Audi's Supercharged V16 Were Deadly Fast
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00:00 Intro
00:43 Project’s background
01:43 Basic specs
02:46 Reason for the V16
03:34 Engine features
05:40 Type B specs
06:37 Final iteration
07:55 Land speed record attempt
08:27 Health hazard
09:25 Final words
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“Supercharged Grand Prix Cars 1924-1939 (full version)” by Tinkerin' Thinkers
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“Racing the Silver Arrows of Zwickau” by King Rose Archives
• Racing the Silver Arro...
“Auto Union Type C at Shelsley Walsh 2016” by Lefty04
• Auto Union Type C at S...
“Auto Union Grand Prix racing car Type C, 1936 V16 Start up and Revs” by Lemans15
• Auto Union Grand Prix ...
“1936 Auto Union Type C at 2022 Goodwood Festival of Speed” by Goodwood2010
• 1936 Auto Union Type C...
“1936 Auto Union Type C V16 Sound In Action at Goodwood FOS” by Automotive Mike
• 1936 Auto Union Type C...
“1936 Auto Union Type C V16 Sounds & SLIDING on the ICE” by Automotive Mike
• 1936 Auto Union Type C...
“1936 Auto Union Type C V16 Sound In Action at Festival of Speed 2018!” by 19Bozzy92
• 1936 Auto Union Type C...
“Hans Joachim Stuck Auto Union V16 Shelsley Walsh 2016” by DZEUS83
• Hans Joachim Stuck Aut...
“Definitive Auto Union V16 C Type engine warm up - Goodwood Revival 2012 - Silver Arrows” by autounionv16
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“1936 Auto Union TYPE C - Brutal V16 SOUND - Snow Drifting @ The ICE St Moritz 2023” by HU3RAUM
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@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
10 ай бұрын
How marvellous you are doing this video! Even though I'm very familiar with the cars and the history (having worked for Audi for 19 years) I still liked the neat, concise, easy to follow way you told the story. Obviously this is primarily a channel about engines (and by the way, everyone always gets carried away about power but you made the very important point about the beefy torque!) - and although we got to hear it a few times, it's a TIIINY bit of a pity not to fit in a few secondsof its crackles on the overrun - a few moments were captured of the car at Goodwood which is ironic as there are sequences avaliable of it disappearing with just the exhaust popping like crazy. We are so used to it nowadays - it's just programmed into the ECU - but there was an opportunity to include that in the film and hear the real McCoy - rather than the electronically conjured version. And with 16 cylinders and those incredible straight-through exhausts, it really is quite something!🥰❤
I believe that's Horch, not Horst. The word means "hark" or "listen" in German, which is also what "audi" means in Latin.
@xGxPhantomZzz
Жыл бұрын
Jup
@hansw5067
Жыл бұрын
That is wat I think too.
@gufo_tave
Жыл бұрын
Because it is. Look at 1:21, bottom-left badge
@altergreenhorn
Жыл бұрын
Also the name Horch was sold or something like that that's why they used latin version of it namely Audi
@xGxPhantomZzz
Жыл бұрын
@@altergreenhorn Horch is still in the VAG, they will produce higher equipped S8s soon. Audi is trying to match Maybach wth Horch, but we will all know that that will go nowhere.
A rare combination of OHC and pushrod valve operation.
@michaelpielorz9283
Жыл бұрын
Alfa doesn`t count because being not Nazi !!
Thanks for putting together another great video on unique vehicles. It’s hard not to love the sound of those V16 engines ❤
@oneginee
Жыл бұрын
??? They sound like shit, that is the biggest issue with them afaiac. pushrod low reving supercharged will always sound like shit.
What a neat piece of engineering. I'm really impressed by the intake underneath the camshaft and the combination of SOHC and pushrods. The maximization of space is very satisfying.
I really admire the spirit of whoever allowed them to run a V16 AutoUnion in the snow. It's the best possible way to demonstrate the sound of the V16 at low speed while getting the car sideways with the dual rear wheels. This is something I NEVER expected to see in my life.
@szymon6207
Жыл бұрын
Pre-war from 1886-1949. Could you Mod f1c ?
@jspoons6619
Жыл бұрын
As far as I understand the V16 cars that are run today are replicas built in the UK for Audi from the original plans only a few original cars are still to be found . like he said Auto Unions factories were in the Eastern part of German so were in the soviet zone at the end of WW2. with that most of those cars vanished into the soviet union and have never been seen again. the y could just be well hidden in a private Russians collection or some forgotten storage warehouse. Mercedes had far more luck hiding their cars even managing to sneak some cars back out of their hiding places in East Germany . to this end Mercedes have far more original Silver Arrows than Audi has. I think some of those Auto Bahn speed records still stand till this day even with the current Hyper cars running around today 432,7 Km/h (268.6 Mph) still the highest recorded speed on a public road to this day and done from a standing start. this was the same weekend that Auto Union lost their star drive while attempting to beat this new record even after Mercedes had said the conditions were to unsafe because of high side winds. some other stupid record set by later Silver Arrows record cars in later years 1937/8. with less powerful cars but with better streamlining. I quote from official Mercedes sources "Caracciola set the following international class records for Class D (displacement of between 2 and 3 litres) in the Mercedes-Benz W 154 record car: over a Kilometre from a standing start he reached 175.1 km/h, over a mile from a standing start 204.6 km/h; he then managed 398.2 km/h over a Kilometre with a flying start and 399.6 km/h for the flying-start mile." but we will never know if the ultimate child of Auto Union and Mercedes could have taken the absolute world speed record that was planed one a completely built sections of Autobahn for 1939 with Porsche heading the design of the next Mercedes record project the Spaceage look T80 with 4 drive wheels six wheels in total. Featuring a DB Aircraft engine outputing over 3500 Hp to beath the then Landspeed record they needed a car the could go beyond 600 Km/h that would have been mind blowing in 1939. but has we know other events in Germany put an end to such dreams instead WW2 started.
@amundbjerve
Жыл бұрын
@@jspoons6619 As far as I know, the official record set by Caracciola in a Mercedes in 1938 stood until 2017 when Niklas Lilja beat it in a Koeniggsegg. Having your record stand from 1938 to 2017 isn't bad at all...
I get goosebumps when I hear a really good sounding engine like that
@Flies2FLL
Жыл бұрын
V16's sound like nothing else. They put V12's to shame!
@jkaufman357
Жыл бұрын
Those things did have a lovely howl!
@carwashadamcooper1538
Жыл бұрын
The Aryans always know how to make one shiver. it's up to you if that's a good shiver or not.
@blackrifle6736
Жыл бұрын
@@carwashadamcooper1538 *it is always a righteous and affirming shiver. Cheers!*
This was a very satisfying episode, ever since buying the car in Gran Turismo for a pittance and using it to slaughter my way up to the highest ranks, I've had a fascination with this masterpiece of engineering that was made before WWII. There wasn't a whole lot of good information around the internet about this vehicle, it's refreshing to have such a deep dive into the history
@jkent9915
Жыл бұрын
FASCI🫡NATION
@donaldvincent
Жыл бұрын
CMC makes a wonderful model of this car. I have one. I think they go for $300 or so nowadays. You can even remove the spark plugs and they also sell the engine to display separately. Included in the box is a booklet full of details about this car.
@Emppu_T.
Жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting cars ever since 4.
@IgorLapa
Жыл бұрын
As you are interested in that car - check out the history of the Darracq HP 200. That might be interesting for you, even it is pre WW1
@IgorLapa
Жыл бұрын
@@jkent9915 i never thought so far about that word
To average 269 mph in 2 passes over a 1-mile distance on the autobahn in 1937 using a 386 ci block is difficult to do 86 years later.
@hugejohnson5011
Жыл бұрын
It sure is, hey?! I don't know about the streamliner for the record attempts, but those formula cars had a weight limit of 750 kgs. without tires! Insanely lightweight, with the 600+ ft. -lbs. that those later engines were making. Imagine that torque in a car that weighs half of what a modern little tin box weighs?!
@Terraceview
Жыл бұрын
@@hugejohnson5011 You could barely ever use full power, only above crazy speeds.
@hugejohnson5011
Жыл бұрын
@@Terraceview Oh, for sure! And we won't mention trying to throw out the anchor, with what I can only reckon were big finned drum brakes! All while carefully dancing on those skinny little tires.
@ATruckCampbell
Жыл бұрын
@@hugejohnson5011 I bet these cars could be competitive today if given proper width race wheels and tires. Those pizza cutters are suicide.
@hugejohnson5011
Жыл бұрын
@@ATruckCampbell Yeah, I'm sure that plenty of people can't even conceive that there was high horsepower available so long ago. Coupled with the light weight, those things were rockets, and, as you've brought up, with modern tires and wheels, would be a huge improvement! As in, very significantly improving the performance. Even fast forward to the '70s and '80s. The power of the Formula 1 cars was way more than they allow them to have now, and the cars got so fast and knife edged with the ground effects era that the tires didn't keep up, and the rules were changed to get rid of ground effects chassis/cars so as to slow them down. Too many bad accidents resulted from a momentary loss of downforce, with the cars sent flying, and people being wrecked or killed. Going back to the cars shown in this video, with your sticky tires on them, I bet they really would be quite a race car! They weighed nothing ,and are even comparable to the cars of today, weight wise. And to think of how far F1 cars have come, I don't even think they had seat belts until the late '60s or thereabouts! Crazy!
It was Audi, Wanderer, DKW, and Horch… not Horst. Great episode, Visio! Keep up the great work.
@VisioRacer
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my mistake for wrong reading
@177GearBreak
Жыл бұрын
@@VisioRacer but it was ten times funnier with Horst XD
@tettazwo9865
Жыл бұрын
How many languages do you speak without any accent?
@Ramsi-Berlin
Жыл бұрын
Ich musste so lachen... Horst ❣️👌🏼😂🤣
@Ramsi-Berlin
Жыл бұрын
@@VisioRacerIt was so funny 🤣 "Horst" is a very special name in Germany 😅 When somebody is a little bit stupid...we say "what a Horst" ❕ Btw. I love your passioned videos, with all the details ❣️👌🏼 Love from Berlin 🇩🇪 Ramsi 😘🙋🏻♂️
I love the history and details. Another great video Viso.
Imagine racing one of these narrow-tired monsters in the rain. Brave men.
@hybridAbsol
Жыл бұрын
Call my insurance agent, and my family, tell em i love them 😬
@clueless4085
Жыл бұрын
Crazy men. All the respect. It's brown stain inducing even in a sim.
@Loulovesspeed
10 ай бұрын
@CaptHollister - Rudi Caracciola was the finest driver of his time in the rain. This skill earned him the nickname Regen-Meister (Master of the Rain). If it was raining at the start of a GP, other drivers reportedly took bets, not on who would win the race, but by how far Rudi would win! He was that good.
@princesssolace4337
3 ай бұрын
it's not brave men, they didn't know/have anything better. It's normal for drivers of dat era.
@Loulovesspeed
23 күн бұрын
@@princesssolace4337 - Well, they were still brave to willingly accept the life and death challenge of racing at the time!
5:27 I never thought I would see one of these drifting in the snow on a horse racing track
Love every video you make for years!
I always loved the Auto Union pre-war V16s. Beastly engines! Thank you for a very entertaining video. Keep up the good work!
Another well done and well explained look at auto racing history. Thanks.
These Auto Unions have my all-time favorite engine sound. Such a raspy growl...
...Horst... 😁 🤣 Please don't take it personal dear VisioRacer, I love your videos and when it comes to engine details I'm definetely overstrained, but this is too funny.
Amazing video as usual, I loved all the history and specs. I love these. I chose to drive an Auto Union Type D in Forza Motorsports 7.
Thanks for the great video. 👍
That sound is only second to the BRM V16 ! ❤
More than just 2 superchargers -- 2 stage supercharging (different size/RPM impellers) was very high-tech at the time and was turned out to be a pretty big deal in fighter aircraft at little bit later.
@blackrifle6736
Жыл бұрын
*Gov't-funded covert R&D proved very effective in technology transfer to other programs. That's how the game is played. Cheers!*
@Loulovesspeed
5 ай бұрын
Adye46 - Actually, the Type C Auto Union had a single supercharger with twin vertical rotors, fed through two Solex carburetors. The Alfa Romeo Type B, P3 GP car had dual Roots-Type superchargers.
Epic. Absolutely epic. Thank you.
The vintage images are incredible. great topic
Tyvm for a fascinating vid , well done & much appreciated 👏
The vintage footage was worth the click. Very well presented, and thank you. The torque numbers are astounding! (at 2700 rpm?)
@VisioRacer
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Great video thanks again Visioracer👌
Some of the most iconic racing cars ever, along with Mercedes. They are beautiful to look at.
You uploaded this video exactly when I remembered that I could take care of my 1/43 scale set of Auto Union v16
@mattiapresti7295
Жыл бұрын
8:09, yes... I have the car and Bern Rosemeyer figure too, but I must do a pair of works
These old 30s era race cars were just plain awesome. I remember my grandfather having a couple of little toy "hotwheels" (not sure the brand) sets that came in cases in the shape of these spoked wheels. I used to love playing those. Man I wish I could find a set today
Great video! Keep it up! I have known much of the history of these automobiles for quite some time, and I am never surprised by how involved the Porsche family was/is in the sports car history of Germany, and more than that, was able to use their engineering expertise and apply it to military tanks, and many other types of equipment. Perhaps you could do a video which highlights some of the diverse machinery that Ferdinand Porsche designed. I think it would be of interest to some of us gear heads!
Another's excellent topic and video👌
0:35 5:25 6:23 10:34 For your listening pleasure.
@Zach-ju5vi
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That engine sounds so good.
Horch was merched into the Autounion, not Horst.
I've driven two cars that could squawk the tires between third and fourth gear going 180 kph. One was a 1,500 dollar chevette with a 7 something liter coming through the firewall and the other was an expensive new Saleen Cobra. You can do this for pennies if you drop a dump truck engine in a coupe too.
@dodoz44
Жыл бұрын
Most importantly, make sure you're using shit tires.
@MrPPunch69
Жыл бұрын
Oh really, you bragging american loudmouth. With which (US) car you could do this in 1934?
@Loulovesspeed
5 ай бұрын
My late Father's 1968 Galaxie 500 XL with a 390 2 bbl. and C-6 automatic would easily chirp the tires between first and second gear!
In the Year 2000 I was surprised to find one of these lovingly put back together after it had been taken Russia from Germany after WWII and they took it apart to see how it ticked... The parts were about to be scrapped and a group of Latvian automobile enthusiasts scraped enough money to get the parts and put it back together... I heard that The Porsche Group had offered a lot of money and other things to get it back....I took a lot of photos of it,,, I will be returning this summer and will try to see the private collection again !!!!
That V16 produces a form of music.
OMG! THAT SOUND!
I knew about these cars before but over 400 km/h in the 1930s. Thats crazy.
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
Жыл бұрын
You know what is really crazy? During that record session on stretch of newly built Autobahn one of the drivers (I forgot which one and also if it was a Mercedes or Auto Union) said that the steering got 'light' above 300km/h. When they developed a photograph taken of his run it became clear why: The front wheels lifted clear off the ground and functioned more as rudders than wheels. They still pushed on to well over 400km/h setting a speed record for public roads that stood for over 70 years.
@sikais17
3 ай бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0if i remember correctly Bendz made 432km/h after Auto Union 427km/h . Auto Union tried brake record again and many say they probably brake the Merc but Auto Union got sidewind on straight and Rosenmayer lost control. That was end of this cars.
That thing sounds brutal.
The company was not called Horst but Horch.
Lucky enough to witness one of these 1992 European Grand Prix, at Donnington Park. They ran a demonstration before the GP, unfortunately the driver lost it as he approached us thru Craner Curves and ended up in the gravel trap! 😐
@jcgabriel1569
11 ай бұрын
Hm, that may have been Neil Corner. I think the man owned a D Type _and_ a W154 Mercedes at the time...
Thankyou VR
Saw the Autounion V16 at the Deutsches Museum Verkehrszentrum a few weeks ago. Amazing.
@blackrifle6736
Жыл бұрын
*Lucky you! Have yet to visit Bavariapark since it opened and must do so. Cheers!*
One half of the so called "SILVER ARROWS", I believe. The other half was & MERCEDES-BENZ (I believe) WII6 but please forgive me if that is incorrect .
I love low-revving, high torque engines. It's not just American big blocks that are built for low-end torque. I've seen plenty of examples from Europe, such as BMW I6, Porsche H6, and this V16 with the output of a 500ci Cadillac V8, I love it!! ♥♥♥
@michaelpielorz9283
Жыл бұрын
A 500 ci Cadillac is rated at 540 or 720 HP ? Sorry I did not know it !! Sureley Captain Americas Caddy !!
@xxxYYZxxx
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpielorz9283 1970 500ci model was rated at 400 HP., with over 500 lb/ft or torque, roughly the output of the 2nd incarnation of the V16.
@fafner1
Жыл бұрын
Auto Union referred to the 6 liter version of the V-16 as the elephant motor.
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
Жыл бұрын
@@xxxYYZxxx At that time the USA was still using SAE gross measurements. The actual power output as measured in Europe was a lot lower. For example in the USA the 4.2L Jaguar XK motor was rated at 265hp (SAE gross) but only 202hp (DIN) in Europe.
Can you imagine if the FIA stopped being the FIA and let those monsters come back. Instead they’re focused on very questionable calls and marching towards turbocharged lawnmower engines. 2024 season. Lewis Hamilton debuts his new Mercedes…with a twin turbo 479 cc Briggs & Stratton V twin out of a riding mower.
@szymon6207
Жыл бұрын
A need to nazis ? Let s find out !
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
Жыл бұрын
F1 is dead. The FIA killed it by making the wrong rules to keep speeds down for 25 years or more. They introduced smaller engines, no turbos, grooves in tyres, bolting planks of plywood to the underneath etc. What they should have done is limiting downforce by reducing aerodynamic grip. We could still have proper engines and there would be actual overtaking on the track. Now the aerodynamicists are set to destroy MotoGP too!
@thunderbeam9166
Жыл бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 I miss the 3.5 V8s, V10s and Senna’s V12 monster. The cars starting getting pretty stale and don’t have the same diversity in my opinion.
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
Жыл бұрын
@@thunderbeam9166 I gone off F1 a long time ago after following almost religiously. On one Sunday I watched F1 followed by MotoGP. There was not a single car being overtaken on the track (and it wasn't even Monaco) while at the MotoGP race the lead changed 12(!) times on the last lap alone! To be fair it was an exceptionally good bike race and an exceptionally bad F1 (what do expect at the Hungaroring as that race was or Monaco?) but still...
@Redmenace96
Жыл бұрын
We all ask for this. F1 doesn't want to do it because 'cost'. Why can't we have a market disruptor series? Prototype-open class autos and motos? Any engine, any chassis, any design you want to run? Don't show up, if you think it is too costly. Do we need a billionaire to take an interest? maybe. Would motorsport fans watch in the millions? Yes.
Ohhhh God i love the sound of those engines, incredible, hairs stand on air!!! Shame we cant see these for real more often, such as F1 meetings!!!
They sound awesome.
Nice vid as you always do. Small error, Horst should be Horch
6:23 That is one mighty impressive roar!
It is not an Audi - it is an Auto Union.
1:16 "Auto Union was built from Audi, Wanderer, DKW and ***HORST***" - you made my day 🤣
That's so incredibly Mad Max.
Have always wanted to see this car unbelievable engineering
hoho, good Visio, dat Driver61 surely would want themes lik these.
The Auto-Union V16 sounds amazing. Nothing sounds like a racing V16, of which there have been so few. Auto-Union, BRM... that's all I can think of at the moment. Were there any other racing V16 engines besides those two?
Interesting DeDion tube rear suspension. Now that's classic.
@fafner1
Жыл бұрын
The DeDion was on the 12 cylinder D type, the 16 cylinder C types used swing axles. The rear weight bias and the swing axle made for diabolical handling. Bernd Rosemeyer's success in driving the C-type has been attributed to his previously being a motorcycle racer who had no preconcieved notion of how a race car should handle. Tasio Nuvolari also started out as a motorcycle racer.
The chassis looks a bit flexy. Cool video mate 👍
This is the most sophisticated piston engine design I have ever seen.
@Loulovesspeed
10 ай бұрын
@kennethm.pricejr.8921 - Look up another spectacular engine design - The 1954-55 Mercedes W196 R, 2.5 liter straight 8. It was fuel injected and featured 2 pairs of 4 cylinders mated together. To reduce the torsional vibration inherent in straight 8 engines, the power was taken off the midway point between the front and back 4 cylinders. Its Desmodromic valve system was mechanically actuated without the use of RPM limiting valve springs, making it possible to rev this engine beyond 9,000 rpm, a figure thought impossible at the time. This too was a very technically sophisticated engine. As a sideline, it also produced one of the most stirring sounds of any automobile engine regardless of size!
The size of those steering wheels! I guess they needed the leverage before power steering was invented.
That sound... No electric car will ever sound like this! Great piece btw, well done!
@42lookc
Жыл бұрын
INDEED!
@carlosandleon
Жыл бұрын
speaker
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
@@carlosandleon Nope
@carlosandleon
Жыл бұрын
@divinehatred6021 yeah, you can
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
@@carlosandleon you have been brainwashed buddy
How mad/brave were these chaps taking a 630bhp supercharged V16 racecar out on skinny crossply tyres.
The V16 cars are not technically referred to as Audi. They are Auto Union cars, the company created from the merging of Audi, Horch, Wanderer and DKW. That is what the 4 circles intertwined stand for.
A dully race car😂 I love it!
Do the exhausts appear black in modern shots because ofa ceramic coating unavailable in '30s? Do they originally be of common bronze?
The early days of F1 racing the drivers were brave indeed. Those cars offered little protection in a crash. Nobody walked away from a bad crash like they do now. I guess you could say that about all forms of early moto sports.
@jcgabriel1569
11 ай бұрын
There were many instances of drivers walking away from big crashes back then...
@Loulovesspeed
5 ай бұрын
@@jcgabriel1569 - I'll go along with "some", but not many in "big" crashes! Remember, no seat harnesses then and drivers were thrown out in the vast majority of big crashes, killing the vast majority of them!
AUDI. Also stands for, Always Under Diagnostic Investigation.😂
@Loulovesspeed
5 ай бұрын
It also means "Hello" in the Western United States! LOL
About the dual rear wheels. I had seen photos of the cars in this configuration when they were being used in hill climb events but not in Grand Prix competition. Is that correct? In any case it was a ridiculous amount of work those rear tires were being asked to do. Had they developed a limited slip differential or were they running a locked rear?
@jcgabriel1569
11 ай бұрын
Limited Slip differential were already a thing by the 1930s. It is a bit crude, but it works very well. Search "Cam-and-pawl differential"...
The men what drives these Rockets, with these tires without seatbelt and safety features, must be really hero's ❣️😲 I think that is applicable for all motorsports driver's till in the 1990's 💪🏼😁
It's so sad, what happened with the German car industry today ‼️😔 For me as German, Porsche is the only one brand where I can be a little bit proud ❕ Love from Berlin 🇩🇪 Ramsi 🙋🏻♂️
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
Arent you proud in ALPINA? I think what they make is *beautiful.*
@Ramsi-Berlin
Жыл бұрын
@@divinehatred6021 Alpina just tunes BMW's ❕🤷🏻♂️ Sure, they make beautiful things... but the base is a BMW. When BMW's have problems, Alpina can't fix it 😅 I'm not a BMW fan.
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
@@Ramsi-Berlin They really dont just "tune" BMW, no, they make pieces of art out of BMW, and they ensure that the increased performance not only reliable, but also more comfortable than everything that Germany can offer.
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
@@Ramsi-Berlin yeah, the fun part is that im not a BMW fan either. Before i found out what ALPINA actually is, i was the big Porsche-only fan. ALPINA's approach on creation of cars is just *so* different. And they still repair/service their creations from 90s and 00s to this day, instead of abandoning them like BMW would.
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
When BMW had problems in engines, transmisson, and general reliability - thats exactly what ALPINA did to them: they were *removing* those problems completely, essentially always making awesome everyday cars with over-the-top performance and comfort.
I've been waiting a long time for you to do this one so a big thank you for a super production. It is such a shame that most of the cars were lost into the Soviet Union, I would have dearly loved to see one up close to examine such a super piece of engineering. Of course these cars were only made possible by gaining the support of possibly the world's most evil dictator and the enormous amount of money required to develop them came from some very dubious sources. They are tainted cars but nonetheless impressive achievements. It is probably for the best that Rosemeyer lost his life in the car when he did, he was a very brave man and drove it despite well knowing it's huge instability at speed due to faulty aerodynamics, a subject not well understood back then. Rosemeyer did not have a good immediate future ahead of him, he probably knew that and decided to dedicate and give his life to the gods of speed rather than wait for the inevitable death planned for him. A talented, brave and admirable man. He must not be forgotten.
@McLarenMercedes
Жыл бұрын
"most of the cars were lost into the Soviet Union". Few Auto Union race cars ended up in the Soviet Union. Fact is that quite a few of them were chopped up during the war to augment any shortage of lighweight materials the German forces needed, others stowed away inside buildings which later were bombed by allied aircraft and yet others either were dismantled by their racing teams or forgotten somewhere... "Rosemeyer did not have a good immediate future ahead of him, he probably knew that and decided to dedicate and give his life to the gods of speed rather than wait for the inevitable death planned for him." Well, that makes little sense because "the gods of speed" took his life and denied him any future.
@philiptownsend4026
10 ай бұрын
@@McLarenMercedesRosemeyer was Jewish. The Nazis tolerated him driving for Auto Union because no other driver could match him in that car. But when they needed him no longer he would have been off to a slave camp or murdered in the gas chamber. He chose a noble death in the car. That is what I was talking about. I made a special journey to Vienna Museum of Technology to see the only Mercedes GP car of the period on public display. I would make a similar pilgrimage to see an example of that Auto Union. Incidentally, your reply to me came across as a little aggressive, did you intend that?
That engine would even work in a semi truck, pure genius
@vvevvevvvv
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the truck would've been very unreliable.
The opposition did nut-c it coming. Good video
I got one of these things in Forza Horizon 4, terrifying when your near the limit, had to install larger brakea and tyres just to balance them Ohh i also used the TCS 🤫
1:23 " Horst " !! 😂😂
I read a while ago the cylinder heads were metallurgically tested sometime in the last 40-50 years and they were somewhere in the range of quality of aluminum of modern lawn chairs.
@yuglesstube
Жыл бұрын
Really?
@bocahdongo7769
Жыл бұрын
@@yuglesstube it was early days of aluminum utilization. It was only getting better 10 years after that
@stephenscholes4758
Жыл бұрын
Crap.
The music it makes though!!
There is a pretty good Hagerty article about this car, or moreso the engine
Was the deep skirts and rubber used as dampers?
can you imagine what a fully modernized version of one of these would be like? big, sticky tires, aero, and disc brakes i bet would make this car even more insane. and add fenders... you'd have a car that would be like a Viper crossed with a Ferrari, but with twice the output. lol
Imagine modern blowers on that with nitromethane as fuel! 😮😮😮
@hugejohnson5011
Жыл бұрын
Those superchargers on that car aren't really any different than any Roots type blower now. As for fuel, I think they were using some exotic cocktail made with a bunch of benzine, and that is why the raw fuel that was purged from the wastegate into the atmosphere made the other guys' lungs bleed. BMW racing motorcycles from back then, with superchargers, used exotic benzine fuel as well, and the leakage from the fuel cap on the bikes, would make the riders sick and goofy! I know that it isn't nitromethane, but I thought I'd mention it.
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
Жыл бұрын
They pretty much all used nitromethane back then. I didn't realize until I went to Goodwood and witnessed a 1925 Bugatti Type 35 go up that hill. The smell of nitromethane is unmistakable.
@hugejohnson5011
Жыл бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Um, no.
_"No, no. We'll have none of this going round and round just to win silly trophies; we're too busy building a Utopia(n nightmare) here."_ - Stalin, 1945
I love the dually wire wheels.
@Loulovesspeed
5 ай бұрын
For hill climb cars only, GP cars were single rear wheels.
@Where_is_Waldo
5 ай бұрын
@@Loulovesspeed Interesting
@Loulovesspeed
5 ай бұрын
@@Where_is_Waldo- You are limited on how wide you can make a bias-ply tire and that's all that existed then. When we learned how to make radial-ply tires, then much wider single tires could be made. 😀
As you said racing programs were co-financed from the budget of the Third Reich - but the importance of these subsidies, amounting to about 10% of total costs, is usually overestimated. 10% of the cost of racing programs, not entire companies!
@mpetersen6
Жыл бұрын
People have speculated that the German government benefited in its aviation engine sector from the racing support. Not so according to one of the Mercedes engineers.
@mrspandel5737
Жыл бұрын
@@mpetersen6 I am inclined to believe the engineers. Grand Prix racing would have diverted valuable funds away from the aero engine development for the sake of classic Nazi dickmeasuring.
@blackrifle6736
Жыл бұрын
@@mpetersen6 *Absolutely correct in the first instance. Technology Transfer as a concept existed before it had a name. Pity that MBz dude. Decades later and the answer to: "What did you do in the War" is one MBz and others must still tiptoe around. I don't blame them, was just a job. Cheers!*
Just a single hoop roll bar would have saved so many lives.
@PeteRedgrass
3 ай бұрын
Not without seat belts, it wouldn't!
Great Video ! Who doesn't like the AU Type C ? !
Not "Horst" but "Horch". "Horch" and "Audi" both kinda mean the same ("hear") and both were founded by the same man, August Horch. After he left Horch he started Audi.
That company wasn't called Horst. Although it sounds funny. It was called Horch, which is the equivalent to Audi aus a latin word.
@nopadelik9286
Жыл бұрын
well, gonna give Visioracer still some credit for perfectly pronouncing Horst 😄👌
Kinda whacky to see that F1 was all about packaging even back in the 30's.
@TarenGarond
6 ай бұрын
F1?
Yikes! That twin tube frame on the Auto Union looks to have the torsional rigidity of a garden hose.
@jcgabriel1569
11 ай бұрын
It is actually pretty good, they don't have much of a problem with them.
that shit was life-threatening even for the fans. there's video of a car crashing into a crowd with no barrier at all. we can glorify the old days, but they could also be pretty dumb and reckless back then.
The Auto Union V16 had a swing axle rear suspension - like the VW Beetle - which caused serious handling problems. Imagine a Beetle with 500+hp! The story I heard was that Rosemeyer, who used to be a motorcycle racer, was the only driver who really mastered the car as he thought that all cars handled like that! Probably not true, but still...
@adamkoller5411
Жыл бұрын
At least they had the mindset to move to DeDion rear suspension for the type D. Insane vehicle in all incarnations!
@jcgabriel1569
11 ай бұрын
The drivers who managed to do better with these cars were Rosemeyer, Nuvolari, and even Achille Varzi, who all had motorcycle racing backgrounds, and Hans Stuck, who is a hillclimb exponent. Both motorsports require drivers with a very sensitive touch to their controls...
i can’t remember properly and i don’t feel like googling but i think they had one with the 1700hp faulker wolf engine
@andyharman3022
Жыл бұрын
No. The Focke-Wulfe 190 used a BMW 801 radial engine in its first three versions, then an inverted Jumo 213 V12 in the fourth.
🇩🇪 Not Horst 😂-Horch📌 "Horch" is German and means 👂(listen) and so with Auto Union it becomes Audi which also means s.th. in common with listening, audio etc.🔉 Good Work ❤
@pseudonym5136
Жыл бұрын
As far as I know,the Name Horch came from August Horch.He later was forced out of his own Company,and wanted to take Revenge,and started a new Car Building Company.Since he was not allowed to use his Name,he translated his last Name into Latin,which is Audi.(from the Latin Word Audio)
@skylighteffect
Жыл бұрын
@@pseudonym5136 yes... I think so too 📌 But my explanation wasn't referring to the question where the name Horch had his origins or where it come from.
Yah, that was nice
The next boosted 16 cylinder German car to break 400kph? The Bugatti Veyron.
Gud vid 😍
The soviets took it to reverse engineering and then they came up with the LADA 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The suspension design was essentially that of a VW Bug - but in a car with many times the horsepower, not much more weight, and far higher speeds. Think of squirrely VW handling multiplied and deadly.