Stuck in Snow - My Stubbornness Cost me Hours
Getting stuck in the snow isn't bad as long as you have proper recovery gear. Being stuck for hours because you are lazy and stubborn is bad.
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Your watching Primal Outdoors - Camping, Overlanding and Van Life. I am living the van life in my Ford E350 4x4 Van traveling around the remote public land system in Oregon.
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Wondering why you didn't opt for the winch and a tree strap. You could have pulled your front sideways and spun the van right around.
@willduke1656
4 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking 🤔
@irishdefense77
4 ай бұрын
The winch would have made extremely short work of this.He could have easily turned 180 with the winch-2 angled pulls would have done it.Tons of good trees right there.Maybe he’s just doing this for content.
@westernsoutherner1
3 ай бұрын
Sometimes the snow on the side is like 4 feet deep and there is a narrow window to drive on. Ive been in similar conditions several times. Its either forwards or backwards and turn around is very tricky. Not sure if thats whats happening but seems like it. May not have been able to reach a tree also.
Personally, I appreciate seeing that not everything is “sunshine and snow flakes” and that even the experienced make occasional mistakes. Fun video to watch.
Hello Jason,I have been quietly watching you in the background. I do have to admit this is by far the best episode I've seen for 2024. What makes this video unique is that we actually got to see you solve a problem that can be used on and off road✌️👍
Oh heck, I don't need to go to the mountains to be stubborn and lazy; I can do that anywhere! :)
Put on a pair of caseys ezsocks!!!!great for old guys.....
If you’re too “lazy” to air down you’re sure as heck too lazy to put chains on, but it was entertaining to watch you struggling. Happy you didn’t get hurt. Chains are my go to down here in Southern Oregon, just had em on floating through deep wet snow, similar to what you were in, a few days ago. That day same day I saw a guy in a 46 Willys up on the trail and he had chains on too. Steep, rutted, off-camber, 2 feet of snow and we both did fine and the chains were what made it possible.
Dude, your photography is epic. Love the drone shots. Well done brother!
HI JASON 👋 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LESSON ! ENJOYED ❤️ SORRY ABOUT ALL THE SHOVELING , ETC ! THERE PLENTY OF US OUT THERE LIKE THIS , STUBBORN , ETC , L.O.L. GLAD YOU MADE IT OUT SAFELY. ALWAYS TEACHING THANKS MAKE US SAFER 🙏 BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS ON YOUR ADVENTURES 🙏
Call Casey!!!!!!
Haha- you goof!! Licking your tires!
Ugh,.. snow can be a pain. Thanks for the video
Keep that momentum going. Don’t let off the gas when you are still Moving forward.
"on the bright side look at what a gorgeous day it is" THAT ! -- 100%. :)
Good luck on your path and direction, snow included. You have a nice channel with thoughtful & beautiful videos.
The only good thing about all that work is how good that dinner and glass of whisky tastes at the end of the day. It's also a great way to help you sleep after all that, too!
You earned that glass of whiskey. Thank you for the great video.
I know you don’t like chains. For over 30 years working Northern Nevada, Utah, Montana and Washington my job required back country driving My chains saved me many times.
@r.c.g.811
4 ай бұрын
Common sense isn’t so common.
@joshua6200
4 ай бұрын
@@r.c.g.811 A lot of people are stuck in their ways, or their ways are just being stuck.
@jamesgregory3937
4 ай бұрын
@@r.c.g.811 Agreed this guy is hard to watch with his hard headed opinions.
@ElectricDanielBoone
4 ай бұрын
He sure doesn’t like chains. Dang guy dedicated an entire video to how they don’t work in the “backcountry” that got thousands of views! Maybe he just doesn’t know how to use them, but we know he’s incorrect and they sure work and work fantastic! Jason takes great pictures, but he sure has trouble getting his rig through deep snow and doesn’t even try and improve. I think he may be a transplant from CA up here to Oregon, which might explain a few things.
@Havingoneofthosedays-
4 ай бұрын
I get that chains might chew up roads But chains with my k5’s and suburbans have saved my butt since the 90’s. The amount of digging out is half the time to put chains on. IMO CHAINS ALL DAY EVERYDAY
I’ve known about airing down the tires technique forever. I just didn’t realize how effective it is. Lesson learned from all your hard work. Great video as always.
Talk about a workout Brother your a beast, thanks for the upload as always entertaining👍
Right on man. I think most of us go through similar thought processes. It is easy to go that route. You got it handled.
Reminds me somewhat of a time I got stuck in the snow. Couldn't get out, so set up camp. Next morning the snow was frozen and I drove right out.
Funny how we get older and wiser and we still revert back to our stubborn ways. 😂 At 52 I’ve had plenty of days where I’ve said “why’d I do that?”. I try to teach my son who’s a lot like me in every way…. “Smarter not harder son”. If only I’d always take my own advise! Thanks for the video.
Air down and to use the winch. Must have lockers if you are out in rough mud or snow in back country. You are definitely doing it your way.
Stubborn, don't you think it's time to get a new dog? You know you want one .🐶❤️👍😊🤣🤣🤣
Your video shows that off road exploring comes with challenges that you have find a solution for and hopefully learn from. You are not inexperienced, you had the knowledge and tools to solve this problem in more ways than one, you simply showed us viewers alternative choices that may work when others are not as fast. Thank you for the great video, while not so fun for you we certainly enjoyed watching you solve this.
Stubbornness sure makes great content
I've recently made myself one of those 4-tire hose setups that the overlanders use. Best thing ever ! I also use a dual piston air pump I got at Canadian Tire with a preset pressure so you don't have to watch it. Just runs off the van battery while running the engine (works better with the higher voltage) and takes no time to air up.
I’ve been watching your channel for years. You’ve really hit your stride here. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing. This had good info and maybe a lesson too. 😉
The siping, the little zigzag grooves on the tread blocks are what give it the snowflake rating.
@maximusmock
4 ай бұрын
False. Snowpeak rating means the tire compound stays soft in freezing conditions.
@Chris-ut6eq
4 ай бұрын
As I get older I'm getting more siping and my dirtnap rating goes up!
Cheers Jason!
Thank you for the reminder not to be lazy and stubborn. I spent a day & half, years ago, digging thru a snow bank in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, to get my 2wd truck over Horseshoe Meadow Pass and down to Lone Pine. Having spent the week before hiking in beautiful Late Spring weather, I got surprised by Snowstorm in March! I should have aired down my M&S tires and should have had a larger shovel (Army shovel was too small). I'm now living in Nor-Cal and listening to the rain tonight wondering where the snow level is in the Lassen National Forest, so I can find out where I can ride my off-road motorcycle or switch back to X-Country Skiing again. Love the Mountains!
I really loved this video... thank you for sharing...it made me chuckle! Can't wait for the next one!
Thanks for the video...👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This almost happened to me earlier today up in the Cascades... definitely a scary experience when you're alone.
We have all been there. There is a primordial urge to just keep trying. Its also a fun adventure.
I use the Moreflate for airing up and sometimes airing down. it is still about 15 min putting it all back in the truck after use.
Lazy man’s day. Lesson be learned. 😊
What a day! I bet you worked up a HUGE appetite. Thanks for sharing the adventure!!
Thanks for the snow lesson!
Good video though and a good reminder to be careful out there. There is a saying that only people knows how to swim drown. I am not an off-roader, but this can happen to other situations I am experienced with.
LEARNED 2 GOOD LESSONS !!!!!! GOOD WORKOUT AND THANKS FOR THE TIPS ~~~~~~~
I am like that, when the stuff hits the fan, just turn it into a game. Game your way out.
Ahhh! What's wrong with a bit of practice hey? Enjoyed the vid and nice to see someone admitting their mistakes 😂
So true. Hindsight is always 20/20, but so many times we think we can get lucky with a shortcut, and it works just often enough to keep us sucked into that thinking. I am a little surprised that you don't have a full size shovel. You're a tall dude, and all that bending over looks painful! The truth is, every cool recovery item we have is a PITA! Having an air tank in your compressor system helps a lot. It's just finding space for it.
Loved watching you play in the snow
I always try to carry a bucket of sand with me for traction on slick areas.
Nothing wrong with working hard to get success
You probably still have summer air in the tires, wich makes the snow turn to slush as you roll over it. Some nice cold winter air in them will keep you on top and moving at a brisk pace.
That tire lick was epic. You have my respect sir 🙏
What about using your winch?
Your doin fine. There’s a lot of instances when chains won’t work. That was deep soft snow. Love you videos!
you rock !!!...even when you are/were tired....peace
Nothing like a good sense of humor in a negative situation 😅!
Wow! Rough! Hope you're okay!
Nice informative video Austin!😉
What should "real" tires taste like 🤣. We've totally been guilty of not airing down because we don't want to take the time to air back up 😬
Looks like you had a little fun lol Very video thank you Jason I think I have the same tires on my TJ and they do great but the TJ is real light. Thanks for the video Don and Donna from North Idaho
I just realized here in canada we use a SNOW shovel in winter not a garden spade......
Siping your tires really helped on snow and ice.
Great video Jason, reminds of the years I lived in South Dakota.
I'd be like oh my aching back but here in Pennsylvania we to get snow here of course
Another tire lickin' good episode, Jason!
monster valves and a power tank or bigger compressor would help air up and down super fast
I am 74 years young and have been stuck in the mud and snow more than most. I am still not as careful as I should be at times. One thing I do that most do not do is carry enough self recovery gear to get home every day. If you drive the back country and never get stuck, where is the fun in that. I live west of Bend in the cascades and every year so many people get stuck just past the end of my driveway. Most are clueless and do not have any recovery gear.
Well if you did anything you showed us how effective airing down the tires is! lol That wet snow and slush is the worst!
He makes mountains out of mole hills lol .
Have you heard of tire socks? When I lived in Redmond I found that ashes from the wood stove gave me the best traction no matter what the snow conditions. Just some thoughts.
I had my fingers crossed each time you tried.
I see you have decided to put out your annual snow chain video. Dude, its been like 5 years running, keep on keepin on I guess.
5 minutes per tire to air up seems a lot better than a couple hours of shoveling! Oh well.............
Try Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T tires. That's what I'm putting on my 2019 802A Raptor next. They also are 3PMSF rated.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of your traction with low and high pressure in the tires for those of us who don't have snow. I just don't know because it never snows where I live in Georgia.
Currently building rear bumper swing aways for my vans. A bit involved, but jist if it is reese 2" style receivers ALSO face to the sides enabling winch to be mounted in the SIDE to pull van around. Chains with welded half links will prevent side sliding.
HA! I can't believe you'd be that stubborn I know I have many times... 🤣
Better be late than never....what's important is that you learnt a new lesson 😂
Hi Jason, I just watched a video on TFL (offroad i think) and they were testing 'snow socks'. They got really good results with one of them and they are really easy to put on and take off. Not sure if you've ever tried them but they seemed pretty useful. And they dont tear up the trail.
Great video 🎉 Great determination 😮 Can’t wait to see the next one 😊 What whiskey did you choose? ❤
First of all I’m not offering to sponsor your new tires. Second….I’m so sorry Jason, but as someone who’s been stuck MANY times in all kinds of crap, I am ' laughing my a$$ off, especially when you started on the psychology of WHY you weren’t doing which and whatever. I have done that so many times. I lean to your line of thinking on both the tires and chains. I’ve never had anything other than All Terrains on any of my vehicles. I do have chains for all my vehicles, but I bet I can count on one hand how many times I’ve used them in over 30 years of harsh terrain or weather. I am very glad you got out, and am looking forward to the next Van Camping video. I’ll try to sponsor a whiskey for you at some point this week. At this moment I’m sponsoring a glass of Blackened into my mouth. What great end to a painful day for us both (been doing yard work in preparation to move ☹️) 🥃 😁👍.
I learned something from my transmission guy. I have a 2006 ford E350. And when going forward if I put the van in second gear it actually starts in second gear for slippery situations. I would try that to see if it works. Again it obviously only works going forward! 😅
Snow chain would had saved ya that’s why their called snow chains for snow
No mud terrain. Duratrac Goodyears are snow tires you can run all year around
Remember these are your words, "stubborn and lazy." I'm 73 years old and have been in similar situations more times than I wish to admit to throughout the years, and to be bitterly honest, with all the cussing I did in those situations I haven't learned a thing. Still "stubborn and lazy to put on chains".
It could have been worse. I could have been me!😂
The front locker might be hurting you in this situation might be why you get pulled to the side
Yah Jason, a proud member of my people! Air down, traction boards, winch, chains, and a couple of shovels, ah where's the fun? Just did this last week, and a guy comes along and offers to pull me out, I laughed and told him give me 5 minutes and I'll unstuck myself! He says okay, pulls his truck down the road, pulls out a lawn chair and a cooler and proceeds to enjoy my unstuck show! Forty-five min's into it, I've got the truck spun around and he say's he's almost out of road soda! Not getting defeated my final act was attaching my winch to his bumper for the last pull! It was still a great time!
Low tire pressure helps a lot
20 minutes is not that long to pump up 4 tyres really. I bet you spent more than 20mins with that shovel, and a lot of sweat 😂🍻
I use the ARB Inflation Kit Air Compressor and Orange Air Hose Pump Up Kit with a 4 wheel tire hookup on my Dodge Ram 2500 34" tires. I have two portable compressors also for back up. The ARB with a 4" PC fan on it fills two tires to 55 PSI from 25 PSI in 5min with the temp around 150 on the ARB. Then I disconnect and do the fronts. Only 2 tires at a time and maybe 15min. The ARB gets very hot especially without a fan on it.
I put the maxis razr ats on my 7.3L diesel 4x4 econoline and the soft sidewall (despite being 10 ply e rated) caused death wobble so bad I couldn’t drive it over 80kmh. Unfortunate because they are a nice tire.
Too lazy to air down... digs all day.... eventually airs down... Lol... you can't write stuff like this! If I've had a dollar for every time I've ever taken the hard way first. Isn't it amazing though how easily it popped right up when you aired down? You've made me a believer my friend!
You should have seen all those hands at my tire shop when I knelt down to sniff and lick my new tires! I mean come on! We have to know for sure if what we’re spending all that money on is real or not, right?!! 😂
Even snow plows use chains
Chain up and then air down. Chains help as much as 4wd vs 2wd
re tires : ahh man -- you need to KO2's bro - that's your problem right there :) :) :) Also -- a pony - never would have got stuck if you had a pony around.
I have an ARB Twin with the bluetooth module and rigged with two jacks so I can deflate and inflate two tires at a time. I have 35x12.5 inch BFGs and I can air up in minutes (I haven't actually put a timer on that). I usually run the front at 20psi and the back at 25psi, and all four at 50psi for normal road driving.
I have watched you for a long time. 20 minutes? You make it sound like a life time. Think about this in a real bad life or death situation, which could happen, what's 20 minutes? Your job is to entertain us, and it surly is not a 9-5 punch a time clock job. 20 minutes LMAO. God bless this man in all things.
That's interesting, I wouldn't think that lowering air pressure would be quite as critical in snow as it is in sand. I'll remember that and also keep in mind when it comes to upgrading to a higher level ARB air pump. As far as chains, I know it's laborious to put them on and take them off, but I do believe they would have gotten you out, especially with the locker and limited slip in play. Also, you could have split the difference and only installed the chains up front.
@NBLife459
4 ай бұрын
We run our rigs down to 5psi sometimes and its almost like tracks in the deep snow. Suzuki samurai on 37" can go anywhere in deep wet snow with low tire presser
Good exercise!?
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