Arizona Fruit Trees (Jay Barringer) is a good choice for those of you on the east side. He has a large selection and great quality.. He also has a wealth of knowlege...

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Great shout out!

I have a question I've never asked before. Who wanted to start the farm first, "Duane or Lori?" Whose vision was it that got things moving?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure it was me (Duane). Lori was on board right away though, so it has always been a team effort.

Yes, I love IV Organics.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

That stuff really is amazing. A bit pricey, but worth it in our opinion. Especially for those new plantings!

It all depends what type of tree it is. If it's tropical , get it planted in the spring so it can get the root system growing before the cold hits. They love the warm weather. Never plant a tropical in the cold. And shade them for the first year or so. Even tropicals bite the dust once the heat and sun hits. Mulberries plant anytime, I dont think anything can kill it. Other deciduous trees like pommes (apple,pear) stone fruits (peaches, nectarines, plums) make sure you get a good Arizona soil friendly rootstock. That home Depot fruit trees will die, every time.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Great notes here! ❤️

I bought two loquat seedlings from a local guy out here and I am so ready to plant them, but I am waiting until October. It is almost time....woo hoo! Thank you for such a detailed video on planting.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

We're pretty much there, so I say plant away!!!

Thanks for all the great Arizona specific info!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Glad you're enjoying these!

Great job, never plant a $$$ tree in a 3 dollar hole. Extra credit for wearing flip flops 😅

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Ha! Lori pointed out the flipflops and said somebody would probably point that out!

Another great video. Thank you.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed this one!

Thank you for your help.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Glad you found this one useful!

I'm curious if you have ever dug a deep hole as an experiment to see how your trees perform? Maybe plant some seedlings so you don't waste money on expensive shop bought trees. I would have thought that all of the water and mulch would leach downwards and improve the soil all the way down over time, unless of course that deep soil layer you speak of is incredibly rocky and porous

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, the challenge is the caliche layer that's about 2' down and can found off and on up until about 10'. It's pretty consistent around the farm and pretty much everywhere around the Phoenix area.

@Puaspapa

9 ай бұрын

Does that caliche layer have some kind of minerals for the roots to absorb?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

@@Puaspapa There is a lot of calcium in it, so as long as there's some soil biology it can be absorbed.

If you have comfrey around, make some comfrey tea and give it to your citrus. Really gets them growing fast!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Hmm, haven't heard of that before!

Oh, Duane, your intro got a good laugh from me, esprcially as I know your views on planting trees.😊 Thankyou for this refresher course and sharing your knowledge. Much appreciated.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

I really don't know what's wrong with me, but I always say I'm done planting trees...in the Spring...and then Fall rolls around!

Been looking for a 15 gallon Trovita orange tree. All I’ve been able to find were 3 or 5 gallon ones. I have a 3 year old Cara Cara orange tree, was a little worried this summer but it’s really doing well now. Looking like I will have to wait for Spring. I love oranges and after I heard your Trovita recommendation I knew I’d have to try planting one. No worries, I still have plenty of other gardening projects. Need something to look forward too. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

If you're here in AZ you may have luck at Elgin nursery on the West side or Greenfield on the East side.

@daveaz9962

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thank you, I live in Phoenix and will give Elgin Nursery a try. Hoping you can retire soon and work full time on your farm!

Excellent video. lot to learn

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed this one Abid!

Thanks! 🌞🏜️

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Hey guys, glad you enjoyed this one!

Eline emeğine sağlık bu güzel video için kolay gelsin hayırlı işler....👍👍👍👍

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Teşekkürler Mesut!

Your loquat is looking really great. I dont understand how they grow so well for you. Im in chandler and mine is not looking great

@alaskanprideseafoods1766

9 ай бұрын

I feel the same way. Mine gets afternoon shade and looks nowhere near as good as theirs. I'm in Northern Glendale.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

We don't do anything special with them, but I will say planting time (October) and full sun are our keys to success.

This was great timing for this video, thanks! I lost 2 trees over the summer and I'm trying to figure out what I want to plant in their place. One loss was a loquat which never really took off. I'm convinced I just got the wrong variety because everything else in that area of my yard is growing like a champ. Where did you get your loquat trees, and if you could only grow one, which would you pick? I planted (and lost) a Christmas loquat. I did ZERO research and just picked what some nursery had available. Now I want to do better. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like RSI sells loquats.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear about your loquat. As we discussed in this episode, we're 5 for 5 on loquats when planted in the month of October, so now is the time if you can find them. As for variety, the only 1 we've had so far that we would skip in the future is the Gold Nugget. The fruit is small and as the last to ripen, is pounded by the sun. The Champagne, MacBeth and Yehuda are all solid options in our experience. Shamus is usually a good option for loquats. We bought our last 4 from Richard's Garden Center in North Phoenix. If they're still around A Tropical Concept on Facebook is where we bought the Yehuda on the old farm, but that was several years ago.

I have never heard you talk about mango plant in your farm.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

We don't have plans to attempt mango here on the farm. We're about 4-5 degrees cooler than folks in town, so both our winters and summers will easily kill them without a lot of attention...which is something we don't want to commit to!

I don’t know I wish you guys all the luck , you definitely have more devotion that I have left, I think this last summer was the end of it, if it’s not one thing after another, as example, 3 fruit trees went down because of bad graphs from reeds, literally came apart at the graph, and now dealing with the freeze or extreme heat temperatures, year after year, replacing apricots, kumquats, bananas, or Shangri-La mulberry, totally defoliated as my royal Poinciana did too, lost all my guavas, but at least they survived, and are leaving out again, it just seems like it’s not worth the effort anymore or the cost,

@mike_au

9 ай бұрын

Maybe try fruit trees more suited to you area? Where I live in the hot, relatively dry subtropics, all the shops sell this olive species supposedly suited to the area, but I dont know anyone who has successfully grown it. Wouldn't date palms, or maybe fig trees be a few better options? Once those are established you will have the wind break and sun shelter for other species?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Wow, I'm really surprised to hear you're losing all those trees! Usually I wouldn't be too concerned with just planting into the soil, but I wonder if there is something nefarious in your soil? We did have a problem with Reid's apricots breaking at the graft, but that's not uncommon. We've never had issues with any of his other trees. If you're willing, can you send us some pics of your planting area as well as the area immediately around it?

@dunedainmom

9 ай бұрын

😭 i have killed 3 peach trees.. but now have 5 peach trees still alive. One THRIVING and other hanging on. The thriving one got 12" of mulch and daily watering (i put in an automatic system this summer). This summer was awful. The relentless heat and nonexistent monsoon season just killed trees left and right. The automatic watering system i put in (not hard, went to sprinkler world and got the parts for better than home depot prices, plus they told me how to do it) And the chip drop (free) are what saved my trees this summer. I will say mulberries thrive. With water, they don't mind the heat. I don't have a green thumb, killed alot, but the pakistani mulberry is HUGE , gives shade, and grows in proportion to how much I water it. I can't overrated it. It just grows.... I've killed so much in 2.5 yrs, often feel like giving up. But every time I try again, try to add more woodchips, more water, bigger berms, thata what helps. Greening my barren suburban lot near Phoenix. Lots of setbacks.but don't give up. Sometimes have to cry. But it gets better

How long do you water newly planted trees with the B1 and fish emulsion? BTW, I love your channel! 😁

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

8 ай бұрын

Glad you're enjoying the content. We only use the Fish Emulsion/B-1 at planting time and then they go on the regular fertilizing schedule. I'll link to a Video on that for you here; kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKhp26StoMq-mag.html

Your planting rings are brilliant? Did you guys come up with that yourselves?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

We had standard rings on the old farm with drip irrigation run to them, so we were used to planting in a ring. The double ring was something I thought of after starting the trees here on this farm and wanting the ability to replace trees as needed without having a separate irrigation setup for them. We also planted in a couple of rounds, so we needed to be able to water old and young trees on the same zone.

@taylorvanbuskirk8040

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm You're a born farmer!

Vocês terão melhores resultados se plantarem árvores de extratos diferentes, junto com as frutíferas. ❤

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

6 ай бұрын

Você pode me dar um exemplo do que você quer dizer?

@mirleydamazio628

6 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Desculpa se ando dando muitos palpites, mas estou amando assistir os seus vídeos. Sobre extratos de plantas funciona assim: Cada grupo de plantas tem uma necessidade diferente de luz solar. Por isso,em uma floresta natural, há plantas que se sairão melhor se estiverem obtendo muita luz, outras menos luz, algumas pouquíssima luz. Isso não tem a ver com altura das plantas, mas quando se trata de árvores, normalmente as mais altas são as que precisam de mais sol e isso muda também, conforme a idade da planta. Frutíferas normalmente ocupam o extrato médio quando adultas, mas quando são pequenas, precisam de mais sombra. Ernest Gotsch já identificou ,se não me engano, 11 extratos, mas podemos pensar nisso como plantas ocupando vários andares dentro de uma floresta. Então, plantas isoladas até produzem, mas podem sofrer com o sol ou falta de sua luz. Vi que você colocou sombrite em algumas de suas árvores e passou tinta em seus caules , para protegê- las. Isso não seria necessário se você plantasse outras espécies que pudessem fazer um pouco de sombra nelas, tanto de extratos mais altos como mais baixos. As plantas se ajudam nessa questão, uma protege a outra. Além disso, quanto mais diverso e adensado for sua linha de árvores( ou plantas de horta), melhor suas plantas se sairão e ficarão livres de pragas também. Você pode plantar árvores que te darão madeira ( inclusive eucaliptus) e árvores de serviço( palma forrageira,leguminosas,plantas de crescimento rápido, bananeiras, entre outras. As plantas de serviço, você precisará podá- las conforme as estações e regime de chuvas de sua área. Com o tempo, você vai raliando sua linha de árvores, eliminando parte delas,deixando as de seu interesse. Porém, sempre é importante ter árvores mais altas que suas frutíferas,próximas a elas. Você vai controlando a incidência de sol, fazendo podas. Essas podas, são fontes riquíssimas de matéria orgânica, que você poderá usar para proteger seu solo e também como alimento para seus animais. * Eu sou leiga nesse assunto, tenho aprendido muito com Ernest Gotsch, Antônio Domingues- agrofloresta e outros agroflorestores do Brasil. Muitas bençãos para vocês! * Posso mandar links, se você quiser. * Existem outras varáveis dentro do sistema sintrópico( que é diferente da permacultura). É um assunto muito extenso.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

6 ай бұрын

@@mirleydamazio628 Obrigado por essa informação. Estou um tanto familiarizado com plantações companheiras em situações de florestas alimentares, então isso faz muito sentido. Obrigado pelos detalhes!

What was the ratio of the fertilizer? I am extremely new to planting things and want to avoid burning another seedling. Thank you

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

We use 2-4 tablespoons each of the fish emulsion and Vitamin B-1 mixed into 2 gallons of water. That way it's very mild and won't damage any feeder roots.

@Chuyperez59

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thank you! Great video, do you by chance have one on how big/old does a seedling need to be before planting it, would love to check it out

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

@@Chuyperez59 hmm, I don't think we've done a vide on the age of a seedling. The only trees we plant as seedlings are figs and mulberries. Both of those you can usually plant after 1 full season in a pot. We'll need to cover that in a future eisode!

Do your mature trees still rely on the outer ring for watering?🤔🤔🤔

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

They do. Eventually we'll extend them so as to completely encompass the bubbler, but they're not quite there yet.

You soil is amazing compared to mine. Mine is 70% rock.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Rocks can be tricky. Hard to get a tree started and needs some screening, but they can make it easier for the roots to penetrate the soil if they're larger rocks.

Where did you find the vitamin solution? My soil is screaming for fertilizer.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

You can usually find that at Home Depot in the garden section near the fertilizers.

How does the Mexican lime compare the bearss lime, in quality and fruit size?.. I got my first have from my potted Mexican lime still waiting for my in ground bearss lime to hold the fruit.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Hey Charles! We have not grown this one before, so I can't say with experience. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for your Bearss lime. By the way, we always wave at the planes flying over the farm!

@charlessingletaryiii331

9 ай бұрын

@EdgeofNowhereFarm You guys are a huge inspiration of mine. When I get a chance to fly Wittman I make it a point to sneak a peak. Thanks you guys for all that you do. Sharing of information and skills..

What month do I prune my peach tree and nectarine tree.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Those are pruned in the Winter once the trees are completely dormant. For us that's usually late December/early January. That way they're done before they break dormancy which can be as early as late January!

I just bought a bears line from Costco. How do I avoid the disease? I just planted it in a pot a week ago.

@mateocitrus

9 ай бұрын

It’s called wood pocket and is in every known bearss/persian lime tree. I would say to just keep the tree as healthy as you can and enjoy the produce that comes off of it. How fast the disease (genetic/virus) takes down the tree can vary based on environmental conditions and some don’t see it for a decade or so.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

It looks like somebody answered this one for you!

Do any of those nursery’s ship? I’m in west Texas 😅

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

You can definitely find some online nurseries that will ship to you. Our local guy, RSI Growers, doesn't ship unfortunately. The regulations to ship live plants in and out of Arizona make it really tough to do. We've looked into it and it's just not worth the hassle unfortunately.

@yaima0901

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm yeah i was trying to find some with the right rootstock 🥲

What would be the best desert peach. Over 110 in summer….in the 20s. Last time I did look it’s seemed to be the saucer or flat types.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Either the FlordaPrince or Texas King would be our top picks. The Texas King is only available from RSI Growers here in town as he has a license to propagate and sell them.

@gordybishop2375

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm dang I live in California. Will look for a Florida Prince.

@gordybishop2375

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm time to plant is now though correct?

@gordybishop2375

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm they don’t need to be paired?

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

@@gordybishop2375 now is definitely a good time to plant. Anytime Fall through Spring.

Lmao! You're the first person I've ever heard aside from Yosemite Sam say the word , " Varmint". 😂😂😂😂

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

And I didn't even have a six shooter on me! 😂

@JynxieTheMermaid

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm 😆😅😂🤣

"It was a very good year" unless you went thru an el Nino. So what's to do? Sit back, chug another quart of salsa picante or vino del diablo, and groan over life's little inequities. (Warning! Do not try this at home without expert supervision. If a non-American Indian, stick with something mild like mescal or Pappy's XXX (triple-distilled) moonshine. The life you save may be your own!) Well, next year is coming. My gripe is, every place I can get sipping (cough! shipping!) all have out-of-stock on everything that should be planted here, now. I did get a nice Canyon palm in! But, still waiting to see if the date palm is female. Yeah, and I have to get on someone's back. He owes me two loads (about 6 tons) of rock. There are two retainer walls that need finishing! How can I enjoy my little hobbies without no gosh durn rocks to play with? niio, kids!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

Ok, Martin what the heck is Vino Del Diablo?

@marschlosser4540

9 ай бұрын

@@EdgeofNowhereFarm A veritable delight for chili lovers. Take ripe chilis, crush into a bucket and ferment for several days. You know the drill :) Ferment the juice till it clarifies, bottle, store. If you'd rather a good, traditional salsa picante, it it turn to chili vinegar and add all the little goodies before canning. Manga, baby! Enjoy! BTW, when you see a Westen with a chow wagon, that little bucket under it was sourdough. They never show the other bucket, the one with salsa picante fermenting. Donno why. It was pretty rare the bucket caught fire. Not like Uncle Ricky's cascabel de vaca (bootleg tequila hauled to town on the backs of range cattle). Open a bottle of that pray it doesn't explode in flames LOL.

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

@@marschlosser4540 😂😂Martin, your stories are the best!

Your tree won't get beriberi!

@EdgeofNowhereFarm

9 ай бұрын

That's for sure!