form fours and both came in less than a week. So in two weeks I got two sbr stamps and two suppressor stamps.

  • @choke666

    @choke666

    2 ай бұрын

    @x3dominator28 Haha! That's awesome, man! And congratulations on the speedy process! I purchased my supressors 10 freakin days before they started the rapid approvals!! So, about 7 months.😅 But you have me hopeful perhaps this time will be a little quicker on the form 1's. Thank you for the heads up. Much appreciated. 🫡 My eforms for the SBR's were submitted today. So we shall see!🤞🤞

  • @trumpwon20204
    @trumpwon202042 ай бұрын

    Trick question... CMMG Banshee .45acp

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    Good answer!

  • @troy9er
    @troy9er2 ай бұрын

    300 BO! If it get taken as evidence you won’t have to buy that expensive ammo for a while!! 😉

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Good point!

  • @troy9er

    @troy9er

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sawtoothtactical404 😉

  • @ecobasetech4558
    @ecobasetech45582 ай бұрын

    I say why note both? Have one staged in the bedroom and the other staged at the opposite side of the house?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    That's how I feel, too! Both is good.

  • @fairlanemuscle
    @fairlanemuscleАй бұрын

    I think 300bo guys should be a bit uncomfortable with a top-shelf 9mm out of a 8" barrel. 147 grains at 1300-1400 fps and expanding to .70 isn't anything to scoff at. And yes, 300bo will do marginally better against body armor (Assuming supersonic rounds)......but how often is the druggy breaking into your house going to be wearing level 3 or better body armor?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    I think they can both be pretty good choices, honestly. As long as you can put a bunch of rounds on target...

  • @byronjensen755
    @byronjensen755Ай бұрын

    I’m running a suppressed MP5.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    Ай бұрын

    Perfect!

  • @indicastrain4127
    @indicastrain41272 ай бұрын

    300 suppressed..with supers!

  • @Gnolomweb
    @Gnolomweb2 ай бұрын

    15:40 ...Shooting through walls IS cqb, kek.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    It could be...

  • @Gnolomweb
    @Gnolomweb2 ай бұрын

    16:08 "no threats at the range"? Have you seen "people" shoot? lol. Seen NDs almost kill people more than once at different ranges.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Good point!

  • @screes620
    @screes6202 ай бұрын

    9MM can do the same job, within the same distances used in home defense, but the ammo is a lot cheaper, which means you can do more training with it. The best choice will always be the firearm you have the highest levels of proficiency using. 300BLK is more of a hunting round for things like hogs and deer. So if you want to be able to both hunt with it, and use it for home defense, then sure 300BLK makes more sense there, but if you're not hunting with it, then 9mm is cheaper to shoot.

  • @YERAFirearms
    @YERAFirearms2 ай бұрын

    I have one of each. In am not certain what I like more. I think the lighter version would be my AR9, and it is shorter too. 9mm is sufficient for home defense. The extra capacity of 32 rd Glock mags are very a bonus too. A giggle switch only enhances the usability factor. I am looking for a dedicated 9mm can. DA Specter is on my short list. What Can do you recommend?

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    I've heard great things about the YHM R9, especially for the price. I've gotta admit, though, that I'm pretty happy with this Witt Machine Mod-1 and it's really affordable.

  • @leegreene3059
    @leegreene30592 ай бұрын

    Wont have time to put on ear pro? I sleep with 1 ear plug in..... The wife snores like shes got a cummins 3500 for a father. God saw fit to giving me 2 ears so i can spare one

  • @leegreene3059

    @leegreene3059

    2 ай бұрын

    Before anybody has an stroke, it's a joke..... Mostly

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    I never took something like that into account. I'm sure there are actually lots of people who sleep with ear plugs in, actually...

  • @leegreene3059

    @leegreene3059

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sawtoothtactical404 yeah man I actually do sleep with 1 in cuz she snores (love her little heart) right ear and I'm a righty. I figured it's a plus but not really a strategic set up. We all worry about sound but, are the baddies? Or will they come in and end up shooting their micro draco at us? Obviously I can't control what they do only my set up just thought provoking.

  • @robgreen7060
    @robgreen70602 ай бұрын

    You totally missed the bar on this one with NFA ITEMS. Individual vs. trust is the point you need to make dude. Legal issues arise quickly if a family member (aka your wife) uses an NFA item without being on a trust with that item. Same thing goes for SBRs.

  • @flipperzero9662
    @flipperzero966229 күн бұрын

    People worried about getting their gun confiscated are stupid. That gun will cost way less than the future legal fees they'll be paying

  • @l.s.451
    @l.s.4512 ай бұрын

    Demonizing, one trick pony.Cmon You Tube Corporate Censorship is Unacceptable, do better.🇺🇲

  • @chop6604
    @chop66042 ай бұрын

    I feel like it’s the Same guns … Same content … over and over with your channel

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    Well, I can't afford a new gun every week, but I try to get new stuff for the channel as often as I can and certain topics seem to get more views and new subscribers more than others. Growing the channel is what will get it to the point where I can start getting more new interesting stuff all the time. It's a process...

  • @kurtiswhodat8478
    @kurtiswhodat84782 ай бұрын

    300 is the best choice but ammo is a factor. Training or even just practicing at a local range is a costly task. 9mm isn’t n the other hand. $299 for 1k rounds. Yes, the heavier stuff in 9mm can be pricey but you can definitely train/practice on the cheap and load up a few or 8 mags of 147.

  • @sawtoothtactical404

    @sawtoothtactical404

    2 ай бұрын

    That's right. I kind of love having two VERY similar guns because I can practice on the cheap with 9mm, but have the .300 Blackout for more serious use.

  • @kevinelliott9679

    @kevinelliott9679

    Ай бұрын

    I believe a bunch of you need to reevaluate your information sources and thinking if you believe that 9mm, especially 147 gr, will penetrate less than good expanding defense or hunting rounds from supersonic rifle rounds.