I believe when life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade...and try to find someone whose life has given them vodka, and have a party. - Ron White

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Chet. I think Ron's onto something with this one...

@cclarke9301

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect pairing!

eline emeğine sağlık bu güzel vlog için kolay gelsin hayırlı işler....👍👍👍👍👍

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Mesut'a teşekkürler. Umarım bu çeviri düzgün çalışıyordur, ancak içeriği beğendiğinizi duyduğuma sevindim.

It is astonishing the rapid growth you have gotten from those young trees.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Joni. I think one of the main reasons is the right root stock. The citrus trees you find from some nurseries come from Cali and they use a Citrange root stock. They don't do nearly as well in our experience as the sour orange root stocks like Seville. RSI Growers uses Seville and we have found these at a few of the local nurseries coming from Sunset Nursery in Yuma.

Wow!! Thanks for watching

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mary, glad you enjoyed this one!

Watching from El Paso. Thanks!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Alfonso! I (Duane) used to travel to El Paso for work every month. I used to work for Montgomery Wards and Sports Authority...now both out of business!

Thank you. Gonna go prune my lone citrus tree’s suckers tomorrow.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely need to get those suckers removed. I've seen them kill younger trees if you don't catch them soon enough!

One of my favourite things about citrus is the aroma of the blossom....so divine. Once you really start to know your trees you could probably harvest some blossoms on a good year and still have plenty of fruit...kind of pre-thinning and getting a secondary harvest.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Boy are you right on with the amazing smell from the flowers. Walking through this orchard in early Spring is truly something for the senses!

Really love your content! It's so exciting to think about these same trees maturing over the years and becoming full fledged producers! All the work you spend keeping these regular updates is very appreciated! Thank you.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey William! I'm glad you're enjoying the content. At some point we'll be putting together a 2 year before and after to see just what changes have already happened.

Thank you for the very informative video. I also planted some Citrus trees and this is very good advice. Greetings from South Africa

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Riana! Wow, South Africa, how cool is that to be sharing this with you! What types of citrus do you have available over there?

Snake 8:42. I've got the small brown ones living in my hardwood-mulch & there are very interesting looking Buttermilk Racers that constantly pass through too.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I had to look at that one a few times. While we have our fair share of snakes around here, I think that was a lizard. I haven't seen a Buttermilk Racer. We have Red Racers that come through pretty often though.

@paigeburton8995

2 жыл бұрын

i seen that too lol

Excellent another video. Lot to learn, You are Master of puring and plant management.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed this one Abid and as always, thank you for the gracious comment!

Love it!! I have a feeling that I will be going back through all of these fruit tree videos again, soon lol

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

We're keeping our fingers crossed for that land Kylan!

Helpful info. Sir!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

Ай бұрын

Glad you found this one useful!

Those trees are so green amazing job

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing like that green around you Matola! That is something to behold.

Great job, thank you for sharing.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Daniel! I imagine this was all old hat for you, but I appreciate you watching and commenting. One of these days we need to meet you guys in person!

You’re funny Great informative video…once again

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed this one Steven!

Lol, that part about seeing down your shorts made me chuckle, literally every time you squat down I think, Duane better be careful and not move or there’s gonna be problems, haha! I guess I’m gonna bite the bullet and plant my citrus collection in the ground. I always was worried about them freezing and also thought it would be difficult to amend my soil to be acidic enough for them to be happy. Did you guys do anything special when you planted yours? I remember one video you made and I think it may have been the first tree you planted next to your chicken coop, maybe even on the new farm, was a citrus, I’ll go dig that up and rewatch it. I’d love to have a large collection of citrus on my property, but those nights in the 20’s in January and February always made me hesitant.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's worth going for it Jared. I know the C-35 rootstock is very common in Cali and supposedly holds up to colder temps a bit better. Thinking that should be pretty common at your local nurseries.

Good info on citrus trimming, mine are dwarf or semi dwarf growing in barrels until I get the backyard fenced, but wasn't sure about trimming up from the bottom since they are getting shade from the hanging branches.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Potted trees are always a bit dicey, so I would be cautious with much pruning. They need all the shade they can get to maintain soil temp and moisture. What you see us trimming to here is probably about as high as we'll prune for the life of these trees and we plan on letting these go to full size over time.

@hummingbirdheightsfarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I thought so, when they get moved to final spot in the ground will see about trimming then!

Very impressive citrus thinning-harvest. I have many of those varieties & my only producer is a Satsuma. USDA zone 9b.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

How old are those trees Bob? I'm curious, because we've had the opposite problem out here. On the old farm we had a Satsuma and it was the only citrus that never produced and seemed to struggle. Our go-to nurseryman said they need consistent moisture which is something we have very little of out here.

@SlackerU

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I have a MIHO & it produced a couple fruit the first year & now has over a dozen on it's 2nd season/year. My Satsuma tree is more than double the size of my four different mandarin/tangerine trees.

thanks a lot for your VID , pls we need view by Drone for update your farm

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

Жыл бұрын

Hey Aly. We do need to get another drone shot with an update. Once it cools down and before the trees go dormant maybe.

Great video! With so many fruit bearing trees, bushes and vines what is the end goal when all are producing prolifically? Will you sell fruit then? I know you two make various wines but, is that for home use then? Thank you for producing these videos, I look forward to them.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Great question and it's a little bit of all of those. We have a few "production" trees that we plan on selling the fruit from. Primarily peaches, apples, mulberries and jujube. Definitely lots of wine and fresh eating for us, but the whole process of planting, pruning, irrigating, etc is also part of our business plan. We share all of the techniques we find successful and folks just like you watch our content here on YT. We don't make a lot from YT, but it's part of the business income.

Have you considered growing Opuntia Prickly Pear Cactus for the tuna and the pads? You'll likely get a good yield for your or livestock consumption. Easy to propagate.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Great question Jere and we may add them over time. We've grown them before and the challenge for us was harvest time. Dealing with the spines on the fruit can be a real pain...literally! A blow torch helps though.

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@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed this one guys!

Your video really demonstrates how much water/juice the citrus trees produce, which speaks to how much water they need to produce all that juicy fruit. I noticed that you used the IV Organics product to protect the tree trunk in this video. In past videos you used Arizona's Best. Do you prefer to use one over the other, and if so, why?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

It really is amazing to see how these trees convert water into fruit. They are much more drought tolerant than most of our other trees, so it really is a great option for us out here in the desert. The 2 main reasons we switched to the IV organics is the organic aspect and the addition of the critter protection. Between the essential oils and the DE, it seems to do a good job deterring rabbits, ground squirrels and even wood peckers from chewing on the bark.

@michaelmekjian4344

2 жыл бұрын

I also use the IV Organics, and when I read the ingredients label on Arizona's Best, it is a latex vinyl paint, which I guess does not harm the tree, but I have my reservations. But then there is the cost difference, which for a small backyard hobbyist like myself, is manageable, but for a commercial grower with lots of trees, the cost can add up.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmekjian4344 very true. One of the things we focus on here is keeping as low a canopy as we can to keep those trunks protected during the Summer which will hopefully keep us from having to paint the trunks very far up (just to keep the rodents from munching).

@michaelmekjian4344

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm That makes a lot of sense, and would be more economical. Thanks for the clarification.

I would have a hard time pruning these little lemon trees so heavily, eliminating the ground cover, but thank you for sharing your ideas.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely optional, but we like to be able to quickly see if we have either sucker growth or trunk damage near the graft point. We nearly lost our Trovita on the old property to wood pecker damage if you can believe it. They nearly girdled the tree about a foot above the graft point. Since that experience we prune to no higher that about what you're seeing here.

@piotr4248

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thank you for sharing. My friend in Phoenix had a beautiful tangerine tree that used to have millions of fruit, and one year ... the tree died for unknown reasons. He told me that citrus trees are not native to AZ, but they do well there if protected from the sun and if supplied with an adequate amount of water.... and from woodpeckers??:))

Impressive amount of fruits! I wish I could grow oranges in my climate... Your trees are still very young and not very tall. What do you plan to do with them in the future - let them grow into height or training somehow to expand horizontally?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Great question here Tonis. Citrus does really well for us here in AZ and you can really grow them however you would like. These will be for production to some extent, but they're also designed to give a large, evergreen "hedge" across the front of the farm. With that we'll allow them to grow pretty natural and keep their bush type shape. Shy of cleaning up the bottom like you're seeing here we won't do a whole lot beyond removing dead/dying branches. Over time we will prune them up a bit farther, but keeping plenty of shade on the trunks to prevent sunburn naturally.

@tonisee2

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm It seems indeed, that after some years you will have nice shade + fruits.

Great videos very positive and upbeat. Background music, on the other hand, (minor chord progressions) not so much. Your farm is about life in the desert. Ie balance….🙏🔑✌️

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed this one and it's funny you mention the music. When we were cutting that in it was early in the morning and I hadn't had any coffee yet. That may be the reason for the milder music!

Hey Duane, I live in the high desert ,zone 8b in Southern California. Our winters get down to around 22 degrees and all the local nurseries tell me you can’t grow citrus in ground up here. I have some citrus in pots that I protect during the winter but I would love to grow a tree in the ground . How cold are your winters? And do you protect your trees? Thanks

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

This is a GREAT question and we have some experience with this. I'll try to be brief, but we have hit 20 degrees solid on a few occasions out here and we have seen varying degrees of stress on certain varieties. The lemon trees, naval oranges, grapefruit and mandarins seem to muscle through with only a few issues (leaf dieback). The lime and pummelo really struggled, but did pull through. If you're going to try one in the ground I would probably try a mandarin of some sort and see how it does. They tend to be more cold hardy and because they are usually more dwarfing they would be easy to cover.

@puckjohn

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thanks Duane , I already have a grapefruit , mandarin, and a kumquat. I’m going to put those in the ground and see how they do this winter. Love the channel ♥️

@heleneconte330

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been wondering the same. We’re in the Sierra Vista, AZ area (higher altitude than Phoenix) and the temps drop quite a bit during the winter nights. We’d love to find the right citrus varieties that can withstand the cold. Thank you, Duane, for your answer.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

@@heleneconte330 sure thing. Hopefully you'll be enjoying home grown citrus here soon!

I like the little citrus to flavor tea. Crush and drop in the tea, then next day discard. They taste like limes. The Meyer's lemon is coming back slowly. After planting late in winter, it dropped most of the leaves. We use lemons by the bushel, so a tree or 2 is good. I have been taking suckers, branches that look strange, almost bony, I guess, with misshapen leaves. Got most of the mesquite picked off the bush in the backyard. That makes a great flour. But, great news is, I was driving by a house with a Golden Dorsett and saw apples on the ground. the lady was outside and I asked if she wanted to sell them. "15,000 bucks! But if you clean them all up, just take them and save me from having to throw them away." You can't beat that with a stick. I picked about a half-bushel but she yelled No climbing! But the ones up top are small and too green to make sauce, so I'm supposed to come back next week. Man, the blooms on the tree again! Thick! hasta, kids, very good video!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Martin! Those Meyer lemons can be really finicky. This tree seems to be putting on green pretty steady, but we've had issues with heavy fruit set and almost no leaf matter to speak of! Strange little trees. Now, free apples, I would be all over that! Especially with wine making season in full swing for us around here. They make for a FANTASTIC, dry white wine.

@marschlosser4540

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm The worse hangover I ever had was on a cousin's applejack. But, before I was 21, we used to dink a lot of apple wine and hard cider. hasta!

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@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed this one Iris!

I saw in a Japanese anime that they thin the flowers on the tree, not the fruit. 1 flower per cluster of ~ 5 leaves. Seems easier.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Virgie. We prefer to thin after fruit set to ensure we know how many of the fruit will actually hold on the tree. Many of the fruit that initially set are blown off by the wind, or in our case, removed due to pruning.

I love that your farm is out in the middle of nowhere. That's like a dream of mine. Sadly, one day, you'll be surrounded by houses and strip malls. That will be a sad day indeed. Sorry to be such a bummer. I come from Southern California, and I remember when Disneyland was surrounded by strawberry fields and now they're almost 4 million people in the area. I've seen beautiful openness be destroyed. They're starting to do it here in Gold Canyon as well. It's breaking my heart. I don't want to live in a SoCal environment ever again.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Taylor. SoCal native here as well (this is Duane) and I know just how you feel. We have the city quickly approaching and I imagine before we pass we'll see the whole area around us fill in. I suppose we'll have to settle for enjoying it while we can.

Can you grind up the lemons after juicing and use as mosquito repellent?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

Жыл бұрын

That's a great question Tomas and I have no idea. I do know that citronella is derived from lemongrass, so it may not work quite the same.

Im having issues with ANY of my fruit trees producing fruit. I generally dont fertilize them and im also in vegas. I have a thick layer of wood chips down and drip irrigation on them. They are all about less than 2 years old. Oro blanco grapefruit, variegated lemon, a tangerine and a buddahs hand. Any suggestions?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Edward. I can't speak for Vegas specifically, but the soil and climate here in AZ is what really drives the growth and production of citrus trees. While we have similar high and low temps, the soil is drastically different. Ours is primarily clay with very little sand and also heavy amounts of mineral content. From what other viewers in Vegas have told me, you guys have more of a sandy soil which is very similar to Florida (another citrus growing state). However, the root stocks for sandy soil are quite different from clay soils, so it may be that the root stocks you're finding are not ideal. Other than that, we plant, irrigate and fertilizer these trees on the same schedule. The major difference in fertilizing is we use higher nitrogen with these as they are evergreen. Most "fruit tree" fertilizers that are not designed for citrus don't have enough nitrogen to really drive their health and growth.

Good looking trees. Sadly my blood orange looks sad again this year even though I am fertilize it and giving it plenty of water. Second year in the ground with a thick layer of mulch. =/

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I have to admit, we had issues with our blood orange on the old farm as well. I'm pretty confident it was the soil we had it planted in (it was near the house, so it was some type of fill to bring it up to grade). Do you know what kind of root stock it's on? One of the issues we had with that one was the citron root stock it came on from Home Depot. This one is on a sour orange root stock which is better for our soils around here.

@TheFlametalon

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Not sure about the root stock, though it is one thing I think may be the problem. Got it from A&P, had a tag from Sunset Nursery on it.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFlametalon ah ok. Sunset Nursery is usually a good source for citrus trees for us being in Yuma.

My citrus are showing lots of water sprouts...long branches growing straight up with no fruit and big thorns. The leaves even look bizarre. For pruning these shoots, I'd image trimming those all the way back to their base is best, right? I'm not thinking they'll have fruit and I dont need aggressive branches stealing nourishment. Any thoughts or experience with that? Thank you for continuing your farm experience with us all.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin. This sounds like sucker growth to me. Can you easily identify the graft point and are these growing from above that union?

@kevincharles112

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm these are far up the tree ... not near the base or graft at all. I'll see if I can get some photos

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevincharles112 10-4

I wish I could grow my citrus and guava in ground

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing you're not here in the valley?

@odomshomestead

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm No in Tennessee

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

@@odomshomestead oh wow, that's a bit different from what we see around us here. I imagine a bit more green when you look out the window!

8:44, there is snake under the tree right?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

We had another viewer point that out and it actually looks like a lizard. We do get our fair share of snakes around here, but it's pretty rare to see one out in the open like that by mid-morning. It's already pushing 100 degrees by that time, so they're bedded down for the day by then.

I use A LOT of lemons. I really want a tree, but I want it to stay small. Is there a variety that doesn't get much taller than 6 feet?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Great question Taylor and you can usually find Meyer Lemons on dwarfing root stock. At least, I've seen them before. If not, you can easily prune them to keep them smaller in size. That's one of the great things about citrus trees, you can shape them to pretty much anything you need.

what do you guys do for suckers? i clip mine as far back as i can get but they just regrow within a month

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Great question and we were just talking about an episode on suckers. We actually did one a few years back that I'll link for you here; kzread.info/dash/bejne/onh9tsdweMStl8Y.html Keep in mind this is an older video and I (Duane) was pretty nervous on camera, so lots of talking and very few breaths between. I'll apologize in advance!

@brendan3081

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm hey no worries, thanks for the link

My lemon tree and orange has all thorns and very few leaves. No fruit. Have you ever had this problem?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Nancy. We have seen that with Meyer lemon trees in the past. They set VERY heavy fruit loads and seem to only put on leaves when they've set WAY too many fruit for the tree to handle. 2 questions. How old are the trees? Do you know what root stock they're on?

I have an Owari that came to me early this summer. I'm in TX where we've had 100+ for months and drought. My Owari orange is struggling a lot. Not sure what to do. Help?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, we have tried Owari Satsuma as well and did not have success. Our go-to source of fruit trees has been growing his own rootstocks and run his nursery for his entire life (past retirement age, but still going so that's quite some time) and he said to skip that variety here in AZ. According to him, that tree requires consistent humidity and a lack of severe temp swings (ala tropical areas) to be successful. The other issue may be roostock and he said without the proper root stock it would be extremely difficult to attempt it here in the desert. Even with a good root stock it would need to be kept in a pot and moved according to the seasons along with misting systems, etc to keep the moisture up.

@concken1

Жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm ah, I see! The rootstock is the triloba one and it's persistent in suckering. Oh well. 😞

I'm assumming that when the trees get older you will not trim or thin.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Eventually we will be able to cut way back on thinning. In fact, our larger mandarin trees we thinned very little this time around already. The one we seem to have to thin every year is grapefruit. The trees can handle the fruit load as the get older, but it's just too much fruit to handle! The height you see us pruning to here is about as high as we will go and we plan on letting these trees grow to full maturity, height wise.

how can you tell if your citrus has sunburn?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

Жыл бұрын

Usually the trunk will start to blister and crack. Then it will turn from brown to black in that area and the outside layer of the bark will chip and/or peal away.

@concken1

Жыл бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thanks!!

I thought Citrus is supposed to be a bush not tree???

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Rodney. You're correct in that they will grow like bushes when left to their own devices. The pruning you're seeing us doing bringing the canopy up is about as far as we will go for these trees. From here they will be left pretty much as bushes. We prefer to see the graft point on the tree for a couple of reasons. The primary one is to make sure we don't have trunk damage form rodents. We also need to be able to see the ground to ensure we don't have snakes. We get visitors here quite often and want to keep everyone safe.

Thank you so much for your video. I live about five miles down the road from you. I find it so painful to prune the excess fruit but I know I have to do it. 🥲

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

Жыл бұрын

Hey Neighbor! It was really hard for us as well for a long time, but as you know the fruit and the tree are better!

I need help! I am growing various fruit trees here in Az and my trees are just not thriving 🥲Any guidance would be so appreciated!!!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Delnia. Wow, that's a really tough question to answer here on KZread as there are countless reasons for trees that are not thriving. A few things to consider. How deep were the trees planted and can you see the root flare? What kind of irrigation are you using and how much water are they receiving? Drip, hand water, bubbler, flood? How old are the trees? Do they get full sun or are they shaded in any way? Are they planted near a building or wall? What rootstocks are they on? How often do you fertilize and with what?