Honest and not dealer propaganda. Well done.

@kevintoth5365

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the sun is coming out it's a beautiful day. :)

Insurance is less expensive for the outback since it’s considered a station wagon while the Forester is a SUV. Something to think about....

@jeffghant4760

3 жыл бұрын

That's literally the biggest concern of mine and I want the Forester. Thanks for the bad news.

@thecabin3995

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know. I didn’t think about that

@americanhornet4679

3 жыл бұрын

Actually depends on ‘safety features’ regarding ‘your insurance’. I’m in Northeast, we saved ‘same amount’ on Outback, Forester. I own New Forester trim level ‘Limited’, which has ‘more safety features’. So look into the upper trims (Limited, Touring) check with your insurance before purchase.

@McFartsnatcher

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely... I live in the PNW and I got insurance quotes for both the Forester and the Outback (same year each), and the Outback was by far the cheaper insurance rate. I was able to get my newer model Outback fully covered through State Farm for $78 a month. Something to definitely think about... Like the above comment, this may also be different in some areas.

@jeffghant4760

3 жыл бұрын

@@McFartsnatcher I have a new 2021 forester and a 2003 camry. My combined 6month premium is less than $500 in nj. Do you pay monthly or every 6mos? I also set a high deductible.

As a past owner of a 2003 Forester and (along with my daughter) a current owner of a 2008 Outback, 2015 Forester, and 2017 Forester, we think the Forester is a little more efficient in terms of cargo space and utilization.

Been selling Subies for over 6 years. This video represents my life eerily accurately. Thanks.

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Let me know if you can identify with the intro of this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIxhsLKvYdeug8o.html

I have a 2015 Forester Touring, with all the bells and whistles. I could not be happier.

@333AppalachiaEnergetics

3 жыл бұрын

Have the same & love it.

I just got my 2020 Forester 2020 touring the other day I absolutely love it. I am obsessed.

This is about the best comparisons I've seen.

Currently driving a Manual trans. Forester. A/T tires and roof basket. Lol. I love it !

Forester all day. I've driven both cars. Even with the turbo in the Outback XT ... I still choose the Forester. The forester feels more spacious and I love the interface of the dashboard better. The full touch screen interface in the outback is invasive IMO and also the roof feels too close to my head so I get a sense of claustrophobia. The Forester has a proper amount of space that feels nice and better vision. Wish they would have put the turbo in the Forester rather then the Outback.

@ehgiteb9116

2 жыл бұрын

I found 2019 a Forester XT from 2017 brandnew, was a showcar in an other country. For me the perfect mix of sleeping space, cargo room and fun of power. Just love it. 😁

I think there was an obvious difference in the first shot of the cars. I was interested in the Outback, and compared the Forester, but was leaning to the Outback. Took a test drive, and was ready, but I decided to test drive the Forester just to make sure. The windows are much bigger. Sightlines are much better in the forester. Also the ease of getting in, for an older man like me, the Forester was a better choice. If I liked the low cars I might think different. Both are great cars, but I agree that the Forester matches me better.

@adso5555555

2 жыл бұрын

Glad somebody else has mentioned the Sightlines! I have been road-testing all the 2021 SUV's, and none of them have the vision of a Forester... i.e. parking, blind-spots, seeing objects behind you.. I wonder if modern drivers are watching the camera instead of turning their head? You cant do both, so I'm not sure what the future is exactly. I will say my 2011 Forester is substantially better again than the 2021 model, the cars are longer/wider and slightly higher door frames, but its still much better than its SUV competitors.

Rear seat vents are important, hope Outback adds them in soon. Ventilated seats are nice, would be a great option on Forester

I drove a loaner forester and it has a nice suspension really enjoyed the ride

Thank you for an amazing presentation! Concise, info packed & extremely helpful. Full of thought evoking considerations & comparisons. Not to mention an authoritative yet friendly voice. U knocked this one out of the park! Problem solved, decision made! Thx again!

Well done! I just purchased a forester and not one sales person was able to explain what you spoke about in the video.

Tremendous job!!!! I wanted to know the diffs too and u explained options and packages very well!!!!

When we lived in San Diego, I sold cars for about 4 years (1985-1989), and based on my experience, you sir, are truly an excellent car salesman! I mean that sincerely. I'm seriously considering a Forester for my next car, if I ever wear out my Trailblazer or my wife's Ranier.

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words and for watching my video!

We have a 2014 Subaru Forester in black. We really like it!!!

2020 outback touring xt here. so in love.

thank you. you have helped me choose the Forester after going back and forth for days.

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

I loved your video on the Outback - Forester comparison. I went from a 2014 Base Model Forester, that I bought in 2017 with only 17,500 miles, sold it with 87,500, and loved it. I agree, it seems sportier to me, as well and actually, I feel better connected to the road than I have felt in a long time. I went from a 2004 Audi A6 to the Forester and always wondered if the Outback was a better fit. I arrived at your same conclusion and just purchased a 2018 Premium Forester with 17,500 miles. I appreciate the upgrades, i.e. Adjustable Rear View Mirror, heated Side Mirrors, and WOW at the Back-up Camera. Thank you for the thoughtful video. John

Great info. Right to the point, no babble. thank you

Great video. I previously drove a 2011 Outback and now have a 2019 Forester Premium. I agree with all your points on driving impressions and agility. As this is a comfort car I am most likely going back to Outback when my lease is up but I would go Forester again if they offered a hybrid version and the Outback didn’t. I also love the panoramic moonroof in the Forester and would love to see it in Outback even if it was fixed and didn’t open (like a Tesla one). Thanks for your videos!

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

My pleasure thank you so much for watching!

@kevtop351

2 жыл бұрын

Forester is the best.

If you are a serious outdoors person (hiking/climbing/camping, etc.) there is a critical difference you did not mention: the distance between the back of the front seats (slid all the way forward and tilted all the way toward the dash) and the inside of the tailgate. This determines how useful it is to sleep in (rear seats folded down, of course). Who would sleep in their Subaru? ME! If you haven't resorted to sleeping in your car you probably don't do a lot of camping (50 mph wind and hail, anyone?). Take it from me, the Outback makes a far better shelter when things get really nasty.

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Good point I did forget to mention that, and I assure you that you are not the only Subaru owner who sleeps in their car during outdoor excursions.

@williamseay7983

4 жыл бұрын

So can you sleep well In it ?

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Well I've never tried, I'm not much of a camper, but I'm 6'5" so its a little short for me. If you want to see the full cargo measurements of the 2020 Outback you can watch this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4iW3Micf8e5hco.html

@winstonsmith1032

4 жыл бұрын

william seay I can, but I'm only 5'9". That being said, trying to set up a tent in 40 mph wind or trying to sleep on the ground when the temp. is 15 degrees F is probably worse than bending yourself a little bit in the relative comfort of the Sube. Besides, if you have climbed a 3,000 foot peak that day you're likely to be able to sleep anywhere!

@troutstalker4744

4 жыл бұрын

You are definitely not the only one. My camp buddies always make fun of me when I sleep in my 2003 legacy gt wagon while camping. Lol..luv it. I now own a 2020 onyx xt.

Super informative. Thanks for posting!

I owned a 17 Outback Limited 6cyl; one of my favorite cars I’ve owned. I loved the power! I’m 6’3” and 70 years old. Every time I sat in a new Forester, I realized how much easier it was for me to get in and out of (height and age). Also great visibility. I now have a 2020 Forester Touring, which was a good choice for me. They are both great cars; can’t go wrong with either.

@vanvuite7307

2 жыл бұрын

Due to accident I had to replace my Forester with CX-7, even after 3 months of having it, I still bump my head on my door, I missed my Forester, and now I am planning to buy it.

@tagheuer001

2 жыл бұрын

I'm six two and never thought of that. Great point!

Really helpful information!

Thank you! Finally someone did a proper and clear explanation! If I lived in US I would probably buy a car from you.

Never knew this before, thanks for the explanation 👍.

“ I don’t have the key, that’s why *HA* “ Made my depressed quarantine day. ♥️💪

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service! We all need little things to lift our spirits right now

Excellent review. Great job.

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Outback is simply the perfect.

Always liked your videos! I ‘learned more’ about ‘tech buttons’ a year ago in Forester, thanks to you. Actually Forester is a small SUV, my auto insurance dropped when I purchased ‘limited’ trim . Previously owned almost 17years...Forester (bought New). Although now small SUV Forester (check your New Car auto sticker readout on window) is labeled as a ‘truck’. Love This Forester!

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching William!

Outback is the REAL DEAL...

I moved to Texas with a stunning Audi A6 T. First month bad rain storm got totaled. I did not want a truck as many of my new friends suggested. Coming from MA Foresters and Outbacks are every where. So gave the Forester a shot. Found a mint Forester Touring in mint certified condition. Gave it a shot. The power is down compared to my Audi and previous Lexus RX350. But I am very pleased with it. The interior is so bright you can see everything. Love the pano and it’s about the right size. I am slowly adjusting to less power but it’s plenty for what it’s intended. I hope in the future they drop the 2.4 T into the forester. I now understand why so many enjoy their Subaru’s I truly enjoy mine.

Thanks, useful information delivered in an excellent manner.

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

Great comparison video!

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

The Outback is very comfortable and more room for rear passengers. I would buy another Outback in a heartbeat. Thanx for your comparison between the Forester & Outback

We love our Forester it has all the bells and whistles, and I love how much higher the roof is, also the train is higher off the ground. It’s pure luxury !

@imrichbtch1995

3 жыл бұрын

Lift kits solves clearance

Very great video. I have decided on the Forester, liking the wider sunroof and the height difference. Thanks for showing the difference with the 2 , one behind the other .

@CarDietrich

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Wow, a honest dealer, thankyou

Just bought a 2022 Outback Premier. It feels luxurious. The big screen is growing on me.

2012 outback base model owner with 114k miles on it and still love it. Will be upgrading to a new one in a couple years but will go with the premium for more lux and power.

Nice comparison -- much appreciated!

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I found 2019 a Forester XT with 241hp Version 4 from 2017 brandnew, was a showcar in an other country. For me the perfect mix of sleeping space, cargo room and fun of power. Easy to park because of the size and very cool to be fast very quick and the big sunroove is really nice. Just love it. Sorry, it's not my mother tongue. 😁

Not weird to me that the Forester is now the better seller. I had a 2007 Outback that I absolutely loved. The newer ones are just too big. I switched to Forester.

Thank you for the video!

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

One look at the side profile is all you need to see. The windows on the Forester are huge and visibility is amazing. Being able to see well is the greatest safety feature on a vehicle. Forester for me.

Great video. I still love my Outback, it is simply Awesome.

We own both. Towing in the forester 1500lbs outback 2700lbs the forester is faster and more of a street vehicle but the outback is more capable off-road. Not to say foresters can’t go for an adventure that’s just what I noticed as differences. I absolutely love and recommend both I have a 2019 outback my mom has a 2020 forester and my wife has a 2020 accent. We are all supper pleased. Subaru is the new Toyota haha jk, however they did work together for the Brz.

Outback is a LEGEND!!!

Informative! Good video

If Subaru put the new thigh extender driver's seat available in the top of the line Outback in the Forester, that would be awesome. It really helps us taller drivers.

@LindaEEaton

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! The major thing I don't like is how the seat cuts into my thighs. I traded my Toyota Highlander in for my Subaru Forester, and that's the one thing I didn't realize the Forester didn't have. The other thing I don't like is the placement of the cup holders...they need to be in front of the gearshifter. Too may times I'm getting my cups stuck on the lip of the center console. Bad placement for those.

@americanhornet4679

3 жыл бұрын

@@LindaEEaton I must be 'odd one' here although I know literally 500 folks that love 2020 Forester...Limited trim as my recent buy last summer. If cup holders were in front of 'shift' I'd be hitting shift 'reaching for my cup' although my driver seat 'not close to dash'. Thighs cutting in? I've never had that problem, seats are 'wonderful' at least this trim. I'm not an 'oversize' person so I had no 'seats cutting into me issues. Also New SUV Forester maneuvers better than Outback, yet seems roomier inside.

@tinabridgemohan8160

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree I am 610 and I had a 2001 went to a 2011 in the seats are shorter

@tinabridgemohan8160

3 жыл бұрын

6 foot 1

Nice comparison!

I agree that the main difference is the luxury feel of the Outback. I was surprised at how loud the Forester road compared to the Outback. It would be interesting to see a high-end trim level for the Forester that provides the luxury aspects-acoustics, smooth ride, smooth touch points-of the Outback.

V good analysis. We have both, albeit different ages- 19 Forester and 11 OB. OB quite a bit more ride quality and space for not slot more money (always figured 3k diff, surprised its now ~2k per this vid).

Wow I love your comparison 👍👍😊

We have owned an '01 Forester, '13 Outback, and '18 Impreza. We like them all, but if compared with the other two, the Outback feels like a ship. If we were buying right now, we would go for the Forester. But there is no mistake in buying an Outback, either.

@dorjiphalam

3 жыл бұрын

Wow lot of cars. I have the same out back my parents used it’s a 3 generation hand me down. 1 out back 15 years of history still strong.

Thank for the comparison ..... I've often wondered myself (Outback owner 10years)

@CarDietrich

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

I love the turning radius with my forester.. If your in a tight situation on a dirt road is easier to turn around.. Parking in LA is easier with the forester too

thanks dude!

I looked at both, the HUGE infotainment screen (dust collector) killed it for me. I'm old school and like knobs and switches, not having to go into a touchscreen to do things.

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Yeahhh, I feel like people aren't reacting quite as well to the giant screen as Subaru had hoped

@mrjjthor

4 жыл бұрын

Same. Saw the big screen and I'm like nope. Would rather have the smaller screen.

@JimmyG3237

4 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you. When you just get inside and see a big dark blank screen it just does not look appealing at all.

@OnPatrolFan

3 жыл бұрын

They made an update though that fixes the apple car play so it takes up more of the screen real estate was the one caveat so im saving and probably buying a onyx xt subaru outback next july

@eggplant2369

3 жыл бұрын

This one one of the reasons I bought a Forester over an Outback

I love my 18' limited outback.

Just retired my 2002 subaru outback shortly after joining the 300k original mile club!

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Great Job Sarah!

Love my '06 Outback XT. Just got my wife an '02 Forester. Both great cars.

Nice video! Also, you forgot to mention that the Forester is made in Japan while the Outback in Lafayette, Indiana. Cars built in Japan have a tendency to be more reliable.

@americanhornet4679

3 жыл бұрын

Actually Your Correct! Maybe that’s why my previous Foresters lasted at least 200,000k. Without high maintenance costs (via Dealership, bought New).

Good review

Is the cvt on the forester and base engine outback different from the XT? great video by the way.

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

The CVT on the high output motors (Outback XT, Ascent, WRX Automatic, the old 3.6R's, etc) are what Subaru calls the "High Torque" CVTs. They use different drive ratios and actually require different trans fluid as well. Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it!

2:01 I'm driving an outback, sir

I was surprised how different the forester feels inside as opposed to the outback. The forester really feels like a more basic utilitarian vehicle whereas the outback feels to me much more like a regular car. It’s funny though I much prefer the outback, two women I spoke to said they prefer the forester as it’s higher and “easier to drive”.

Buy the forester guys you will love it more than the outback

Thx for this video

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Great video

Thank you!

I love my 2020 Outback Touring XT. I bought the Touring because I wanted the upgraded stereo plus the front camera, as well as the Nappa leather. I haven't had any issues or regrets.

To me the outback just screams adventure mobile and has a bit more character in my opinion. I also like the space and extra comfort you get from the longer wheelbase

2021 outback xt owner here, very good car!

thinking about getting one, your video helps a lot. Any insight about the 2022 Forester? More power maybe?

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

The 2022 is going to look slightly different with new headlights and revised front end but it looks like the engine is going to be the same

A selling point for me is if the front passenger seat could fold down flat like in the Toyota Matrix. It sure is handy when carrying lumber or to sleep in when camping. Unfortunately no one makes these anymore, as far as I know. Pity.

Excellent. Liked. Subscribed

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul!

Love the video. I wanted to know about the reliability and problems with each. I've heard that 4th and 5th gen outbacks have a lot of problems.

@CarDietrich

3 ай бұрын

As a rule of thumb, the Foresters are more reliable (they're still built in Japan). If you're looking at used cars, focus on the individual car. A well-maintained Outback will do better than a neglected Forester. If you're buying new, get whichever one you like best and do all the factory scheduled maintenance on it when you're supposed to and you'll probably be fine.

11’ Outback gang ! Love them both though.

I went from a 2002 Chevy Trailblazer LTZ (fully loaded & upgraded) to a 2012 Subaru Outback 3.6r Limited (fully loaded). I am not dissapointed, I enjoy the AWD.

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Enjoy your Subaru! 3.6R is a great engine

Nice job.

We have a poverty pack 2020 Outback (Aussie version) and we could not be happier with it. We test drove a few other SUVs around the same price bracket and the Outback was an absolute standout. The Outback came with a few less bells and whistles, but for driveability and comfort it was easily the best.

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching from Down Under! I'm glad you are happy with your Subaru

@goranghair5704

3 жыл бұрын

What did you choose, sport or touring?

We have an ‘11 outback with 219,000 km on it...’18 crosstrek with 50,000km on it. Not ready to give up the OB yet. Won’t do the forester though. OB is a nicer vehicle

I've driven a previous-gen Forester and a current-gen Outback. Both with base engines. The Outback feels like a lumbering submarine compared to the very punchy and responsive Forester. Driving it is like sitting in a fishbowl sportscar. Sounds nice as well. If you want to pass on the freeway, have fun flooring it in the Outback and relying on momentum. It was so slow above 60 mph. I think I may be more used to having more action in the cabin in cheaper cars.

I just got into a 2018 premium outback and I love it. I just got out of a 2016 Chrysler 200. I wouldn't go back to a car after getting into this vehicle.

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your new Subaru!

excellent video even if I am considering a 2022

@CarDietrich

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's still pretty much the same stuff for 2022. Eventually I'll make another one of these when they both get redesigned

Outback or Forester has never been a question for me. I have bought Outback recently. The options to choose from were CR-V, Rav4, CX-5, Santa Fe. I have never considered Forester as an option. I am not completely satisfied with my Outback but it has character that Forester does not. I can close my eyes to inadequate engine & CVT because Outback is kind of a "special" car. If not the Outback, after weighing all pros and cons, I would probably go with Santa Fe or Rav4. Note: towing capacity is the same for both cars (1,500 lbs ) for 2.5L engine.

my girlfriend has a forester, I drove a Outback for about a week but after coming from Honda Civics and Honda Fits, decided on a Crosstrek. Just handles better, its a bit smaller and has better geometry for mountain roads / trails

Love the ride of the 2020 Forester but the wind noise in that nice $$$ a car was a deal killer.

@CarDietrich

4 жыл бұрын

Wind noise? LOL you should drive a 2006 Forester sometime.

Good video. We have a forester on the way. The outback is to large for my uses

Thanks 🙏

I love my 2020 Subaru Outback premium. It’s been a dependable car and with Blizzak tires unstoppable in the snow this winter. The downsides to me are no hard buttons for the heated seats, auto vehicle hold, and turning off the auto stop start. I have to push so many buttons every time I start the car!

@obed3115

3 жыл бұрын

Facts. I got the 2021 limited and i love it but I wish that had it to once you set the setting you want it should stay that way

Love LOVE love love my outback limited!

@elkhuntingpatriot6418

3 жыл бұрын

Just bought a 2021 Outback Limited yesterday. So far I'm loving it! My first brand new car!

Love the blank buttons to remind you that you can’t afford the upper trim.

When I got my 2014 outback, it had greater towing 3k+ vs less than 2k for the Forester. 0% financing sold me on the outback. The price was only $1000 different.

Thank u for this video, can you answer a question about what one would seat a 6’7” 285# man with the most comfort? I’m headed out to test drive some but thought some input would be nice thank you

@CarDietrich

3 жыл бұрын

Either one of these cars could suit you well (I'm a larger person myself) but the Forester might give you a little more headroom)

Outback drives great.. Outback 2022 owner

I was pleasantly surprised with my forestor rental I just hated the start stop system

@garystar1592

2 жыл бұрын

The 2021 Outback has the on/off system too