This is an instructional video showing how to install Sulastic Springs on a 2013 Ford F250. Leave any questions or comments below!
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@chetusher32255 жыл бұрын
Great video, you are a gifted teacher. Clear and concise. Thank you
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Chet Usher thank you!
@pjaygreene99785 жыл бұрын
Love the tip bout labeling where the pieces you remived came from! V
@secretsquirrel572 Жыл бұрын
I’m just ordered about $3500 worth of suspension upgrades from Carli to include brand new shackles that are designed with a new bushing to minimize jarring from the rear end. Their instructions have you remove the entire leaf pack to install the shackles. I’m so glad I found this because I didn’t think I needed to remove everything. I’m running an airbag system so removing all that would be incredibly painful. Thanks for the video!!
@YouSoCouldHaveGotMe4 жыл бұрын
Dude great work and video. Really helpful
@houndsmanone45633 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a set of sulastic shackles this morning and they should arrive sometime next week. Your video shows how to install them and I can't'wait to install them and get some relief from sharp jolts from driving over any bumps. I realize the shackles won't eliminate 100% of the jolt but passengers will appreciate the relief (especially if they're in the rear seat. Full-watch; have a fine week. New Subscriber to show support. 👍🏽🙂.
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it and hope you get the ride you want out of the product!
@Kerr1st4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Couple things that helped me. The key for me was getting the frame high enough. I put the 12 ton harbor freight Jack stands on driver side front leaf spring mount(spring is not touched) as high as they go allows for the differential to be jacked to release those bolts raised up with 2/6 blocks of wood. Another trick was taping with scotch tape the washers together right through the middle of the washers. This kept the 2 on one side 3 on the other from moving. having a hand at that point was great as well
@houndsmanone4563
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea, Kerr to tape the bolts. Will try that technique once I receive the shackles inext week. Thanks and have a fine week.
@bretthansen47735 жыл бұрын
Just installed mine on a 2012 F-350- thanks for the video- it helped immendsely= the hardest part of my job was figuring out how to jack up the vehicle safely to get the wheels off the ground for the install- I have 28 inch jack stands and to support the truck at the frame it was not easy- if you can figure that part out your video got me home free- the sulastic shackles helped my ride significantly as well- 2 thumbs up.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Brett Hansen that was the hardest part for me too. It took some backyard engineering but I got it done! Glad the video helped.
@xy404
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T How are they holding up now after 4 years. I heard some say that they go back after a a few months.
@brandonperschon4495 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just installed them on my 2011 F350. It took me about 90 minutes. They made a huge difference in those sharp bumps. The harshness and spine jarring shock is gone in the rear. And when they wear out, I will keep replacing them as long as I have my truck.
@davidkeppler376 ай бұрын
Great video. Simple, good visuals. Thanks.
@nineofhearts60204 жыл бұрын
Put them on my 15 f250 4x4 crew short bed and I love them . Worth the money 👍
@so_cal_super_T
4 жыл бұрын
Oh good! Enjoy the smoother ride!
@marclussier22756 жыл бұрын
Great video, I bought these for my 2003 Ford f350 crew cab. Now I'm just waiting for the shop to finish installing them. I'm also buying a set for the front. Take care, and thanks again for your hard work and dedication to your videos.
@beri232
5 жыл бұрын
Marc Lussier did you get them installed? Did they improve the harshness at all when you hit bumps while empty? They seem a bit gimicky. I own a 2005 F350 with a Bilstein leveling kit and their shocks all around and it’s driving me nuts.
@scottkouns8578
4 жыл бұрын
Marc Lussier what was your response to the question below. I have a 2000 F350 that I’m thinking of putting a set on back, maybe on front too. Thanks
@marclussier2275
4 жыл бұрын
@@scottkouns8578 , I didn't notice any drastic improvements, I'm still debating whether or not to install a set on the front. What did seem to smooth out the ride, was to add 200lbs of sand bags at the rear of the bed. I've got an 8ft bed with a crew cab. I hope that helps you out. 🤠🙏🇺🇸
@scottkouns8578
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc, thanks for the info and advise. I think I’ll hold off until you do the fronts and can recommend going that route. I too have the crew cab with the longbed.
@marclussier2275
4 жыл бұрын
@@scottkouns8578 You would think that by now, you could have a 1ton truck without it feeling like you were riding in a lumber wagon with steel wheels. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@bladerunner8883 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video it helped with my install
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
Oh good! Glad it helped!
@darrellcoy3 жыл бұрын
Bro...... The rear leaf bolts are cake. I swear we nearly pulled a 2019 F250 Diesel off the dang jackstands trying to remove the front leaf spring bolts. They go back in at 450 in lbs. THATS A PAIN IN THE A$$ UNDER THE TRUCK!!... Perched on jackstands that are on cinder blocks. lmao Thanks for all the info
@randiruge12656 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks so much for this Video! I used it to install mine. 2004 F250 4X4 Extended Cab Long Bed. Here's hopefully my helpful notes. 2 people will be a great help. If you jack by the rear axle, the wheels need to be about 9" off the ground because when you support by the frame, the axle will drop a bunch. I jacked it up, loosened everything but could not get the upper shackle bolts to budge. Tried everything I had including a 3 foot extension. Had to but it all back together and take to the local tire shop. Even the big muscle guy had a hard time breaking them. Came back home and went to town on it. Very difficult to hold heavy Sulastic and get the bolts back in. That's where 2 people would really help. The top of the shackle lined up perfect with the old shackle. I had to use 5 washers on the lower shackle bolt. I put 2 on the axle side and 3 on the frame side of each shackle. My torque specs were 185 for Shackle bolts and 46 for Shocks. Test Ride: What I notice most is that the sharp hits are now softer. Like it has taken the edge off them. I expect they will loosen up as time goes on. I am happy with them so far.
@randiruge1265
6 жыл бұрын
That was 2 washers on the tire side and 3 on the frame side.
@johnharper20165 жыл бұрын
Just installed "Sulastic Shackles" on my 2013 Ford E150 XLT Premium Van with Max Tow Package. 8600 GVW, front axle 3700 LB, rear axle 5120 LB rating. Rode stiff empty. Night and day difference with "Sulastic Shackles" installed. Worth every penny. Easy install in my driveway with simple hand tools. I did find it necessary to remove shock bolts. Took less than 2 hours start to finish. Worth every penny.
@jordenshba9a403
5 жыл бұрын
any updates on your sulastic ?!!
@darrylm36272 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff, Great Tips😃👍🏿2016 F250 XLT 6.2L Flex Fuel 4W 4D 6.5 Bed
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
Almost the exact same truck I have! 👍🏻
@randydcarter3 жыл бұрын
After 3 yrs, you still happy with those shackles
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
I certainly am. Have had zero reason for concern or complaint.
@bethanyjones39596 жыл бұрын
Well done, probably the best product review I have seen. I noticed on your washer count that you put 4 washers on one side and 1 washer on the other, was there any reason to this, or is it just the way things lined up? Thanks for your video, I haven't bought yet but this was very informative.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
It was just the ways things lined up for my install. I'm sure it could be different on a different truck.
@TJ-qz6hr5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you took the time to make this video. Can you tell me if the directions say to tighten the shackles with the springs fully dropped or with the springs fully compressed.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
I tightened while the axle was hanging and then checked again when it was on the ground.
@factionfx4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I wanted to add the torque specs (at least for the 2017-19 F250 trucks). Shackle bolts, 125 ft-lb. lower shock bolt - 111 ft lbs. (upper shock bolt 52 ft lbs). I am also lowering the rear of my truck (using smaller rear blocks). The torque for the u-bolts is 120 ft lbs in a criss cross incrementing pattern, so something like all 50, then all 75, then all 100, then all 120.
@DavidBrooksNYC3 жыл бұрын
solid
@marcushawthorne75186 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian great vid, I’m looking to revalve my fox shocks, found you on one of the forums, had them as well, was wondering if you can tell me your valving that’s on the dust cap(where the shaft goes in)? Should be something like a 30/90.
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Marcus, I have a few numbers on the dust cap, not sure which you need so i will give you all of them. the two sets are: 12467 and 980-24-677
@marcushawthorne7518
6 жыл бұрын
Brian Andrews Thanks Brother!!!
@daniitrevino4739 ай бұрын
if i have a road master coil suspension, do i need to remove it to achieve your instructions?
@wildcatcowboy65915 жыл бұрын
I installed the Silastic shackles on my truck by myself in an hour, plus clean up an hour and twenty minutes
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Wildcat Cowboy it’s pretty easy isn’t it?
@wildcatcowboy6591
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T I didn't have a problem with it
@caroldavid10194 жыл бұрын
Installed Sulastic shackles on my 2016 Ram 3500 2WD with OEM rear air suspension. Easy install, took 1 hour 20 minutes. I drove the hour home from the office/shop on varying road surfaces and speeds and did notice a slight reduction in the impact from minor jolts such as pavement joints and small ripples. Was it work the +400? Time will tell. The next mod is a pair of Thuren front coil springs.
@johnnyohness
2 жыл бұрын
These things are up to 460.00 a pair. WTF? There is just not that much to them. I wonder why they cost so much? You've had them 2 years what do you think of them now?
@so_cal_super_T
Жыл бұрын
big fan. they are holding up great. no complaints
@2philli3 жыл бұрын
Whats the Part Number you used? Do you know the size of the hanger bushing? There Website says M16 or M14.
@everyonelovesfriday20456 жыл бұрын
I ordered some for my 13’ dually I’m a little unclear how you jacked up the truck. Is it resting on jack stand while you manipulate the axle? Great video!!
@bla1879
6 жыл бұрын
I didn't have jack stands large enough but had some big eucalyptus log rounds that I used along with my tallest jack stands. Jack stands went on the frame rails on the side of the truck and the rounds went in the back of the truck on the frame again. You can't jack the axle up because you need to be able to have the axle unsprung so you can do everything you need to do. Youll need to get some monster jack stands and use them under the frame rails.
@everyonelovesfriday2045
6 жыл бұрын
Was pretty sure that’s what you did. Thanks for the reply. My kit came in yesterday looking forward to a smoother unsprung ride.... oh nice vfr 👍
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
MrTeXas thanks man!
@ianday51152 ай бұрын
you had 4 washers one side and 2 the other, isn't it better for alignment to put 3 each side? just asking
@superflyguy2183 жыл бұрын
They seemed to ride better than stock for a bit. I installed these on my 06 dodge 3500 single wheel and just checked 20 mins ago and the rubber bushing is shot and separated on the passenger side already. installed aug of 2019. only lasted 2 years and now I have to figure ut if I want to go through warranty to get new ones as I'm in Canada and sulastics is in the us. just a caution for future buyers.
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the harsher weather up there contributes to quicker deterioration? Had mine in three years and they are still functioning perfectly.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Idk what happened to this set. Installed them and barely drove the truck for that year so basically 1 year of driving on road no offload of any kind or hauling and still the rubber chewed itself out. id go trough the warranty thing but can't find proof of urchace and would still have to send them to the us on y $$ and have to wait. will probably go back to stock soon
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
@@superflyguy218 man that’s a bummer. That sucks that they didn’t last too long.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T meh it is what it is. cheers
@247CAMD5 жыл бұрын
Did this increase the rear height? I have a 2012 F250 with the snow plow prep and camper prep w/ overload springs from the factory and my front sits about 1 3/4" higher than the rear of the truck. If these not only improve ride quality but also bring the rear up to match the front I would love to buy them.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
It did increase the ride height in the rear but by less than an inch. It was hardly noticeable at all. I would not have said there was a difference in ride height if I had not measured before and after. It will improve ride quality though.
@247CAMD
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T okay. Thank you for taking time to reply
@petekane25016 жыл бұрын
After the install did the ride pass the wife test ?? My 2011 f250 certainly rides rough . Need something to improve the ride and between these sulastic or air bags. Anyone got an opinion? Thanks
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
She said it was much better but she still likes it better when there are several hundred pounds in the bed. Much better than before though. Air bags would likely be better but much more expensive.
@faisal75775 жыл бұрын
what does make different to replace original shackle to aftermarket shackle ?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
A softer less jarring ride
@danielsmith79352 жыл бұрын
Left or right is driver seat facing forward
@Mmn27096 жыл бұрын
Was your truck's height any different with the new shackles?
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Mmn2709 it only raised the back a 1/4 inch. And the only way I know that is that I measured before and after starting. To the naked eye it doesn't look any different at all. Some truck models are different though and may add a little more height but nothing more than about an inch.
@traxxi20033 жыл бұрын
We’re you supporting the truck frame with jack stands? Or just the floor jack on the axle ?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
The truck frame was supported on jack stands. You can’t support it on just the differential because you need to remove the lead spring rear shackles. It would also be unsafe to let the weight of the truck be supported on only a floor jack while working underneath it.
@mikz86ta1 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you have put hf the spacer washers on one side and other half on the other to 'center' the shackle? Seems like it would be offset on the one side and tweaked the scholastic part
@mikereidjr5 жыл бұрын
What are the torque specs for the shocks and the shackles or where can I find them?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Mike Reid I would check a chiltons manual or call your local dealership.
@asianboi085 жыл бұрын
It’s been a while since you have them install. How do they still feel? Any long term review?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Very happy with them still. Have had zero problems with the install. Still highly recommend to anyone.
@prilep5
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T great instructions-would you consider short update video?thank you 🚜
@sandrapotter63075 жыл бұрын
I own a 2001 Ford F 250 and I'm having a problem removing the large bolt on the rear spring shackle. It is rusted in. any suggestions
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Try a penetrating oil, like PB blaster. Apply liberally and let it soak in. Or a cheater bar on your wrench.
@Lucky4zo
4 жыл бұрын
Sandra Potter May try soaking for several days in a row
@philipharding18126 жыл бұрын
Did you have any bed hop before install? A harmonic bounce between 45-50 mph? If so, did it get rid of it?
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Philip Harding I had a really bad ride on the freeway at about 70mph. It would bounce violently and it was incredible uncomfortable. It stemmed from cement seamed highways. After the sulastic shocks it helped tremendously. It’s still a stiff ride but now it is an acceptable ride. I would recommend these to anyone and everyone. It will help.
@philipharding1812
6 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! I have a '12 f250 so this is my next purchase!
@bla1879
6 жыл бұрын
you wont regret it.
@gilbvarg22
5 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue with highway hop issue. I did bilstein 5100s upgrade. I also have the factory airbag on the rear axle. I am looking to do the same upgrade. What would be a rough estimate on the time it took? I am mechanically inclined.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
@@gilbvarg22 It took me about an hour, maybe a little longer. It was very straight forward and will be easy if you know your way around a garage. Hardest part is figuring out how to jack the truck up high enough to let the axle droop completely.
@mikhailkimbel914 жыл бұрын
Where do I place my jack stands while lifting on the axle with the jack? Up in front on the Frame or behind you?
@so_cal_super_T
4 жыл бұрын
Mikhail Kimbel I had my jack stands on the frame rails at the rear of the truck. You will need some very large jack stands. Always put them in the safest spot on the frame rails.
@mikhailkimbel91
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks a lot man
@red5rich2 жыл бұрын
How are your Sulastic Springs holding up? Thanks.
@so_cal_super_T
Жыл бұрын
just crawled under and took a look and they look great and are still operating perfectly. I live in southern California though so very mild winters, no snow/ice/salt and very little rain.
@billferguson1393 жыл бұрын
Two years later, what are your current opinions on the Sulastic?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
Worth every penny and glad I made the switch. I have towed, hauled and traveled thousands of miles and have zero complaints about them. Still in great shape and doing exactly what they were designed for
@billferguson139
3 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Thanks for responding. Ordering one today for my 2003 Ram 3500 5.9. I only wish I had discovered this years ago.
@phantomwalker82515 жыл бұрын
read about washer install,there not all 1 side,shackle not centred,should be 3 & 2.or spread to it 3 & 3.as in instructions.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
harry walker on my truck that wasn’t possible. I have had no problems with the ride or function of my install.
@jordenshba9a4035 жыл бұрын
hey, any updates on this shackle, cons pros ?! Thank you for sharing with us
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Two years later I have zero problems with the sulastic shackles. Only a smoother ride and less sharp jolts. No problems towing. Have zero complaints with the product and recommend them to most people i meet with 3/4 ton trucks.
@wihoytshooter5 жыл бұрын
I have air bags installed on my 2015 F-350. At 5:20 in your video you jack it up more to get the top bolt out. Will I have issues doing this with the bags installed? They are Airlift 5000 with the bumper inside. Thanks.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Dave Maffet I couldn’t tell you for sure if you will have a problem or not but I would think not. It only needs to move a fraction of an inch to loosen things up. Should be fine.
@wihoytshooter
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Thank you. I may be able to give this a shot in a week. If I do I'll report back. You video is awesome and I do appreciate you taking the time to make it.
@wihoytshooter
5 жыл бұрын
Brian Andrews that was SUPER easy thanks to your video. I felt I knew exactly what I was in for. I had NO issues raising the axle high enough to get the top bolt out HOWEVER the airbags made it a little issue getting the axle low enough to get the bottom bolt back in on the drivers side.
@a-a-ron8437 Жыл бұрын
I want to get a set but heard they dont last as long. So now I don't know if i want to get a set or save up a bit more for deaver springs.
@bla1879
Жыл бұрын
I would say it depends on the environment you live in. I live in Southern California so we have a mild climate year round with no freezing temps, no chemicals to melt the snow. In this kind of environment they seem to do really well and last a long time. Other more harsh environments where they have more extreme temperatures and road chemicals for melting snow and ice they may not last as long.
@a-a-ron8437
Жыл бұрын
@@bla1879 could be installation error in some of those cases. what's the warranty on those?
@brianhamm775 жыл бұрын
You need jack stands my friend...safety first
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
I used jack stands.
@MrShankspony
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Didn't see a single device to account for catastrophic failure of that jack. Were they under the absolute Rear of frame? Good video though!
@MadLadCustoms
4 жыл бұрын
They were on Jack's that's how he was able to move the axle up and down
@philip482302 жыл бұрын
How well do these Sulastic work towing a 5th wheel
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t towed a 5th wheel with mine but they are supposed to work just fine.
@KratomSyndicate Жыл бұрын
any updates do these still work or they fall apart?
@so_cal_super_T
Жыл бұрын
I crawled under the truck the other day and have good news: Still working, still in one piece no visible problems. They are dirty but still doing their job. Very happy with them.
@johnnyohness2 жыл бұрын
These are now 460.00 a pair. They just keep going up and up and up.
@mohsenalwaily62873 жыл бұрын
Does this soften the suspension or what?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. They dampen the sharp jarring nature of the suspension. I would say they take about 25% of the sharp jarring jerkiness out of the ride.
@oscarfoxman7852 жыл бұрын
How well have they held up?
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
They have been doing great! Through years of trailering, cross country travel and terrible southern CA roads they continue to do exactly what they were supposed to do. Soften up the ride just enough to keep my wife from complaining.
@oscarfoxman785
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Still driving on em til this day?
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarfoxman785 yes sir. Still driving on them.
@oscarfoxman785
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Excellent! I had heard of an incident where some guy had the rubber bushing blow out on his Sulastics. So now I'm going around trying to get info on em.
@Foxxtrott11005 жыл бұрын
Does this affect ride height?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Foxxtrott1100 I measured before and after and believe it was 1/4 inch higher but you absolutely can’t tell without measuring. Doesn’t change the stance in any noticeable way whatsoever.
@Foxxtrott1100
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Thanks for the feedback. I've got a 2019 250. I'll call them to see what they say. Another install video the guy said it raised his shit 2" or something.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Foxxtrott1100 yeah, I’m not sure how the later model trucks are set up but it certainly didn’t raise mine that much.
@jaymesbilly96053 жыл бұрын
Where did you order it from?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
www.sulastic.com
@ashlarxxx5 жыл бұрын
It seems logical. The Sulastic shackles absorb the stress. But the question is what is the life span of this product? Because I think the rubber inside absorbs most of the stress and it will eventually wear out. This product is quite expensive by the way. A little too overpriced in my opinion. Will we be spending that much to replace it every other year?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
ashlarxxx all suspension related components wear out. Everything from tires to ball joints and everything in between. So these wearing out is obvious. I have had mine for years with zero sign of deterioration or wear. However I live in Southern California and rarely venture places with harsh cold weather and treated roads. Expense is a matter of opinion. For me they were worth every penny and I will buy them again when need be. They increased the happiness of my wife concerning the ride of the truck therefore it was worth it. I don’t believe they are overpriced at all.
@baroy19956 жыл бұрын
All washers one side 🆒 now u need check if it is alignment the right position
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Baroy Leyva have you done an install of this nature on this type of vehicle before? All of this work was done to the rear of the vehicle on leaf springs. Both sets of washers were in the same position, mirrored, from one side to another. Therefore there would be no alignment issues.
@DynoDieselWagon4 жыл бұрын
Im sure the SHOCKS can stay in place
@so_cal_super_T
4 жыл бұрын
If you don't remove the shocks from the axle it makes the process more difficult than it needs to be. It takes less than a minute to loosen both its a quick easy step that makes the whole process faster and easier.
@m2useinu2 жыл бұрын
The passenger side is the right side. It doesn't matter which way you're standing
@hdrottie455 жыл бұрын
Save your money. These are no good! I got less than 2 years out of them. The centers broke loose. Worthless!
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
I have only had positive experiences with my truck. I have had mine for just a month shy of 2 years and they are still strong, and intact. I live in southern California and my truck is never subjected to salted roads or harsh weather. Perhaps that is why you had a different experience.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
They seemed to ride better than stock for a bit. I installed these on my 06 dodge 3500 single wheel and just checked 20 mins ago and the rubber bushing is shot and separated on the passenger side already. installed aug of 2019. only lasted 2 years and now I have to figure ut if I want to go through warranty to get new ones as I'm in Canada and sulastics is in the us. just a caution for future buyers.
@TJ-qz6hr5 жыл бұрын
I tried these, they were awful. Rides worse than factory. Very disappointed ☹️
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
T J if you aren’t trolling I find that impossible to believe if they were installed correctly.
@TJ-qz6hr
5 жыл бұрын
Brian Andrews I’m telling you man, honest to God, they were installed per instructions and your video on a 2016 F350 crew cab long bed dually 4x4 all stock with 20,000 miles. They look exactly like the way you installed them. Pulling a gooseneck trailer it jarred my teeth out and the vibrations were terrible. Put stock shackles back on and it’s back to normal. I don’t think these are built for a 1 ton dually like they say they are. I’m just stating the facts. I know they have good reviews but they don’t work on my truck at all.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
They seemed to ride better than stock for a bit. I installed these on my 06 dodge 3500 single wheel and just checked 20 mins ago and the rubber bushing is shot and separated on the passenger side already. installed aug of 2019. only lasted 2 years and now I have to figure ut if I want to go through warranty to get new ones as I'm in Canada and sulastics is in the us. just a caution for future buyers.
@TJ-qz6hr
3 жыл бұрын
@@superflyguy218 Yep, they definitely aren’t built for the long haul.
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Great video, you are a gifted teacher. Clear and concise. Thank you
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Chet Usher thank you!
Love the tip bout labeling where the pieces you remived came from! V
I’m just ordered about $3500 worth of suspension upgrades from Carli to include brand new shackles that are designed with a new bushing to minimize jarring from the rear end. Their instructions have you remove the entire leaf pack to install the shackles. I’m so glad I found this because I didn’t think I needed to remove everything. I’m running an airbag system so removing all that would be incredibly painful. Thanks for the video!!
Dude great work and video. Really helpful
I just ordered a set of sulastic shackles this morning and they should arrive sometime next week. Your video shows how to install them and I can't'wait to install them and get some relief from sharp jolts from driving over any bumps. I realize the shackles won't eliminate 100% of the jolt but passengers will appreciate the relief (especially if they're in the rear seat. Full-watch; have a fine week. New Subscriber to show support. 👍🏽🙂.
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it and hope you get the ride you want out of the product!
Great video. Couple things that helped me. The key for me was getting the frame high enough. I put the 12 ton harbor freight Jack stands on driver side front leaf spring mount(spring is not touched) as high as they go allows for the differential to be jacked to release those bolts raised up with 2/6 blocks of wood. Another trick was taping with scotch tape the washers together right through the middle of the washers. This kept the 2 on one side 3 on the other from moving. having a hand at that point was great as well
@houndsmanone4563
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea, Kerr to tape the bolts. Will try that technique once I receive the shackles inext week. Thanks and have a fine week.
Just installed mine on a 2012 F-350- thanks for the video- it helped immendsely= the hardest part of my job was figuring out how to jack up the vehicle safely to get the wheels off the ground for the install- I have 28 inch jack stands and to support the truck at the frame it was not easy- if you can figure that part out your video got me home free- the sulastic shackles helped my ride significantly as well- 2 thumbs up.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Brett Hansen that was the hardest part for me too. It took some backyard engineering but I got it done! Glad the video helped.
@xy404
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T How are they holding up now after 4 years. I heard some say that they go back after a a few months.
Thanks for the video. I just installed them on my 2011 F350. It took me about 90 minutes. They made a huge difference in those sharp bumps. The harshness and spine jarring shock is gone in the rear. And when they wear out, I will keep replacing them as long as I have my truck.
Great video. Simple, good visuals. Thanks.
Put them on my 15 f250 4x4 crew short bed and I love them . Worth the money 👍
@so_cal_super_T
4 жыл бұрын
Oh good! Enjoy the smoother ride!
Great video, I bought these for my 2003 Ford f350 crew cab. Now I'm just waiting for the shop to finish installing them. I'm also buying a set for the front. Take care, and thanks again for your hard work and dedication to your videos.
@beri232
5 жыл бұрын
Marc Lussier did you get them installed? Did they improve the harshness at all when you hit bumps while empty? They seem a bit gimicky. I own a 2005 F350 with a Bilstein leveling kit and their shocks all around and it’s driving me nuts.
@scottkouns8578
4 жыл бұрын
Marc Lussier what was your response to the question below. I have a 2000 F350 that I’m thinking of putting a set on back, maybe on front too. Thanks
@marclussier2275
4 жыл бұрын
@@scottkouns8578 , I didn't notice any drastic improvements, I'm still debating whether or not to install a set on the front. What did seem to smooth out the ride, was to add 200lbs of sand bags at the rear of the bed. I've got an 8ft bed with a crew cab. I hope that helps you out. 🤠🙏🇺🇸
@scottkouns8578
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc, thanks for the info and advise. I think I’ll hold off until you do the fronts and can recommend going that route. I too have the crew cab with the longbed.
@marclussier2275
4 жыл бұрын
@@scottkouns8578 You would think that by now, you could have a 1ton truck without it feeling like you were riding in a lumber wagon with steel wheels. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Thanks for this video it helped with my install
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
Oh good! Glad it helped!
Bro...... The rear leaf bolts are cake. I swear we nearly pulled a 2019 F250 Diesel off the dang jackstands trying to remove the front leaf spring bolts. They go back in at 450 in lbs. THATS A PAIN IN THE A$$ UNDER THE TRUCK!!... Perched on jackstands that are on cinder blocks. lmao Thanks for all the info
Hi, thanks so much for this Video! I used it to install mine. 2004 F250 4X4 Extended Cab Long Bed. Here's hopefully my helpful notes. 2 people will be a great help. If you jack by the rear axle, the wheels need to be about 9" off the ground because when you support by the frame, the axle will drop a bunch. I jacked it up, loosened everything but could not get the upper shackle bolts to budge. Tried everything I had including a 3 foot extension. Had to but it all back together and take to the local tire shop. Even the big muscle guy had a hard time breaking them. Came back home and went to town on it. Very difficult to hold heavy Sulastic and get the bolts back in. That's where 2 people would really help. The top of the shackle lined up perfect with the old shackle. I had to use 5 washers on the lower shackle bolt. I put 2 on the axle side and 3 on the frame side of each shackle. My torque specs were 185 for Shackle bolts and 46 for Shocks. Test Ride: What I notice most is that the sharp hits are now softer. Like it has taken the edge off them. I expect they will loosen up as time goes on. I am happy with them so far.
@randiruge1265
6 жыл бұрын
That was 2 washers on the tire side and 3 on the frame side.
Just installed "Sulastic Shackles" on my 2013 Ford E150 XLT Premium Van with Max Tow Package. 8600 GVW, front axle 3700 LB, rear axle 5120 LB rating. Rode stiff empty. Night and day difference with "Sulastic Shackles" installed. Worth every penny. Easy install in my driveway with simple hand tools. I did find it necessary to remove shock bolts. Took less than 2 hours start to finish. Worth every penny.
@jordenshba9a403
5 жыл бұрын
any updates on your sulastic ?!!
Good Stuff, Great Tips😃👍🏿2016 F250 XLT 6.2L Flex Fuel 4W 4D 6.5 Bed
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
Almost the exact same truck I have! 👍🏻
After 3 yrs, you still happy with those shackles
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
I certainly am. Have had zero reason for concern or complaint.
Well done, probably the best product review I have seen. I noticed on your washer count that you put 4 washers on one side and 1 washer on the other, was there any reason to this, or is it just the way things lined up? Thanks for your video, I haven't bought yet but this was very informative.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
It was just the ways things lined up for my install. I'm sure it could be different on a different truck.
I appreciate you took the time to make this video. Can you tell me if the directions say to tighten the shackles with the springs fully dropped or with the springs fully compressed.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
I tightened while the axle was hanging and then checked again when it was on the ground.
Thank you for the video. I wanted to add the torque specs (at least for the 2017-19 F250 trucks). Shackle bolts, 125 ft-lb. lower shock bolt - 111 ft lbs. (upper shock bolt 52 ft lbs). I am also lowering the rear of my truck (using smaller rear blocks). The torque for the u-bolts is 120 ft lbs in a criss cross incrementing pattern, so something like all 50, then all 75, then all 100, then all 120.
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Hey Brian great vid, I’m looking to revalve my fox shocks, found you on one of the forums, had them as well, was wondering if you can tell me your valving that’s on the dust cap(where the shaft goes in)? Should be something like a 30/90.
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Marcus, I have a few numbers on the dust cap, not sure which you need so i will give you all of them. the two sets are: 12467 and 980-24-677
@marcushawthorne7518
6 жыл бұрын
Brian Andrews Thanks Brother!!!
if i have a road master coil suspension, do i need to remove it to achieve your instructions?
I installed the Silastic shackles on my truck by myself in an hour, plus clean up an hour and twenty minutes
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Wildcat Cowboy it’s pretty easy isn’t it?
@wildcatcowboy6591
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T I didn't have a problem with it
Installed Sulastic shackles on my 2016 Ram 3500 2WD with OEM rear air suspension. Easy install, took 1 hour 20 minutes. I drove the hour home from the office/shop on varying road surfaces and speeds and did notice a slight reduction in the impact from minor jolts such as pavement joints and small ripples. Was it work the +400? Time will tell. The next mod is a pair of Thuren front coil springs.
@johnnyohness
2 жыл бұрын
These things are up to 460.00 a pair. WTF? There is just not that much to them. I wonder why they cost so much? You've had them 2 years what do you think of them now?
@so_cal_super_T
Жыл бұрын
big fan. they are holding up great. no complaints
Whats the Part Number you used? Do you know the size of the hanger bushing? There Website says M16 or M14.
I ordered some for my 13’ dually I’m a little unclear how you jacked up the truck. Is it resting on jack stand while you manipulate the axle? Great video!!
@bla1879
6 жыл бұрын
I didn't have jack stands large enough but had some big eucalyptus log rounds that I used along with my tallest jack stands. Jack stands went on the frame rails on the side of the truck and the rounds went in the back of the truck on the frame again. You can't jack the axle up because you need to be able to have the axle unsprung so you can do everything you need to do. Youll need to get some monster jack stands and use them under the frame rails.
@everyonelovesfriday2045
6 жыл бұрын
Was pretty sure that’s what you did. Thanks for the reply. My kit came in yesterday looking forward to a smoother unsprung ride.... oh nice vfr 👍
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
MrTeXas thanks man!
you had 4 washers one side and 2 the other, isn't it better for alignment to put 3 each side? just asking
They seemed to ride better than stock for a bit. I installed these on my 06 dodge 3500 single wheel and just checked 20 mins ago and the rubber bushing is shot and separated on the passenger side already. installed aug of 2019. only lasted 2 years and now I have to figure ut if I want to go through warranty to get new ones as I'm in Canada and sulastics is in the us. just a caution for future buyers.
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the harsher weather up there contributes to quicker deterioration? Had mine in three years and they are still functioning perfectly.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Idk what happened to this set. Installed them and barely drove the truck for that year so basically 1 year of driving on road no offload of any kind or hauling and still the rubber chewed itself out. id go trough the warranty thing but can't find proof of urchace and would still have to send them to the us on y $$ and have to wait. will probably go back to stock soon
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
@@superflyguy218 man that’s a bummer. That sucks that they didn’t last too long.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T meh it is what it is. cheers
Did this increase the rear height? I have a 2012 F250 with the snow plow prep and camper prep w/ overload springs from the factory and my front sits about 1 3/4" higher than the rear of the truck. If these not only improve ride quality but also bring the rear up to match the front I would love to buy them.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
It did increase the ride height in the rear but by less than an inch. It was hardly noticeable at all. I would not have said there was a difference in ride height if I had not measured before and after. It will improve ride quality though.
@247CAMD
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T okay. Thank you for taking time to reply
After the install did the ride pass the wife test ?? My 2011 f250 certainly rides rough . Need something to improve the ride and between these sulastic or air bags. Anyone got an opinion? Thanks
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
She said it was much better but she still likes it better when there are several hundred pounds in the bed. Much better than before though. Air bags would likely be better but much more expensive.
what does make different to replace original shackle to aftermarket shackle ?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
A softer less jarring ride
Left or right is driver seat facing forward
Was your truck's height any different with the new shackles?
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Mmn2709 it only raised the back a 1/4 inch. And the only way I know that is that I measured before and after starting. To the naked eye it doesn't look any different at all. Some truck models are different though and may add a little more height but nothing more than about an inch.
We’re you supporting the truck frame with jack stands? Or just the floor jack on the axle ?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
The truck frame was supported on jack stands. You can’t support it on just the differential because you need to remove the lead spring rear shackles. It would also be unsafe to let the weight of the truck be supported on only a floor jack while working underneath it.
Shouldn't you have put hf the spacer washers on one side and other half on the other to 'center' the shackle? Seems like it would be offset on the one side and tweaked the scholastic part
What are the torque specs for the shocks and the shackles or where can I find them?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Mike Reid I would check a chiltons manual or call your local dealership.
It’s been a while since you have them install. How do they still feel? Any long term review?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Very happy with them still. Have had zero problems with the install. Still highly recommend to anyone.
@prilep5
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T great instructions-would you consider short update video?thank you 🚜
I own a 2001 Ford F 250 and I'm having a problem removing the large bolt on the rear spring shackle. It is rusted in. any suggestions
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Try a penetrating oil, like PB blaster. Apply liberally and let it soak in. Or a cheater bar on your wrench.
@Lucky4zo
4 жыл бұрын
Sandra Potter May try soaking for several days in a row
Did you have any bed hop before install? A harmonic bounce between 45-50 mph? If so, did it get rid of it?
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Philip Harding I had a really bad ride on the freeway at about 70mph. It would bounce violently and it was incredible uncomfortable. It stemmed from cement seamed highways. After the sulastic shocks it helped tremendously. It’s still a stiff ride but now it is an acceptable ride. I would recommend these to anyone and everyone. It will help.
@philipharding1812
6 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! I have a '12 f250 so this is my next purchase!
@bla1879
6 жыл бұрын
you wont regret it.
@gilbvarg22
5 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue with highway hop issue. I did bilstein 5100s upgrade. I also have the factory airbag on the rear axle. I am looking to do the same upgrade. What would be a rough estimate on the time it took? I am mechanically inclined.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
@@gilbvarg22 It took me about an hour, maybe a little longer. It was very straight forward and will be easy if you know your way around a garage. Hardest part is figuring out how to jack the truck up high enough to let the axle droop completely.
Where do I place my jack stands while lifting on the axle with the jack? Up in front on the Frame or behind you?
@so_cal_super_T
4 жыл бұрын
Mikhail Kimbel I had my jack stands on the frame rails at the rear of the truck. You will need some very large jack stands. Always put them in the safest spot on the frame rails.
@mikhailkimbel91
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks a lot man
How are your Sulastic Springs holding up? Thanks.
@so_cal_super_T
Жыл бұрын
just crawled under and took a look and they look great and are still operating perfectly. I live in southern California though so very mild winters, no snow/ice/salt and very little rain.
Two years later, what are your current opinions on the Sulastic?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
Worth every penny and glad I made the switch. I have towed, hauled and traveled thousands of miles and have zero complaints about them. Still in great shape and doing exactly what they were designed for
@billferguson139
3 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Thanks for responding. Ordering one today for my 2003 Ram 3500 5.9. I only wish I had discovered this years ago.
read about washer install,there not all 1 side,shackle not centred,should be 3 & 2.or spread to it 3 & 3.as in instructions.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
harry walker on my truck that wasn’t possible. I have had no problems with the ride or function of my install.
hey, any updates on this shackle, cons pros ?! Thank you for sharing with us
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Two years later I have zero problems with the sulastic shackles. Only a smoother ride and less sharp jolts. No problems towing. Have zero complaints with the product and recommend them to most people i meet with 3/4 ton trucks.
I have air bags installed on my 2015 F-350. At 5:20 in your video you jack it up more to get the top bolt out. Will I have issues doing this with the bags installed? They are Airlift 5000 with the bumper inside. Thanks.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Dave Maffet I couldn’t tell you for sure if you will have a problem or not but I would think not. It only needs to move a fraction of an inch to loosen things up. Should be fine.
@wihoytshooter
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Thank you. I may be able to give this a shot in a week. If I do I'll report back. You video is awesome and I do appreciate you taking the time to make it.
@wihoytshooter
5 жыл бұрын
Brian Andrews that was SUPER easy thanks to your video. I felt I knew exactly what I was in for. I had NO issues raising the axle high enough to get the top bolt out HOWEVER the airbags made it a little issue getting the axle low enough to get the bottom bolt back in on the drivers side.
I want to get a set but heard they dont last as long. So now I don't know if i want to get a set or save up a bit more for deaver springs.
@bla1879
Жыл бұрын
I would say it depends on the environment you live in. I live in Southern California so we have a mild climate year round with no freezing temps, no chemicals to melt the snow. In this kind of environment they seem to do really well and last a long time. Other more harsh environments where they have more extreme temperatures and road chemicals for melting snow and ice they may not last as long.
@a-a-ron8437
Жыл бұрын
@@bla1879 could be installation error in some of those cases. what's the warranty on those?
You need jack stands my friend...safety first
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
I used jack stands.
@MrShankspony
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Didn't see a single device to account for catastrophic failure of that jack. Were they under the absolute Rear of frame? Good video though!
@MadLadCustoms
4 жыл бұрын
They were on Jack's that's how he was able to move the axle up and down
How well do these Sulastic work towing a 5th wheel
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t towed a 5th wheel with mine but they are supposed to work just fine.
any updates do these still work or they fall apart?
@so_cal_super_T
Жыл бұрын
I crawled under the truck the other day and have good news: Still working, still in one piece no visible problems. They are dirty but still doing their job. Very happy with them.
These are now 460.00 a pair. They just keep going up and up and up.
Does this soften the suspension or what?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. They dampen the sharp jarring nature of the suspension. I would say they take about 25% of the sharp jarring jerkiness out of the ride.
How well have they held up?
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
They have been doing great! Through years of trailering, cross country travel and terrible southern CA roads they continue to do exactly what they were supposed to do. Soften up the ride just enough to keep my wife from complaining.
@oscarfoxman785
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Still driving on em til this day?
@so_cal_super_T
2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarfoxman785 yes sir. Still driving on them.
@oscarfoxman785
2 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Excellent! I had heard of an incident where some guy had the rubber bushing blow out on his Sulastics. So now I'm going around trying to get info on em.
Does this affect ride height?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Foxxtrott1100 I measured before and after and believe it was 1/4 inch higher but you absolutely can’t tell without measuring. Doesn’t change the stance in any noticeable way whatsoever.
@Foxxtrott1100
5 жыл бұрын
@@so_cal_super_T Thanks for the feedback. I've got a 2019 250. I'll call them to see what they say. Another install video the guy said it raised his shit 2" or something.
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
Foxxtrott1100 yeah, I’m not sure how the later model trucks are set up but it certainly didn’t raise mine that much.
Where did you order it from?
@so_cal_super_T
3 жыл бұрын
www.sulastic.com
It seems logical. The Sulastic shackles absorb the stress. But the question is what is the life span of this product? Because I think the rubber inside absorbs most of the stress and it will eventually wear out. This product is quite expensive by the way. A little too overpriced in my opinion. Will we be spending that much to replace it every other year?
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
ashlarxxx all suspension related components wear out. Everything from tires to ball joints and everything in between. So these wearing out is obvious. I have had mine for years with zero sign of deterioration or wear. However I live in Southern California and rarely venture places with harsh cold weather and treated roads. Expense is a matter of opinion. For me they were worth every penny and I will buy them again when need be. They increased the happiness of my wife concerning the ride of the truck therefore it was worth it. I don’t believe they are overpriced at all.
All washers one side 🆒 now u need check if it is alignment the right position
@so_cal_super_T
6 жыл бұрын
Baroy Leyva have you done an install of this nature on this type of vehicle before? All of this work was done to the rear of the vehicle on leaf springs. Both sets of washers were in the same position, mirrored, from one side to another. Therefore there would be no alignment issues.
Im sure the SHOCKS can stay in place
@so_cal_super_T
4 жыл бұрын
If you don't remove the shocks from the axle it makes the process more difficult than it needs to be. It takes less than a minute to loosen both its a quick easy step that makes the whole process faster and easier.
The passenger side is the right side. It doesn't matter which way you're standing
Save your money. These are no good! I got less than 2 years out of them. The centers broke loose. Worthless!
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
I have only had positive experiences with my truck. I have had mine for just a month shy of 2 years and they are still strong, and intact. I live in southern California and my truck is never subjected to salted roads or harsh weather. Perhaps that is why you had a different experience.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
They seemed to ride better than stock for a bit. I installed these on my 06 dodge 3500 single wheel and just checked 20 mins ago and the rubber bushing is shot and separated on the passenger side already. installed aug of 2019. only lasted 2 years and now I have to figure ut if I want to go through warranty to get new ones as I'm in Canada and sulastics is in the us. just a caution for future buyers.
I tried these, they were awful. Rides worse than factory. Very disappointed ☹️
@so_cal_super_T
5 жыл бұрын
T J if you aren’t trolling I find that impossible to believe if they were installed correctly.
@TJ-qz6hr
5 жыл бұрын
Brian Andrews I’m telling you man, honest to God, they were installed per instructions and your video on a 2016 F350 crew cab long bed dually 4x4 all stock with 20,000 miles. They look exactly like the way you installed them. Pulling a gooseneck trailer it jarred my teeth out and the vibrations were terrible. Put stock shackles back on and it’s back to normal. I don’t think these are built for a 1 ton dually like they say they are. I’m just stating the facts. I know they have good reviews but they don’t work on my truck at all.
@superflyguy218
3 жыл бұрын
They seemed to ride better than stock for a bit. I installed these on my 06 dodge 3500 single wheel and just checked 20 mins ago and the rubber bushing is shot and separated on the passenger side already. installed aug of 2019. only lasted 2 years and now I have to figure ut if I want to go through warranty to get new ones as I'm in Canada and sulastics is in the us. just a caution for future buyers.
@TJ-qz6hr
3 жыл бұрын
@@superflyguy218 Yep, they definitely aren’t built for the long haul.