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A lesson in what's gone wrong with broadcasting. A real documentary, with experts in their fields talking TO the viewer as an equal and not talking DOWN to him. The knowledge expressed here is breathtaking. An absolute gem of an upload.

@daszieher

4 жыл бұрын

@MichaelKingsfordGray which is why the viewers of old have retreated from the TV scene and watch videos on youtube. I couldn't imagine a reason to turn on the TV set for other reasons than streaming a video onto it

@jondough4227

4 жыл бұрын

Hear, Here ! @@daszieher. I haven't had TVeeee feed in over 22 years now,..and counting LoL!

@ViN-kr3ri

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. I still have my VHS recording of this when it was first broadcast in 84, when the BBC made quality documentaries instead of pandering to every woke lefty agenda

@sergioleone3583

2 жыл бұрын

@@ViN-kr3ri Well said. I have this on a commercially distributed VHS as well. Wish I had it on a DVD, but am glad that it's up here on gulagtube for now.

@JacobafJelling

Жыл бұрын

Exactly mate. Well said

That exhaust temperature measuring procedure at 35:13 is pure gold.

@deerlord2363

5 жыл бұрын

LMFAO!! Indeed... XD

@trentdawg2832

5 жыл бұрын

Lol. I use that procedure on my lsx swapped nova....lol

@trentdawg2832

5 жыл бұрын

What about the SS guard in the pits at 35:54

@Toxic-Masculinity

5 жыл бұрын

@@trentdawg2832 Yo the racer that just finished 5th in that his name is dick seaman fuckin lol

@BaronVonYolo

5 жыл бұрын

Its the same method Madam Curie measured radiation ;-)

I watched this the first time round and recorded it on a VHS tape that, I'm afraid, was lost in a house move. Wonderful to see it again - an outstanding achievement by Horizon from the days when the BBC made beautiful documentaries, without silly re-enactments and snide comments about the moralities of past eras.

@jpete190

Жыл бұрын

I love old BBC documentaries.

at 09:58 the address of Delage is shown on the engine plate. That address of 140 Ave des Champs Elysees, Paris. It is now a McDonalds Restaurant. Oh the humanity. BTW I had a burger there last year.

@clausrnfeldtwillemoes7381

5 жыл бұрын

:-O

@ronalddijk7602

4 жыл бұрын

wonderfull info. thanx

@jayallen408

4 жыл бұрын

That's hilarious if they only knew they would eventually be replaced with a McDonald's😂

@arnonijssen1796

4 жыл бұрын

You know how they call a Royale with Cheese over there ?

@kevintucker3354

4 жыл бұрын

Arno Nijssen Best comment!

"In those days they drank the champagne" Love it!

@greyriddance64

5 жыл бұрын

this only sentence pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it?

@Interdiction

4 жыл бұрын

@Waxel Punkt. As we should live life

@scottpaul7427

4 жыл бұрын

after winning LeMans in 1967, Dan Gurney sprayed champagne on some of the journalists and critics that said he and AJ Foyt had no chance to win, and a new tradition was born

@sitarnut

2 жыл бұрын

One of the 1930's great jazz guitarists during the time Be-Bop was coming in opined, "Boppers flat their fifths, we drink ours."

@Rintin07

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly no mention of the gigantic sausage Campari was presented with on winning the Grand Prix at Lyon

Back in the 90s Speedvision aired these type of documentaries and the original races all the time. I really miss Speedvision.

@karlluppold240

3 жыл бұрын

Me Too, even Motor Trend TV doesn't come close to this quality.

@Flu_Tang_Clan

2 жыл бұрын

Legends of Motorsport!

Is anyone else amazed at the cornering speed of these cars? With how thin the tires are thats amazing

@sheilasembly-crum8447

Жыл бұрын

I am absolutely amazed!!!

You've got to admire those guys back then driving at over a hundred mph with no helmet, not roll cage in an open cockpit race car, that took real guts.

@Innerspace100

9 жыл бұрын

mrblowhard2u Indeed. Add to that brakes that, by present day standards, didn't work, narrow "bisyckle" tyres that didn't grip, non-fireproof clothing and non-existent track safety... Oh, and some of those Mercs and Auto Unions could max out at allmost 200 mph... Properly crazy stuff!

@adam1othman

8 жыл бұрын

Innerspace100 in the mid 30's enzo ferrari wanted to be able to compete with the cars, but didn't have the cash to start from scratch and alfa romeo refused to give him the cash, so he takes two of kano's straight 8's and puts them into one car. this was an attempt to lure nuvolari back to scoured ferrari in the 30's, nuvolari was clocked going well over 200 mphs in the mid 30's

@TheLegitaMate1

8 жыл бұрын

+mrblowhard2u Best of all, *it made you feel alive.* The bravery the drivers had to be Grand Prix racers in those days were uncanny. And when they drove with so little protection like that, they felt so alive.

@44032

6 жыл бұрын

...until they crashed.

@Shaun.Stephens

6 жыл бұрын

Real guts that were often splashed over the spectators.

One thing I do find extremely impressive with the 750kg formula of 1934-1937 is that the development was so rapid that the 1937 Mercedes W125 developed 646hp (reportedly) on the dyno. Just a few years before in 1931-1932 the most powerful racecars had little over 200hp. Tripling the horsepower output in just a few years of Grand Prix racing must have been insane! Porsche was planning something special for the 1974 Can-Am season but turbos were banned and Porsche pulled out. (1973 oil crisis..)

@NDschinn92

2 жыл бұрын

What exactly did Porsche plan for the Can-Am in 74?

18:25 love the big Bentley passing the voiturette like car ...the size difference is hard for the brain to believe!

@richardtsan3792

4 жыл бұрын

Ettore Bugatti said that Bentley is the fastest truck on the track.

@saxon-mt5by

4 жыл бұрын

That's one of the Works Austin Sevens, known as Dutch Clogs.

What a fantastic era for motorsport and engine development. A really good historical archive, and images to match.

The car lit on fire and the dude got back in to keep racing, what an absolute legend.

The sound of that Alfa Romeo starting up at 22:30 is just glorious.

@jcgabriel1569

2 жыл бұрын

Just by listening to the sound, you know that _it can really pull..._

What a super documentary about these incredibly exciting and dangerous days. God bless Dick Seaman; a true English gentleman. Thank you for posting!

Such an incredible documentary !!! Well done and well narrated. The collection of photos , videos and audio from all those people involved such a long time ago is absolutely wonderful!!

A programme from the golden age of documentaries!

I first became aware of these cars over 60 years ago reading graphic comic books. Who would have thought there was a market for that? I remember reading about the Auto Unions and Mercedes like it was yesterday. Then I read a book called "4 Wheel Drift" . Thank you for this presentation which is the best I have seen, and brought those old memories to life once again. Thank you.

0:52 glad to see this guy holds the hand crank properly!

@MrGaryGG48

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I was watching that too. There were a lot of broken thumbs back then!

That alfa exhaust at around 23...Majestic

the sound of the engines these times, is absolutely incredible

@kevintucker3354

4 жыл бұрын

john jay Love the sound of a straight 6 engine! Especially now that they can be tuned to as much as 2,300 horsepower! (Hrsprs) love you James!

Can you imagine being able to view such a spectacle today ?

Amazing to see that power and speed was not far off that of today's F1. At least on the straights. The tracks however, were a total desaster, in every aspect.

Thank you for allowing us a glimpse of these astonishing mechanical creations of yesterday.A most entertaining film!

That close-up of the driver's hat; the shot of the hand crank--gosh, how poetic.

What a beautiful documentary, congratulations and thanks for posting it here in youtube.

I actually drove a 1928 Bugatti Type 35 race car in a road rally about a decade ago and it's tiny, harsh, nimble, loud, and like riding in a frog blender at speed that will kill you and take off your knee caps if you f- up. About as fast as an 70's Porsche road car on tires the width of a pizza pie -135+ mph.

@LarryisControversial3000

5 жыл бұрын

Just for research purposes, can you quantify the speed of an average frog blender for the average viewer. I never learned to control my frog blender, so I wasn't able to clock the speed properly. Kept taking my kneecaps off.

@DerekJason3000

5 жыл бұрын

@@LarryisControversial3000 Literally a frog blender RPM? 37,000 -Hamilton Beech Bar Blender and others -yummy frog legs blended not kneecapped. That's mafia and you guys aren't. Richard Ridell would run the front tires with less PSI I remember at Laguna Seca Monterrey Historic races. The one I was in was owned by a David D. From Galveston or Houston. I gotta think about it -over a decade ago. You talking about the adjustable advance, the priming pumping, the extra oil can manual pump and stuff and priming with the left hand near the fire wall? I know there is some parkay flooring in them too. There's a clock too on the pretty engine turned fire wall and from what I remember it was quite a production just to make it go much less drive it. You constantly adjust the advance. Worse than a High Maintenance woman who is French and Italian and very pretty so it's worth it. I think I was in the finger lakes. Been a while. Oh and the emergency brake right hand with a chain sprocket is an interesting way to do it. Also hiding the drums inside the wheels is rather impractical but would really work well thinking about that now -much easier to use a larger sprocket to get leverage for the brakes just like big rotors. No wonder why these were so fast in the 1920's. They are today! I'm sure i would get lost in a rental car chasing as I did, even with my 911 3.2 it would be about the same performance. Lots of trivia I haven't thought about in 10+ years. Cool experience.

@DerekJason3000

5 жыл бұрын

Tinkering on Porsches now. MG midgets.

@DerekJason3000

5 жыл бұрын

Those Blockley Tires are the bomb! Makes steering of those cars much lighter and faster if everything in the front axle is up to snuff. Positive camber built into the axle. So I would assume that Dick runs the front tires lower in PSI to give better corning so you get a combination of good steering feel without the front end pushing really bad and you understeer the corner. Is that what you are asking? Compensating for understeer in these cars with tire pressure variations on modern race tracks. As far as I remember there are only a few left right hand turns on Laguna Seca and they are off camber (up and down hill corkscrew) so you may be able to only run the right front tire with lower pressure for that track and get away with it.

@DerekJason3000

5 жыл бұрын

Or spin lol!

What a fantastic documentary, absolutely loved it! Thank you very much for posting!

Horizon... ahh... one of my favorite programs growing up a kid... loved the graphics and theme music... this is a brilliant pre-war car racing documentary.

incredible sights and sounds from the glory days of Grand Prix racing. Wonderful film.

Many thanks for the upload, one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.

Thanks for uploading great documentary

Thanks for posting these bits of Grand Prix history that I previously knew very little about.

This is terrific! Thank you for posting!

This is simply amazing!! Thanks so much for sharing this documentary!

37:33 Those Mercedes-Benz W125 and Auto Union Typ C lift-offs at Donnington old circuit's Starkey's Straight to Melbourne Hairpin just made my day. Greets from Denmark.

This is super-cool! I have always had a particular interest in pre-war, supercharged racing cars. They rock!

35:15-35:20 ish, the mechanic checks the exhaust manifold for a cool cylinder ... with his hand!!! Mad respect

@saxon-mt5by

4 жыл бұрын

I have a motoring book from around 1910 which offers advice on how to diagnose an engine that is misfiring: by putting your hand on each exhaust manifold in turn - the one that doesn't burn your hand is the faulty one!

Super upload... had this taped on VHS years ago when it first was shown on TV. Lovely to see it again. Thanks.

What a lovely Film! I very much appreciate the effort of uploading this. There´s way too little of these films from the early days! Word has it that the Soviets captured Auto Union cars and had one driver killed by a high speed crash. Very likely cause: the car still had German race gas in the tanks. The other car never ran well because the Soviet gas was bad... This reminds me of the Group B Rallye cars...

Wow. Horizon from a time when it was a relevant science programme.

@alanesplen2253

3 жыл бұрын

I still have the VCR of this brilliant programme I copied it on to DVD but the quality is not up to this so glad to be able to watch it again.

37:21 That Mercedes going into the grass and not giving a damn sure put a smile to my face

Thank you; Paul Vaughan's narrations are always comforting...

Fantastic doc!!!! Love the pics. Never seen most of this footage.

Wonderful! The bit with the roaring Bugattis was thrilling. Thank you for posting

Was all about the engine then. Fantastic stuff, I still have a VHS copy of this that I recorded when it was shown one Christmas.

@reinierrooi5650

4 жыл бұрын

Peter Lee, stop showing you know nothing ! The time Harry Miller started struggling to get his 4cyl cars running, Etore Bugatti was well know for making VERY good cars ! The one v16 that engineer, remember, ENGINEER !!!!!....Miller did, could not complete one race ! So sorry for you !.....bragging with nothing between the ears !

Wonderful feature! Thanks for helping keep this stuff alive

One of the best Grand Prix films I've seen. thanks "Tinkerin' Thinkers" for the upload!

This is far more exciting than modern day F1

Dont forget that the Miller engines where in the first way based on the Franse Peugeot engines (the first engine in te world with dubbel overhead camshaft) from 1914 ... the Peugeot L45 is the best example

This is quite wonderful to watch. Thank-you very much.

I watched this last night and enjoyed it very much. Thanks!

Thanks for uploading this - very interesting!

These old, classic documentaries are enjoyable.

Thank you for sharing this gem with us

Great prog..full of splendid info..Boffins abound..Nuvalari was a great driver.. I am now happy.. Thanx for posting..

I remember watching this when it was broadcast. I remember being incredibly sad that the Brooklands track had not been restored, at that time, as there were industrial museums by the dozen in Manchester for all the marvelous work in the industries there, mostly at the key sites, and Brooklands would have been the obvious choice for a Grand Prix industrial museum for the south.

Excellent work James

Great Scott! That’s the same narrator that did Threads! Outstanding

Gem documentary.Thanks for posting.

Thanks for sharing

My spirits rose when I heard that theme tune cos I knew that some wonderful material was about to get aired! What a treat.

@markletts2000

4 жыл бұрын

Robin Wells 👍🙂

a fantastic watch … many thanks

Fantastic historical video. 1937 to the Second World War. Very technically advanced. Here we are in 2022 and using 1.5 liter turbo engines. So cool. 👍

Excellent documentary. Thank you.

Young Mr Mason at the start there. A great documentary.

Lap record at Brooklands 143.44 MPH (17:00) - 99% of drivers today (2018) have ever exceeded that speed even on Autobahn on a flat straight road ! Remember this was Lap Speed not Maximum - Total Respect for those hughley brave Heroes of Yesteryear. Just Incredible, I have in my Mercedes 420SE done just over 152 MPH but that was on a downhill stretch of Autobahn and with a slight tail wind.

@CaymanIslandsCatWalks

Жыл бұрын

I’ve done 143mph in a Volvo c70

@GrrMeister

Жыл бұрын

@@CaymanIslandsCatWalks

@CaymanIslandsCatWalks

Жыл бұрын

@@GrrMeister amongst other things…. But really is Al crazy when u think about it

@hmdwgf

11 ай бұрын

Imagine doing that kind of speed on a track as bumpy as that with a car the driver describes as driving it like “leaning too far out an upstairs window”. Totally bonkers

Wonderful, Thank you so much

Wonderful documentary this watched it so many times 👍

Titans all of them to drive such cars at 200MPH makes the current F1 as exciting as watching Noddy in his little car!

Fantastic work keep up the good work ❤️

I just watched the whole thing ...❤ thank you

Blimey, i remember buying this magnificent series on video,when it was first released decades ago. One of the best presented and researched videos ive ever seen on the subject. Wish it was on DVD.

@pauljoe780

5 жыл бұрын

Actually it is. And you bought it. Don`t you remember?

During the turbo era in the 80s, BMW and Renault F1 engines were said to produce around 1,500hp and 1,300hp in qualifying trim respectively.

Some of the best archive footage this history lesson and storytelling in my opinion was superb

Very helpful ...great video

Great old footage and racing history. !!!!

Wonderful pictures 👍

This is Priceless 🦾🔥

Just an absolutely excellent video.

Thank you, an informative documentary.

31:59 Yeah, uh, I'm pretty sure he went by Richard. If you thought he had it 'hard' you didn't hear about his brothers Harry and Willy.

@nickkaarslev290

4 жыл бұрын

What an unfortunate name xD

Nice tro see this on youtube. I remember watching it back in the 1980s.

Great documentary. Just wish they'd shown more of the beautiful Alfa Romeos.

Great documentary. I love especially to see the footage of these great race tracks of the past, as you can see on my name, like Pescara, Montlhéry, Bremgarten and the Original layout of Reims-Gueux :)

@TheLegitaMate1

8 жыл бұрын

+Circuits of the past I agree. It's nice to see those circuits. Oh, and thank you for providing the footage of those circuits for my Grand Prix 80th Anniversary Episodes, I can tell you've watched them because I was notified that you added me to my circles a little while ago.

Fantastic video.

Those aluminum rims look good even today. The "tank" race car was way ahead of it's time it just had to be wider and longer for better handling.

This is the result of a well funded public broadcaster. The BBC during the 1970s through to the 90s was really the heyday of quality TV production, both drama and documentary.

Thanks for sharing this vid

@jimf5160

6 жыл бұрын

and drum brakes

The Auto Union type D, driven by Nuvolari, fantastic!

A fabulous program I saw it when it came out. Great history.

I also forgot to say thank you for posting this! Wasnt there 2 others in this series? I have this on vgs tape somewhere and must dust off the player!

great footage!!

I enjoyed watching this show. I'm pretty sure I've seen it once before on cable TV back in the 80's.

What a great video!! The sound of the Mercs and Auto Unions made all others sound like Dinky toys😀 Glad to see the proper perspective put forward too in that no matter how much money you throw at grand prix cars, if you don't have the engineering nouse, you won't make a winner, a point Mercedes-Benz made back then, again in the 50s (when they were cash strapped) and are still making to this day in the current cars. They have proved time and again when they get serious, nobody beats them. "That will do won't do, only the best will do!" Thank you for posting this gem.

This is a vid 13 years old. Why haven’t I come across it before? I’m sure gplaps has seen and liked it. This is bliss.

I love the way the camera is really close to the car so that you can't see the car. That makes a lot of sense.

Whoa! I would give anything to have just one of the beautiful cars from that era. They are incredible machines and a wonderful tribute to the men and women of that day who thought of, created, built, and drove them. The cars are now "works of art". Unfortunately only millionaires can afford to own any of them anymore.

@user-hk3vu4mh4q

4 жыл бұрын

hi

Thanks. I remember watching the "Horizon" as a youngster. No intrusive music.

The Mercedes and Auto Unions of the late 30's made all other competition appear primitive.

@TheLegitaMate1

8 жыл бұрын

+Lorenzo Haskins Mercedes-BENZ. ALWAYS Include Benz.

@TheLegitaMate1

8 жыл бұрын

FichDichInDemArsch Same person? AGAIN?

@steveone

5 жыл бұрын

Germany was the primo technology country in those years .

@skyscall

5 жыл бұрын

@@steveone Hell, even in these years. Mercedes is back to absolute dominance these days and for the past few years as well

@geezerwings

4 жыл бұрын

@@steveone True but they had the entire might of Hitler and the wealth of Germany behind them. It is kind of like the USA winning the race to the moon with every US taxpayer behind them. Not a fair race. One man named Harry Miller and his small company in Los Angeles perfected the supercharger more than ten years before MB. His Miller 91 1500 cc engine had twin superchargers with inter-cooler that produced 400 HP in 1927. His car was 150 mph on the boards in Beverly Hills in the mid 1920's where he tested and perfected it. His 'Beach Car' with two miller 91 engines, a 3 liter car driven by Frank Lockhart crashed at 220 mph on a dry lake in 1927 on its first full power run. It had far surpassed the land speed record at the time when it blew a tire killing Lockhart. Never got the record because it could not make a back up run. Who knows what it was capable of. Bugatti copied the Miller 91 for his Type 51. MB even tried putting one of the 1938 Silver Aero cars in an enclosed wheel sculpted body similar to the one Leo Gossen designed for the 'Beach Car' . There was plenty of technology to go around especially in France but it was really about the money.