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Subharmonic Singing Basics || Billy Qvarnström

EDIT: I cut some stuff I was misinformed about from the video - big props to Thou Yang for corrections. Lots of great information in his pinned comment on this video. :)
Hey guys! Last time I did a tutorial/lesson type video of any sort was the Polymeter one - some of you liked the format so I've been thinking about what else to talk about. Sooo, here's something even more obscure than that was lmao
I'm not fantastic at it by any means, but I've been using them in my videos for a good while now and I think they are really fun. I hope you try it out! :D
Links to great people on this subject below!
Bass2Yang: / bass2yang
David Larson: / @davidlarson3905
The Oktavism Channel: / @theoktavismchannel
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Microphone: Shure SM7b
Interface: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Reverb in intro: Valhalla Shimmer

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  • @bass2yang
    @bass2yang5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video - that's pretty much it. The sweet spot dial analogy was great. My go-to subharmonic note is usually A1 or Ab1 with Db2 being the higher end and F1 being the lower in terms of consistency. One note about what the vocal fry is doing when combining it with your normal sung note. The octave is realized because the fry interacts with the normal note at precise intervals, affecting the sound wave. So, singing an A2 (110 Hz) with a vocal fry note that interacts with that sung note creates the perceived lower octave. The vocal fry cuts in at around E3 (164.81 Hz); it essentially "distorts" the wave by physically affecting the note at certain intervals. For every 2 cycles, the vocal fry has 3 cycles that interacts with it - some refer to it as the 3:2 ratio - 164.81:110 - you will note that in that ratio, 55 Hz is the base (haha, bass) which is actually A1. Those points of interaction mimic a 55Hz frequency with pretty much all the same overtones as it, causing our brains to assume that it is indeed an A1. If you work with combination tones (organists do this quite often), you will find that playing an A2 and an E3 together creates an A1 so long as it is combined - if it is off by even a few inches, the waves will interact differently and it becomes harder to realize the lower octave. This is also why vibrato with subharmonics is difficult because the pitch is oscillating at a certain rate where as the vocal fry must also keep up with the correct intervals, otherwise it will "pop-up" the octave. Not because you didn't do it correctly, but simply because the fry interacted incorrectly with the normal note. Your vibrato rate must not be manufactured - it needs to be streamlined into your full voice AND your vocal fry (woot, good luck lol). One difference as well when comparing full voice, vocal fry, and subharmonics, is the perfect fifth interval (the E3 that comes through with greater intensity than the other notes). The perfect fifth (E3) is stronger with the subharmonic singing than if you were to sing it in full voice or even vocal fry. The A2 is also stronger. The A1 with subharmonics, however, doesn't show as well on a spectrograph even though it is present. Keep up the good work! - Thou (Pronouncing it "Thou" as in "Thou shalt not" is fine. It is actually pronounced "2" - hence Bass "2" Yang is actually my voice part and my name altogether. Combination tones = combination name. Choir life, right?)

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the kind words, I'm glad you liked the video! I appreciate the info, that was a super interesting read - there's lots to learn about I see! :) Will keep the pronunciation in mind also, sorry for getting that wrong haha.

  • @bass2yang

    @bass2yang

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BillyQvarnstrom no worries. Thou is what my family calls me and "2" just stuck with me throughout all my schooling and friends so either one works. Keep up the good work!

  • @koltenkirk7408

    @koltenkirk7408

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bass2Yang hey quick question. Anytime I do subharmonic I can only transition to a note seven below what I’m singing instead of a full octave. I can’t figure out why and would greatly appreciate any advice.

  • @bass2yang

    @bass2yang

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@koltenkirk7408 It sounds like what is happening is that you may be using too much breath pressure (or maybe even vocal compression, which is essentially pressing/squeezing the vocal folds too hard to make a sound). Keep a neutral larynx and try humming for a bit (closed mouth while maintaining an open vowel such as "ah" or "oh"). Lip trills and tongue rolls will help loosen up the voice. A high larynx will sharp the sound as well. In some cases, it actually feels sharp (if I hear a G2, trying to tune it at a G1 actually makes my Sub-G1 sharp.) I always tune the G2 with the D2 and G3 notes instead of trying to feel or hear a G1. Lower notes tend to sharp or feel sharp the quicker the air moves (like tuning the C2 cello string - playing it slow feels flat and playing it accented/with more speed makes it feel sharp). Remember your air speed/breath pressure is just as important as setting up your vocal mechanism properly to prepare for the note (audition - realize and hear/feel the note, breath, sing). Hope this helps!

  • @koltenkirk7408

    @koltenkirk7408

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bass2Yang I also would like to know if it’s possible to switch notes within the register like with chest voice. I can’t seem to do it as I have to come out of it and then go back in on the other note. I haven’t been able to find anything on that yet I’ve seen people who have sung subharmonics singing many notes without stopping to switch notes. They simply sing the next note as if it was in chest voice.

  • @GuitarGodGefle
    @GuitarGodGefle5 жыл бұрын

    wow, this really works. after just 10 minutes of practice i found myself in the midst of the finals of the mongolian throat singing olympics, thanks bud, couldn't have done it without you and your support

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    poppa bless

  • @RoPanuganti
    @RoPanuganti5 жыл бұрын

    Every viewer is going UHHHHHH right now :)

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    I sure hope they are! :)

  • @floris_fireball6587

    @floris_fireball6587

    5 жыл бұрын

    indeed, i just noticed my lowest note jumped from F2 to E2 :D

  • @theaceofspace6110

    @theaceofspace6110

    4 жыл бұрын

    Every viever's neighbour/flatmate: Shuuut uuup!!!

  • @leticiacan

    @leticiacan

    4 жыл бұрын

    As I was a second ago... My family asked me to stop! 😅😢

  • @ariusronan

    @ariusronan

    3 жыл бұрын

    DAUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH!

  • @anxietyprimev6983
    @anxietyprimev69834 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently the lowest dude in my high school choir class, but despite the decent clout I already get for it, I think i'm gonna start trying this stuff out so I can _really_ kick ass at low notes. I'll keep you guys posted if I can. Wish me luck.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Best of luck man!

  • @jwds6128

    @jwds6128

    4 жыл бұрын

    aye good luck bro

  • @casparbosch5615

    @casparbosch5615

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe take a look at beatboxers. They do stuff like this a lot.

  • @ErynIstar

    @ErynIstar

    4 жыл бұрын

    Any progress ? I have the curious

  • @jackorion7157

    @jackorion7157

    4 жыл бұрын

    What's your range?

  • @firepool-lightclan7849
    @firepool-lightclan78495 жыл бұрын

    This is deep

  • @josephtoto80

    @josephtoto80

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, this is dip, I bringed some fries.

  • @Cj_Plays_Everything

    @Cj_Plays_Everything

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josephtoto80 I brought some more fries

  • @1.1797
    @1.17974 жыл бұрын

    It usually takes dinner and a movie before I find the sweet spot

  • @ddude1212
    @ddude12123 жыл бұрын

    I did it for a SPLIT SECOND and I yelled “F*CK YEAH.” Also, you’re the first one to teach this who has my exact same vocal range. Normally everyone who teaches this are big daddy basses, which makes it hard for me to apply.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear you're making progress! I know that feel, I sat through many big bass boys trying to learn it as well!

  • @longebane

    @longebane

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here regarding the range

  • @jojo1234a
    @jojo1234a4 жыл бұрын

    I bloody did it, THANK YOU! I tried for so many years but couldn’t understand instructions well enough. I found the sweet spot right away and kept it there. Super cool thank you thank you! Super cool as a female also.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Super cool to hear it worked out, thank you for the kind words!!

  • @jandunn169

    @jandunn169

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup Im feel too and determined to do it...

  • @jojo1234a

    @jojo1234a

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jandunn169 yaaay you will get it, I feel super confident you can. I’ve tried so many videos and many years, and this was the video. I’m a professional singer and I still couldn’t get it

  • @jojo1234a

    @jojo1234a

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BillyQvarnstrom I just came back for a refresher and I’m still super stoked that you helped me out of countless videos and many years, thank you yay!

  • @chaseprovost389
    @chaseprovost3895 жыл бұрын

    I've been working for weeks trying to figure out what the low note was and where it came from and what it was supposed to feel like, etc. I started with David Larson's tutorials and the such, and I found yours just yesterday. I can do it now. You really simplified this and gave a very clear description of what should happen when trying to find the register. Thanks man

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is super cool to hear, I'm very glad I was able to help! Thanks for the kind words and for watching!

  • @kwpp7
    @kwpp74 жыл бұрын

    It's cool that you don't have to have a particularly deep speaking voice to use this technique.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @rhythmythicles
    @rhythmythicles4 жыл бұрын

    My kids have been fascinated and amused by Tuvan throat singing since they were very little. I discovered Kongar-ol Ondar as a college music student. Your tutorial is really easy to follow and useful. Thanks for sharing your interest in such a cool subject!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the kind words!

  • @markpostema1867
    @markpostema18675 жыл бұрын

    This is the only video that really simply puts it out there. Thank you!

  • @creeperguard8240
    @creeperguard82402 жыл бұрын

    This is definitely the best sub harmonic tutorial out there, you explained it perfectly, and now I understand subharmonics and vocal fry!

  • @slickslayer6887
    @slickslayer68874 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Billy. You have one of the most helpful throat singing videos available.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear that, thank you for watching!

  • @joelmcgee2280
    @joelmcgee22803 жыл бұрын

    I taught myself to throat sing by watching KZread videos and driving a ton! The acoustics in a car are great for it! It's truly about throat constriction and getting use to the feeling of the vibration and constriction. At first you'll cough and it will more than likely hurt, but with time it will feel normal and then!!!! Someday you'll be able to carry a tune for several seconds and eventually be able to throat sing for extended periods of time like myself! I've been practicing for perhaps 15 months or so, it's almost second nature for me now. My kids love it and best of all! A goose was chasing me once (if you know geese they're some scary MF's!) And I throat sang and it backed off! Defense at its best!

  • @jandunn169

    @jandunn169

    2 жыл бұрын

    I actually did it standing in the ocean yesterday... perhaps water helps somehow. I am getting more flack being an older "girl" doing this...

  • @samthisam570

    @samthisam570

    Жыл бұрын

    You're probably using kargyraa (Tuvan throat singing). Vocal fry subharmonics are quieter, more gentle, and less likely to damage the voice. Not as powerful, usually, but a little easier on the ears and throat, employing pure vocal fry instead of constricting the larynx. Vocal fry should have a more "flowy" phonation but should be less overtone-rich.

  • @allosauruski
    @allosauruski4 жыл бұрын

    Haaaa finally ! Thank you for the physical explanation ! I am a woman so any other video explaining to imitate a sheep, or to cough wasn’t working for me. Your explanation of the lower octave made me think about using a vocal spectrometer app’ so I could see when the lower octave note appeared on my screen and understand what I really needed to do with my voice. It also helped me to know which note to sing because I can’t go as low as men. It’s working! Yeaaah. Thank you.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Super awesome to hear I could help!!

  • @snatcher6871
    @snatcher68712 жыл бұрын

    ive watched so many tutorials but this is the only one that has actually helped me to understand how to do it, and to do it

  • @Hashslingingslasher-
    @Hashslingingslasher-4 жыл бұрын

    you explained that extremely well, got it on the first try, thanks mate

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome to hear that, and thanks for watching!

  • @jimibailey2703
    @jimibailey27034 жыл бұрын

    Got it down in about 3 minutes thanks man!! Been trying for months and this video got me going basically instantly!!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is totally awesome to hear dude, good job!!

  • @Downhillrider888
    @Downhillrider8883 жыл бұрын

    Dude! Thanks! I've look at many video about this and it never worked before. And now I got it for the first time.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome to hear that, and thanks for watching!

  • @crashcitygames1592
    @crashcitygames15923 жыл бұрын

    I have trying to figure this out for months. It finally clicked for me! Thank you for the information!!!!

  • @obeyourfatheryah
    @obeyourfatheryah5 жыл бұрын

    I've looked around soooooo much for kargyraa material over the past month or so. finally found this video! this is the first day I've produced the kargyraa tone. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear I could help, thank you for watching!

  • @Nafaniah
    @Nafaniah3 жыл бұрын

    I've been trying to learn this for several years already and you're the first youtuber who makes sense! Untill now I always 'growled' in my throat which makes me cough allot... to those out there : it's NOT 🚫 the right technique if you have to cough! Your explanation about 'morning-voice' was so clear, it took me 30min to get the hang of... Now I can practice safely and enjoy the deep nature sound I make with my own voice (so cool btw) Thanks for this video!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome to hear you're getting the hang of it, and glad I could help!

  • @faselblaDer3te
    @faselblaDer3te Жыл бұрын

    This is actually the best tutorial I've found on KZread on this sopic. Cheers!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that, thanks for watching!

  • @wafflesarentasgudaspancake9714
    @wafflesarentasgudaspancake97143 жыл бұрын

    Bro this worked first try but then i lost it for awhile your the best person that I've found that explains it so well! Dang bro thank you so much!!! And im female 😍✨

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome to hear! :)

  • @vigolevigo7625
    @vigolevigo76253 жыл бұрын

    I love the princess mononoke theme in the background. Come to think of it, a version of that theme added with throat singer would be mental !

  • @gabocarina96
    @gabocarina965 жыл бұрын

    I love those tutorials, man! :D

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks dude, great to hear that! :D

  • @ayoutubechannul
    @ayoutubechannul4 жыл бұрын

    I love this thank you, since I've been sick I've been getting decent and feeling the low vocal fry and finding that sweet spot! Haha

  • @Ypluop
    @Ypluop5 жыл бұрын

    That's so cool ! I'll (try to) learn it !

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear that, I wish you the best of luck!~

  • @jandunn169
    @jandunn1692 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your clear explanation...Easiest thing for me is to try to imitate the first note you sang on here in the beginning...

  • @YerGoodBuddyKeith
    @YerGoodBuddyKeith3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a complete amateur outside of church choir as a young boy. Thank you for making it painfully clear on how to find that sweet spot. I've watched a few videos and they kind of run over that like a afterthought. It's like your dad trying to teach you to throw a football but then he shows you painfully clear how to throw spiral in order to throw the ball accurately. Thanks man. Now I just have to keep hammering on that part of my voice and play around. See what I can do.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I was able to help, thank you for watching!

  • @domsch1302
    @domsch13023 жыл бұрын

    I know it's two and a half years old, but here we are after a long youtube rabbit hole. Coming from a Metal Background the fry is a lot more natural to me anyways, but i didn't think i could do it cleanly. Happy to report A1 to F#1 worked pretty much instantly. This was so well explained. Thank you very much! Now gotta work a bit on pitch stability and getting a bit more volume out of it

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, awesome to hear that - glad I could help, and thanks for watching!

  • @suemcneil7234
    @suemcneil7234 Жыл бұрын

    Omg…I did how you said..and I can actually do it..but obviously need much practice now..thank you, I love it, and you are amazing!🥰

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    Жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear I could help, and thank you so much! :)

  • @lexusant64
    @lexusant64 Жыл бұрын

    Unbelievable, got it straight away!!! Excellent tutorial

  • @Some-Pasty-Scandinavian-Pagan
    @Some-Pasty-Scandinavian-Pagan4 жыл бұрын

    This is the single most informative and detailed tutorial for how to go subhamonic, ive seen so far!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear that!

  • @BeyondxDescription
    @BeyondxDescription3 жыл бұрын

    You’re so soft spoken and your voice is very soothing. Time to check out your shit

  • @Skyverb
    @Skyverb3 жыл бұрын

    This was actually super helpful in the explanation/breakdown. Gonna try training to do this.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear that, best of luck!

  • @reagindoerindo4311
    @reagindoerindo43112 жыл бұрын

    I always thought you needed to have an inhuman deep voice to make those basses. But now i'm really excited to try it myself. I'm practicing for about 10 days, 20 or 30 minutes a day. I can see progress. I cand find 2 or 3 tones, but still not so clean and its difficult to change tones while making it. It didn't hurt, but some times the harmonics stops working, disappear and i can not find it anymore until I rest, and i can just fry. Dificult, but i'm loving it. I feel like in some months i'll be making it!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome to hear, best of luck with your progress!

  • @HighZ
    @HighZ2 жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial. Not a vocalist by any means but was able to find the "sweet spot" thanks to your blend knob analogy!

  • @thepurpletrace
    @thepurpletrace3 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone? TBH I have just tried this for the first minutes ever, both overtone and subharmonic, and once getting the grasp on where in the throat this is actually happening I just realized I have been using only a third of my register my entire life. And yes, girl here, and both works for me.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    VERY cool to hear!

  • @jasonsison6044
    @jasonsison60444 жыл бұрын

    OMG 😂 THANKS FOR THIS MAN! Before I can hit a good F2/F#2 now I can go down around F1. I am blown rn 😂

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome to hear it helped! :D

  • @riverdowdy9505
    @riverdowdy95052 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video! It was very helpful!

  • @tonibeba8911
    @tonibeba89114 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. I started practising throatsinging over a year ago. Your video helped me a lot learning kargyraa. I now can do kargyraa, khoomei and sygyt. Im also learning Chylandyk and borbanagdyr.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive! Glad I was able to help!

  • @tonibeba8911

    @tonibeba8911

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BillyQvarnstrom :D

  • @StevenDiLeo
    @StevenDiLeo4 жыл бұрын

    awesome and clear explanation, thank you for making this. I'm going to practice this now :)

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear I could help, best of luck! :)

  • @swannjiejiechow3495
    @swannjiejiechow34953 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this video, I will try it. :)

  • @novafusionzero8730
    @novafusionzero87304 жыл бұрын

    That was well explained i was able to figure out what it means and found it really easy to do

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Super cool to hear that, glad you figured it out!!

  • @hjrc746
    @hjrc7464 жыл бұрын

    GREAT tips... so helpful. Thanks.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that, thank you for watching!

  • @kakazet
    @kakazet3 жыл бұрын

    The background music is so pleasant to listen to.

  • @user-bx8sj6qm3w
    @user-bx8sj6qm3w3 жыл бұрын

    This is a very interesting subject. As you can tell from my username, I'm a contralto so I sing fairly low (D3) but I want to go lower because there are sopranos out there who can reach a C3 while I can't and it hurts my pride I guess. So I've been researching how to sing low for a while now and discovered the subharmonic registr thing (though I still don't know what does subharmonic mean lol) I can use vocal fry to reach an A0 and I feel so proud of myself, next step is to actually sing it lol. And use vocal fry with other notes other than in jazz singing. Thanks for this video, it was very informative!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help, hope you get it down!

  • @marcelk6354
    @marcelk63544 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video, thank you

  • @maikschafers8839
    @maikschafers88393 жыл бұрын

    Funny. This is actually the best explanation I've seen on KZread until now. I found how to do this by accident. Since I already have a very deep voice I think my subharmonic is somewhere in the depths of hell 😂 I've tried using a pitch meter but it shows me a D1 I feel like thats not that accurate since I could potentially go even lower.

  • @malcolmbrewer
    @malcolmbrewer3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting to this bass singer

  • @veloopity
    @veloopity3 жыл бұрын

    thank you, great and inspiring!

  • @ronb7095
    @ronb70954 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Really well explained.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @billrogers5219
    @billrogers52195 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Very clear. I learned this from the David Larsen videos. I have an alternate explanation for what's happening, though. If you take a tuning fork and touch a piece of paper with it the paper will make the same pitch as the tuning fork. But if you carefully pull the paper just slightly farther away, it will bounce, so that it hits the fork only on every other vibration and makes an octave subharmonic. I think when you gently add fry and find the sweet spot what you are doing is adjusting the adduction of the cords just right so that they bounce like the paper on the tuning fork and only come fully together every other vibration. I think that's why when you hit the sweet spot the lower octave magically appears like some alien living in your chest. I don't think you need to invoke the false cords. My main problem is how to master the transition from normal register to subharmonic since going down a step from regular to subharmonic actually feels like going up a seventh and adding fry.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, glad to hear that! That's certainly some interesting speculation that I have not heard about before - that might very well be how it works, I'm certainly no expert on the subject.

  • @pelicanantics9812
    @pelicanantics98125 жыл бұрын

    I like how passionate you are about subharmonic singing. You should learn kargyraa and use it in your channel. It's a different type of subharmonics but it works really well with the types of drones you are trying to go after. It also opens up an incredibly large world of vocal styles. Just like strohbass there isn't much information on it, plus a lot of it is only partially right or just wrong. Alash ensemble has the best video on KZread for beginning. On a side note I also learned from bass2yang how to do this haha

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words! I tried to learn Kargyraa around the same time I started messing with subharmonics actually, some attempts of that can be heard in my cover of "Sun's Song" - I found it difficult to do without making my throat sore within a few minutes though so I opted for the lighter feel of subharmonics for most musical contexts after that. I should probably try to pick it back up and see if I can find a less straining way to do it though, the sound of it is super cool!

  • @pelicanantics9812

    @pelicanantics9812

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BillyQvarnstrom yeah it takes a bit for your throat to get used to it. It took me like 2 or 3 weeks to be able to do it without it getting sore.

  • @user-mz6sh4uo7u
    @user-mz6sh4uo7u10 ай бұрын

    thank you billy

  • @jameswhitacre2742
    @jameswhitacre27424 жыл бұрын

    Oh man I loooove the princess monoke soundtrack during the vid!

  • @wodandewael3613
    @wodandewael36132 жыл бұрын

    I love how you compare with the beginning of practising it cause that woud really helped me in the beginning of trying it. Btw pretty damn good video. Unlucky i only found it in 2021.... Keep on going

  • @RockmeHellsing
    @RockmeHellsing3 жыл бұрын

    i searched for years for a video like that, i sing like i was 10 and i always wanted to learn that for 18 years now

  • @marethyu31
    @marethyu314 жыл бұрын

    I'm used of using false chords for growling. I enter the subharmonic for a split second and habitually switch to a growl.

  • @Abrasuculo

    @Abrasuculo

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's happening to me rn

  • @mamadjafar792
    @mamadjafar792 Жыл бұрын

    Best tutorial so far

  • @alexcarter8807
    @alexcarter8807 Жыл бұрын

    This is like pedal tones on the trumpet/cornet. It's fun to turn heads by making a sound like a tube on a little cornet.

  • @georgehammond4511
    @georgehammond45114 жыл бұрын

    this video alone let me be able to throat sing ty so much

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear that!!

  • @brodofraggins
    @brodofraggins4 жыл бұрын

    My lowest chest voice note on a good day is an E1, but most days I can hit a G1. I definitely want to learn techniques to improve that, in college I was barely able to hit a Bb1 and over time with practice I have gotten to where I am now. I am interested in learning throat singing techniques and growl techniques to see how low I can go.

  • @tylermustardloooser386
    @tylermustardloooser3864 жыл бұрын

    this is awesome

  • @StevenMorris
    @StevenMorris5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tutorial~! With synthesizers, it’s always helpful to apply a bit of a low pass filter to smooth out what sound like clicks when you start dealing with notes that low. I think the same can be done with how we shape our vowels with these low notes. By the way, is there any value to being able to smoothly transition from a low note to a subharmonic one? For me, it doesn’t happen smoothly... it just jumps (kind of like what happens with inexperienced singers going into their head/mix voice from their chest voice)

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad you appreciated it!~ That's very interesting, I'm very inexperienced when it comes to how synths work but yeah I'm sure similar effects can be achieved with our voices too. And I have no idea, actually - mine jumps pretty abruptly as well, I have not heard anyone transition smoothly but I'm sure it could be done and utilized in music!

  • @bass2yang

    @bass2yang

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is a lot of value and yes, it doesn't happen smoothly. You can smooth out the rough transitions by practicing jumping intervals of 7ths, octaves, and 9ths. I try to do this in some of my videos. Vowels are important - try your best not to change them so much and, like with head/mix, choose a neutral vowel to keep the larynx from doing anything funny. In a choir, it is less noticeable. In a solo piece, you need to be prepared. Even my best attempt at it, there are still transition issues - they are minimized of course. Here is a video demonstration the quick changes, use of vibrato in subharmonic, and preparing for an abrupt change (singing a B Major scale descending from B2 to B1): kzread.info/dash/bejne/qnWEm9lwotu5m6g.html Octave jumps are easy because you just don't move. The scale at the end is technically B2 - A#2 - G#2 - F#2 - E2 - D#2 - C#3(subharmonic C#2) - B2 (subharmonic B2). The transition happens after D#2 which essentially makes it a minor 7th jump up back to C#3 and then immediately applying the vocal fry (dial it in quickly and accurately without changing the vowel), and then descend from there. It's fun, but dangerous. :D - Thou

  • @bass2yang

    @bass2yang

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also, here is a far mic placement so you can hear the difference and the transitions if you are interested: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ95uKtxZNvbnpc.html Subharmonics (really, anything voice) is so interesting to me so I am quite passionate about it. Good luck!

  • @haricottibo7324
    @haricottibo73244 жыл бұрын

    Dude thanks idk how but I never did this and i litterally learned it in 5 minutes

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Super cool to hear, thanks for watching!

  • @krikionis8330
    @krikionis83303 жыл бұрын

    Interesting knowledge.

  • @cojo1801
    @cojo18014 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this info, it basically cracked the whole throat singing thing wide.opwn for me. I could make weird noises before this but now I understand so much more, and using your technique I'm able to replicate your results (needs practice haha) thanks again ! Btw it's been 1 year how has your skill with this technique come along?

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very cool to hear you were able to get it down!! Personally I wouldn't say I've improved much if at all to be honest - I've been really busy and haven't really had any discipline for practicing. I hope to change that and utilize subharmonic singing in some music projects in the future so I have an excuse to do it more :)

  • @2miligrams
    @2miligrams2 жыл бұрын

    That intro is perfect

  • @yona9798
    @yona97983 жыл бұрын

    OMFG ANOTHER PRINCESS MONONOKE FAN!!!! I'm sorry, I'm just way too happy right now lol

  • @missk1942
    @missk19424 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @superbadmofo1
    @superbadmofo1 Жыл бұрын

    That Intro was frekin BAD ASS man..

  • @jacquavioustyronne2692
    @jacquavioustyronne26924 жыл бұрын

    geoff castellucci can hit an e1 with this technique

  • @allistercrow2405

    @allistercrow2405

    4 жыл бұрын

    tomi p can hit a b0 with subharmonics 0.0

  • @vladlu6362

    @vladlu6362

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@allistercrow2405 He doesn't use subharmonics to hit the B0. He uses inhale singing.

  • @vzndonated5thousanddollars135

    @vzndonated5thousanddollars135

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vladlu6362 he uses growl

  • @vladlu6362

    @vladlu6362

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vzndonated5thousanddollars135 Tomi p confirmed it on a video about inhale singing on David with the long hair channel. Just search "Inhale singing David" and you will see Tomi P writing this on his comment.

  • @1AmGroot

    @1AmGroot

    4 жыл бұрын

    Quick note: Geoff Castellucci can actually hit an E1 in chest! Tim Foust hit an A0 with growl.

  • @jamesburke9651
    @jamesburke96512 жыл бұрын

    Nailed it, the undertones. took 2 seconds. The higher overtone one has me on practice mode tho.

  • @ShiratoriIsOffline
    @ShiratoriIsOffline4 жыл бұрын

    This helped ALOT thanks

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help, thanks for watching!

  • @samblanton967
    @samblanton9675 жыл бұрын

    i can get the low raspy sound but it doesn't really sound like a note. how do you refine it to be a clearer note

  • @drakebrock6820

    @drakebrock6820

    5 жыл бұрын

    sam Blanton you’re probably singing a vocal fry. Try singing an octave higher than you want to and slip into a fry, BUT MAINTAIN THE SAME PITCH. that’s something a lot of people don’t get. It’ll take practice, so don’t be discouraged

  • @mildmanneredmercifulmouse1839

    @mildmanneredmercifulmouse1839

    5 жыл бұрын

    A little bit of practice each day, 15 to 20 minutes each day for the first few weeks and then can start to practice for 30 minutes and after a couple months you might be able to practice longer for about an hour or so. If you don't build up gradually, you can damage / injure your throat. Think of it like any sort of exercise where you need to adapt your body and nervous system in a new way. It's better to do small amounts each day rather than one or two large amounts now and then.

  • @clarine3057

    @clarine3057

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@drakebrock6820 I can do the subharmonic action like I can sing a note and also vibrate the folds to go the octave down, but is there a way to only have the low sound coming out?

  • @drakebrock6820

    @drakebrock6820

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@clarine3057 you just gotta shape your vowel right. Try an open "oh" and work from there. If need be, I'll record a video explaining that part and upload it

  • @lordvoldemort5725

    @lordvoldemort5725

    4 жыл бұрын

    You’re singing vocal fry. You need to sing in sub-harmonics. Sing an octave above the bass note you want to sing, relax your voice, and you hit that note. For example. When I first started, which is today, I started with an A2. Relax your voice, and you‘ll begin to sing an octave lower which is an A1. The key to holding that note, is to just sing that starter note ALL THE WAY THROUGH, an A2 in this case. Singing and A2 will keep that A1 going. I probably didn’t make sense to you, but other videos tell you exactly what to do. It’s really simple, but is hard to control.

  • @TriciawiththeTRUTH
    @TriciawiththeTRUTH3 жыл бұрын

    This is the same process I discovered naturally! Thank you for validating me 😁😅 Any tips on how to not hurt your throat or vocal chords? I think I would be able to tell if it started to hurt, but any suggestions would be helpful. I'm just not doing too much in one day just in case, and using honey and drinking lots of water. Do you find that some days you're just not able to do it too? Maybe it's just cuz it's my 3rd day. Anyways, very exciting!!! Thanks for making this video!

  • @igrindall
    @igrindall4 жыл бұрын

    By my understanding, anyone can learn the sub-harmonic register; it's all about learning to access and co-ordinate the throat and upper chest and back muscles into an open and stable configuration that allows the vestibular folds to vibrate. The capability is inherent in the geometry of human anatomy, so to speak. It's kind of amazing how simple it is, once you actually feel it in your own body, eh? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestibular_fold

  • @jupiterthree5228
    @jupiterthree52284 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @randobando
    @randobando2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never been able to sing that well, but I got this pretty quickly thanks to you! Any suggestions other than repetition for longevity? It’s been a few days but I find myself running out of breath sometimes. Thanks again!

  • @delanagracejohnson6282
    @delanagracejohnson62823 жыл бұрын

    I reminds me of how I do my hummer whistle . But it’s a high pitch whistle with a low hum . Blended

  • @kovarilaszlo3146
    @kovarilaszlo31465 жыл бұрын

    I've been practicing this for quite some years now, and I'm still not sure about how it works. I can sing with this technique pretty well in A1-Db2 range. False chords don't work here though, that is for another thing. Mongolians and some other people use the false chords in combination with normal ones, but that is different. Here you have the process described by Thou Yang here in the comment section. I'm not sure about Myakothin though, he has such a harsh, loud technique... Not sure if he uses this subharmonic register.

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was definitely wrong about the false chords being utilized, I was probably either misinformed from somewhere or I simply mixed it up with monglian styles, Kargyraa and the like - I pinned Thou's comment so that hopefully people can find some corrections there. And yes, Myakotin is certainly a mystery - I believe I read some inside information about his singing in a comment section over on the Oktavism channel claiming he uses a technique called Strohbass for his upper low range and subharmonic register for the very lowest parts, but it certainly is a lot more powerful and loud sounding than I could ever imagine being able to sing with subharmonics myself.

  • @kovarilaszlo3146

    @kovarilaszlo3146

    5 жыл бұрын

    I find that I have two separate registers in my subharmonic singing: i can use the upper one down to about A1, and then I can't get a G out, but I can sometimes sing a pretty nice F1 or F#1, but it feels like a slightly different technique, and I can't use it above on a G, but it sounds a hell lot like myakotin's sound. It is strong and harsh and loud.

  • @griffinbowers2643

    @griffinbowers2643

    5 жыл бұрын

    BillyTheBard11th Myatokin does this in chest voice, not a subharmonic register.

  • @Ketieaux
    @Ketieaux3 жыл бұрын

    Legend of Ashitaka in the back :'D

  • @Kratosz693
    @Kratosz6932 ай бұрын

    It works 🎉🎉 thanks bro

  • @azdcxdf
    @azdcxdf3 жыл бұрын

    Watched some Mongolian vids earlier and I couldn't get it from them. Your advise works for me. Thanks!

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very glad to hear that, thanks for watching!

  • @s.vidhyardhsingh3881
    @s.vidhyardhsingh38812 жыл бұрын

    Yeah this technique is like treasure now I can hit F#1 (on a good morning of course, but still I am so awesomely glad)

  • @emmettnelson7260
    @emmettnelson72602 жыл бұрын

    Just starting to try this and I found it is much easier with higher notes. I can just get it on the higher notes but not yet on the lower ones.

  • @lomebbrr
    @lomebbrr4 жыл бұрын

    hi! thank you a so much ! you helped me a lot ;)

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear I could help! :)

  • @Lxthargy
    @Lxthargy3 жыл бұрын

    It's a bit difficult but I'm getting the hang of it!

  • @dutchvanderlinde7460
    @dutchvanderlinde74604 жыл бұрын

    Question, I have ventricular fold phonation. Does that help?

  • @Flatlegs
    @Flatlegs4 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou for the help 😌👌💝🥓

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help, thanks for watching! :)

  • @brysin3544
    @brysin35443 жыл бұрын

    I can do it, but I can't seem to apply it to my vocals like I see the bass from voiceplay able to. I keep practicing in Hope's but it always sounds worse than if I were to force the low note

  • @MichaEShu
    @MichaEShu5 жыл бұрын

    I call this fry-singing (vocal-fry + voice). It's like light version of Throat singing (Kargyraa: Mongolian, Tuvan, Tibetan...)

  • @shadow15kryans23

    @shadow15kryans23

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ye it is lighter which makes it lower :D

  • @MoRo1333
    @MoRo13333 жыл бұрын

    my neighbors must be confused right now.

  • @rixterz11
    @rixterz114 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea that simply producing a different sound can turn it an octave lower just like that

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same! It's weird how it works haha

  • @J0a0Francisc0
    @J0a0Francisc04 жыл бұрын

    I think I kinda can do it, but there are some notes that I can't project at all. Lower notes are harder, I guess this makes sense, but it's frustrating to not hear them as well.

  • @kelseybolfing
    @kelseybolfing3 жыл бұрын

    Omg I got so low! Thank you!

  • @12BPorter
    @12BPorter5 жыл бұрын

    Sweet spot

  • @BillyQvarnstrom

    @BillyQvarnstrom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sweet spot

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